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RRR Title
@Ab207 So on the CBFC certificate for this film it is written as RRR (Roudram Ranam Rudhiram) so how could we change the article's title accordingly since the Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is now included in the registered name. (I can not provide a direct link to the certificate on the CBFC website since it will not let me but using the search bar it shows up) SP013 (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- SP013, not sure whether there's a need to change that. In past, I've added subtitles from the CBFC posters but they were subsequently removed by other editors ([1], [2]) perhaps due to not complying with WP:TAGLINE. All of them are mentioned in RRR (film)#Marketing anyway. -- Ab207 (talk) 05:25, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207 So I have just seen this on Twitter, but in the document that was used to grant the hikes for the film in Andhra Pradesh, the film is referred to as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram [3]. So now there are conflicting documents for this film. SP013 (talk) 14:26, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Although, the film is marketed as RRR, it's complete also include Roudram Ranam Rudhiram. It is nowhere said that 'Roudram Ranam Rudhiram' as the tagline of the film's title. I suggest to let the article's name be the same, rather change the name in the article as RRR:Roudram Ranam Rudhiram Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 01:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps a note/efn would suffice. BBFC mentions it just "RRR" without any tag. Looking at Janatha Garage example, CBFC also tends to put taglines in brackets. So we can't definitely say its a complete title, especially when director clearly said that expansion is not part of the title. -- Ab207 (talk) 18:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think a note should be fine for this film. SP013 (talk) 22:20, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207 I don't think we mentioned in the article about Rajamouli's comments on the expansion, did we? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:12, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- DaxServer, no, I guess. His views about having a common title are mentioned at Development but not specifically about the expansion. -- Ab207 (talk) 11:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207 I don't think we mentioned in the article about Rajamouli's comments on the expansion, did we? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:12, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think a note should be fine for this film. SP013 (talk) 22:20, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps a note/efn would suffice. BBFC mentions it just "RRR" without any tag. Looking at Janatha Garage example, CBFC also tends to put taglines in brackets. So we can't definitely say its a complete title, especially when director clearly said that expansion is not part of the title. -- Ab207 (talk) 18:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Budget
- Thread retitled from "Budget video".
@Ab207 and SP013: Wasn't there a YouTube video of a press conference where the makers said the budget was "350 to 400 crores"? What happened to that? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fylindfotberserk, yep, that was in 2019 before COVID. Sakshi (secondary source) in Oct '21 reported that it was overrun by 150 cr due to pandemic delays, and the final figure is 550 cr. India Today (Dec 21) also gives the same figure. Anupama Chopra quoted this figure in a interview with the RRR team where they nodded in agreement. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207: Thanks man for the detailed chronology. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:53, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @DaxServer and Alwaysthilak: Just a note that the ₹336 crore figure reported by many sources is without GST and does no include remunerations of director and star cast. But in the infobox, budget should include them too, hence the 550 figure. This is explained in production section. -- Ab207 (talk) 10:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ahh, I still haven't made it to that section yet. Despite that don't we put 550 in the lead as well? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:16, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- It's already there in the lead, right? -- Ab207 (talk) 10:30, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. I'm just clarifying for myself — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:48, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- It's already there in the lead, right? -- Ab207 (talk) 10:30, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207, DaxServer, and Fylindfotberserk: These citations are clearly saying that the film is made on total budget of Rs. 400 Crore. Pinkvilla, News18, Deccan Herald, News18 with clear details. - MRRaja001 (talk) 04:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- MRRaja001, yeah, all of them are blindly regurgitating the budget announced by the makers way back in March 2019 without considering or doing their own research on the cost escalation due to the pandemic. Please see this video where Rajamouli confirms the budget is 550 cr, not 400cr. -- Ab207 (talk) 07:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207, DaxServer, and Fylindfotberserk: These citations are clearly saying that the film is made on total budget of Rs. 400 Crore. Pinkvilla, News18, Deccan Herald, News18 with clear details. - MRRaja001 (talk) 04:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207: Yeah, you're right. Thanks - MRRaja001 (talk) 08:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Do we want to add the {{estimation}} tag in infobox to budget as this is not the exact figure? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:10, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- No article can display exact budget figure for any film, so I don't feel strongly about it. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:11, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Do we want to add the {{estimation}} tag in infobox to budget as this is not the exact figure? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:10, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207: Yeah, you're right. Thanks - MRRaja001 (talk) 08:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Gross
The film first day collection is 223cr not 257. It is officially posted by PVR, Rajamouli and others in Instagram and Twitter. RRR created history by defeating previous bahubali 2 first day records. And also highest grossing Telugu film of 2022 and Highest first day grosser of India. 49.15.202.28 (talk) 10:00, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- 250cr per times of india source, if you have any reliable source to prove your words,then please wrote here. – B203GTB • (talk) • 17:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- For the uninitiated, the primary source is a poster here. It certainly is an odd occurrence when the figures stated by the producers are lower than trade estimates (given they are usually inflated in the opposite direction). DeluxeVegan (talk) 21:48, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Box Office Confusion
There have been different box office collection (25th March 2022 - Friday and 26th March 2022 - Saturday) in many reliable sources like ;
- CNN-News18 - ₹223 crore [1]
- The Times of India - ₹240 crore [2]
- Hindustan (newspaper) - ₹240 crore [3]
- Hindustan (newspaper) - ₹257 crore [4]
- The Economic Times - ₹240 crore [5]
- Koimoi.com - ₹250 - ₹280 crore [6]
- Bollywood Life - ₹235.50 crore [7] - ₹240 crore [8]
- Forbes - $5.4 Million [9]
- India Today - ₹257.15 crore [10]
- Deadline Hollywood - $4.5 million [11]
- Bollywood Hungama - ₹233 crore [12]
So hopefully now is it necessary to mention it on infobox of in this? , or else according to WP:FILMBOXOFFICE some sort of a confusion would take place when it is on the infobox. So as for a solution it is better to wait till the peak of the value raise and later can mention on here. On this weekend too this might get change in huge form, so is it better in avoiding on mentioning the value?. (🙄)
References
- ^ "RRR Box Office Collection Day 1: SS Rajamouli Film Collects Rs 223 Cr, Beats Baahubali 2's Earnings". News18. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "'RRR' Box Office collections day 1: SS. Rajamouli film mints over Rs 240 crores; deets inside! - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "Trending news: RRR Box Office Collections Day 1: Rajamouli's RRR storms the box office, earns 240 crores on the first day". Hindustan News Hub. 2022-03-26. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "RRR box office day 1 collection: Rajamouli film has all-time best opening by Indian movie, mints ₹257 crore worldwide". Hindustan Times. 2022-03-26. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "Rajamouli film 'RRR' registers over Rs 240 cr on debut, shatters all records". The Economic Times. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "RRR Box Office Review (Hindi): SS Rajamouli Decodes The Title In His Own Style & It's Indeed 'Rupiya Rupiya Rupiya'". Koimoi. 2022-03-25. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "RRR box office collection day 1: All the records that the SS Rajamouli, Jr NTR, Ram Charan film broke". www.bollywoodlife.com. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "RRR Box Office Collection Day 1: Jr NTR and Ram Charan starrer surpasses The Kashmir Files collection in just one day". www.bollywoodlife.com. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ Mendelson, Scott. "Box Office: 'RRR' Nabs $5.4 Million Friday As 'Everything Everywhere' Breaks Out". Forbes. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ MumbaiMarch 26, Anindita Mukherjee; March 26, 2022UPDATED:; Ist, 2022 12:27. "RRR vs The Kashmir Files: Which film earned more on Day 1 at box office". India Today. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
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- ^ Hungama, Bollywood (2022-03-26). "RRR DETHRONES BAAHUBALI 2 at the Worldwide Box Office: Collects Rs. 233 crores on Day 1; becomes the No. 1 opener of Indian cinema :Bollywood Box Office - Bollywood Hungama". Retrieved 2022-03-26.
