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Children's book author
It seems that J.L.C. is also known as an author of children's books. Try http://www.google.com/search?q=jamie lee curtis children's . As I'm not much of an article writer, I won't even attempt to amend the article itself, but it should be done!! -- User:jnothman — Preceding undated comment added 09:36, 7 November 2004 (UTC)
Lady Haden-Guest
Please don't patronise me. Policy is to use "Baron" and "Baroness" for the lowest rank of non-Scottish Peers, because that's the legal term for the rank and the form that is found in legal names. You just need to look at any article on a male Life Peer — they are listed as "John Smith, Baron Such-and-Such", even though they're never called that in "conventional usage". Proteus (Talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:52, 26 June 2005 (UTC)
Vitucci grandfather
Someone added this claim, no doubt from the AION website (a website that lists actresses of Italian descent). They say that Tony Curtis' grandfather was an Italian named Vitucci, but it is quite explicitly stated here that his mother was a Helen Klein.[1] Does anyone have a reliable source for the Vitucci thing? Mad Jack 06:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- the source is an italian book, "La banalità del bene", where, in an interview, Tony Curtis says he had a grandparent called Vitucci. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.20.112.46 (talk) 12:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Newer picture
I need a more recent picture for a wikinews article on Jamie Lee Curtis, but I don't get the image liscensing with actors and actresses. So can someone upload a fair use picture of her on Wikipedia, and then I'll upload it on Wikinews? Thanx. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 15:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
The Image
I can't get it to work the Jamieleecurtisstar and it is the PERFECT image for her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokemaster Justin (talk • contribs) 15:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Anon adding titles
I dont know what the rules/preferences are for noble titles so someone may want to clean up the matter that has been added by the anon in the intro. It probably makes more sense to be listed later in the article. JoshuaZ 18:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
MORE magazine
Jamie Lee as she really is -- no lights, no makeup, no retouching. Photo: MORE magazine/September 2002
Jamie Lee Curtis: True Thighs Jamie Lee Curtis wants you to know the difference between celebrity illusion and all-too-real life. [2]
Four years ago, Jamie Lee Curtis made magazine history by revealing her true body -- even a poochy midriff -- in More. Could she get any more real? She could. She does. Jamie Lee Curtis: On Growing Older & Wiser [3]
She is kind of famous, for her efforts to fight magazine-cover-beauty-fakery. Seems worth a mention in the article. -69.87.199.172 11:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Salary History
Is this section really needed, or even appropriate? How much somebody is paid doesn't sound like encyclopaedia material to me, and quite frankly, it is none of our business how much she was payed. I've removed the section for these reasons Lochok 23:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Salary history really does seem like encyclopaedia material. It would be great for research purposes to have a source of salaries for various actors and actresses for any number of reasons. I suppose a lot of the information for actors could be found on IMDB, but I don't see why it shouldn't be on Wikipedia as well. Khyth 19:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Why is her weight on here?
Why is her weight on here? lol.. is she a boxer? Is that really relevant? Also, the AARP thing is just a recent news item, not encyclopedia material... i would think. I'll delete that sentence if nobody objects. Angelatomato (talk) 21:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Name?
