Talk:Preševo Valley/Archive 1
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South Serbia
Presevo has nothing to do with South Serbia. South Serbia is Serbian Kosovo! --Србија до Токија (talk) 12:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Origin of term
It should be noted that term "Presevo valley" is political term, invented by Albanian politicians in South Serbia, with idea to represent that part as unique and distinctive from South Serbia. This same tactics is used to represents Kosovo as distinctive part from Serbia. Bujanovac is bigger than Preshevo, but Preshevo has Albanian majority. Also, in Serbia, valleys doesn't bear the names of towns or other settlements. 85.222.163.250 (talk) 10:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Broken infobox
I don't know how to fix this infobox added in. So here it is. Fences and windows (talk) 11:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
| demonym = Lugina E presheves
| image_flag =
| image_coat =
| image_map = Ost Kosovo
| national_anthem = Боже правде / Bože pravde
"God of Justice"
| official_languages = Serbian
| regional_languages = Gorani, Turkish, Romani, Croatian,
Rusyn 1 Albanian 2
| latd=44 |latm=48 |latNS=N |longd=20 |longm=28 |longEW=E
| government_type = Parliamentary republic
| leader_title1 = President
| leader_title2 = Prime Minister
| leader_title3 = President of Parliament
| leader_title4 = Supreme Court President
| leader_name1 = Fatmir sejdiu
| leader_name2 = Hashim Thaqi
| leader_name3 = Jakup Krasniqi
| leader_name4 = [[]]
| legislature = National Assembly
| currency = Serbian dinar7
| currency_code = RSD
| country_code = RS
| time_zone = CET
| utc_offset = 1
| time_zone_DST = CEST
| utc_offset_DST = 2
| calling_code = 381
| ISO_3166-1_alpha2 = RS
}}
World War II
I see the statement: Among Albanians common is also the term eastern Kosovo, which makes reference to the removal of the area from Kosovo and its incorporation into Serbia after WWII. This is backed up by a Judah citation. For anything historical this tends to be reliable but here the comment is completely incorrect, and it is highly improbable that Judah will have mentioned this. Nothing after World War II was "taken" from Kosovo, Kosovo re-emerged after a period of absence. Last in existence as an Ottoman Vilayet until the First Balkan War, it was reduced to a regional subunit (occupying a very small landmass) of Serbia's kingdom from 1913, continuing into Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes until 1929 when the January 6 Dictatorship was declared and then wiped off the map totally. In 1946 Kosovo was re-established as an autonomous province but even this was only a shadow of the pre-1913 Kosovo, certain areas had already been ceded to SR Montenegro and SR Macedonia which were carved out of pre-World War II Serbia, and other areas such as Novi Pazar and Prijepolje remained within SR Serbia. The Kosovo border reflected an outline in which Albanians formed a super majority. As such, the Preševo Valley could not have been taken from them and "incorporated into Serbia", even if there is a significant Albanian population in the valley. Further to that, according to the maps of the former Ottoman vilayet, the Preševo Valley seems to have stood outside the vilayet, Kosovo merely ran northwest from today's Sandžak southeast into central/eastern modern Republic of Macedonia. --beztraga (talk) 07:49, 17 November 2013 (UTC) Blocked sock:Evlekis.
- "which makes reference to the removal of the area from Kosovo and its incorporation into Serbia after WWII" should be removed as obviously incorrect.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Sure. But it is all right to leave the "eastern Kosovo" ideology. Not too much research needed considering that was the purpose for the 1999-2001 conflict. beztraga (talk) 11:04, 17 November 2013 (UTC)Blocked sock:Evlekis.- Both "Eastern Kosovo" and Preševo Valley are ideologically loaded. Both terms exist and it would be wrong to delete them or ignore their existence just because many authors refer to it as "so called Preševo Valley" because they believe it is a toponym invented by Albanian nationalists to more easily claim this part of Serbia and annex it to Greater Albania. link, link. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Antidiskriminator, did you realise you were cooperating with another Evlekis sock? bobrayner (talk) 19:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- Do you realise that Guilt by association as an ad hominem fallacy?
- Do you realise that you insist to add factually incorrect assertion to this article (last diff)? Although you were explained that prior WWII this region was part of Vardar Banovina, not Kosovo (diff). In 1912 it was captured from Ottomans and became part of Vranje County of Serbia. When Yugoslavia was established after WWI this county became part of Vardar Banovina and annexed by Bulgaria during WWII. After WWII it became again part of Serbia. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- Antidiskriminator, did you realise you were cooperating with another Evlekis sock? bobrayner (talk) 19:50, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- Both "Eastern Kosovo" and Preševo Valley are ideologically loaded. Both terms exist and it would be wrong to delete them or ignore their existence just because many authors refer to it as "so called Preševo Valley" because they believe it is a toponym invented by Albanian nationalists to more easily claim this part of Serbia and annex it to Greater Albania. link, link. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Unnecessary bolding
The entire introduction to the article is bold for no apparent reason. The editing interface says there is nothing there to make it bold. Can this be investigated? 216.137.192.89 (talk) 02:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Fixed, thanks; my bad. It was a mixture of (non-)italics within {{lang-sh}} which broke the formatting. No such user (talk) 14:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Possible copyright problem
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