-- TFEPing 📝 18:31, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice research, Fazran fayad. But most of these can be scrapped. Like those based on the WP:SELFPUB tweets of Manobala or Ramesh Bala. Hindustannewshub is WP:NOTRS while Koimoi and Bollywood Life are low grade sources. Times of India/Economic Times and Bollywood Hungama are the only two good sources if you ask me. -- Ab207 (talk) 21:32, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- I would accept it with your opinion about low grade source and good sources. But since Manobala vijayabalan is also having a different count with the gross value of ₹257.15 crore[1] and Ramesh bala is not with his exact count but had mentioned as it in different way in Business Today also india.com had mention the same[2] (where an recognized indian media corporation based[3]). So if we could wait till every sources comes to a final value, there want be any confusion on them but also it would be reliable in this main space; as per my suggestion, is it better to remove the exact count which is been mentioned on infobox on here??.(🤔) [Note: Mint is also going with ₹257.15 crore[4] and WION is also going with ₹257 crore[5] but also Zee News is with a news of ₹207.33 crore[6] and Business Standard with ₹233 crore[7] ] (WP:SELFPUB - Accepted and WP:NOTRS - Accepted)
References
- ^ "RRR box office collection Day 1: SS Rajamouli's film mints Rs 257 crore". Business Today. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ Desk, India com Entertainment. "RRR Box Office Collection Day 1 SS Rajamoulis Magnum Opus Destroys BO Mints Over Rs 200 Crore". www.india.com. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
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- ^ Livemint (2022-03-26). "RRR box office collection Day 1: Rajamouli film grosses ₹257 cr worldwide". mint. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "'RRR' box office collection day 1: Ram Charan's film mints Rs 257 crore". WION. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ "SS Rajamouli's blockbuster RRR will make Rs 600-700 cr at Box Office, predicts trade analyst". Zee News. 2022-03-26. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
- ^ IANS (2022-03-26). "'RRR' smashes box office records, earns Rs 233 cr worldwide on Day 1". Business Standard India. Retrieved 2022-03-26.
-- TFEPing 📝 22:40, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- There's no need to remove the figures at this point, this deviation is rather small and expected when compared other films like Kabali. All the sources which report 257 crore are traced to Manobala, so these aren't different sources, just one source which I wouldn't want to use due to issues I pointed at WT:ICTF#Manobala Vijayabalan. Pick the best quality sources and display range if needed. And by the time we figure that out, new sources will emerge for the updated collections. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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Wrong budget mentioned, at one point it's mentioned 336 Cr and at other points mentioned 550 Cr 103.97.92.201 (talk) 04:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: Budget is 550 crore per the above discussion; unsourced changes have been reverted. Ab207 (talk) 06:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
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need to update latest collections of movie Manikanta42 (talk) 04:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ––FormalDude talk 08:19, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Two days ₹371 Crore
Few References
A query was put on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Valimai citing Manobala Vijayabalan's figure usage in RRR movie article and BheemlaNayak, Radhe Shyam etc, the very next day user ab207 quickly comes and removes the 371 crore figure. The user uses WP sps and non RS sites as per his personal wish.
MovieBuffIndia (talk) 07:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Am I biased agianst Manobala Vijayabalam? For sure I do because I don't Wikipedia to be a mouthpiece of random numbers they publish on twitter. I have been pretty vocal about it this by positing at WT:ICTF#Manobala Vijayabalan. IB Times and Pinkvilla have been approved by the ICTF as reliable sources for Indian films, not merely my "personal wish" -- Ab207 (talk) 08:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes for sure, you are biased. Because it looks like you will publish same random numbers published on Twitter by Taran Adarsh or Jatinder Singh. If you look at the discussion at ICTF, admins pointed out that Pinkvilla itself is not a complete RS. Despite that you created a dispute in Valimai film page.
Now coming to this ₹371 figure. For the first 5 days from RRR film release the article was with ₹371 Crore number as two days gross. After I referenced out in Valimai talk page to resolve dispute, quickly you came and removed those sources and made it as ₹370 crore. For a meagre ₹1 cr difference you seem to remove the source which was published by reputed media outlets. And on what criteria you prove ₹370 is correct and ₹371 is wrong? In multiple discussion pages Including ICTF, you have said Manobala Vijayabalan's number published with multiple reputed media outlets can be taken for consideration. One simple question, none of the editorial board which publishes his number reviews before publishing? Also, the times of India which you seem to agree as source, they themselves used Manobala Vijayabalan's exact number on Day to day basis for recent films like Radhe Shyam - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/box-office/radhe-shyam-box-office-collection-day-13-prabhas-and-pooja-hegde-starrer-collects-rs-214-04-crore/articleshow/90440962.cms?from=mdr, Bheemla Nayak - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/box-office/bheemla-nayak-box-office-collection-day-18-pawan-kalyan-and-rana-daggubati-starrer-collects-a-total-of-rs-191-crore/articleshow/90216941.cms, without mentioning his name in the article. Not even decimal places are changed in these articles. Looks like you want to create a perception that any site can publish Box Office figures and you will take it as granted except the ones which mentions the name Manobala Vijayabalan. Irrespective of whatever or whose figure that media outlet publishes. MovieBuffIndia (talk) 03:55, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't entirely understand what you are accusing me of. Had I used/removed Manobala's figures selectively, that may be a example of bias. However not using Manobala as a source is a stand I openly took as explained at ICTF talk page. If we go by the above logic, then Wikipedia itself is biased as it maintains a list of sources which should/should not be used the articles in.
