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Below are the top 25 [[WP:AFD|AfD]] discussions which are most urgently in need of attention from !voters. The urgency for each AfD is calculated based on various statistics, including current number of votes, time until closing date, number of times relisted, overall discussion length, etc. This page is updated by a [[User:Cyberbot I|bot]] roughly every 6 hours, and was last updated on 22:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC).
Below are the top 25 [[WP:AFD|AfD]] discussions which are most urgently in need of attention from !voters. The urgency for each AfD is calculated based on various statistics, including current number of votes, time until closing date, number of times relisted, overall discussion length, etc. This page is updated by a [[User:Cyberbot I|bot]] roughly every 6 hours, and was last updated on 03:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC).


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|[[#IMOCA 60 Initiative Coeur 4|IMOCA 60 Initiative Coeur 4]]||{{Time ago|20240926145632}}||0||7173||0||'''1915.06'''
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|[[#Refugee lens investing|Refugee lens investing]]||{{Time ago|20240926182459}}||1||5969||0||'''1868.93'''
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|[[#Refugee lens investing|Refugee lens investing]]||{{Time ago|20240926182459}}||1||5969||0||'''1854.79'''
|[[#Participatory Culture Foundation|Participatory Culture Foundation]]||{{Time ago|20240927183752}}||1||5939||0||'''1796.27'''
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|[[#Participatory Culture Foundation|Participatory Culture Foundation]]||{{Time ago|20240927183752}}||1||5939||0||'''1782.12'''
|[[#Chughtai Lab|Chughtai Lab]]||{{Time ago|20240927103846}}||4||5897||0||'''1619.99'''
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|[[#Chughtai Lab|Chughtai Lab]]||{{Time ago|20240927103846}}||4||5897||0||'''1605.85'''
|[[#Helaman Jeffs|Helaman Jeffs]]||{{Time ago|20240928201950}}||2||6452||0||'''1619.02'''
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|[[#Helaman Jeffs|Helaman Jeffs]]||{{Time ago|20240928201950}}||2||6452||0||'''1604.89'''
|[[#Flash Element TD |Flash Element TD (2nd nomination)]]||{{Time ago|20241001040754}}||2||6015||0||'''1451.6'''
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|[[#Flash Element TD |Flash Element TD (2nd nomination)]]||{{Time ago|20241001040754}}||2||6015||0||'''1437.46'''
|[[#Flagon and Trencher|Flagon and Trencher]]||{{Time ago|20241001140007}}||2||5878||0||'''1421.99'''
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|[[#Flagon and Trencher|Flagon and Trencher]]||{{Time ago|20241001140007}}||2||5878||0||'''1407.85'''
|[[#Ingemar Burgström|Ingemar Burgström]]||{{Time ago|20241002022555}}||2||4749||0||'''1404.73'''
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|[[#Ingemar Burgström|Ingemar Burgström]]||{{Time ago|20241002022555}}||2||4749||0||'''1390.59'''
|[[#Vanessa Grellet|Vanessa Grellet]]||{{Time ago|20241002163903}}||2||11187||0||'''1327.31'''
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|[[#Estonian exonyms|Estonian exonyms]]||{{Time ago|20241002010303}}||3||7627||0||'''1324.7'''
|[[#St Austell Golf Club|St Austell Golf Club]]||{{Time ago|20241005214907}}||0||4130||0||'''1280.76'''
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|[[#Vanessa Grellet|Vanessa Grellet]]||{{Time ago|20241002163903}}||2||11187||0||'''1313.16'''
|[[#Freestyle fixed gear|Freestyle fixed gear]]||{{Time ago|20241005053518}}||1||4163||0||'''1279.23'''
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|[[#St Austell Golf Club|St Austell Golf Club]]||{{Time ago|20241005214907}}||0||4130||0||'''1266.61'''
|[[#Pete Wilson (wrestler) |Pete Wilson (wrestler) (2nd nomination)]]||{{Time ago|20241006112704}}||0||4873||0||'''1239.81'''
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|[[#Freestyle fixed gear|Freestyle fixed gear]]||{{Time ago|20241005053518}}||1||4163||0||'''1265.1'''
|[[#Absolute (Aion album)|Absolute (Aion album)]]||{{Time ago|20241005130404}}||1||5960||0||'''1236.65'''
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|[[#18 (British Board of Film Classification) |18 (British Board of Film Classification) (2nd nomination)]]||{{Time ago|20241003212146}}||2||9262||0||'''1241.61'''
|[[#Romansh exonyms|Romansh exonyms]]||{{Time ago|20241004150953}}||2||5134||0||'''1202.7'''
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|[[#Pete Wilson (wrestler) |Pete Wilson (wrestler) (2nd nomination)]]||{{Time ago|20241006112704}}||0||4873||0||'''1225.67'''
|[[#Nightmare Theater|Nightmare Theater]]||{{Time ago|20241004164556}}||2||8579||0||'''1197.85'''
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|[[#Absolute (Aion album)|Absolute (Aion album)]]||{{Time ago|20241005130404}}||1||5960||0||'''1222.52'''
|[[#Gregory Wings|Gregory Wings]]||{{Time ago|20241004202255}}||2||7551||0||'''1186.86'''
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|[[#Romansh exonyms|Romansh exonyms]]||{{Time ago|20241004150953}}||2||4988||0||'''1208.55'''
|[[#Otherways|Otherways]]||{{Time ago|20241006160707}}||1||3225||0||'''1175.8'''
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|[[#Nightmare Theater|Nightmare Theater]]||{{Time ago|20241004164556}}||2||8579||0||'''1183.71'''
|[[#Planet Half-Life|Planet Half-Life]]||{{Time ago|20241004195401}}||3||4342||0||'''1158.47'''
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|[[#Gregory Wings|Gregory Wings]]||{{Time ago|20241004202255}}||2||7551||0||'''1172.73'''
|[[#Yolette Lévy|Yolette Lévy]]||{{Time ago|20241003211808}}||4||13021||0||'''1141.37'''
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|[[#Otherways|Otherways]]||{{Time ago|20241006160707}}||1||3225||0||'''1161.66'''
|[[#Northwest India (pre-1947)|Northwest India (pre-1947)]]||{{Time ago|20241006082844}}||2||4596||0||'''1098.71'''
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|[[#Planet Half-Life|Planet Half-Life]]||{{Time ago|20241004195401}}||3||4342||0||'''1144.32'''
|[[#Nic Barlage|Nic Barlage]]||{{Time ago|20241004140226}}||4||15254||0||'''1091.02'''
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|[[#Yolette Lévy|Yolette Lévy]]||{{Time ago|20241003211808}}||4||13021||0||'''1127.22'''
|[[#Finnish exonyms|Finnish exonyms]]||{{Time ago|20241005233703}}||2||10398||0||'''1090.14'''
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|[[#Northwest India (pre-1947)|Northwest India (pre-1947)]]||{{Time ago|20241006082844}}||2||4596||0||'''1084.57'''
|[[#Battle of Khatu Shyamji|Battle of Khatu Shyamji]]||{{Time ago|20241008010015}}||1||2885||0||'''1076.89'''
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|[[#Nic Barlage|Nic Barlage]]||{{Time ago|20241004140226}}||4||15254||0||'''1076.88'''
|[[#Krishna Shroff|Krishna Shroff]]||{{Time ago|20241006190600}}||2||3670||0||'''1066.76'''
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|[[#Finnish exonyms|Finnish exonyms]]||{{Time ago|20241005233703}}||2||10398||0||'''1076'''
|[[#Tim Harries|Tim Harries]]||{{Time ago|20241006103842}}||3||4149||0||'''1042.31'''
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Below are the top 25 AfD discussions which are most urgently in need of attention from !voters. The urgency for each AfD is calculated based on various statistics, including current number of votes, time until closing date, number of times relisted, overall discussion length, etc. This page is updated by a bot roughly every 6 hours, and was last updated on 03:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC).

