Talk:Lawn darts

This article was nominated for deletion on 2006 July 10. The result of the discussion was keep.

photograph?

I have some of these darts somewhere. I'll try to get some pictures up here. --Kalmia 05:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

etymology

What is the derivation of "jarts"? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was the name given to one manufacturer's (Regent's) version of the lawn dart - said Jarts on the box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.170.88.70 (talk) 06:06, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Javelin Darts? Saxophobia 03:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a southernism, akin to the phrase "djeet yet?"? 5 October 2009 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.242.15.26 (talk) 14:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I took one of these to the forehead once

It stuck in place. Those were innocent times. Should I add a picture of the scar? - Richfife 00:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hah, and I had a Tonka Truck zoom off a ramp and into my forehead. The blood flowed like tapwater. Fun times. Bastie 02:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, if you have a photo of the scar, that might add something worthwhile to the article. WilyD 13:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take one. It's mild, but noticable. Especially if the light is right. - Richfife 16:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My camera won't focus closely enough. I can't get enough pixels to show it off. - Richfife 17:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GEEKS OFF THE BOW CAP'N!!

This article just got linked to on Slashdot today. Watch for trolls! E. Sn0 =31337= ^Talk 19:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Variations

There were several versions of lawn darts made by different companies. One of the oddest was mostly plastic, with only the tip being metal. The fins were free to rotate and slide along a plastic shaft. The three fins had angled tips so they'd spin during flight, presumably to improve accuracy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.136.145.226 (talk) 04:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I changed the language from 'use' to 'sale' regarding UK because the wording made it seem like Lawn Darts are illegal to use in the USA (as far as I can tell they are only banned for sale).

most recent death - citation needed

In the current version of the article, there is a reference to a 1997 death, followed by phrase "citation needed". The reference in the previous sentence (a pointer to the US CPSC web site) discusses the event and proves the 1997 date. Is the "citation needed" reference there because someone did not check the previous sentences reference? Or is the issue that we are not sure that 1997 is still the most recent? http://www.jarts.com/media.htm makes a reference to a 1980 murder using lawn darts, but no reference to the age (and since the injury was intentional rather than accidental, the circumstances are different than what caused the ban.) Andrew.langmead 12:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After looking at the materials again. It seems as if the 1997 CPSC notice, and the 1980 article only discuss a 1997 brain injury, not a fatality. Either this article is stating the injury was more severe than reported, or we are missing the reference that shows the injury turned into a fatality. (how long after an initial injury does a death occur when it is still considered to be caused by the initial injury?)

Crime Object?

Should this be listed in a category with nailbombs and such? Possession of lawn darts is not illegal, neither is their use. They are only illegal to sell (in the US). I'd remove it, but curious to know what others think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djdatapimp (talk • contribs) 22:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Use and misuse

"when misused, these darts can cause skull punctures and other serious injuries"

The problem with lawn darts is that they're pretty dangerous even when used properly. You're asking a child to throw a heavy, pointy object into the air in the vicinity of other children. We could just remove "when misused" and maybe add "when falling from a height" or something. We shouldn't overstate the danger, but we shouldn't pretend that perfectly safe "when used as directed." --Tysto (talk) 06:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nannystate