- I request you not to take this to at personal level, and turn it into a WP:BATTLEGROUND. Patiently discuss what you want, and seek WP:CONSENSUS for you changes. If community deems Manobala as a legit sources for BO figures, then they'll be used, regardless of my opposition. Thanks and have a nice day -- Ab207 (talk) 06:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
The accusation put forward is, usage of Manobala Vijayabalan's figure in Wikipedia articles when the exact numbers of him written in Times of India articles without mentioning his name, but not when any other media outlets publishes it with his name.
Here, you are saying your opinion as community's opinion. Read the above sentence again. Why I'm saying is, even if anyone from any part of the world comes and updates an article with Manobala's figure with established media outlets, you are the first person to remove it. If you see the talk pages nobody except you participated in those discussion. I believe one or two person's opinion don't reflect entire community's opinion. You seem to be under a mindset and already come under a conclusion that any source which uses manobala's name is wrong, even if it is the actual real number or it is the same numbers which get published in other media outlets without mentioning his name. This clearly reflects your opinion. And lastly there is no poll conducted to name his figures as non legit.
You think his figures are non legit, the same way there are others who would think it as legit. If a community's opinion has to be spoken here, then there should be a majority of users' opinion, not just one or two person. Without a poll, we can't simply say as entire community's opinion. MovieBuffIndia (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
2019 shooting in Vadodara and Pune
I see tickets to Vadodara on 29 March 2019 for Ram Charan Jr. NTR and Rajamouli.[1] I guess the shooting was started in a day or two (can't say anyway without sources), and was a 10-day schedule.[2] The next one was scheduled in Pune. On 2 April, Tuesday, Ram Charan had an ankle injury, and by 3(?) April, the Pune schedule was cancelled. So:
- Was the Vadodara schedule filmed for 10-days as reported that it being a 10-day schedule?
- If so, would it be March or April; the principal photography says March
References
- ^ Hungama, Bollywood (2019-03-29). "Junior NTR, Ram Charan and SS Rajamouli take off to Gujarat for RRR and here's the proof! : Bollywood News - Bollywood Hungama". Retrieved 2022-04-02.
- ^ "'RRR': SS Rajamouli's next to be shot in Maharashtra and Gujarat - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2022-04-02.
— DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like the filming was completed.[1] Can't say if they did in the 10-day window as planned.
References
- ^ "After Ram Charan, Jr NTR gets injured on the sets of RRR?". India Today. 24 April 2019. Retrieved 2022-04-02.
- — DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:48, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
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please update the box office collection 2409:4071:D1F:A2EE:D068:74DD:5265:72DE (talk) 06:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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The box office number has to be changed. It has to change from 710 to 800 crores. 2001:8F8:1471:A9FE:98EF:69C8:691F:2EC1 (talk) 06:57, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Already done — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Sequel
Rajamouli official confirmed there would be no sequel to RRR. His next project is with Mahesh Babu currently it is titled as #SSMB29 as go on floors on 2024/25. 27.97.168.151 (talk) 09:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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Sahilssrsahi (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Box office collection 1090 crores (14 days)
Box office collection 1090 crores (14 days) rrr Sahilssrsahi (talk) 16:06, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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“Complete post-production for the film is happened at Annapurna Studios, Hyderabad, India. Shivakumar BVR is the colorist and C V Rao is the Technical Head” 183.82.98.229 (talk) 04:55, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:10, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
RRR collection 1000 crore
RRR movie box office collection is 1000crores successfully collected. It official confirmed and 1000 crores success meet finished. 1.38.56.237 (talk) 13:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Samayam Telugu Copies Manobala Vijayabalan's figure
The source which has been used in RRR wiki article for daily BO update actually copies from a trade analyst.
Day 17 - ₹1029 crore Manobala's tweet : https://twitter.com/ManobalaV/status/1513393027108118529 Samayam article : https://telugu.samayam.com/telugu-movies/cinema-news/rajamouli-rrr-17-days-collection-report-here/articleshow/90775979.cms
Day 16 - ₹1003 crore Manobala's tweet : https://twitter.com/ManobalaV/status/1513067836733734912 Samayam article : https://telugu.samayam.com/telugu-movies/cinema-news/rajamouli-rrr-entered-in-1000-crores-club/articleshow/90759632.cms
In both the above scenarios one can check the tweet timing as well as article timing to know the reality of who published the box office number first.
But here people would say blindly that Manobala Vijayabalan figures are wrong when the article mentions his name. If the article uses copies his number without mentioning his name then nobody will have any objection.
This is not the first instance there are many examples of Radhe Shyam and Bheemla Nayak figures of Manobala used by Times of India on daily without mentioning his name in the article which was used in respective wiki articles for BO update.
The problem here with few users seems to be not with number but with the name. MovieBuffIndia (talk) 20:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Update
Day 18 - ₹1039 crore Manobala's tweet : https://twitter.com/ManobalaV/status/1513767915362811905 Samayam article : https://telugu.samayam.com/telugu-movies/cinema-news/rajamouli-rrr-18-days-world-wide-collection-report/articleshow/90796022.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by MovieBuffIndia (talk • contribs) 18:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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The collections of the movie has crossed 1.15 billion rupees but wikipedia is still showing 1.115 billion . I want to edit it. Raaj thakur.999 (talk) 05:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Please show the correct collection or let me edit it. Raaj thakur.999 (talk) 05:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: It's 1,115 crore (or 11.15 billion) per the latest source. Please re-check your numbers -- Ab207 (talk) 05:28, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Change the highest grossing, it's now behind KGF 2 202.140.38.226 (talk) 06:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Re-release
@Ab207 So there is a re-release for this film in the US for June 1st. Is it notable enough to mention in the release section? [4] [5] SP013 (talk) 15:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @SP013: Yep, looking to add it myself -- Ab207 (talk) 15:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't this WP:NOTNEWS? I understand film articles that policy isn't strictly followed in Indian film articles, but this event seems too much. The section is already bloated with the screen numbers for six languages and three countries. Hemantha (talk) 16:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Those bloated screen numbers indeed need to be trimmed but re-release info is generally mentioned in release section -- Ab207 (talk) 16:57, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't this WP:NOTNEWS? I understand film articles that policy isn't strictly followed in Indian film articles, but this event seems too much. The section is already bloated with the screen numbers for six languages and three countries. Hemantha (talk) 16:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
change hindi name
in RRR Movie page, Marketing topic first paragraph. it has written hindi name - RISE ROAR REVOLT. please change it ot - RAN RAUDRA RUDHIR IT IS THE RIGHT HINDI NAME FOR MOVIE. Maitreya Tamrakar (talk) 09:26, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Source? As far as I can tell, the Hindi dubbed version uses Rise Roar Revolt (राइज़ रोर रिवोल्ट) as it's expansion -- Ab207 (talk) 05:55, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- it is obvious, you know Rise roar revolt is not hindi. you can see hindi page of RRR there is the right name written in hindi. Maitreya Tamrakar (talk) 16:29, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter whether it's in Hindi or not. 3 Idiots is not Hindi but we don't translate it as "Theen Bewakoofon" just for the sake of it. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:42, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- it is obvious, you know Rise roar revolt is not hindi. you can see hindi page of RRR there is the right name written in hindi. Maitreya Tamrakar (talk) 16:29, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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Surendra 2001 (talk) 10:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
RRR box collection 2500Cr
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Poster
Hello, MNWiki845. Billing block is the primary feature of theatrical poster, not the release date. You can check out Avatar (2009 film) (good article), Zodiac (film) (featured article) etc. which do not carry any release date. The current poster definitely looks better than the previous one. It has also has a full billing block which the previous one doesn't have. Thanks and regards
CC to involved users @SP013 and Sush150: -- Ab207 (talk) 07:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
"RRR (upcoming film)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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RRR initalism
Hii Ab207 RRR title example here "Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham... (transl. Sometimes There is Joy, Sometimes There is Sorrow...), also known by the initialism K3G" this is the wikipedia standard. let us use wikipedia standards instead of somebody's Jayanthkumar's whims. Fostera12 (talk) 05:33, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Replied at my talk page. As I said earlier, first of all, be aware of previous discussions done on the talk page. Don't simply blame others. Thank you....Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 7:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
every time you have issue with others edits, what is the issue with RRR title ? why are we putting a note ? instead of original film title Raudrm Ranam Rudhiram in the article it self ? that is the original name of film right what is the problem in that ? why are we adding marketing note ? for a film title.