As written, the article lede implies that Jamie Lee Haden-Guest is her legal name, but that Jamie Lee Curtis is what she is "universally known as". Is Haden-Guest actually her legal last name? I don't know about the UK, but in the US a woman must take active steps change her name upon marriage -- it doesn't just happen automatically. Which raises the question: if she hasn't changed her name, is she properly known as "Jamie Lee Curtis, Baroness Haden-Guest"? --Jfruh 23:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- Under UK rules she wouldn't be either — peerages replace surnames, so her legal name is "The Right Honourable Jamie Lee, Baroness Haden-Guest" as far as British law is concerned (the article should probably mention this). I can't comment on US law, as I know next to nothing about it. However, I'm almost certain we don't have a policy on what to do when legal names in different jurisdictions clash. As the title is British, however, it makes sense to use British conventions when using it as part of her name. Proteus (Talk) 00:17, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- I changed the lede to match this info. It would be nice to get some kind of confirmation on her actual legal name in the US. --Jfruh 21:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- Not to be nit-picky about the name, but I think that the title shouldn't be used as the very first name in the article unless we have some confirmation that she legally changed her name to same in the US. I know as you said that her name changed automatically under British law to reflect her husband's title, but since she's US citizen resident in the US most of the time, I think her name under US law should come first. Anyway, as you note she doesn't legally have a surname, yet her surname is listed as "Haden-Guest" in the edit you just made... --Jfruh 01:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- I definitely don't think that it is necessary to mention the title at the top as she never uses it:
- Not to be nit-picky about the name, but I think that the title shouldn't be used as the very first name in the article unless we have some confirmation that she legally changed her name to same in the US. I know as you said that her name changed automatically under British law to reflect her husband's title, but since she's US citizen resident in the US most of the time, I think her name under US law should come first. Anyway, as you note she doesn't legally have a surname, yet her surname is listed as "Haden-Guest" in the edit you just made... --Jfruh 01:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- "Nobody addresses me as Lady Guest anywhere except perhaps at the House of Lords. It's what they do there—and it's probably the only place in the world where anyone will address me in that manner even if I go, `Oh no, no, no, just call me Jamie.'"
- As it is mentioned further down that is enough. Arniep 20:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- It is our policy to start articles with full legal names, regardless of what people use, so what she says is totally irrelevant (especially as she doesn't even appear to know what her title is, which is rather careless of her). See, for instance, Thomas Pakenham, Bertrand Russell and Colin Moynihan. Proteus (Talk) 23:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- But you haven't answered the question of whether it is her legal name in the country where she lives and was (I believe) married. The version we had a while back -- "Jamie Lee Curtis (born November 22, 1958), known under British law as The Right Honourable Jamie Lee, Baroness Haden-Guest" -- seems to me the best way around that question until it is answered definitively. --Jfruh 23:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Proteus has an obsession with titles. It is just completely inappropriate to include this at the top of an article of a hollywood actress especially as she has said she is never addressed as that and never uses it. Arniep 01:14, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have an obsession with accuracy. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you find something else to do with your time, since Wikipedia clearly isn't for you. Proteus (Talk) 22:20, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately it's not what policy says the article should start with (and would be a completely unprecedented format). Proteus (Talk) 22:20, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- I guess my question for you, Proteus, is: Why should the law of a country where she does not live and of which she is not a citizen determine her legal name, or determine her "first citation" name in Wikipedia? I think this may be a case where different jurisdictions would consider her to have different legal names. What does policy have to say about that? --Jfruh 23:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't consider it an issue — it simply says that people with titles have articles starting with them. Proteus (Talk) 16:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, perhaps it should consider that an issue. I shall take it up over there then. --Jfruh 18:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- I guess my question for you, Proteus, is: Why should the law of a country where she does not live and of which she is not a citizen determine her legal name, or determine her "first citation" name in Wikipedia? I think this may be a case where different jurisdictions would consider her to have different legal names. What does policy have to say about that? --Jfruh 23:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- Proteus has an obsession with titles. It is just completely inappropriate to include this at the top of an article of a hollywood actress especially as she has said she is never addressed as that and never uses it. Arniep 01:14, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- But you haven't answered the question of whether it is her legal