I didn't even know these got banned. This actually used to be an outdoor family game of our family when I was younger. Makes one wonder when everything is going to get banned "for the good of the people" (Shouldn't that sound familiar to.... Communists?) because its "dangerous" next. Dangerous my ass. You throw them at a target, you don't aim at someones head. Lets work on banning the Wii next, I mean someone could end up with a broken body part if the Wiimote gets accidentally thrown at them. Please. Government, stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and start doing what you are supposed to be doing. Protecting our freedom. Banning a game is not protecting our freedom. Fellow Americans, can you all remember who will be doing more worrying about what everyone else is doing instead of protecting our freedoms when you go to vote? Because Obama doesn't give a damn about this country, he gives a damn about his power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.141.84 (talk) 23:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please leave your rant somewhere else. Trying telling the father of this 7 year old girl. http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/mp30/lawndarts.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric Peebles (talk • contribs) 15:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And your point? The death was a result of misuse. People die everyday from the misuse of items: cars, guns, knives, alcohol, drugs. He should have sued the neighbors and left the rest of us the hell alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.132.252 (talk) 22:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right, and we have restrictions on cars and guns too. Your analogy with the Wii is pointless - no one has died or been seriously injured from (mis)using the Wii controller. Lawn darts weren't banned because they might hurt someone - they were banned because they did. Multiple times. --203.214.40.120 (talk) 22:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was just thinking fondly on the times we used to throw them over a house at each other, with the "receivers" calling out corrections like Fire Controllers for the artillery. Fun times. No, properly used, they're no more dangerous than, say, shotguns. But you don't give shotguns to a bunch of twelve year old boys and tell them to be back in time for supper. Some things simply can't be sold as toys.--184.37.25.129 (talk) 22:19, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have the same fond memory, and a tiny scar on my left shoulder where the dart struck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 00:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly IS dangerous?

I myself have had a foot borken form a errant horse shoe, perfectly sober thank you. They can, and have fallen from similar heights as a lawn dart. Especially from the hands of inexperienced shoe throwers. My neighbor took one to the windshield of his car. Imagein if he was driving! Ok. Here is my argument. Horse shoes should be labeled for "ADULT USE ONLY" or "Under the DIRECT SUPERVISION of an ADULT". Ralph nader had the Corvaire removed simply because his daughter was killed in one. (Please provide a reference for this nonsensical statement.Cross Reference (talk) 13:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)) Tragic, but there was NO direct correlation between the car's design and her death. Inexperience in driving was the cause. She coult have died in an M1 Abrhams tank in the right circumstance. Yes, children died from Lawn Darts. They have also died from the most seemingly harmless items laying arround the house we assume to be safe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.67.150.1 (talk) 17:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A horseshoe is a hard object, but it is not a hard pointed object. A misthrown horseshoe can give you a nasty bump on the head, but a misthrown metal lawndart can go right through a skull.--RLent (talk) 20:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weight

What did a lawn dart weigh? Badagnani (talk) 04:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Banned in the US/Canada

I am sure there should be some sort of ironic examination of this ban! A harmless summer game involving hand thrown metal darts that are designed to drop into the ground.

Yet after a couple of accidents involving misuse, the CPA immediately outlaws them....whereas after Columbine, Virginia Tech et al, the National Rifle Association believes that the only time guns should be taken from their owners is from their "cold dead hands".

Classic...and very, very amusing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.135.125 (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or you're a smarmy idiot. --96.240.113.123 (talk) 05:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- However, all that said, the article is conspicuously missing any discussion as to why the darts were banned from sale. Can we cite incidents, etc. that led the US and Canada to put in the ban? Odd thing is I remember buying a set in the early 90s, in Canada, so the ban didn't seem to be very heavily enforced. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 15:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or because there are no other legitmate uses for lawn darts? Since AFAIK they aren't legal for hunting anywhere in the world, & I'm unaware of any sport lawn dart-throwing contests, nor are lawn darts used in Olympic competition... TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 01:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Firearms are expected to be lethal; law toys (teddy bears, baby cribs, etc) are not reasonably expected to be lethal, so the user apparently is not expected to be aware of danger. One could also wonder how many kids deterred from playing with lawn darts turned to bicycling or swimming in the summer? --Naaman Brown (talk) 20:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gonna fly then

So when was the first lawn dart produced...? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 01:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a bad question. That's why I just came to this article, to find date of introduction. --Naaman Brown (talk) 20:05, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Widely Available Online

Got two last summer. Manufactured new. Still being made. Awesome! 69.174.87.44 (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)Joe[reply]

Globalize

I added the globalize/US tag to the "safety and bans" section because the current content brings to mind some unanswered questions: Is the death toll of lawn darts comparable in the rest of the world, and have bans been proposed or implemented anywhere outside of US and Canada? ~ booyabazooka 05:06, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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