Standard example here - Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham... (transl. Sometimes There is Joy, Sometimes There is Sorrow...), also known by the initialism K3G, this is the wikipedia standard, why are we into changing standard wikipedia style and adding notes, who will read that note ?
Fostera12 (talk) 05:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey Fostera12, I guess you are frustrated and, discussing about my edits on others' talk pages. But let me know you one thing, there were discussions done for several times regarding the title of RRR. These discussions were done many times since 2019! Even I defended letting the article be named Raudram Ranam Rudhiram.I advise you not to make changes saying "fixed title as per wikipedia standard". Such changes should be done after discussing as these are major ones. I hope you understand. Also, why would I waste my time by simply reverting other edits without any reason?.... Thank you...Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 7:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
No frustration, i checked over the link but where was consensus reached on adding note, can you tell me, it was your own biased and whimsical opinion to add note. Consensus is not reached. Okay, lets see I wont revert changes made by u. In any wikipedia film article do u see something like read note, see note etc. Fostera12 (talk) 08:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- What's wrong with you? The note is added by some other editor and also the title of the article is not just my opinion. I have nothing to do with these things!!! This statement given by Fostera12--it was your own biased and whimsical opinion to add note shows your personal grudge on other editors. I want to clear one thing----everytime I do some edits, this user always targets me. In this case, I have neither added the note nor my opinion to let the article be named RRR. See this--[6], they have removed this content later, this is very unfair to make such allegations against me. If this personal attack on me continues, you will be again blocked. Also, don't blindly report against me other users talk pages. Have some basic awareness about what has happened regarding the article. Thank you.....Fostera12 (talk) 14:53, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, @Fostera12 This title issue was discussed over and over again. There is a clear consensus is that the original title is RRR only (this was confirmed by Rajamouli himself). Raudram Ranam Rudhiram and its variants in other languages are just namesake expansions. A note was added as a compromise, and that has been the case since then. -- Ab207 (talk) 10:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the date from 28 May 2021 to 28 May 2022 in the Box office section first paragraph. Gyaan Sharma (talk) 15:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Already done by the requester themselves. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Link tweet not Twitter wiki page
Link the tweet not Twitter 2600:1700:CDA0:1060:51F2:487B:AD3F:7313 (talk) 10:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- What are you referring to? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:03, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
GA nominee
Hi @Blazin777 Thanks for nominating the article. However, it has quite some content marked for citations needed. As such, it would fail GA under WP:GAFAIL #3. Do you want to withdraw the nomination until these issues are resolved? You can do so by self-reverting — DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:54, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- @DaxServer: Can you find citations for contents marked for citations needed? Blazin777 (talk) 17:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Blazin777 I'd like to... over the course of next few months. Not right now — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- @DaxServer: Okay. Then I'm going to withdraw nomination. Blazin777 (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Blazin777 I'd like to... over the course of next few months. Not right now — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
Final box office
Hello, Freewebstennis. So far, there are five sources which give RRR's closing collection, out of which the latest ones are News18 te (28 May) and Samayam (30 May). These are just 2 days apart with 50 crore difference, so using range seems the logical thing to do. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Ok sure Freewebstennis (talk) 07:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
https://telugu.news18.com/photogallery/movies/ntr-jr-ram-charan-tarak-next-movie-with-ram-charan-director-after-koratala-siva-prashanth-neel-atlee-many-directors-here-are-the-list-ta-1326340.html I think it's fair to say it collected 1200 cr if not more as the US response has been amazing. And remember this news18 channel mentioned it 1150 cr three weeks ago and now in the article they said it 1200 cr. So it's 1200cr for sure! Freewebstennis (talk) 17:56, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
As per "News18" article rrr closing collection is ₹1150 cr. Tigerikkada (talk) 11:23, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Range
@Freewebstennis:. Re this edit, not just News18, there are bunch of other sources which still give 1200 crore even after the USA re-release:
- Telangana Today (4 June)
- Hindustan Times (7 June)
- Times of India (11 June)
Also, it's totally inaccurate to say that 50 crore difference is due to the release. The re-release earned around 80K (as per Deadline Hollywood) which is less than 1 crore. So there's really no way we can ignore the 1200 crore figure. As per Wikipedia:Conflicting sources, we need to report them all by giving a range of 1250–1260 crore. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207: As per many sources publised recently, the film grossed 1260 crore. Even the The Times of India and Hindustan Times in their recent articles published 1260 crore as the gross collection. I have added reliable sources which says the gross BO. As the boc is reported to be 1260 crore by majority of the sources, shall we remove the lower estimates. Even in the case of K.G.F: Chapter 2, there are many articles which publishes varied gross boc, but we have inclined towards the majority.....Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:58, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jayanthkumar123 The difference was much less in KGF 2, just 17 crore. Here we have 50 crore difference, so I'm not entirely sure. Why not wait until it releases in Japan and other international markets to update final figures. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ab207, as most of the sources mention 1260 crore as the BO figure, shall we remove the range and use only 1260 crore as the sole BOC figure? Similar to other film articles, we need to go by the majority. Even the very recent articles mentioned the BOC figure as 1260 crore. I repeat, most of the sources..!! Thank you...Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Jayanthkumar123 Yeah I understand but it's not just about the majority. Afaict, none of the sources mentioning 1260 crore gave region wise/day wise break up like some 1200 crore sources. Unless we know how this 1200 crore increased to 1260 crore, I don't think it's wise to remove it. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:26, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Ab207, as most of the sources mention 1260 crore as the BO figure, shall we remove the range and use only 1260 crore as the sole BOC figure? Similar to other film articles, we need to go by the majority. Even the very recent articles mentioned the BOC figure as 1260 crore. I repeat, most of the sources..!! Thank you...Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Jayanthkumar123 The difference was much less in KGF 2, just 17 crore. Here we have 50 crore difference, so I'm not entirely sure. Why not wait until it releases in Japan and other international markets to update final figures. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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Box office collection INR1 260 crores Narendramodi11 (talk) 07:01, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done Duplicate Actualcpscm (talk) 16:30, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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Change box office collection INR 1200 crore to INR 1260-1270 crore Narendramodi11 (talk) 07:04, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done @Narendramodi11 Please provide a reliable source for this change. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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All time great movie of Indian cinema
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- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 18:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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Separate article for list of accolades.