AfD Time to close Votes Size (bytes) Relists Score
Benares brass 56 days ago 3 6760 0 1907.63
Refugee lens investing 53 days ago 1 5969 0 1868.93
Participatory Culture Foundation 52 days ago 1 5939 0 1796.27
Chughtai Lab 53 days ago 4 5897 0 1619.99
Helaman Jeffs 51 days ago 2 6452 0 1619.02
Flash Element TD (2nd nomination) 49 days ago 2 6015 0 1451.6
Flagon and Trencher 49 days ago 2 5878 0 1421.99
Ingemar Burgström 48 days ago 2 4749 0 1404.73
Vanessa Grellet 47 days ago 2 11187 0 1327.31
St Austell Golf Club 44 days ago 0 4130 0 1280.76
Freestyle fixed gear 45 days ago 1 4163 0 1279.23
Pete Wilson (wrestler) (2nd nomination) 44 days ago 0 4873 0 1239.81
Absolute (Aion album) 45 days ago 1 5960 0 1236.65
Romansh exonyms 45 days ago 2 5134 0 1202.7
Nightmare Theater 45 days ago 2 8579 0 1197.85
Gregory Wings 45 days ago 2 7551 0 1186.86
Otherways 43 days ago 1 3225 0 1175.8
Planet Half-Life 45 days ago 3 4342 0 1158.47
Yolette Lévy 46 days ago 4 13021 0 1141.37
Northwest India (pre-1947) 44 days ago 2 4596 0 1098.71
Nic Barlage 46 days ago 4 15254 0 1091.02
Finnish exonyms 44 days ago 2 10398 0 1090.14
Battle of Khatu Shyamji 42 days ago 1 2885 0 1076.89
Krishna Shroff 43 days ago 2 3670 0 1066.76
Tim Harries 44 days ago 3 4149 0 1042.31
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The result was no consensus‎. This discussion has had 4 relistings and I still don't see a consensus here. Editors interested in pursuing a Merge can discuss this option on the article talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 02:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Benares brass (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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"Benares brass" isn't a thing; it's just brass items made/sold in Varanasi. Just like there isn't a page for "Benares trinkets", there doesn't need to be one for Benares brass. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 03:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I would agree that 'Benares brass' isn't a thing. At least, not in the metallurgical sense, as a particular brass alloy. I may be wrong - place-specific alloys do sometimes turn up, owing to oddities of local material supply.
But I'm not convinced that 'brass and brasswork of Benares' isn't a thing, just based on the sources already attached to the article. Is brass manufacture a significant and distinctive industry specific to Benares? Now that's certainly a thing, and there are many such locations where particular forms of metalworking are both distinct (the place is significant to the craft of brassworking) and locally economically important (brass working is significant to the place). On my own doorstep, an article on 17th to 19th century brassworking around Bristol and the Avon valley would be very welcome. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Merge with Varanasi: Borderline notable at best, and would be much more suitable as part of the city's article per WP:NOPAGE, similar to how Moradabad does not have a separate page for its highly recognized brass industry. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:54, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep I found these sources on Google Books with somewhat good coverage of it [1] [2] [3] Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 09:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    The first source only contains trivial coverage and the other two links are to the same source. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 22:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge with Varanasi as suggested. There’s more context there. This page just doesn’t have significant coverage for a free-standing article. Bearian (talk) 02:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Please note that this is a re-closure of this nomination, based on a review requested at my talk page.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:33, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Refugee lens investing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of notability under GNG or SNG. A vague term invented by a company for something that it does. The references have a bit on the company (most of them just passing along self-published material) and the leader, but there is no coverage much less the required in-depth coverage on what this actual is. As result the article is just vague arm waving and related platitude about refugees without even cover covering the putative topic North8000 (talk) 18:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment Whats your plan to get it delete. There is quite heavy block of academic references on it. I reviwed it and thought the chances of deletion were slim. scope_creepTalk 20:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. plicit 14:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Participatory Culture Foundation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While there's some coverage in connection with their powering of AO3, it's not ORG level and I don't see where it merits mention at Archive of Our Own since the one source isn't great. Opted against PROD due to its tenure, but this is a borderline A7 with no sourcing found to improve it. Star Mississippi 18:37, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Comment I can't access ProQuest, but I'll assume those are decent coverages. My library card might allow me access, I might just boot up their website and look... Otherwise, mentioned here [4], but that's not enough for notability. There's some coverage in Gscholar linked in the deletion template, but these are mentions only. Oaktree b (talk) 21:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    @Oaktree b, if you log in to Wikipedia Library first, then launch ProQuest from that page, you should have the same access. Cielquiparle (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Chughtai Lab (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP - collaborations, partnerships coverage is not useful per WP:CORPTRIV. Gheus (talk) 10:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep Very notable and prominent lab in Pakistan. Also it already has 3 existing references from major newspapers of Pakistan. AfD forum is not for clean up. Frankly, getting tired of seeing this 'dismissive attitude' towards many legitimate references as 'promotional'...Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
    Here's the analysis of those three references:
