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New home in Hamburg
[edit]According to German media Doherty lives in Hamburg now. Although some sources say that he would plan to move there and others that he had been there "for some weeks". Couldn`t find anything in English yet, the German articles are just one or two days old: http://www.infranken.de/ueberregional/vermischtes/art102843,679233 ; http://www.radiohamburg.de/VIP/VIP-News/Stars-international/2014/April/Pete-Doherty-Britischer-Skandalrocker-wohnt-jetzt-in-Hamburg ; http://www.gala.de/stars/story/pete-doherty-das-herz-schlaegt-auf-st-pauli_1079127.html ; http://www.ok-magazin.de/people/news/25710/pete-doherty-zieht-nach-hamburg---92.227.135.7 (talk) 06:25, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
He passed the drug test
[edit]I added this, since he passed the drug test: (after serving just over 4 weeks of a 14-week sentence). He described prison life as "a lot of gangsters" and showed a certificate confirming he had passed a drugs test while inside.afp.google.com, British bad boy rocker Doherty released early from jail--Florentino floro (talk) 11:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
should put in something about pete being good at soccer/football —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.227.216 (talk) 01:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Article name
[edit]Although in the tabloid media he's often known as 'Pete', all music credits are to "Peter Doherty", and Mr Doherty himself has also said he prefers to be called 'Peter'. Would it make sense to move this article from being called 'Pete Doherty' to 'Peter Doherty'? Pullshapes (talk) 22:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, we have already 3 articles with the title 'Peter Doherty'. Either we keep it 'Pete Doherty' or we change it to 'Peter Doherty (musician)'. I'd prefer the first over the second. And anyway, just because Doherty currently prefers 'Peter' over 'Pete', doesn't mean we should immediately change this article's name. Malfacteur (talk) 01:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I know, hence why I also mentioned music credits and the like. On front of CD covers (for example see For Lovers), and well, on all things official/professional, he's credited as Peter. Live shows which he plays solo also feature 'Peter' e.g. 'An evening with Peter Doherty'... it's a while since the shows have passed so finding links to the official flyers could take a while, but the reviews here and here mention this. Pullshapes (talk) 01:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- To be perfectly honest, I don't care much whether it'll stay 'Pete' or become 'Peter'. However, it appears to me that it's not really necessary to change the article name because 'Pete' is a form of 'Peter' and not a totally different name. And even though it's officially 'Peter Doherty' this man is more commonly known as 'Pete Doherty' to the public. And that his birth name is 'Peter', that is mentioned in the article and the infobox. Malfacteur (talk) 09:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's been long enough now, surely this should be "Peter"? Turkeyphant 12:59, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- To be perfectly honest, I don't care much whether it'll stay 'Pete' or become 'Peter'. However, it appears to me that it's not really necessary to change the article name because 'Pete' is a form of 'Peter' and not a totally different name. And even though it's officially 'Peter Doherty' this man is more commonly known as 'Pete Doherty' to the public. And that his birth name is 'Peter', that is mentioned in the article and the infobox. Malfacteur (talk) 09:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Date of birth
[edit]Peter Dohertys birthday is actually the 29th of March and not the 12th as shown on the main page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashbrown5989 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Do you have any proof? Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 23:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Personal life section
[edit]This is no more gossip than him passing, failing or taking drug tests. Is all referenced and factual. Stop taking unilateral action. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Talkshowbob (talk • contribs) 13:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hearsay about his reputation and some speculating about a possible new girlfriend = gossip. THIS IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIC article and not the Potty Pete fanpage! (Him failing drug tests resulted in imprisonment and much media attention worldwide btw.) Malfacteur (talk) 14:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Your view -on its own- dose not create a concencus. So i have reverted it. I don’t see how its “hearsay” about his reputation, just that he has picked up a lot of interest in Reading. Seems as relevant to the article as where he is currently living, or well the fact that its rented, and who its rented off. Shall we start putting everyone’s landlords into their wiki entries?--81.159.89.230--Prophesy (talk) 01:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- That part about where he is currently living ... neither did I add it nor do I think it's relevant for the article. Should be deleted. He's seeing a local girl .. pffft... you read such made up stories once per week in many tabloids. The article that serves as source reads "Doherty is rumoured to be dating a girl who lives in West Reading". That's tabloid gossip at it's best! And the fire at Reading Festival: "Pete Doherty is believed to have alerted the fire brigade after spotting the blaze" says the source. Therefore it's a just a rumor. I'll delete it now and if you readd it I'll just contact a administrator and let them handle this. Malfacteur (talk) 14:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with the above posters, this was a relevant passage. As Prophesy points out your view on its own dose not make a consensus, wiki is not built on one person pushing there ideas over the crowd and editing without a discussion here as you have been doing. I feel that both sections are as relevant as anything else in the under the same heading. Wiki is not like a normal encyclopedia, it has much wider scope. I think it should be reinstated and I feel that until others complain that that paragraph is unencyclopedic you should leave it alone.--195.26.60.43 (talk) 17:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