The film is receiving too many awards and nominations. Need to have a different article. JokerDurden (talk) 09:04, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Accolades?
Someone should add these accolades if they're notable enough:
- Sunset Circle Awards, multiple: https://www.imdb.com/event/ev0024624/2022/1/, http://sunsetcircle.com
- HCA Creative Arts Awards, multiple: https://glittermagazine.co/2022/12/08/hollywood-critics-association-announces-new-nominations-for-creative-arts-awards/
- IGN, nominated for best movie of 2022: https://www.ign.com/articles/best-movie-2022
Also not exactly an accolade but perhaps someone should mention the Google easter egg?: https://www.indiatvnews.com/trending/news/google-introduces-rrr-animation-ss-rajamouli-jr-ntr-ram-charan-film-rrr-google-search-results-2022-08-13-799729
Arceus775 (talk) 06:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
Also:
- New York Film Critics Online, Top 10 Films: http://www.nyfco.net/current-awards/
- DiscussingFilm Awards, multiple: https://discussingfilm.net/2022/12/07/discussingfilm-critic-awards-2023-the-nominations/
- Phoenix Critics Circle Awards, multiple: http://www.phxcritics.com/2022-awards-nominees
- Las Vegas Film Critics Society Awards, multiple: https://keithlovesmovies.com/2022/12/11/lvfcs-2022-award-winners/
- Southeastern Film Critics Association Awards, multiple: https://www.sefca.net/winners#/2022
Arceus775 (talk) 11:41, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Box office 2023
It is to be noted that the 1200 crore figure is an older one. It doesn't include the latest Japan and other re-release collections. None of the Indian media outlets are tracking the box office collections. Very few are publishing articles related to Japan collection solely. But none of them have published an article that includes total collections including the latest one. Here is the Box Office Mojo's link to the film which mentioned $154,545,746 (approx. ₹1259 crore) [7]. So, can we rely on these figures? Can you share your views:DaxServer, Ab207, DareshMohan, Kailash29792...Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:17, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- BOM is considered definitive. But has it covered RRR's earnings in all territories? If so, include it. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:21, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. I don't think BOM is very reliable for Indian films, due to poor tracking system in India, currency conversion issues etc. For example, RRR India figure of BOM is $130M ie, 1050 crore. This itself seems a bloated figure.
- If included, it should be in the range, or rather not included at all. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- It is to be accepted that RRR grossed more than 1200 crore, but we don't have major sources publishing the exact figures. So, it's better to include in the range. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
(Rise Roar Revolt)
Shouldn’t this be part of the title? I specifically came her looking for what the three Rs stood for. 97.126.25.229 (talk) 04:29, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please see Talk:RRR/Archive 1#Regarding RRR Title expansion and the controversy surrounding it — DaxServer (t · m · c) 08:34, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- There's a footnote:
The title's expanded form is Roudraṁ Raṇaṁ Rudhiraṁ (transl. "Rage, War, Blood") in Telugu and Rise Roar Revolt in English, but it is commonly referred to as RRR.
DonQuixote (talk) 14:42, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Its work of fiction?
Someone have to mention properly that it's a fictional film and actual revolutionary are never met eachother in real life and none of them was doing job under British, this film could misleading non South Indians that this film is history. Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 13:07, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Can somebody also clarify if it is "fictionalized" or "alternate" history - surely there's an objective difference between 'based on real events' (with interpolations and speculation) and actively going against the historical record - summaries suggest that this is the former (however heavily) rather than the latter - as described currently - which is surely more apt for deliberately divergent 'histories'..? ntnon (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- It's not really alternate history or even fictionalized. It's more a work of fiction which feature fictional versions of historical characters. I'll remove alternate history from the article. DonQuixote (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
CGI not yet mentioned
There's no mention yet in the article about their use of CGI for all animals. The beginning of the film starts with "Disclaimer: No animals or birds were harmed during the making of the film. Horses, oxen, birds, tigers, wolves, bears, leopards, deer, fish, and snake shown in the movie are all computer-generated." Grorp (talk) 06:48, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- That disclaimer, as read, doesn't actually indicate all animals were CGI—just that none were harmed, and ten specific types of animals were entirely CGI. Tiny distinction, but an important one. A citation would be quite useful here. 2601:3CA:204:F860:A073:894B:A1A4:E3C2 (talk) 03:50, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Controversy section needed
A section should be added to address controversy regarding the film. Reliable sources are referring to it as a "controversial global blockbuster", "an incredible action movie with seriously troubling politics", and a "political screed". 2601:3CA:204:F860:A073:894B:A1A4:E3C2 (talk) 04:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
language errors
The plot portion is full of English language errors and ought to be edited 2601:643:300:6FA0:69CE:AECC:742F:9ECC (talk) 03:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Care to point out some examples?$chnauzer 04:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Award and Recognition
The RRR Movie won the Oscar Award for its energetic song ‘Naatu Naatu’ on March 13th, 2023. Jangirpawan (talk) 04:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
It's mentioned as early as the intro. What is your point?$chnauzer 04:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Just added as a section, don't you think ..should we keep this? Jangirpawan (talk) 05:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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In the entry for RRR (Film) is says that Naatu Naatu is the first Indian song to be nominated for an Academy Award. Not true. Jai Ho from Slumdog Millionaire won the Oscar for Best Song at the 89th Academy Awards according to its Wikipedia entry and other sites. 23.242.161.64 (talk) 17:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: It says: "the first Asian nomination to win the award". Please provide reliable sources that prove that the statement is incorrect. M.Bitton (talk) 18:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Slumdog Millionaire is not an Indian film. It is a British Film. Ofcourse the composer was an Indian, but the film was British. Besides apart from the words Jai ho, there are no words in the song that actually contain any Indian Language. Jai Ho is not an Indian song or of an Indian Movie. Bodi123 (talk) 19:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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The cost of making this movie is not 550 crores (Indian rupees) it is 621 crores, 7 lakh , 12 thousand and 500 rupees in total or 75 million dollars this needs to be updated this is a vital information. Koomaran Somi Narasimhan (talk) 11:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
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Change the word "decimate" in the fifth paragraph of Plot to "defeat", as by definition decimate means to kill one-tenth of a group, which is not fitting for it's current use in the paragraph. Kringralnick (talk) 12:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 17:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to request that the film's worldwide box office gross in the article's lead and box office sections be amended to include the USD amount of the crore gross range listed. Currently, many other crore figures in the article are accompanied by their USD equivalents, including the film's budget, opening day box office, Andhra Pradesh and Telangana box office, etc., but the worldwide gross range is not.