name in the country where she lives and was (I believe) married. The version we had a while back -- "Jamie Lee Curtis (born November 22, 1958), known under British law as The Right Honourable Jamie Lee, Baroness Haden-Guest" -- seems to me the best way around that question until it is answered definitively. --Jfruh 23:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Just to point out, US citizens may not accept British titles. It is the law. By doing so, they relinquish their US citizenship. Barring evidence that Curtis has done so, the Baroness title is simply what the folks in the UK call her. Risker 05:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Then I will point out that there is no such law in the U.S. What you refer to is called the Titles of Nobility Amendment, which was proposed by congress as an amendment to the U.S. Constitution. (in the early 1800's) Although being passed by the Senate and the House, requires ratification by two-thirds of the states to become effective law. (And has been passed by twelve states as of this time) It needs another 26 states before it could become law. Atom 06:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Getting pretty far off-topic here, but the law may not be as clear cut as Atom claims. The U.S. Constitution does forbid federal and state government from granting titles of nobility, and also forbids certain persons from accepting such titles while holding office (Article 1 Sections 9 and 10). Also you may want to have a look at 8 USC 1448(b) and 8 CFR 337.1, requiring renunciation of such titles in order to be naturalized, and finally be aware that accepting such titles may indeed jeopardize your citizenship if acceptance involves taking an oath to a foreign state or its political subdivisions. Oh, and by the way constitutional amendments require ratification of three-fourths of the states, not two-thirds. 148.87.1.171 09:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
- I believe it is two-thirds of the states to introduce an amendment, three-quarters (as you say) to ratify. As Jamie Lee Curtis is a citizen, and so has no need to naturalize, and as being british royalty requires no oath to a foreign state, the rest is trivial. Apparently it needs another 26 states to ratify and become effective law. My point, "US Citizens may accept British titles." Atom (talk) 04:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Addressing her it would correctly be "Lady Haden-Guest". In introducing, "Lady Haden-Guest, Baroness of Saling". All titled people may "style" themselves as they desire (or as the Queen desires). As such, it would seem that Lady Haden-Guest prefers to be styled as "Jamie Lee Curtis". Atom 16:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Peerage title in opening paragraph
From Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies):
- While the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name should be given in the lead paragraph, if known. Many cultures have a tradition of not using the full name of a person in everyday reference, but the article should start with the complete version.
No-one would argue that the article should be at Jamie Lee Curtis, Baroness Haden-Guest as the title should be the most commonly used name. However, according to Wikipedia guidelines, the opening paragraph should include the complete version whether it's in everyday use or not. JRawle (Talk) 13:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- The full title should NOT be the first mentioned as she is rarely, if ever, referred to by the full title. The MOS guidance above does not require that it must be the first mentioned, only suggests that the title should be mentioned in the lede. older ≠ wiser 13:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- ...the article should start with the complete version, and to me, "start with" means it comes first. But I won't change it again and start an edit war (although I have made a slight change as "Jamie Lee" is not part of her "title"). JRawle (Talk) 14:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think your change is fine. I don't really know (or care all that much) what the official title is. There needs to be a element of common sense as well -- if a person is not commonly known by the title it seems rather peculiar to put forward that title in the first instance of the lede as if it were common. older ≠ wiser 14:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
The current version seems fine to me. Proteus (Talk) 14:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- It should be 'Lady Haden-Guest' not Baroness. No-one except Wikipedia refers to the wife of a Baron as a Baroness, however "correct" it may be in absolute terms. We make ourselves look like idiots for saying so. David | Talk 22:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- So if I were to provide a counter-example to your claim, let's say Burke's calling the wife of the late Lord Soames "The Baroness Soames" [4], you'd stop doing this? Proteus (Talk) 22:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'll take that edit as a "no", then. Come on, you're not this ridiculous — the whole "backing up assertions" business works both ways, you know. I've provided a respectable source doing what you're saying is never done, so are you going to provide one saying that calling Barons' wives Baronesses should never be done, or am I to assume you're just going to ignore the talk page and revert until I get bored and go away? Proteus (Talk) 23:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Education
Didn't Jamie Lee attend Miss Porters school in CT? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.28.15 (talk) 03:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
hellloooo
she needs a new picture!!!!!!this picture is decades old so please change it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.246.254 (talk) 08:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Possible candidate for new picture?