It says in that Pete had a catholic upbringing, this is untrue as his father is a catholic but does not attend mass. He used to attend church but then he stopped. He didn't have a catholic or Christian upbringing. Please remove this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.121.7 (talk) 08:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Peter DID have a Catholic up-bringing/family environment along with influences from his mother's side (her father was Jewish.) Hence his crossing himself, references to God, Christ, wearing a crucifix and usage of rosaries. Ask him. Also, he is NOT a Scientologist. "Dating" one or reading books regarding this religion does not make one a Scientologist. Call or write Mr. Doherty to confirm that this is a falsehood printed as "fact" in Wikipedia. This is the sort of irresponsible nonsense that casts doubt on the accuracy of Wikipedia. The two articles cited as "evidence" of Peter being a Scientologist are absolute rubbish if they're setting out to prove he is a Scientologist, as he would tell you himself. Please DELETE the listing at the END of the article where it states without doubt that his is a Scientologist until you have contacted him. False statements. Fail.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Silkpillows (talk • contribs) 05:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- This person's right, i too was surprised and looked into those articles cited, all they do is suggest he's been reading scientology due to his girlfriend (now ex), they also qualify the statements adding hes been looking into a whole range of different beliefs. If he really was a scientologist, surely he'd be open about it and be shouting it from the rooftops with pride as most converts to the religion do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.130.252 (talk) 06:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- Unless anyone can provide evidence is is a MEMBER of the church, i am going to delete / amend the section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.130.252 (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- What religion is he now? Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 21:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Unless anyone can provide evidence is is a MEMBER of the church, i am going to delete / amend the section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.130.252 (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- This person's right, i too was surprised and looked into those articles cited, all they do is suggest he's been reading scientology due to his girlfriend (now ex), they also qualify the statements adding hes been looking into a whole range of different beliefs. If he really was a scientologist, surely he'd be open about it and be shouting it from the rooftops with pride as most converts to the religion do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.130.252 (talk) 06:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Please correct article. He has russian descent. In the end of August, he was in Russia and has given interview russian MTV. He said what his mother half russian. His maternal grandmother is Russian. I know what here it has been written that at his mother russian descent, but it for not clear reasons have removed. http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/9dje7pXdK4b3.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.179.86.205 (talk) 19:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I've added a passing reference to his bisexuality. This seems to be common knowledge and does not seem to made a big deal of in the media, but would appreciate anyone coming forward with more robust sources if they exist. Doherty's time as a rent boy (with men or "old lonely queens" as he called them) certainly seems strongly sourceable, but that in itself would not of course make him bisexual in the strict sense of the word. Contaldo80 (talk) 13:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Is he bisexual, or is it that he used to be merely gay for pay? Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 21:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Don't know. I can't find any reputable sources that repeat the rent boy story other than the biography by Pete Walsh. Who knows what is true and how much is "teasing" and titillation designed to provide a mystique? Contaldo80 (talk) 09:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Ref 51 is an article from a reputable source which cites the biography; Doherty admitted to having been a rent boy. The only dispute is his sexual orientation. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
- Don't know. I can't find any reputable sources that repeat the rent boy story other than the biography by Pete Walsh. Who knows what is true and how much is "teasing" and titillation designed to provide a mystique? Contaldo80 (talk) 09:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Where does his money come from?
[edit]With no discernable commercial success, how can he afford "a nine-bedroomed red-brick Georgian house on the outskirts of Marlborough, Wiltshire - the house is leased from Lord Cardigan."? DavidFarmbrough (talk) 20:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
What do you mean? He's had several top twenty hits, he gets 1-2 grand for pub gigs, he gets thousands for interviews, he plays all the summer festivals.