    1. It is about a corporate partnership, marked as "BR Web Desk", no proper byline. Comes under WP:CORPTRIV.
    2. Not directly about the company, but about a vaccine. Full of quotes, Chughtai said this and that.
    3. Again, MOU, a press release style article with no proper byline. Comes under WP:CORPTRIV. Gheus (talk) 22:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep: It seems notable enough as the lab was also embroiled in a sort of a political controversy (see: Dawn). Mister Banker (talk) 21:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete: The lab is prominent, but we rely on NORG to determine which articles to keep, but it doesn’t seem to be the case here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: Per nom. While a major lab has not much notability for an article. Wikibear47 (talk) 06:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 14:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Helaman Jeffs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of standalone notability. Hardly any coverage of the subject; notability is not inherited. (NPP action) C F A 💬 20:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Keep Multiple references (already found on the article) are stating that he is claiming to be the current head of the FLDS church, I will hunt down some more sources. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 12:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

That doesn't really matter. There needs be significant coverage in independent, reliable sources in order to meet WP:NBASIC. C F A 💬 14:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Draftify -- I feel like draftifying this until further notability is presented later on is suitable, considering he is the son of a cult leader so there is probably something likely to come up in the future and if these sources are presented by User:Thief-River-Faller then we could improve on the article. 79lives (talk) 17:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - WP:INVALIDBIO So far, we only know he's a presumed possible heir to his imprisoned father. And possibly being used to carry out his father's wishes. He may or may not be viewed by others as his father's heir as a cult leader, but Wikipedia does not predict or presume the future. — Maile (talk) 01:02, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 11:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Flash Element TD (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet WP:GNG. The largest review I found is still relatively tiny. There is simply insufficient SIGCOV to justify an article at all, with the previous AfD citing mere announcements. What was good enough for 2011 is no longer good enough for 2024. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 04:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment: The developer of this game is listed as a co-founder of Kixeye. IgelRM (talk) 19:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep. I found a little more coverage of the game (here and here), which, while not exactly stellar, is sufficient to keep the article alongside the other sources. Cortador (talk) 10:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep. WP:NOTTEMPORARY, what was good enough for 2011 is still good enough, unless there's a very specific guideline change that negates previous arguments. -Fangz (talk)
    • Also I found this academic article discussing the game. [5] and this Masters Thesis [6] -Fangz (talk)

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  • Keep, Fangz is right; getting discussed by academics and featuring so heavily (extended text about the game, and a statement that it was one of two games that inspired the investigation) in an MSc elevates it beyond run-of-the-mill game, and gives notability. Elemimele (talk) 11:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
    To be clear, I was saying that the 2011 discussion was not up to 2024 standards, not that the article's notability suddenly "disappeared".
    To call the new sources trivial mentions is putting it lightly, I simply don't agree it stacks up. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 08:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 13:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, only mentions and brief descriptions (for example, on ProQuest). toweli (talk) 14:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete: I have to agree with the nom. The sources don't appear to be reliable and keeping this article based on the provided coverage doesn't make sense to me. Clearly fails GNG. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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The Herald, Where are the newly found sources? Both @Toweli: and I objected to keeping the article based on the coverage provided on 24 September, as it’s nowhere near reliable.Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:17, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus‎. plicit 13:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. Only sources I could find were 2 directory listings in Google books. LibStar (talk) 02:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep, there's 146 mentions in Swedish newspaper archives, of which a lot seem like they might contain sigcov. We need someone with access to verify their content though. AlexandraAVX (talk) 19:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment The article doesn't show significant independent coverage that meets WP:GNG. Losing in the first round of the Olympics and compiling an 8-7 record as a pro boxer means he also fails WP:NOLY and WP:NBOX. I can't comment on what coverage might exist in Swedish, so I am not voting as this time. Papaursa (talk) 00:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep, appears very likely notable per AlexandraAVX. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Which sources in Alexandra's search meet significant coverage for WP:BIO? LibStar (talk) 04:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    They are paywalled – however, given that we know that over 140 pieces of coverage do exist, someone would need to look at them to determine otherwise that he's not notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. plicit 03:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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No significant coverage in secondary, independent sources outside of all the crypto churnalism. Accomplished businesswoman and executive, but there's nothing much of note (awards, research, influence, founding of a company). Mooonswimmer 16:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for your feedback.
I am quite surprised by this outcome, all the sources were found on Google, the most important ones in Google News. And I just found a new source on Forbes: https://www.forbes.fr/technologie/etat-des-lieux-des-nft-au-paris-blockchain-week-summit
Vanessa Grellet has appeared in 3 notable French media: La Tribune, BFM Business, and Le Monde Informatique, as well as in the Wall Street Journal and Forbes. She has also contributed to a paper for the World Economic Forum. I thought that these were notable primary and secondary independent sources. Your help would be appreciated in order to improve the article. Crystalcoin (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
The Forbes source you linked to has only one mention of Vanessa Grellet. Translated to English:
Between pure speculation and truly disruptive technology, NFTs appeal to a wide range of profiles. The “NFT Panel: How NFT funds are taking advantage of an emerging market” conference presented how NFT funds are approaching this market. Renowned panelists Julien Bouteloup, founder Blackpool Finance, James WO, CEO-founder DFG, Drew Austin, Redbeard Ventures and Vanessa Grellet, Coinfound explained their interest in these technologies.
Although it's a generally reliable source when the articles are written by Forbes staff, that is far from significant coverage, which is necessary to demonstrate the notability of a subject. It's a passing mention. It doesn't develop on why Grellet is a renowned panelist. Do you have any sources covering her or her work in-depth? That's what would help demonstrate that she is indeed notable. We'd need at least two or three sources. Mooonswimmer 22:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your answer. Vanessa Grellet contributed to a World Economic Forum paper in 2021.
I don't think this organization would have invited her if she wasn't a renowned panelist.
https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Digital_Currency_Governance_Consortium_2021.pdf
She has two other interviews in the main economical medias in France: in La Tribune (https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/banques-finance/les-bourses-traditionnelles-vont-s-interesser-aux-crypto-actifs-et-vice-versa-vanessa-grellet-consensys-817978.html) and a video one at the Paris Blockchain Week with BFM TV (https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/replay-emissions/tech-and-co/vanessa-grellet-coinfund-coinfund-est-un-fonds-d-investissement-specialise-dans-le-web3-12-04_VN-202204120691.html), one of the biggest blockchain events in Europe. Those are not PR for sure, I can agree that the one on Le Monde Informatique looks more like a PR (https://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-aglae-ventures-va-lancer-un-fonds-de-100-meteuro-dedie-au-web3-87642.html).
