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I remember reading in the St Petersburg Times around 2001, that each year in Russia 14,000 women are killed by family members. Anybody got the exact statistics?Malick78 07:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

With 14,570 murders total in Russia, that sounds slight exaggerated. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 17:45, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]


This whole article is a joke

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Instead of writing some sourced material on a TRUE problem this article gathers some feminist blabber and combines it with some Western rumors. The result can only be described as "total BS". Get statistics, stop manipulating fact, write an article not a propaganda blurb. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 17:46, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay which part is the feminist blather based on Western rumors? You tell us, pal. LOL. Everyone except Russians know that women are treated like shit in Russia.

That 14,000 women die each year in Russia from domestic-violence-related injuries. According to statistic of MVD SUMMARY number of homicides (men and women, whatever the circumstances) less than 14 000.--Макс Корейко (talk) 20:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Year Summary registered number of homicides or attempts Source
2013 12361 Документ
2014 11933 Документ
2015 11496 Документ
2016 10444 Документ
2017 9738 Документ
2018 8574 Документ

The Majority of these women are Muslims and Romani.--92.75.144.246 (talk) 16:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of sources

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Since the bill in January 2017 a lot of attention was paid to this. The early sources need work and a whole section on the July 2016 restriction bill then the backlash in 2017 January. These laws have been attempted for 20 years with many incarnations.

Domestic violence is not only violence against women it also includes violence against men and also against children and senior citizens of both genders. The "classical" wife-beating is primary a Muslim thing in Russia. Russian Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Animists and Irreligious are on average not more violent than other Non-Muslims. The only Non-Muslims in Russia who have a big problem with violence againt women are Romani People and the Yazidis.--95.113.249.178 (talk) 17:15, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BBC numbers

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Removed the sentence: "In 2013, the BBC reported information from a Russian interior ministry that 600,000 women were physically or verbally abused at home and 14,000 of them died that year from injuries inflicted by their partner" .[1]

That is obviously untrue. 14,000 equals to all homicides in Russia a year. Of which some 3,000 are female wictims. See eg. Homicide Victims by Gender and Country. It could be 1,400 or something else. 600,000 verbally insulted women per year is credible, but better source is needed for the death toll. --J. Sketter (talk) 11:19, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Every fourth family in Russia experiences some form of domestic violence, with 82 percent of such crimes being committed by husbands, according to government statistics. Each year, about 14,000 women die at the hands of their husbands or intimate partners. In the United States, by comparison, this number stands at about 1,200, according to the 2001 Bureau of Justice Statistics Report. Russia’s population is 144 million; the U.S. population is 293 million." [1]. Alatari (talk) 13:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reuters also reports 10,000 to 14,000 deaths of women per year estimate.[2] You are looking at homicides and not all deaths will be considered homicides or even investigated. I'm restoring the source with another to back it. Alatari (talk) 13:45, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are now 3 sources with over 10,000 per year. You will need to cite a counter source explaining the death discrepency between reported homicides and total deaths of women from injuries. Alatari (talk) 14:04, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources refer to the numbers of feminist "Center ANNA" (financed by western funds). Official statistics given by Ministry of Internal Affairs claim that total number of victims of domestic violence in 2015 - 1060 people (of both sexes and all ages). Data of 14 000 women, dying from the hands of their husbands and partners every year - is absolute nonsense. Total number of violent deaths in Russia (excluding suicides) less than 10 000 per year (both men and women). 94.180.88.49 (talk) 17:43, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I stand corrected in that at least in mid-2000's that was given as an official figure. When the same exact number is given still in 2013, with vague ref to "official information" it gives an unavoidable impression of blind circulating of old numbers. But, someone else can dig up more clarification for the current situation. --J. Sketter (talk) 01:16, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "The silent nightmare of domestic violence in Russia". www.bbc.com. 1 March 2013. Retrieved 5 February 2017.

Major overhaul

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Okay, I added a dozen new up to date sources, removed some obvious wester number-cracking, and added a lot of new info. Please be nuanced and if you want to correct something find a better source. Also would appreciate help with formatting. F.Alexsandr (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decriminalization

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In February 2017, with the support of the Russian Orthodox Church, Russia decriminalized domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" (such as broken bones or a concussion)[38] and does not happen more than once a year.[39] As a result, domestic violence increased[40][41] while reporting declined sharply, and police began to refuse to investigate domestic violence cases.[4]

It's a "damaged phone". To be clear, Criminal Code of Russian Federation and other laws don't use the term domestic violence at all. The thing that was decriminalized is literally called побои в отношении близких лиц (battery against relatives). Both street and domestic violence against relatives are decriminalized. Also, I think it should be added that it didn't become legal.--Reprarina (talk) 08:09, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]