I have not included a USD range below because I feel I should leave it to others to determine the best exchange rate to utilize in order to maintain consistency throughout the article.
The text of the lead section paragraph in question currently reads (I have bolded the portion I suggest amending to aid in identification):
"Made on a budget of ₹550 crore ($72 million), RRR is the most expensive Indian film to date. The film was initially scheduled for theatrical release on 30 July 2020, which was postponed multiple times due to production delays and the COVID pandemic. RRR was released theatrically on 25 March 2022. With ₹240 crore (US$30 million) worldwide on its first day, RRR recorded the highest opening-day earned by an Indian film. It emerged as the highest-grossing film in its home market of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana, grossing over ₹415 crore (US$52 million).[6] The film grossed ₹1,200–1,258 crore worldwide, setting several box office records for an Indian film, including the third highest-grossing Indian film and second highest-grossing Telugu film worldwide.[4][7]"
And the Box office section begins (also bolded here to aid identification):
"RRR is estimated to have grossed between ₹1,200–1,258 crore worldwide.[4][7]" Alexfountain (talk) 07:41, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Partly done Updated the figures in the text to use consistent conversions. Did not add to infobox, after reviewing other pages for large Indian films it seems to match the style not to convert these. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 21:59, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- It seems that there is a formatting error in the last paragraph. It shows as a monospace/code-block thing instead of normal text. Freeman9999 (talk) 17:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
This is not the first Indian song to get Oscar
Under Accolades it is wrongly stated that it is the first but it is 2nd and first is Jai ho by A.R. Rahman in the movie Slumdog Millionaire 103.18.171.58 (talk) 17:14, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- It is not an Indian film — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:07, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe use the phrasing from the song's article, ""Naatu Naatu" became the first song from an Indian film to win the Academy Award for Best Original Song". It's technically more precise and would better match the source used in the song's article.[8]. Ravensfire (talk) 22:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Change RRR Box Office Collection from 1200-1258 Crores to 1320 Crores (RRR collection now stands at 1320 crores after Japan’s collection of around 110 crores. Please update the Box office collection of RRR to 1320 crores) Jomcfc (talk) 03:04, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 07:15, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- RRR Box office collection currently is ₹1320 crores (https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt8178634/). Source given says $162 million which corresponds to around ₹1320-1330 crores. Also regarding Japan claim, it has crossed ₹100 crores there (https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/south-buzz-rrr-crosses-rs-100-crores-in-japan-priyadarshans-corona-papers-gets-average-openings-despite-good-reviews-kannada-actor-prajwal-devaraj-to-make-his-telugu-debut/amp_articleshow/99315975.cms) hence, the box office collection now stands at ₹1320 crores. Hence requesting to update. Jomcfc (talk) 05:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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RRR Box office collection currently is ₹1320 crores (https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt8178634/). Source given says $162 million which corresponds to around ₹1320-1330 crores. Also regarding Japan, it has crossed ₹100 crores there (https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/south-buzz-rrr-crosses-rs-100-crores-in-japan-priyadarshans-corona-papers-gets-average-openings-despite-good-reviews-kannada-actor-prajwal-devaraj-to-make-his-telugu-debut/amp_articleshow/99315975.cms) hence, the box office collection now stands at ₹1320 crores (1220 100 = 1320 crores). Hence requesting to update box office collection from ₹1200-1258 crores to ₹1320 crores. Jomcfc (talk) 10:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: Your estimations don't account for today's inflation. For example, the 166 million doesn't have the same value in today's USD price index; as well, the currency exchange rate could have an influence. Callmemirela 🍁 03:53, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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In the second paragraph under "Plot", the article says "Bheem and Raju encounter one other". Change "one other" to "one another" or "each other". 2601:18F:600:5D:4301:E2DA:C826:2F52 (talk) 15:37, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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Typo under plot: 'Bheem's gullible aide Lachhu believes Raju's ruse, where hw attempts to recruit him into Bheem's plot.'
'he' incorrectly spelt as 'hw' Amecabra (talk) 13:27, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Done Thank you for letting us know. — Trey Maturin™ 13:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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Under Music, the line: 'The soundtrack consists of seven original songs composed by Keeravani, namely, "Dosti" (transl. Frendship)'
'Frendship' must be corrected to 'Friendship' Amecabra (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:48, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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Under Release, Theatrical: 'In January 2022, a public interest litigation (PIL) was filed in the Telangana High Court to restrain the film for being released, alleging that the film distorts history of Alluri Sita Rama Raju and Komaram Bheem.'
Please change 'distorts history' to 'distorts the history' or 'distorted the history'. Amecabra (talk) 13:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:02, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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Under Release, Theatrical: 'The High Court quashed the petition in March, observing that film did not tarnish the reputation of two revolutionaries as claimed.'
Please change 'that film' to 'that the film'. Amecabra (talk) 14:36, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Done ULPS (talk) 18:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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Under Release, Theatrical: 'The High Court quashed the petition in March, observing that film did not tarnish the reputation of two revolutionaries as claimed.'
Please change 'reputation of two revolutionaries' to 'reputation of the two revolutionaries'. Amecabra (talk) 14:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Done ULPS (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Page move
Move preformed without explanation or discussion on August 9; RRR (disambiguation) had also been moved on April 2 with no explanation. However, the moove seems to have been justified based on the disproportionate pageviews of this article compared to others on the DAB page.