She is also mentioned in The Wall Street Journal :
https://www.wsj.com/articles/arche-capital-to-raise-100-million-debut-fund-amid-crypto-comeback-b7713428 Crystalcoin (talk) 09:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Source 2 is a RS, but it's an interview with this person where they give advice on financial subjects. Rest of the sourcing is PR items for this or that financial venture. Oaktree b (talk) 01:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: Just not enough coverage to show notability. A French Gsearch limited to .fr sites [15] only brings up PR items. There isn't enough to show notability. She's mentioned here [16], but it's only a brief paragraph discussing other things. Oaktree b (talk) 01:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
    French wiki article has been tagged for promotion and tagged for notability concerns, but they let it run for a year before discussing deletion (which is, strange, but their house, their rules). Sources in the French article are largely these PR items or similar to those used in the En wiki article. I do find it odd that there are no Fr sources used on the Fr wiki article, about a person from France. Oaktree b (talk) 01:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
    Sorry but what you are saying is not true.
    In the French Google search, the first link is her profile on the French government's public investment bank called BPI (Banque Publique d'Investissement): https://big.bpifrance.fr/fr/speaker/65009755-7355-ef11-991a-6045bd954cb8/vanessa-grellet
    On page 2, there is also on page an official paper from the French Ministry of Economy in collaboration with the French Tech mentioning Vanessa Grellet: https://www.tresor.economie.gouv.fr/Articles/71361bf0-8d26-443c-9572-5c53955c1aa9/files/564c4897-e4b9-44f1-938a-93d7e3b016f2
    Again, why would the French Government ask a non-relevant person to talk about a specific subject? Crystalcoin (talk) 09:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
    We need sources that talk about her; she is important but you need sourcing. Neither of these is about her, they just confirm she appeared at xyz event. Oaktree b (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
    Thank you for your answer, I've found a few reliable sources like Forbes and the Financial Times and I have edited the article. Let me know if you see any other improvement. Crystalcoin (talk) 17:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you asilvering,
Vanessa Grellet is an active actor in the sphere of crypto.
She has been interviewed by major economical media and she is an experienced panelist.
You will find in the sources:
- is in the top 100 most influential people in crypto in 2022, Cointelegraph
- has been interviewed by top French economical media: BFM Business and La Tribune
- is top speaker at blockchain conferences: Consensus and Paris Blockchain Week Summit, Forbes
- founded her own company, The Wall Street Journal, after managing the crypto fund of the world's "new" richest man, Financial Times
- co-founded with other S&P 500 companies the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance, now a board member
- has collaborated with the World Economic Forum and The Massachusetts Institute of Technology Crystalcoin (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete. An apparently WP:PROMO bio from a single-purpose account. The sources do not support notability under WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. Most are interviews (or other primary sources like official bios and event agendas) or trivial mentions. CoinTelegraph is of questionable reliablity per WP:RSN and this article is WP:SIGCOV of Consensys, not Grellet. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. I see no objection to the nomination. Owen× 18:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Fails the general notability guideline. None of the sources in the article are reliable or have significant coverage of the subject, and a quick look for more did not turn up anything promising. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:49, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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    Would it be a good idea to increase the golf club articles on wikipedia so they match other sports like football? I know this is not the most notible example but it is the club I know most about. LeonKnight (talk) 19:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
    Comment: some rule establishing equity along the lines of Title IX between the soccer and other sports would be nice to have, but IMHO another direction is beneficial (trimming the soccer). Викидим (talk) 05:46, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Comment if newspapers circulating in Cornwall cover it it would be notable in mid Cornwall but that might not be enough for general notability. Perhaps a summary paragraph in St Austell would be enough.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 04:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. plicit 14:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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I don't think this article in its current state meets WP:NSPORT. Yes we have fixed-gear bicycle, as well as fixed gear racing, but it doesn't seem clear what this one is all about. As they say, two heads are better than one, and here I am to find the community's assessment. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I believe the sport of freestyle fixed gear meets notability. Aside from being featured in Hollywood motion pictures (cited), the very first cycling trick done on film was done on a fixed gear bicycle (this is cited in the article). A fixed gear bike was used in the X Games (in 2001 Trevor Meyer) the premier showcase of Extreme sport. Fixed-gear bicycle article doesn't contain the details or background on the community of people doing tricks on fixed gear bikes. Racing on a fixed gear isn't really related to freestyle (tricks) on a fixed gear; similar to how speed skating isn't related to figure skating. FixedGearFreeStyle (talk) 23:59, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep - Appears to meet WP:GNG from a quick look at the cited sources. It doesn't seem like the organization we have now for the various bike sports is great; we could consider merging this in to Freestyle BMX, but I'm not sure how well it would fit there. Suriname0 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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No notable wrestler. Just worked on an independent level. The article has a few sources, non of them focusing on him, just WP:ROUTINE results. Looking for sources, he only has passing mentions on a few events. 1 . I don't understand how a 2006's version of the article was voted as keep. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete. None of the coverage in the article (databases and routine coverage of match results) or what I could find with a basic Google search (what's in the article & false positives) support notability. We need more for a BLP. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete all‎ except Human Griefman, which was redirected to Aion (band) as an AtD. Daniel (talk) 05:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Five articles about albums not shown to pass WP:NALBUM. Back in the day, Wikipedia's approach to album notability was to extend an automatic inclusion freebie to any album recorded by a notable artist, regardless of its sourcing or lack thereof, in the service of completionist directoryism -- but that's long since been kiboshed, and albums are now independently notable only if they can be shown to pass WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about the album. But four of these five articles are completely unreferenced, and one is referenced solely to a single unreliable source directory listing that isn't support for notability.