I found this much more recent photo of Jamie Lee Curtis - http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevehopson/3009756935/ - on Flickr. Would it be possible to contact the uploader to ask for permission to use it? David Rush (talk) 14:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, if you follow the steps in WP:Permissions, it should be quite possible. -Etoile (talk) 04:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Jamie Lee isn't a Baroness
Christopher Guest is not a peer/lord, his ancestor Christopher William Graham Guest, with who the title originated, was only a Life peer, and NOT a hereditary peer. As life peerages can't be inherited the title became extinct on 25 September 1984, when Christopher William Graham Guest died. As Christopher Guest is not a Baron, Jamie Lee is not a Baroness. Alanleonard (talk) 22:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am afraid you have your Baron Guests confused. Christopher Guest is the 5th Baron Haden-Guest of Saling, a hereditary peer and is not related to life peer and judge Baron Guest. Christopher's baronetcy originated with Leslie Haden-Guest, 1st Baron Haden-Guest and the current incumbent actually took his seat in the House of Lords for a short period of time until the major rehab of the House. A photograph of him and Baroness Guest (Jamie Lee Curtis) in their ermine robes at his maiden appearance was published in the British broadsheets at the time. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 23:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- While you are right that the actor and mockumentary director Christopher Guest is indeed a baron, Jamie Lee Curtis is not a baroness, as wives of English barons are not called baronesses unless they hold baronies in their own right. She does, however, have thr right to the courtesy title of "Lady". [1] Mmyers1976 (talk) 13:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
References
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I just wanted to add additional detail as to the season and episode of Jamie Lee Curtis' appearance on the Quincy M.E. show. I just watched it. It is season 2, episode 4.
Here are websites that confirm this: http://www.fandango.com/quincy,m.e.:visitorsinparadise_v434569/plotsummary http://www.blockbuster.com/browse/catalog/movieDetails/395635 http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Quincy,_M.E.:_Visitors_in_Paradise-V434569/ Ravisaj (talk) 05:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Done — Bility (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Semantic inaccuracy in re her alcoholism
The article states that she "was an alcoholic", however it is (afaik) universally accepted that since there is no cure for alcoholism "once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic". Therefore it would be better to say that she "is a successfully recovering alcoholic who has been sober for over XX years".
In fact she in her own words says "I know I'm an addict, and I know I'm an alcoholic" in this Reader's Digest interview which I believe makes a better reference than the Huffington Post article's more general content.
http://www.rd.com/jamie-lee-curtis-interview/article26801-1.html
In any case, it is wonderful that she has made such a great recovery and become such a great actress, wife, mother, and activist. --98.172.21.130 (talk) 20:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
As an alcoholic in recovery and in AA we refer to ourselves as "alcoholics" or "recovering alcoholics". However, one would have to present this to Ms. Curtis, and to use her preference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfmoberg (talk • contribs) 07:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually, it is not universally accepted that there is no cure because that would imply that the disease theory of alcoholism is itself universally accepted. I don't care about the semantic preference in this article I would just like to point out that using the term "universally xyz" should be done so carefully. While groups like AA and others may like to think that it is a disease and it is quite popular to say that it is, there is still controversy within the medical community. Remember: one negative in considering it a disease is that it diminishes personal responsibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.230.187 (talk) 03:24, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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In the second paragraph, I suggest that you add the fact that Jamie Lee Curtis is Tony Curtis' daughter. 174.103.183.109 (talk) 03:41, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Biblioworm 04:37, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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Baroness
As the wife of a baron, she is correctly referred to as 'Lady Haden-Guest', 'The Lady Haden-Guest', or 'The Rt Hon The Lady Haden-Guest'. (no first name is used). The place name 'of Saling, co. Essex' is not part of the title, it's just meant to clarify the place associated with the title. Not that I suspect she'd care, but Baroness, Lady Haden-Guest is redundant. Someone else — Preceding undated comment added 05:36, 5 October 2002 (UTC)
- She is not a baroness, as the wives of English barons do not automatically become baronesses, unless they hold a barony in their own right. She does have the right to the courtesy title of "Lady", however. Mmyers1976 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:26, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- As an American citizen, she cannot hold a title. 50.166.192.110 (talk) 23:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not so, see the discussion under "Name?", above. TJRC (talk) 23:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Where that "Name?" section is, now ... ("after" Archiving)
It has been moved to Talk:Jamie_Lee_Curtis/Archive_1#Name.3F ... due to some "Archiving" that apparently occurred, some time before today, but after "12 May 2015 (UTC)". For now, one could just click on the hyperlink given here; ... but -- just as an aside -- the word 'above' -- (as in, 'Not so, see the discussion under "Name?", above.') -- is now misleading, at best! [or, maybe worse ... maybe it is now false and misleading!] ... since the comment from TJRC [23:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)] has not been archived, so ... it is still here; while the actual "Name?" section -- which "used to" be << "above" >>, has now been moved to some final resting place, in an archive ...somewhere in cyberspace^H^H^H "Talk:" space.