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Addressing the (mis)uses of history in RRR
The film opens with a disclaimer that the work is entirely fictional; however, since the two leading characters are based on two central Telugu historical figures, there is a certain responsibility owed to depicting them with a degree of historical integrity. In order to address these nuanced issues, I have added a section titled '(Mis)use of History,' which delves into the complexities surrounding historical accuracy and the adequacy of disclaimers. This section aims to foster a discussion on how the film navigates the fine line between fiction and historical representation, inviting contributors to share their insights on the challenges and ethical considerations involved. I encourage fellow editors to review this section and provide feedback to ensure a balanced and informed portrayal of the historical context within the film. OwlzOfMinerva (talk) 03:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'd argue that this section entirely violates WP:NOR, as it looks entirely like an original analysis/essay about historical disclaimers. The proper way to include something like this is if it is discussed in reliable sources, where then it'd probably be included in the Reception section as what those original sources thought about the film's usage of history. Plenty of fictional works go wildly off the rails of real history, the place with your own discussion to start this discussion is neither this page nor probably Wikipedia. As such, I have reverted this edit. 2607:FEA8:1E1F:EE00:C614:C5A1:E940:5260 (talk) 04:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Inclusion of acclaim by filmmakers for RRR
RRR is a unique Indian movie that has received massive acclaim globally - something that's not shared by any other movie and is inspirational for the entire Indian film ecosystem.
The section below highlights that unique achievement.
Reception of RRR by international Filmmakers
Steven Spielberg praised RRR, saying "I couldn't believe my eyes – it was like eye candy...it was extraordinary to look at and experience." Rajamouli said in response "I can almost get up from the chair and do a dance – it means a lot to me."[1]
James Cameron said that he liked RRR so much that he watched it twice and praised the screenplay, direction and music direction of the movie.[2]
Edgar Wright said that RRR was "an absolute blast" and said it was "The only film I have ever seen where the intermission card itself got a round of applause."[3]
Adam McKay publicly expressed support to RRR for the Oscar awards race.[4]
James Gunn said that about RRR that he "Totally dug it."[5]
Russo Brothers have publicly expressed their appreciation for RRR and its director SS Rajamouli . Joe Russo mentioned “I’ve seen RRR, and it’s amazing." He further mentions "What I think is so amazing about [RRR] is the emotion it evokes, combined with the spectacle."[6]
Scott Derrickson tweeted "To celebrate my birthday last night, my wife, kids and I watched @RRRMovie — what an awesomely outrageous roller coaster of a movie. Loved it" [7]
Joe Dante called RRR a brutal portrait that depicts the horrors of British colonisation and said that "I bet you’ve never seen anything quite like it" [8]
Daniel Kwan lauded the film, saying "While a lot of the blockbusters we're making in the states tend to have self aware, cheeky characters trapped in self-serious filmmaking, RRR was all heart-on-its-sleeve sincerity wrapped up in the most ridiculous over the top execution. So much to love."[9]
This section has been thoroughly cited (as can be seen from the history version of this page from 26-27 Jan 2024) with all the examples, but is continuously being removed by the user below, whom I address below to better understand the contention:
@Falimy: May I ask why are you removing this section? Is there a problem with citation? Is the acclaim by Steven Speilberg or James Cameron not considered noteworthy by you? Is there any other format that you'll prefer? Are there any other issues that you have noticed?
Kindly clearly articulate the reasons here in the Talk page so that we can understand your reason for persistently editing this section out. SaibaK (talk) 01:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jayanthkumar123: May I ask why are you removing this section? Is there a problem with citation? Is the acclaim by Steven Speilberg or James Cameron not considered noteworthy by you? Is there any other format that you'll prefer? Are there any other issues that you have noticed? SaibaK (talk) 15:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Follow the standard film article formats, there can't be no separate section titled "Reception by international filmmakers". No film article on Wikipedia has such section. You cannot add about each and every person, already the article is bigger. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a standard film article format? Kindly point to it. Wikipedia policy has no such thing.
- What is presented above is a highly researched and labored section with proper citation and is highly pertinent to the wikipedia page. Discarding such notable information and accolades which is unprecedented for any Indian movie seems inappropriate. Is there any other Indian movie which can even have such a section? RRR is unique and therefore needs a separate section.
- Also, kindly discuss the topic here before deleting well researched and cited work by others. SaibaK (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a standard format, I guess you are new here, that's why you might be knowing this. Sections such as production, music, plot, cast, etc. are regularly followed. Be it any bigger film, the same format is followed, there are many bigger films than this in regards of cultural impact or box office, but still the same format is followed. Please go through film articles, you will know more about them. Obviously section with good citations are allowed, but random sections with random names cannot be followed. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, you are talking consensus, other than you, did anybody else accepted to include this section in the article, the answer is "no". See here [9], what discussion you are talking about? Except you nobody discussed. So, how can you say as per discussion? Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- You've not pointed to any standard format link because one doesn't exist.
- The mentions included are by top filmmakers of the world such as Steven Speilberg etc. and have been covered by top publications which considered the news newsworthy and have been widely published and cited as well. Removing that is vandalism. However you're calling the well cited work vandalism and aren't following wikipedia guidelines.
- If you have problem with this still, open up an RFC. SaibaK (talk) 05:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have opened up the issue on the dispute resolution page.
- Kindly make no further deletions and wait for the dispute resolution.
- Here is the link @Jayanthkumar123:
- Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR SaibaK (talk) 06:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- user @Jayanthkumar123 is ignoring attempts to gain a consensus and dispute resolution opened by me at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR and as revision 1235976007 show, he continues to remove the well cited and notable content without waiting for the dispute resolution. SaibaK (talk) 06:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, I have already mentioned that sections with such bluff names can't be followed Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia policy for inclusion of information is this: "Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia's concept of notability applies this basic standard to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics. Article and list topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice". link Wikipedia:Notability#:~:text=Information on Wikipedia must be,or "worthy of notice".
- The content included is verifiable and notable.