It also warrants note that these were all briefly redirected to the band a year and a half ago for lack of independent sourcing, but that was reverted within 24 hours with no actual explanation provided of what the problem with redirecting them was, and they've continued to stand as unreferenced articles ever since, without ever having a whit of GNG-worthy sourcing added to any of them. Bearcat (talk) 13:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Redirect Human Griefman to the band, the others fail WP:NALBUM, so delete them all for having generic titles. If a user is able to put Aion in brackets to disambiguate, they are also able to search directly for Aion. Nothing in the page history worth preserving, as the track lists are found on external websites too. Geschichte (talk) 05:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus‎. Though there is evidently consensus for trimming the list. asilvering (talk) 01:41, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Indiscriminate unreferenced list of proper names, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Other such articles have recently been deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French exonyms. toweli (talk) 15:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete per WP:NOTDICT. Azuredivay (talk) 10:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep. There is a definition of exonyms given by the UN that means that such lists are not indiscriminate, but instead pass WP:LISTCRITERIA. By all means cull items that should not be there (such as toponyms that are the mere result of orthographic rules in different languages). But such lists themselves are encyclopedic. As for appealing to recent rulings, what's actually happened is that there has been a huge bunch of individual nominations, some closed very quickly, without any notification placed on the page most people interested in the topic would see: Talk:Endonym and exonym.OsFish (talk) 08:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    But what makes this specific list wiki-notable? Which reliable sources have provided significant coverage of the topic of Romansch exonyms? I'm not aware of any policy that would presume automatic notability for lists of exonyms. There have been attempts to group exonym articles into one AfD nomination: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of names of European cities in different languages and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afrikaans exonyms. They failed due to the large amount of articles being considered, resulting in no consensus (and some of the articles, such as Chinese exonyms, seem to be notable, due to having been discussed in sources). So, I couldn't have bundled many nominations together, and instead opted for an individual approach. Admittedly, I hadn't considered posting on Talk:Endonym and exonym, fair enough. And I also could've explained my approach, and the reasons for it, in the nominations. toweli (talk) 09:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    That a class is well defined is not obviously sufficient. —Tamfang (talk) 01:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Trim: A few names in the list are evidently not cognate to the respective endonyms, and I'd preserve these. Otherwise, delete as trivial; each language adapts foreign words to its own phonology and orthography, okay, we get it. —Tamfang (talk) 23:58, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. Now that the AfD is closed, I renamed the page as suggested, to distinguish it from the Indiana TV show of the same name. Owen× 12:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Fairly new article about a non-notable TV show; created by a new editor. No sources; no formatting. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

This was one of Utah's longest running television shows and was very popular. I will be updating sources. As for formatting I will learn and improve the page. Intergalacticlanguage (talk) 17:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Why wasn’t this drafted so that the creator can be helped, instead of having to defend the page at an Afd, which is pretty stressful? Draft, please, if the creator and other users agree, speedy-draft, if such a thing exists. I don’t think that nominating a new page 20 minutes after it was created was the best approach. ’Not ready for Main space”, sure but explain it and draftify is, if the creator is a newcomer/apparently not very experienced contributor, the most constructive path imv. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Formatted the page roughly. The claim that it was the longest show in Utah and coverage might be enough to Keep this. If not, redirect and merge (in)to KTVX#History please. Very opposed to deletion.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Please note that the Utah TV show in this article is entirely distinct from the Indiana TV show of the same name starring Sammy Terry. The Sammy Terry character was on Indiana TV from 1962 to 1989, occasionally thereafter, continuously makes personal appearances, and still produces web content; Sammy Terry has plenty of reliable sources (print news and at least one book), far beyond what the article currently references. If this article survives, it should be moved to something like Nightmare Theater (Utah), with Nightmare Theater being a redirect to Sammy Terry or a disambiguation page. Vadder (talk) 23:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
    • I would agree that, even if enough sourcing demonstrating notability could be found, the Utah show is not the primary topic. The Indiana show has much more material to work with. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 15:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
      I did the initial page, and I believe Nightmare Theater (Utah) would be the proper title. This would avoid confusion with all the other Nightmare Theater and Theatres out there. While the show was broadcast on a Salt Lake City station, it was received statewide. Intergalacticlanguage (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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Three shows are mentioned as notable on the KCPX (KTVX) page. Hotel Balderdash has its own page. The other two are Fireman Frank and Nightmare Theater. Intergalacticlanguage (talk) 23:04, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete‎.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Promo UPE article. Refs are paid for PR, non-bylined content and promo articles. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 20:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

@Gwatakwata:@Colapeninsula: Can you give me two other sources that prove he is notable. The LA Weekly coverage is a good WP:SECONDARY but it is single reference and is likely only seen a WP:OR. WP:BLP which states "Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources" means must have good sources. Another two and I close this. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 10:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Comment/question It looks to me like the TimesLive and Sunday World articles are substantial. From what I can learn on the sites themselves, both seem to have suitable stature in their markets. User:scope_creep, do you have information that would lead us to conclude that these are not reliable sources? Thanks. Lamona (talk) 05:34, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
The TimesLive one looks like an interview containing several quotes by him, copied verbatim, which make the majority of the article along with an image supplied by him. The Sundayworld is another similar type of thing. They have used an image of him from instagram. It may better but I don't know, hence this Afd. They dont seem particularly independent. scope_creepTalk 09:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Forensics since a simple incision seems not to be enough. We have & found:
Simple, typical, unexceptional announcements of a new hip hop release in a hip hop website, such as this in The Source, e.g. "new single and album are available on all digital streaming platforms. Check out latest single below," etc; the LA Weekly reproducing here a press release put together by our subject's PR; TshisAlive, the promotional branch of the South African Sunday Times putting out advertorials about every little thing concerning their artist, e.g. here about a beef with Ticketpro, here about philanthropy plans, etc; a lot of items about the one truly notable event in our subject's career, i.e. the "Burna Boy debacle," e.g. here, all doused by a strong sprinkle of promotion; assorted dead links; and that's it. Try as we graciously might, there is no there there. -The Gnome (talk) 13:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was 'soft delete'‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC) It has been brought to my attention that there was a previous PROD and this was therefore not eligible for soft delete. My apologies, I neglected to check the talk page before choosing that option. Changing result to just plain old delete. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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A quick google search reveals that this term is used for many things, meaning I couldn't discern if it even deserved to be the primary topic. Intriguingly, most of the sources online were only mentioning it as if it were real, which compromises their usage. Regardless, this shoddy award doesn't meet the general notability guideline as it hasn't been covered by 3 reliable sources. Tavantius (talk) 16:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Finding sources is difficult due to common name, but various searches I did failed to find anything meeting WP:ORGCRIT. Sources on the current page also fall short. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. plicit 14:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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Not verifiable and doesn't appear notable. Unsure if it is different from Gamespy's other Planet Network websites, maybe merge to GameSpy. IgelRM (talk) 19:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Weak keep Sources found here, here, here and here. Due to the age of the site, they all appear to be entirely WP:OFFLINE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 20:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
    Good searching, although these look like web directory entries. IgelRM (talk) 19:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep Here's another source [18]McYeee (talk) 03:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
    For context, this is from Kyle Orland's blog. I don't think commenting on the skeptical article is significant coverage of the website. IgelRM (talk) 19:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep - Additional sources: Strana Igr: [19], PC PowerPlay: [20], PC Accelerator: [21]. I think there's enough of these write-ups now that the article passes GNG. --Mika1h (talk) 18:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
    @Mika1h, can you link the original locations of those articles, for convenience? IA is down right now. -- asilvering (talk) 04:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
    What do you mean "original locations", I don't have any other links. You can see the issue and page numbers from the URLs. Strana Igr 2007-17-242/page/136, PC PowerPlay 041-1999-10/page/n121, PC Accelerator 06Feb1999/page/n115 --Mika1h (talk) 09:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. On balance, the Delete views carried more P&G weight than the Keeps, the latter mostly relying on the unproven assertion about the existence of secondary SIGCOV sources. However, after three weeks, consensus failed to materialize. Feel free to renominate in three months. Owen× 12:51, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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Biography of a smalltown municipal councillor and activist, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing notability criteria for local politicians or activists. As always, neither city councillors nor activists are automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to show WP:GNG-worthy coverage and analysis about their work to validate its significance — the notability test at the WP:NPOL #2 level for local politicians hinges on the depth and range of reliable source coverage, not on merely verifying that she existed.
