Talk:Anthology (Alien Ant Farm album)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

"smooth Criminal" wasn't the first single. Movies was.

Movies was. Movies didn't really do anything for them. "Smooth criminal" hit with people right away. There are two music videos for "movies" the first one most people say was "unreleased". They say this because they didn't see it because they ignored the sang when it came out. It's a cool song and all but wasn't cool til they covered micheal jackson. Serialjoepsycho (talk) 22:00, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

References

Sources

I'm not sure why I've become so fixated on an album from my youth suddenly.

• http://www.artistdirect.com/artist/bio/alien-ant-farm/1114726
• http://www.mtv.com/bands/a/alien_ant_farm/news_feature_030710/index2.jhtml
• http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/159742-dryden-mitchell-alien-ant-farm
• http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9vc4aG2dVBIC&pg=PA60&dq=alien ant farm anthology recording&hl=en&ei=2s5DTrPDGMii8QOn_dnsBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
• http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7ctjc6UWCm4C&pg=PT24&dq=alien ant farm anthology recording&hl=en&ei=2s5DTrPDGMii8QOn_dnsBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=alien ant farm anthology recording&f=false
• http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/A/Alien_Ant_Farm/2001/08/09/742813.html

Seegoon (talk) 12:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 20:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will review this soon; my second one for you during this drive! --K. Peake 20:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Remove the recording date, as it is not sourced that the process ended that year
• Pipe "Smooth Criminal" to Smooth Criminal (Alien Ant Farm song) per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Pipe self release to Self-publishing
• "the band's debut album," → "the band's debut studio album,"
• "the band recorded" → "Alien Ant Farm started recording"
• Pipe North Hollywood, California to North Hollywood, Los Angeles
• "Described as alternative metal and nu metal," → "An alternative metal and nu metal release," for appropriate lead language
• "compared Anthology to" → "compared the album to"
• Mention Taproot as well as Linkin Park per the body
• "was released as the album's" → "was released as Anthology's"
• "in June, before" → "in June 2001, before"
• Pipe "Smooth Criminal" to Smooth Criminal (Alien Ant Farm song)
• The SnoCore tour is only sourced as happening in the US
• "The album's third single "Attitude" was" → "The third single, "Attitude", was"
• "and the album's diverse songs." → "and the songs' diversity."
• "and reached the top 40" → "while also reaching the top 40"
• "Ireland and New Zealand." → "Ireland, and New Zealand."
• "Anthology would later be" → "It would later be"
• "the UK, and" → "the United Kingdom, and" per this being the first instance the country is mentioned
• "performing well on" → "alongside performing well on"
• Pipe component charts to Billboard charts

Background and production

• "That same year," → "The same year as forming,"
• "The band self-released" → "Alien Ant Farm self-released" with the pipe
• "through their own label" → "through their own record label" with the wikilink
• "The band promoted it" → "The band promoted the album"
• Is the band's label referring to the one mentioned earlier in this section or a different one? If the latter, then please specify (it's not OR if they were signed to a certain label at the time)

Does "in an attempt to secure a deal with another record label." work better? They weren't aiming to sign to a particular label, just any label that would be interested in them. Yeepsi (talk) 14:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "they enjoyed his work" → "they themselves enjoyed his work" because otherwise it may sound like you mean the label
• "before letting him work on" → "before working with him on" per the source
• Pipe engineer to Audio engineer
• "the album at Precision Mastering" → "Anthology at Precision Mastering"

Composition

• Retitle to Composition and lyrics
• [10] should be solely before [11] after the first clause
• "soon gone. ..." → "soon gone. [...]" but shouldn't this quote be in the previous section, as it's not really about the comp? If this part is moved, then merge the para with the second one of this section due to short length.
• "of Electric Light Orchestra," → "of the Electric Light Orchestra,"
• "following a breakup." → "during a breakup." per the source
• "which had reached its" → "which has reached its"
• Pipe "Movies" to Movies (song)
• Wikilink bassline
• "the song was about" → "the song is about"
• ""Flesh and Bone" recalled" → ""Flesh and Bone" recalls"
• Pipe "Attitude" to Attitude (Alien Ant Farm song)
• Remove wikilink on Gavin Hayes
• "the band wrote." → "Alient Ant Farm wrote."
• Pipe "Smooth Criminal" to Smooth Criminal (Alien Ant Farm song) per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Pipe string arrangement to String section

