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Dorival Caymmi has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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Date	Process	Result
November 3, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 21, 2011.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Dorival Caymmi (pictured), one of the fathers of bossa nova, loved to skinny dip?

Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on April 30, 2017, and August 16, 2024.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dorival Caymmi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk · contribs) 02:48, 30 October 2011 (UTC) I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.[reply]

Disambiguations: one found and fixed.[1] Jezhotwells (talk) 02:50, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linkrot: none found.

A substantial review will be posted within 48 hours. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
The article is "reasonably well written".

~~The lead does not fully summarise the article, omitting his marriage, also the Ratcliff quote in the lead is not present in the body - likewise the mention of his children. Please see WP:LEAD~~
I've added his marriage to the lead and the Ratcliff quote to the body. His children were already mentioned in the Personal life section. Armadillopteryx^talk 03:42, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~There should probably be a Reception section summarising other people's comments about him, also a Legacy section if possible. The two could possibly be combined.~~
Added. What do you think? Armadillopteryx^talk 08:36, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Equally notable are his ballads celebrating the fearless fishermen and dark-skinned women of Bahia Is this a quote? If so it should be attributed and cited - otherwise it is POV.
It's not a quote. I'll be glad to rewrite it, but I'm having trouble understanding what sounds POV. The sentence that precedes this one explains that he is well-known for his samba pieces. In this sentence, I want to communicate that his sambas are not his only famous work, for his ballads about the fishermen and women of Bahia are also well-known. What kind of adjustment do you have in mind? Armadillopteryx^talk 03:42, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is the weasel words "fearless" and drak-skinned", I have just removed them. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:10, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

where he performed, filmed a television show, and recorded an LP record. Which LP is that?
The source I got this fact from did not specify. (It says, "O sucesso o levou àquele país, onde fez shows, gravou um programa de TV e um LP, passando quatro meses em Los Angeles," which translates to "This success brought him to that country [the US], where, living in Los Angeles for four months, he performed concerts and recorded a TV program and an LP record.) Later today (or perhaps tomorrow), I'll reread a section of the biographical book I've cited to see if it gives more details about this. Armadillopteryx^talk 04:12, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, it would be good if it could be found for completeness.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
References appear to be RS, all major statements are cited, no evidence of OR
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
Appears to cover major aspects, no unnecessary trivia
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
One query above about a sentence in the lead.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Appears stable
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
One image used with suitable licenses and caption.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
On hold for seven days for above issues to be addressed.

Query (not part of GA review): It is worth considering a short (10%) sound file to illustrate his music. details of this at WP:Creation and usage of media files#Audio usage. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:08, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea; thanks! I've uploaded and inserted a sound file. Armadillopteryx^talk 06:52, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I think this passes muster now, so happy to list as GA. Congratulations! Jezhotwells (talk) 11:10, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]