But 16 of the 20 footnotes here are directly affiliated primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and of the just four hits that come from real GNG-worthy media, two are just death reportage from the local media in her hometown; one is just a short blurb about her winning a minor award that isn't highly notable enough to clinch an instant "she's notable because she won this award" freebie all by itself for a person who's otherwise this poorly sourced; and the last one doesn't mention her name at all, and is here solely to verify via her absence from it that she didn't win a city council seat in the election that it's "sourcing", and thus isn't a demonstration of her notability. (And meanwhile, all of the city council elections she did win are supported by the primary sourcing rather than GNG-worthy analysis about her work on the council.)
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced much, much better than this. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Weak Delete - Bearcat makes a good case for deletion here. Being on the board of UQAT is not notable, most of the sources are from the applicant's death. However, while Deletion is not cleanup, if sources could be found that talk about her as the first Haitian city councilor of Val d'Or, maybe that would be something toward notability, but otherwise it doesn't seem to meet the guidelines of WP:NPOL. Bkissin (talk) 20:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep: She was an important union player, pushing for women's rights.--Ipigott (talk) 16:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
And what sourcing establishes the permanent significance of her work as a union organizer, considering that her union work is referenced entirely to the primary sourcing here? Bearcat (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
How about this for a start? I expect we could find much more about her union activities in support of women if we had better access to the French-language Quebec press.--Ipigott (talk) 17:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
We need a lot more than just one source to establish notability on that basis, especially when that one source is just her obituary from the local television station, where coverage of the deaths of local figures is merely expected — we would need to see evidence of her being widely recognized as a union organizer beyond just her own city, which is still lacking. Also, the French-language Quebec press googles just the same as English-language press does, so we don't lack that kind of access at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep: I added sources from radio Canada, and also found out that a beer was named after her after her death to honour her community enngagement. Her role as president of the STENOQ trade union for teachers also appears in a 1996 history book about the region Histoire de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue published by the Institut Québécois de Recherche sur la Culture. Nattes à chat (talk)
The article is still referenced very overwhelmingly to primary sources rather than reliable ones that count as support for notability, having a beer named after them isn't a reason why a person would get a Wikipedia article in and of itself, and local history books don't secure international notability all by themselves if purely local coverage is all the person has. Bearcat (talk) 17:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep per my understanding of WP:NPOSSIBLE which says Notability requires only that suitable independent, reliable sources exist in the real world; it does not require their immediate presence or citation in an article.. She is mentioned in Histoire de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue, though to what degree I cannot say due to lack of access on my part. There is an award named after her, here is a source stating she was named to the Board of Directors Université du Québec en Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Page 16 of this source details her accomplishments, the awards she won in life, and the award named after her. This source substantiates her status as having won an award. This source describes her winning the Alexina Croteau award as well as speaking of her accomplishments including being President of a Union and that she was the coordinator of the World March of Women in Vallée-de-l’Or. There is also this source which was published years after her death and is described as a regional and independent socio-cultural newspaper whose mission is to provide information on cultural life and social and political issues in Abitibi-Témiscamingue. Considering the existence of an award named after her, a resolution mentioning setting her name aside for future usage, and her status on the Board of Directors for Université du Québec en Abitibi-Temiscamingue and her involvement in the World March of Women, I find it probable to believe that there are sources in Quebec newspapers that we might not have access to. --Brocade River Poems (She/They) 01:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Primary sources do not support notability. Having an award named after her is not an inclusion-clinching notability claim for a person if your source for that is the self-published website of the award rather than third-party media coverage about the distinction; winning a minor local or regional award is not an inclusion-clinching notability claim for a person if your source for that is content self-published by that award rather than third-party media coverage about the distinction; resolutions mentioning her from the city government are not notability-clinching notability claims for a person if your source for that is the self-published website of the city government rather than third-party media coverage about the distinction; and on and so forth. Nothing is ever an article-clinching notability clain until it causes WP:GNG-worthy third-party media coverage to be generated about it in sources independent of the statement, and "locally important to a small city" (a thing which every single city councillor who ever existed at all could always claim) is not enough of a reason why a small-town city councillor would be exempted from having to pass GNG on proper GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about her work in real media.
(And just for the record, Val-d'Or's GNG-worthy newspaper is the Citoyen, not whatever the hell "L'Indice bohémien" is.) Bearcat (talk) 00:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
For the record, L'Indice bohémien L'Indice bohémien est un journal culturel régional et indépendant qui a pour mission d'informer les habitants de la région sur l'actualité artistique et culturelle de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue. En parlant des gens du milieu culturel de la région, L'Indice bohémien veut contribuer à la professionnalisation des artistes, au rayonnement de ceux-ci partout en région et à l'extérieur, ainsi que soutenir la promotion générale de l'ensemble du milieu culturel de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue.
They also have an editorial board. Per Wikipedia:Tiers_of_reliability#Other_generally_reliable_news_sourcesTrade publications and Regional and local news are generally reliable sources. L'Indice bohémien is an independent regional publication that focuses on artistic and cultural news. Among their listed partners are the Conseil de la culture de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue, and Ministère de la Culture et des Communications.
