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Gold medallion pictures

Of the two pictures currently on the article page the obverse is not Constantius, does not belong to that reverse, not Constantius, but a Constantine, guessing Constantine I? Here is a link showing the actual obverse https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/01/6f/11016f28525c58e91d7818d5f4b1555a.jpg Middle More Rider (talk) 12:58, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Was commonly known as ???

The article says he was commonly known as the Chlorus and then it says this name is given to him by the byzantine historians... So in his lifetime was he called Chlorus or not? If not the first sentence needs to change, if so then the name can not be given to him by the byzantine historians. Remember that byzantine period is much later than his lifetime. Also, there never was a byzantine historian or a state or a period... The correct term would be eastern Roman.

Incorrect. "Byzantine Empire" or Byzantium is a common historical term for the eastern portion of the Roman Empire after the the Fall of the West in 476 A.D. 98.67.182.193 (talk) 00:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He was not described as Chlorus until centuries after he died. The term appears only in the 6th century AD. GPinkerton (talk) 04:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic background (sigh...)

Well, actually I'm with Albanau on this one. For three reasons:

The anonymous essay linked to as a reference for the Greek-origins claim is not a reliable source.
The source doesn't make clear whether it (or its sources in turn) use "Greek" in the cultural sense ('someone from the eastern half of the empire, with Greek education') or in the ethnic sense ('someone with Greek - as opposed to Thracian, Illyrian, whatever - as a native language'). We know his family was geographically from Illyria, don't we?
Textually, the sentence didn't make much sense at that particular point of the article. Sounded as if the following claim (father of Constantine I) was on the same level of "belief". Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Source

We need a source for his first wife finding the cross. If I remember correctly, it wasn't his wife, but mother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.249.27.77 (talk) 06:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was his wife Helena. She’s the mother of Constantine and the Wife of Constantius chlorus PrinceofFrancia (talk) 13:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chlorus

All the expertise I have on the subject is the fact that I am Greek and as a result know Greek. However, I can safely say that Chlomus (Χλωμός) would have been pale. Chlorus means greenish. 79.103.185.240 (talk) 20:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Χλωρός means "green", but could apply to any number of hues between grass-green and egg yolk-yellow and can also mean "pale", "bilious" or "pallid", as well as "fresh", "unseasoned", "unsalted", "unripe", &c.

What exactly Byzantine Greek-language Christian historians meant by it centuries later is unclear, but it wasn't used in his lifetime or by anyone contemporary as far as we know. GPinkerton (talk) 04:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Name?

What's his actual name, now? The PLRE says it's simply Flavius Valerius Constantius, but the infobox also shows the praenomina Gaius and Marcus under the regnal name label. If he is the adoptive son of Herculius Maximian it should by rights be Marcus, but none of his coins and practically no inscriptions show it. The Pauly Wissowa adds that both he and his son appear in inscriptions with varying forenames, meaning that neither used them. Avis11 (talk) 18:17, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Constantius Chlorus/Blase

Es ist Blach wie Blachernae Church oder Palation Blachernae und nicht Chlorus viele verwechseln Kyrillische, lateinische und Grieschische B und V 2A00:10:E90:4F01:6D79:D7F6:C26:4288 (talk) 19:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Illyrian or Dacian?

Copy/paste from my talk page:

What are the sources of Constantius Chlorus, Constantin the Great and all the Roman Emperors considered of “Illyrian origin” that they are of illyrian origin? Daco-Romans Latins of East (talk) 17:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Not recognizing Odahl and Murray as WP:RS is a WP:CIR issue. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

You keep avoiding my question. What are the sources of Constantine the Great being of illyrian origin? He was Daco-Roman Daco-Romans Latins of East (talk) 18:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

If you want to change long-standing Illyrian to Dacian, the WP:BURDEN is upon you, not upon the person who reverts your change as original research. Apart from vagaries, you have shown no WP:RS for your claim.
We WP:CITE mainstream historians, not depictions upon marble columns. tgeorgescu (talk) 19:43, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Note: they got indeffed. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]