I hope that helps.
"side" Comment (about problems resulting from "Archiving" practices)
I would like to discuss whether the current "customary" use of such "Archiving" [see above] practices or policies tends to create -- at least for a frozen "old" comment, that points to (or "refers" to) (or "talks" about) a certain section of a "Talk:" page that has now been locked away in a "retirement home" -- problems that are analogous to ... a dead link kind of situation; that is, like the problem "explained" in the paragraph "above" that starts out with << "It has been moved" >>. I think that our current "Archiving" practices or policies may have a tendency to create such problems, ... regardless of how "well behaved" the external (non-"Wikipedia") parts of the web might be ... or might become in the "future".
Maybe this is not the [best] place to discuss that topic; but if so, then ... is there some other place, that would be better? (where?) --Mike Schwartz (talk) 04:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
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Under Film, she starred in Ellen's Energy Adventure (1996) as Dr. Judy Peterson (Stupid Judy) 173.170.147.149 (talk) 03:18, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: It's not a film; it's more of an attraction. Nihlus 21:18, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Birth date needs citation
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Otherwise it has to be removed as a BLP vio. It's widely available, including at this RS cite: https://www.biography.com/people/jamie-lee-curtis-9542075 "Jamie Lee Curtis: Film Actor/Film Actress, Actress, Film Actress, Television Actress (1958--)", Biography.com (A&E Networks). --2604:2000:1382:E2B2:0:DA07:D6E:614D (talk) 19:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:26, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Jamie Lee Curtis rumors
Could somebody please delete the statement that Jamie Lee Curtis may be intersex according to Snopes? [1] This is the link to the Snopes article which states near the bottom: "The existence of such medical conditions is not reason in itself to suppose that Jamie Lee Curtis has any of them." It also states that Jamie Lee Curtis has never stated this was a fact, and that she was named BEFORE she was born. The entire Snopes article, in summary, dismisses this as an Internet rumor, but Wikipedia is citing Snopes as saying it is fact. Please read the entire article, instead of just the highlighted rumors at the top of the Snopes article that the article was addressing. Hopefully, you will agree, that Wikipedia is not the place to list every Internet rumor about living people. 2601:245:C100:F500:DC85:D334:28EE:3B1A (talk) 22:47, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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- I think you were misreading what the Wikipedia article said. At the time of your comment, the Wikipedia article said "A persistent rumor has been circulated that Curtis was born intersex, but neither Curtis nor her family or doctors have ever commented publicly about it, and the rumor remains completely unsubstantiated." That is exactly what you are saying is the case. It did not say the rumor has any basis in reality. The article was not "saying it is fact". The phrase "completely unsubstantiated" means there is no evidence that the rumor is true. The Wikipedia article also said nothing about her name. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:12, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
- Read WP:BLP. This garbage has repeatedly been excluded from the article and discussed as nauseam on the talk page and at BLPN. Persisting in adding it back against consensus and against policy is only likely to end with your editing privileges restricted. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 21:20, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- Apparently the prior discussion was deleted from the Talk page. I would also like to point out that it was not me that added that material to the article. However, I personally don't see why something reported by Snopes and other sources can't be mentioned in the article or discussed on the Talk page. I also found a very brief discussion of 11 years ago at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive3 (one comment with one reply). To me that's not much, and those comments seem unclear relative to the recent article content. I haven't yet reviewed the prior deleted Talk page discussions. I'll study those before further action. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:52, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- The origin of the rumor appears to be statements attributed to Dr. Anne Fausto-Sterling dating back to 1994, as well as a publication in the Baltimore Sun as an op-ed in 1996 discussing intersex. Dr. Fausto-Sterling denied ever making any such statements in 1996. The writer of the piece in 1996 states that he was unable to confirm the information, which he claimed originated within the intersex community. I first heard the rumor from an intersex activist who claimed first hand knowledge. None of what I was told is consistent with any published facts about Jamie Lee Curtis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:F340:3E30:DDF7:289:9853:BFEB (talk) 05:00, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Read WP:BLP. This garbage has repeatedly been excluded from the article and discussed as nauseam on the talk page and at BLPN. Persisting in adding it back against consensus and against policy is only likely to end with your editing privileges restricted. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 21:20, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
Goddess Mother to Nina Yankovic