Just because we don't have access to the sources don't mean they don't exist. There is a strong probability that events, awards, etc. were covered in newspaper publication. Notability requires only that suitable independent, reliable sources exist in the real world; it does not require their immediate presence or citation in an article
Again, she is mentioned in an academic history book. A regional independent newspaper which you've randomly asserted isn't reliable, a source that says she was responsible for coordinating an event, she was the president of a Trade Union, there is an award name after her, a proposal in a resolution to set her name aside for future use, and she also won multiple awards in her lifetime. The probability that some news coverage we do not have access to does is exist is more likely than not. Brocade River Poems (She/They) 23:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Bearcat has summed up well. True - there may be scources out there we don't have access to. There may not. If we start working on the basis of "there might be an RS out there somewhere" being good enough we will have lost the plot. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 08:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect‎ to Northwest India#Ancient era as a broadly supported ATD. Owen× 18:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Article about a non topic, consisting of snippets of information we already cover properly and in depth in other articles. Mccapra (talk) 08:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Draftify or delete if not improved: The article is extremely sparse at present and everything there is already covered in other articles. But the historical-cultural idea of "northwest India" (as opposed to specifically the Indus Valley, Punjab, etc.) does seem to have some scholarly attention, at least from outsiders: [22], [23]. If the article weren't fairly new, I would be a firm delete, but I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt for now. But the article as it is isn't ready for mainspace. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Changing my position to redirect to Northwest India#Ancient era as suggested by author. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment As the author of the article, I don't have much to add to it or to voice on its fate. Some options might be to merge the contents into Northwestern South Asia, to redirect to Northwest India#Ancient era, or if seen as necessary, to create a new article called 'Northwestern Indian subcontinent' and then include the post-1947 history of the region as well into that article. GreekApple123 (talk) 16:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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  • Comment I don’t support a redirect as this isn’t a plausible search term, and there’s nothing to merge because the content in this article duplicates content we already have in the relevant articles. This article is entirely redundant. Mccapra (talk) 17:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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OPPOSE Don't do it. 58.152.63.206 (talk) 09:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete‎. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments were successfully refuted and on the topic of reliable sources providing significant coverage, consensus is that the current and proposed sources don't. I am happy to restore this to draft upon any request at my user talk page, if anyone wishes to continue working on it in draftspace. Daniel (talk) 09:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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I don't think that this victim of refbombing is notable. All refs seem to be run-of -the mill stuff which are fundamenbtally about his jobs rather than about him. TheLongTone (talk) 14:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

@BeFriendlyGoodSir: that's an WP:OTHER argument which is roundly and rightfully ignored by experienced editors and admins in AfDs. The best way to defend this article would be to provide quotes demonstrating significant coverage of this article subject from high-quality sources. Usually WP:THREE would be ideal. Left guide (talk) 04:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Fair enough. I only mention it because someone in that AfD made the argument that "WP:COMMONSENSE must prevail". Mr. Barlage is one of the highest ranking front office officials for a team in the NBA, a top basketball league in the world. He argued that it's "a case where WP:IAR should apply". I don't know the validity of that argument but thought i should point it out. I see a Forbes article with Barlage in it. As for quotes, I will leave that to others. Keep or Delete. You guys decide. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 05:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Ok, that Forbes piece is authored by a staff writer, so should pass the reliability test. However, most of what's in that source is discussion about the Cavaliers or interview quotes from Barlage's mouth, neither of which contribute to notability. It seems to fall short as far as secondary SIGCOV that directly discusses Barlage as an individual person; the best I could extract from that source is the following:

Barlage, entering his second season as CEO, wants to change that. He has a five-year plan that includes an international component in South America.

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BeFriendlyGoodSir is the creator of the contested article.
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  • Comment I'm not sure on my vote yet. But I would say Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Cronin (basketball) is not particularly applicable given the differences in their roles. Both are high-level positions, but an NBA general manager and a head of business operations differ greatly in terms of coverage and notoriety. Because GMs are ultimately in charge and making decisions regarding the team's on-court performance, they and their actions (drafting, signing/cutting players and making trades) and are much more widely covered (and scrutinized) than handling the day to day operations of the organization (such as marketing, ticket sales, adding premium seating, etc.). Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
    WP:Articles for deletion/Joe Cronin (basketball) is certainly not applicable because that's based on WP:OTHER. The only thing that matters here is whether there's enough significant coverage directly about this article subject from independent secondary reliable sources. Left guide (talk) 22:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
I would say any full-time NBA GM (although maybe not interim) is likely notable, so could see some people correlating that to any person at the same organizational level if they don't fully understand the difference between the front-facing nature of the GM position against the others. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG as there is little WP:RS significant coverage and there is no other inclusionary criteria met. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep I disagree that this fails WP:GNG. I think that there is enough significant coverage. 1,2,3 help to demonstrate this coverage. GoldMiner24 Talk 01:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Two of your three sources due nothing for the WP:GNG. The first one is a podcast interview, the second is a press release. He's going to need more than that to meet GNG. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • The second source is the parent organization of his employer, and the third one is the university he attended; neither of those are fully independent of the article subject. Left guide (talk) 03:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak keep I think there's enough here. The Cleveland news stations, Cleveland.com and Cleveland Magazine should be independent enough. The news organizations decided that Barlage was worth reporting about. We can argue whether the content represents a significant amount of coverage, but personally, I'm satisfied. There's enough to build a reasonably informative article. The business leader of an NBA franchise is indeed an important role, and arguably more significant for the ongoing cultural impact of the team than any cup of coffee G-League call-up. Zagalejo (talk) 19:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
A "cup of coffee G Leaguer" likely has had SIGCOV going back to at least college, in addition to during his professional career and almost certainly has additional features done when signed to the NBA team. As for "cultural impact", I'm really not so sure as he essentially runs the arena prices and advertising because not actually the CEO of the Cavs themselves, but of the parent company. It looks like his current duties don't have really any impact on the on-court product. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete since the sources deployed to support notabolity are cumulatively weak enough to not constitute an acceptable foundation for an independent article. We are often impressed with corporate titles and titles are, oftentimes, awarded indeed to amplify a position's importance. He's a top manager; that is all. Not some creative force as the text makes him out to be, provided we pay close attention to the sources per se.