Grace/Wastelands
[edit]"On 13 January 2008 NME.COM announced that Doherty's solo album, entitled Grace/Wastelands would be released on March 16 [...]" is wrong. It was on 13 January 2009.--Fbbaar (talk) 09:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Origin: London, England?
[edit]If he was born in Hexham and spent most of his life outside London, why is his origin given as "London, England"? Or is "origin" just the place where he started his music career? 217.155.20.163 (talk) 19:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- The origin in musician infobox has been disputed on several articles. I understand it as being where the subject began their career as a musician, which in Doherty's case was London. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 21:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Last of the English Roses
[edit]Last of the English Roses peaked at #10 on the Billboard Hot Singles sales chart in the US, I think that's worth adding to the page. Here's the reference: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?g=Singles&f=Hot Singles Sales He's at #25 in this his second week on the chart. 24.80.252.85 (talk) 03:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Mislabelling
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In the beginning in the article where it says that the libertines are a punk rock band it should say an indie rock band.Thank you John
Done Thanks! Celestra (talk) 01:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Doherty sings Nazi song at performance in Germany
[edit]BERLIN (AFP) - Rocker Pete Doherty was hauled off stage at a weekend music festival in Germany after he began signing Nazi anthem "Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles" during his set, reports said on Monday.
Revellers at the on3 festival in Munich booed and shouted at Doherty, but he carried on singing until organisers removed him from the stage, Bavaria's TZ newspaper reported.
Doherty's tirade was broadcast live on Bavarian public radio, the festival's organisers.
"We decided to stop Peter Doherty's appearance on stage as quickly as possible," organisers Bayerischer Rundfunk said in a statement.
It is the latest in a long line of controversies for the 30-year-old Babyshambles singer, whose career has been marred by drug use and jail time.
The lines come from the first verse of the "Song of Germany" and this verse was used as the national anthem under the Nazis.
While the verse is not banned in Germany, it has not been sung since World War II because of its close links with Adolf Hitler.
Source posted Nov. 30, 2009:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091130/world/germany_britain_nazism_people_music Antes11 (talk) 17:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Edit request on 2 February 2012
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Peter Doherty was released from Prison on 4th of July 2011 and is currently living at number <redacted> while also living at an apartment in France
MrFactMan (talk) 17:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not done, unless you have a source. And even then, we won't post his exact address--Jac16888 Talk 18:23, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Citation refers to dead link
[edit]Currently citation 45: "^ Alexander, Hilary (27 June 2007). "Doherty becomes fashion contender for Moss". The Daily Telegraph (London). Retrieved 29 June 2007." gets redirected to the telegraph home page. Need a new source for claims made in text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.217.128.170 (talk) 03:11, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Solo work and Guerrilla gigs
[edit]On 4th August, Doherty reviled to NME magazine, he is working on his second solo album with English producer Adem Hilmi.http://www.nme.com/news/pete-doherty/63059 Midnightbus23 (talk) 12:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midnightbus23 (talk • contribs) 06:47, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Death of Mark Blanco
[edit]Why is there no mention of this anywhere in the article? See, for example, "CCTV suggests death fall Mark Blanco probably 'dropped'" at the BBC website. And please don't say that it's because of an "ongoing criminal investigation", since there clearly isn't one. See also Justice For Mark Blanco and references therein. Dr5t3v3 (talk) 10:40, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 18 February 2013
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On April 4th 2012, Doherty revealed progress on his second solo album and new collaboration with English producer Adem Hilmi, "His name [the producer] is Adem Hilmi and he works at Slaughterhouse Studios in Harlesden. He's taken my hard drive with a view to putting this album together. It'll be 12 songs."[1]
Midnightbus23 (talk) 05:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Where exactly do you want this information to be added? Vacation9 12:57, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
References
- ^ Fullerton, Jamie. "Pete Doherty: 'I've got 12 songs for my new solo album'". NME.com. Retrieved 18 February 2013.
People banned from entering the United States
[edit]Is he really permanently "banned" from ever entering the US, or was he just denied entry a single time? (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 02:01, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2014
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Under Family and personal life there is the following line :
"After numerous attempts to convince him to start a serious rehab, in early 2005 Doherty's father decided he was tired of broken promises and vowed not to see his son again until the latter was clean of drugs."
Use of the phrase "the latter" here is unnecessary as there is not a list to reference. This should be replaced by either "he" (It is already established in the sentence that the drug addiction is Petes) or by his name (Pete / Doherty /Pete Doherty). 89.100.127.148 (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Done - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 18:06, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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