Release

• Retitle to Release and promotion
• "toured the US west coast" → "toured the West Coast of the United States" per MOS:US
• Wikilink music video
• "premiered on MTV2" → "premiered via MTV2"
• "a US headliner, however," → "a US headliner; however,"
• "on the US west coast," → "of the US West Coast,"
• I am confused regarding the CD listing; is "Pink Tea" the acoustic version of "Movies" or a separate track from it? Keep as current if the former is true but if the latter is the case, then change to "of "Movies", and the" for correct connectivity
• "in the UK." → "in the United Kingdom."
• "was released as the album's" → "was released as Anthology's"
• "featured "Orange Appeal"," → "features "Orange Appeal"," unless the release was only temporarily available, then don't change
• "the UK version swapped" → "the UK version swaps" and see above for potentially no change
• "They decided to reissue" → "The band decided to reissue"
• "The CD version included" → "The CD version includes" and see earlier for potentially no change
• "the music video for "Movies"." → "the music video for the former."
• "the band returned to" → "Alien Ant Farm returned to" but can't you source the other regions here that you've mentioned in the lead?

The other regions mentioned in the lead are sourced in earlier paragraphs of this section. Yeepsi (talk) 14:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Yeepsi I was referring to the ones for the SnoCore Tour like I should've specified, but you have removed any mention of the tour from the lead now – is this your intention? --K. Peake 15:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

I did to avoid confusing all of those countries as part of the SnoCore Tour, when it was just the US. Yeepsi (talk) 15:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "The CD version included a" → "The CD version includes a" and see earlier for potentially no change
• "for "Attitude" and "Universe"." → "for the former two tracks."
• "Six of the band's crew members" → "Six of Alien Ant Farm's crew members"
• "Mitchell Had sustained" → "Mitchell had sustained"
• "and into June." → "and into June 2002."

Critical reception

• Use the [sic] template instead
• "wrote the band broke "new ground ..." → "wrote Alien Ant Farm break "new ground [...]"
• Pipe pop to Pop music
• "due to ..." → "due to [...]" per the ellipsis being added in
• "might think ..." → "might think [...]"
• "considered the band" → "considered Alien Ant Farm"
• "at every turn ..." → "at every turn [...]"
• "pomp rock gloss."" → "pomp rock gloss"." per MOS:QUOTE, with the pipe
• "added the band are" → "added that they are"
• "that just rocks."" → "that just rocks"."

Commercial performance

• Chart positions listed in the first para reads too much like a supermarket list; remove ones outside of the top 40
• Mention that it was certified platinum respectively in the countries, listing the separate certification bodies
• You should add a new sentence for the Australia sentence to avoid a run on, starting with "It further received a gold certification..."
• Pipe component charts to Billboard charts
• Pipe Active Rock to Active rock
• Pipe Mainstream Rock Songs to Mainstream Rock (chart)
• Pipe Heritage Rock to Mainstream rock
• "it peaked at number 1" → "the song peaked at number one" per MOS:NUM; write out all of the other numbers in the sentence because of this
• "2× platinum in Australia," → "double platinum in Australia by the ARIA,"
• "platinum in the UK." → "platinum in the UK by the BPI."
• "number 35 on the" → "number 35 on"
• "in the UK.[73] "Attitude" reached" → "in the UK by the BPI,[73] while "Attitude" reached"

Track listing

• Shouldn't you add the writing credit in brackets for "Smooth Criminal" since it's the only song where the writer is known?
• Pipe "Smooth Criminal" to Smooth Criminal (Alien Ant Farm song) per MOS:LINK2SECT

Personnel

• Pipe Lenny Castro to Toto (band)

Charts and certifications

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks pretty good at 28.6%!
• Neat job with the archiving, even going manual at one point!!!
• Shouldn't you add the language parameter for ref 69?
• ChartsPlus → UKChartsPlus on ref 79, citing as work/website instead

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, but this is a nice article from you per usual! --K. Peake 13:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Made the changes. Yeepsi (talk) 14:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Yeepsi ✓ Pass now, great job from you per usual and the removal of the tour from the lead is fine! --K. Peake 16:23, 22 March 2021 (UTC)