Talk:Caleb Swanigan

GA Review

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Reviewer: CycloneIsaac (talk · contribs) 00:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Reviewing later.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 00:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Lead:

• "Swanigan originally committed to Michigan State, but later decommitted and committed to Purdue University." Shorten it to just "Purdue", or add "University" to the end of "Michigan State".
  • Done

Early life:

• His birth should be mentioned somewhere early in the section.
  • Done
• Use {{convert}} for the weights and heights mentioned.
  • Pretty sure I got them all, let me know if I missed one. Used height template instead, was more intuitive.

College career:

• The 2017 section needs to be updated for the end of the NCAA tournament.
  • We could just pretend it never happened. Just kidding, I wrote it.
• Gotta add this.
  • Yup, just came out, I'll add it. Haven't read this article yet, if it doesn't mention Swanigan's adoptive father is an agent I'll see if I can find something that ties the two together.
  • You know, I bet his father cannot do agent things. I read three articles and did not see a mention of it at all. So, this is now done.

Records:

• "records for career points (1,649) and rebounds (1048)," Comma needed for second number.
  • Done

Awards and honors:

• "Swanigan was also named the National Freshman of the Week." Any idea when he was named?
  • Done
• "Swanigan joins Lonzo Ball, Frank Mason, and Josh Hart." For what?
  • Rephrased those sentences

References:

• Some of the references are missing access dates.
  • Done
• References 12 and 28 can be expanded a bit more.
  • Done, unless they moved around and I missed them

Hip hop career

That whole section about his hip hop career is complete vandalism added a month ago. It needs to be reverted. Also, that IP had a lot of questionable edits 2604:2D80:6A8D:E200:20AE:3426:686A:5C5A (talk) 21:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Natural causes?

What are "natural causes" regarding the death of a 25-year-old athlete? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Exactly my thought. No one dies from "natural causes" aka death from aging & the breakdown/malfunction of the bodies cells at 25 (unless from severe disease of course, which wouldn't be "natural causes"). JanderVK (talk) 04:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Natural causes in this context tells the reader that Caleb did not die from violence, drugs, or suicide - all unfortunately common reasons for a young person's untimely death. What we don't know is whether it was heart disease, cancer, COVID, etc. So, the exact cause was not specified.

See below for references:

Natural causes refer to internal factors (medical condition) rather than external factors like trauma, homicide, accident, suicide [1].

A death by natural causes results from an illness and its complications or an internal malfunction of the body not directly caused by external forces, other than infectious disease. For example, a person dying from complications from pneumonia, diarrheal disease or HIV/AIDS (infections), cancer, stroke or heart disease (internal body malfunctions), or sudden organ failure would most likely be listed as having died from natural causes. "Death by natural causes" is sometimes used as a euphemism for "dying of old age", which is considered problematic as a cause of death (as opposed to a specific age-related disease); there are also many non-age-related causes of "natural" death, for legal manner-of-death purposes. (See Cause of death § Aging) Buddhafinder (talk) 07:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Please indent your entries under whom you are replying to (I fixed it this time)!

Thank you for your opinions and interpretations. I do not agree. Illness in a young person can hardly be called a natural cause of death. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Since there are legitimate concerns about the phrasing "natural causes", we should report that the Allen County Coroner’s Office reported that Swanigan "died of natural causes". That way we're following the sources, giving all the information, but not putting it in Wikipedia's voice.--Cerebral726 (talk) 17:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

OK by me. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

That makes perfect sense to me. Buddhafinder (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)