Under Personal Life, the page mentions she is godmother to Jake Gyllenhal. She is also "goddess mother" to Nina Yankovic, Weird Al's daughter, likely through her friendship with former film executive Suzanne Yankovic (nee Krajewski) Weird Al's wife. Confirmation can be found on Suzanne's instagram, such as here. Thanks. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:2D21:4200:B9CB:965D:94AB:31AF (talk) 05:10, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
References
Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2021
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There is a few misspelled words including he pronouns referring to Curtis 174.34.238.226 (talk) 03:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thank you very much for your input! P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 07:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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Change “help her son Thomas” to “help her daughter Ruby” Jacktomato (talk) 18:28, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done I believe this is the correct change to make per current consensus. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2021
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Change that she has "a daughter and a transgender daughter" to "she has two daughters" 146.90.148.43 (talk) 03:17, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲(talk) 04:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Curtis endorsed Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election; she has since been a vocal critic of former President Donald Trump.[1] 2600:1003:B464:8179:3CE7:F116:51B5:7854 (talk) 18:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Sirdog (talk) 22:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Bowden, John (November 27, 2019). "Jamie Lee Curtis calls on voters to elect more women: 'We here in America are Luddites'". The Hill.
Lines on the graph are off
Awards and nominations section — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:4E00:2100:D486:75A:2439:2AA (talk) 12:34, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see any problem. You will need to be more specific. (CC) Tbhotch™ 18:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Acting career
The chronology of this section is messy. The reference to the Halloween franchise should be move to the end or moved to a special section. Refering to her as scream queen is not substatiated with any source. Theking2 (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- The nickname "Scream Queen" is easily verifiable; I've added a source to the article. Schazjmd (talk) 14:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2022
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There is a sentence in the 'Personal Life' section which mentions Curtis' daughters. It specifies Ruby's transness, which I think should be excised as I don't think it is necessary to the context of the sentence. The source that supports the sentence describes how Ruby is transgender - and whilst the source is necessary because it supports the fact about Ruby being Jamie's daughter - her being trans isn't relevant to the content of the sentence itself. It's inappropriate for Ruby to be defined by her transness, and in the context of this sentence it comes across as saying she's not a real woman (unlike her cisgender sister) - even if that wasn't the intention of the writer. I definitely think that wasn't the intention since the sentence is otherwise written respectfully. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 23:51, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)- I don't think that that's necessary - since someone else has already requested this alteration above - and had it approved. Someone must have changed it back, despite what was established in the talk, so I'd appreciate if my request was added. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 23:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with 92.10.13.209. That's unnecessarily personal information about a non-notable family member. I've removed it. Schazjmd (talk) 00:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Removed - FlightTime (open channel) 15:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with 92.10.13.209. That's unnecessarily personal information about a non-notable family member. I've removed it. Schazjmd (talk) 00:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think that that's necessary - since someone else has already requested this alteration above - and had it approved. Someone must have changed it back, despite what was established in the talk, so I'd appreciate if my request was added. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 23:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
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The personal information about Jamie Lee Curtis is incorrect in describing her as "The Right Honourable Lady Haden-Guest". The title "The Right Honourable" only applied to members of the Privy Council. She would be correctly described as "Lady Haden-Guest" Dr Roger (talk) 16:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is wrong so please ignore it!!! Dr Roger (talk) 17:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Jamie Lee Curtis
From its length and depth, this appears to be a self-written Wikipedia entry. Although I skimmed it, I found it fascinating and delightful. So thank you, Ms. Curtis: I like you even more than I did before. 2604:3D08:2D81:6B00:E5F0:7C68:310A:452C (talk) 19:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
WP:OWNERSHIP issues