Forensics, amidst the avalanche of proffered links: A tsunami of typical, simple, obligatory announcements (here, here, here, and again here, more here, some more here, oh you want more, here's more and we're done, though there's plenty more; this NBA listing of every NBA executive, including our subject; come fawning text advertorial-wannabe such as this pap, ("Barlage is proud of how the renovated Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse served downtown", etc) in the Cleveland Magazine; as if the first tsunami was not catastrophic enough for the article's case, we are hit by another, this one of articles about the Cleveland Cavaliers but not about our subject, articles such as this, this, this, this, this, but you get the general idea; a PR press release about the Jeff Ubben Posse Fellows Program ("mentorship opportunities for high-achieving college students"), in which our subject is mentioned as one of the program's many hosts; a report on a youth center's renovation financially supported by the NBA, the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Kaiser Permanente, in which our subject is name dropped; then, more announcements, e.g. here; and so on and so forth, fluff masquerading as substance. -The Gnome (talk) 11:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Just wanted to chime in: your "fluff" link implies that the article is meant to be promotional, but I have no doubt that it was created in good faith. The creator frequently works on NBA articles, and the over citation was probably an attempt to overcome the article's draft status. (Also, please tone down the snark just a hair. Your arguments are fair, but your tone is unnecessary.) Zagalejo (talk) 18:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Both links shared are interviews, so have no bearing on notability. Best, GPL93 (talk) 02:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Are you claiming WP:TOOSOON? I would not be surprised if Barlage met your notability requirements in the next year or so and Volunteer time would be wasted and at that point nobody will bother recreating the article. So be it. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
No, I'm saying notability requirements are not met and I'm not sure they will be in the future. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. It appears we are no further ahead than we were when Star Mississippi closed the bundled nomination seven months ago. There seems to be some agreement that the topic is notable, and that a general article about Finnish exonyms could be written, but that this minimal-prose, extensive list isn't it. Editors are encouraged to expand the prose and trim down the list to a few examples needed to support it, or to discuss a merger to a more general article on the Talk page. Despite the popularity of the WP:TNT essay, cleanup via deletion is not supported by policy for this type of situation. Owen× 18:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Indiscriminate mostly unreferenced list of proper names, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Other such articles have recently been deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French exonyms. toweli (talk) 23:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't think there is that much useful content in the current article, but a new article could probably be written based on these sources. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 05:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Trim: A few names in the list are evidently not cognate to the respective endonyms, and I'd preserve these. Otherwise, delete as trivial; each language adapts foreign words to its own phonology and orthography, okay, we get it. —Tamfang (talk) 23:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep (struck out, see below Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)). The topic is notable. There is a clear consensus to trim the entries per WP:NOTDICT. However, there are also sources which can be used to improve the article beyond a mere list of words. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 04:41, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. There are literally thousands of active languages in the world, many are quite obscure. Keeping the articles of the "List of ...ian exonyms" with seemingly random selection of entries and practically no sources offered for verification (this article actually is of this type) will be a very bad precedent, as it will be inviting hoaxes (this is not the one, but who will be checking spelling of, say, Bangkok in Rotokas?). The preceding explanation is IMHO one of the (many) reasons for WP:NOTDICTIONARY, which is IMHO very clearly violated here (there is zero non-dictionary material here, indeed, an entry of a decent geographic dictionary contains more information than here). --Викидим (talk) 05:39, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
    I'd expect that in case of Rotokas it will not be easy to find sources that discuss the history of exonyms in Rotokas language. The sources in my earlier comment provide such information. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 05:45, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
    I do not foresee much trouble with, say, Finnish exonyms for places in Karelia (with, say, [24] as a source for the list) or Finnish exonyms for places in Sweden. But this seemingly random list includes, say, one city in Cyprus. Why Cyprus? Why one city? I understand the need for the dictionaries of geographical names, they make sense, but should be reasonably complete to be useful - attempt to include one here would surely run against WP:NOTDICT. Викидим (talk) 06:04, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
    The name of this article is not List of Finnish exonyms, but Finnish exonyms, so this article should not be a list article. I have no problem with removing almost all of exonyms here, and retaining only illustrative examples within the article text. There is a good-quality geographic exonymic dictionary available at https://kaino.kotus.fi/eksonyymit/ which we should not try to duplicate. We only need to add an external link to it. List of names of nationalities and languages can similarly be found at https://www.kotus.fi/julkaisut/nimijulkaisut/maat_paakaupungit_ja_kansalaisuudet Again, no reason to include that list in the article. The general principles of conjugation of place names can be discussed based on https://www.kotus.fi/ohjeet/suomen_kielen_lautakunnan_suosituksia/suositukset/maiden_nimien_taivuttaminen
    From the articles at https://kaino.kotus.fi/eksonyymit/?a=taustaa one can source e.g. the following things:
    Jähmefyysikko (talk) 06:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
    You propose to discuss not the article in question, but some other one that can be, quite probably, written. I might (and most likely, will) change my position once I see this other article. As-is, I see no reason to keep the existing text while waiting for the new one: the current list and your (very reasonable) proposal do not appear to share practically any text, so WP:TNT logic might be useful. Викидим (talk) 06:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
    In AfD we often consider whether the topic offers possibilities for an article, not necessarily its current state. But I agree that my vision of the future article might be divergent enough from its current state to merit the TNT. I'll strike my !vote now, and will perhaps recreate a different article under this title in the future. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge‎ to List of battles in Rajasthan. Liz Read! Talk! 03:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

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The article is not fulfilling WP:GNG. It is based on single source and also a very insignificant event with not much content to write has been converted into an article.It should be deleted and content, if any found relevant should be merged into something related to List of battles in Rajasthan.Admantine123 (talk) 01:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was keep‎. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Lacks significant independent coverage and mostly relies on promotional content, particularly for Matrix Fight Night. The tone suggests potential paid editing, violating Wikipedia’s neutral point of view. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPERSON. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 19:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Speedy Keep I really don't understand why this article is being proposed for deletion. the article meets Wikipedia's criteria WP:GNG. Moreover, reliable media sources, which are verified by Wikipedia, have covered news about this person. Additionally, I did not find any sentence in the text that promotes Matrix Fight Night (There is just a Mention).Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 12:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep Editing can clean up the conflict of interest aspects of the article. The sourcing looks okay to me. Doha Dear (talk) 00:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep WP:TOI is a reliable source provided that paid advertorials are not used. The sources used do not seem to be paid advertorials. The article requires some rewritting to ensure neutral point of view, but the subject meets WP:SIGCOV and hence is notable.Contributor892z (talk) 12:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect‎ to Steeleye Span. plicit 14:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Tim Harries (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article as it stands is unsourced. The assertion of notability relies on WP:INHERITed notability from the bands with which he has played, not on WP:MUSICBIO. Those with VRTS access can see ticket:2024091010008831. Cabayi (talk) 10:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete – Fails WP:MUSICBIO; if not, then redirect to Steeleye Span, but I prefer outright deletion. Sgubaldo (talk) 15:14, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Steeleye Span: as the band he seemingly had the longest tenure with. I could not find any sustained coverage, just a few passing mentions in reviews of albums he was on. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 15:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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