- The criteria you're using is invented by you and is not a wikipedia policy. Kindly follow wikipedia policy not your imagined criteria. As per wikipedia policy verifiable and notable content should be included. SaibaK (talk) 07:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- The dispute resolution process I had opened has now been concluded: Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR . Following the instruction by the moderator to put back the changes in the article. Thanks. SaibaK (talk) 16:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, I have already mentioned that sections with such bluff names can't be followed Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- user @Jayanthkumar123 is ignoring attempts to gain a consensus and dispute resolution opened by me at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR and as revision 1235976007 show, he continues to remove the well cited and notable content without waiting for the dispute resolution. SaibaK (talk) 06:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, you are talking consensus, other than you, did anybody else accepted to include this section in the article, the answer is "no". See here [9], what discussion you are talking about? Except you nobody discussed. So, how can you say as per discussion? Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a standard format, I guess you are new here, that's why you might be knowing this. Sections such as production, music, plot, cast, etc. are regularly followed. Be it any bigger film, the same format is followed, there are many bigger films than this in regards of cultural impact or box office, but still the same format is followed. Please go through film articles, you will know more about them. Obviously section with good citations are allowed, but random sections with random names cannot be followed. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Follow the standard film article formats, there can't be no separate section titled "Reception by international filmmakers". No film article on Wikipedia has such section. You cannot add about each and every person, already the article is bigger. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
I am not active from 23 July 2024 to 29 July 2024, so I was not able to put my comments in the discussion. My opinion is that which article on Wikipedia has the section with the above name "Reception by international filmmakers"? Not a single film on this site has section with such names. Being one of the most-viewed film articles on Wikipedia, I opined to remove this section for neutrality and cleanliness. There are many great films produced, but none of them has a separate section which describes so-called "reception" by international filmmakers. Do we really need to include what each and every person said that too in a separate line and in a separate section. The above discussion has been started by SaibaK who has only 37 all-time edits with 35 belonging to this specific section. He is a new user who randomly added this section in this article. Pinging DareshMohan, Ab207, Swarleystinson88, Fylindfotberserk, Kailash29792, MNWiki845, RangersRus, Gotitbro, BhikhariInformer, Anoopspeaks, DaxServer---- Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 08:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has a policy that notable and verifiable information can be included.
- Across the nation, newspapers considered this to be notable and newsworthy, but @Jayanthkumar123 insists that he knows better than the Economic Times, the Hindustan times, the Times of India etc. which have covered the section and are included in citation. SaibaK (talk) 23:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I've gone through proper dispute resolution process by wikipedia and @Jayanthkumar123 has avoided it despite him being active on the days when the dispute was opened (22 July and he was tagged in it on that day) and @Jayanthkumar123 edits are present on (22 July and 23 July) and yet he has not participated in it. SaibaK (talk) 23:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since you're now back, kindly follow the proper procedure @Jayanthkumar123 . I've opened up a new dispute resolution here:
- Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#RRR 2
- And have also notified you on your user page in the comment of this section:
- User talk:Jayanthkumar123#Dispute resolution notification
- Please follow the proper procedure since you claim to be an experienced user. SaibaK (talk) 00:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Refrain from making false allegations against me with such statements--"but @Jayanthkumar123 insists that he knows better than the Economic Times, the Hindustan times, the Times of India etc. which have covered the section and are included in citation". Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you kindly clarify @Jayanthkumar123 : are you not saying that despite the news being covered by the Economic Times, the Hindustan times, the Times of India etc. it should not be included in the article? SaibaK (talk) 08:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here is your exact line @Jayanthkumar123 from your comment in the talk section above at 08:19, 30 July 2024: "Do we really need to include what each and every person said ". You're arguing about the inclusion of the information despite it being prominent headlines in the Economic Times, the Hindustan times, the Times of India etc. because of your own criteria of what should be included or not. SaibaK (talk) 09:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I stand with what I said. The media will obviously report what happened, but I am not questioning the sources instead I am in an opinion that "is it necessary to include what each and every person said". I don't have any personal criteria. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you feel you are complying with wikipedia's guidelines and don't have any personal criteria/bias, then why are you running away from the dispute resolution opened here?
- Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Summary of dispute by Jayanthkumar123
- Let the moderators decide if you're following the wikipedia guidelines or not. Don't run away. SaibaK (talk) 08:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why don't you let other contributors of the page make a opinion. You seem to be in a hurry to resolve the issue. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I stand with what I said. The media will obviously report what happened, but I am not questioning the sources instead I am in an opinion that "is it necessary to include what each and every person said". I don't have any personal criteria. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 05:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Here is your exact line @Jayanthkumar123 from your comment in the talk section above at 08:19, 30 July 2024: "Do we really need to include what each and every person said ". You're arguing about the inclusion of the information despite it being prominent headlines in the Economic Times, the Hindustan times, the Times of India etc. because of your own criteria of what should be included or not. SaibaK (talk) 09:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you kindly clarify @Jayanthkumar123 : are you not saying that despite the news being covered by the Economic Times, the Hindustan times, the Times of India etc. it should not be included in the article? SaibaK (talk) 08:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I've gone through proper dispute resolution process by wikipedia and @Jayanthkumar123 has avoided it despite him being active on the days when the dispute was opened (22 July and he was tagged in it on that day) and @Jayanthkumar123 edits are present on (22 July and 23 July) and yet he has not participated in it. SaibaK (talk) 23:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment: @SaibaK and Jayanthkumar123: I'm going to ask both of you stop editing the article until a consensus is reached, either here or at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. If the two of you keep reverting each other, I will have to block your access to the article. If consensus can't be reached, consider asking for a third opinion or opening a proper RfC on the matter. Jayanthkumar123, you are the more experienced editor here and should avoid doing what seems to me like WP:STONEWALLING. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 12:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly, I requested the other editor to wait until having a third opinion. But the editor seems to be in a hurry to resolve. Resolving the issue through moderators is fine, but there are many other editors who have contributed to this article, they might have their opinion. I said the same in the above discussion, to have a third opinion. Also, the content was randomly included with no proper discussion. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Ramachandran, Naman (10 February 2023). "Steven Spielberg, S.S. Rajamouli Talk 'RRR,' 'The Fabelmans': Watch Video (EXCLUSIVE)". Variety.
- ^ "James Cameron praises RRR, asks SS Rajamouli if he wants to make Hollywood film". Hindustan Times. 21 January 2023.
- ^ "Baby Driver, Scott Pilgrim director Edgar Wright praises SS Rajamouli's RRR: An absolute blast". Hindustan Times. 14 August 2022.
- ^ "Don't Look Up director Adam McKay calls India's RRR snub 'a travesty', pledges support for SS Rajamouli film". The Indian Express. 22 September 2022.
- ^ "James Gunn expresses admiration for Jr NTR, desires to work with 'amazing and cool' RRR actor". The Economic Times. 26 April 2023.
- ^ "Russo Brothers say they're 'huge fans' of SS Rajamouli, call RRR 'amazing'". The Indian Express. 30 July 2022.
- ^ "'Doctor Strange' Director Showers Praise On 'RRR', Calls It 'Outrageous Roller Coaster Of A Movie'". Outlook India. 18 July 2022.
- ^ "'Gremlins' director Joe Dante praises 'RRR' for depicting 'horrors of British colonization'". The Economic Times. 20 July 2022.
- ^ "Everything Everywhere All at Once co-director Daniel Kwan heaps praise on SS Rajamouli's RRR: 'So much to love'". The Indian Express. 19 October 2022.