Cryptkeeperfun seems to be displaying blatant WP:OWNERSHIP by blindly reverting mass edits here with nary an explanation. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think the same can be said for you. You are the one removing established content, not me. Don't be a hypocrite. Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 18:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Explain your reasoning instead of resorting to WP:PERSONALATTACKS. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please pay heed to your own advice. Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I did. Now your turn. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:55, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- No, you didn't. You are removing mass info from the heading for no valid reason, which appears to be vandalism, when I'm only restoring established content. It's clear you have an agenda and have resorted to making me an enemy, when I'm not. You're behaving like a brait and you should be ashamed of yourself. Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Firstly, it's called the WP:LEAD, and not a "heading". And it's a summary of the article, and not a listing of her credits. Also, please understand what WP:VANDALISM is. There is no such thing as an "established" content. An article, especially a B-class one as this, can and should be improved. And thirdly, and in more severe terms, calling people a "brat" and a "hypocrite" is exactly what WP:PERSONALATTACKS asks you not to do. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:04, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I do understand what WP:VANDALISM is, do you? That's why I was reverting your mass removal edits. Anyone reviewing our edits can clearly see you began threats and hostility towards me, nothing you can reply to me can change that. It's now up to other edits to restore the edits if they see fit, I'm not restoring anymore content from your mass removal agenda. Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 19:11, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- No, you didn't. You are removing mass info from the heading for no valid reason, which appears to be vandalism, when I'm only restoring established content. It's clear you have an agenda and have resorted to making me an enemy, when I'm not. You're behaving like a brait and you should be ashamed of yourself. Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I did. Now your turn. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:55, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please pay heed to your own advice. Cryptkeeperfun (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Explain your reasoning instead of resorting to WP:PERSONALATTACKS. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Jamie Lee Curtiss screen debut was in 1976
Jamie Lee Curtiss screen debut was in the 1976 Columbo episode The Bye-Bye Sky High I.Q. Murder Case - she played a waitress in a cafe and is credited as such at the end of the episode. 124.104.112.165 (talk) 15:05, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- A reliable source for this content is needed in order to include it in this article
or at List of Jamie Lee Curtis performances(already listed there). General Ization Talk 15:24, 19 May 2023 (UTC) - Not done Also, the air date of that episode was May 22, 1977 (not 1976). This is after her February 18, 1977 appearance on Quincy M.E., which is already noted as her television debut. General Ization Talk 15:33, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Edit request
The first paragraph after the lede states that Jamie Lee Curtis played Laurie Strode in “seven of the Halloween sequels”. This is incorrect and the citation does not state this. Curtis played Laurie Strode in seven Halloween films total, including six of the sequels. It’s not a big deal, just a wording issue, but it is incorrectSamRCossey (talk) 20:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2023
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Ms Curtis's title is not "The Right Honourable ..." : the title "The Right Honourable" is for members of the Privy Council only and Ms Curtis/ Lady Haden-Guest is not one. 2A00:23C8:E2C:3B01:1476:7CD3:D6C9:BC8A (talk) 16:02, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Calling her "The Right Honourable..." IS correct. See this link: https://theenglishmanner.com/forms-of-address/how-to-address-british-aristocracy/ 76.202.192.102 (talk) 02:18, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. According to our article on the title (The Right Honourable)), Barons and their spouses may use this honorific. PianoDan (talk) 20:36, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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Jamie Lee Curtis is a baroness. Baroness Haden-Guest 149.135.0.227 (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Already done This is covered in the personal life section. Jamedeus (talk) 00:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Personal life
They have two adopted daughters: Annie, born in 1986, and Ruby, born in 1996.
This is false they adopted a daughter named Annie and son named Thomas. You can add the Thomas transitioned and now calls themselves Ruby but to omit all reality, and change factual history, is contrary to the purpose of an encyclopedia.
Record Facts. Thank You. Zzvicezz (talk) 04:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Refer to MOS:GENDERID. Wikipedia is written under a neutral point of view respecting living people's lives. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:58, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- At the same time she was a bit public about Thomas becoming Ruby. Saxophonemn (talk) 07:00, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. If he wants to call himself a woman now, fine. But that doesn't change history. Jamie and her husband adopted a boy and a girl, not two girls. 76.202.192.102 (talk) 02:11, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Neutrality could read as"They have adopted two children,one of them came out as transgender". 2600:8801:FB13:6B00:3944:8E92:58F5:54EB (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)