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AfD	Time to close	Votes	Size (bytes)	Score
Kristian P. Lusardi	2 months ago	1	4716	1745.84
Eight Sleep	2 months ago	4	6253	1504.54
James Shaw Jr.	2 months ago	3	4014	1442.26
VTES 3rd Edition	2 months ago	0	2872	1385.11
List of entertainment events at the Toyota Center (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	3572	1289.35
List of entertainment events at Civic Arena (Pittsburgh, PA) (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	4346	1288.62
List of entertainment events at Central Harbourfront Event Space (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	3817	1287.94
List of entertainment events at Liverpool Arena (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	4116	1287.2
List of entertainment events at AsiaWorld–Expo (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	3657	1287.03
List of entertainment events at the Olimpiyskiy Stadium (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	3753	1286.72
List of entertainment events at the Little Caesars Arena (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	0	3467	1284.6
List of entertainment events at Movistar Arena (Buenos Aires) (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	6438	1267.49
Lakana (2nd nomination)	2 months ago	0	12728	1255.84
Engschrift	2 months ago	2	6625	1238.35
List of entertainment events at the Golden 1 Center (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4157	1235.05
List of entertainment events at Canada Life Centre (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4077	1233.57
List of entertainment events at the Araneta Center (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4083	1233.27
List of entertainment events at Kia Forum (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4004	1233.06
List of entertainment events at the Sydney SuperDome (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4135	1232.68
List of entertainment events at The OVO Hydro (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4036	1231.77
List of entertainment events at Rogers Arena (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	4061	1231.45
Kay-Anlog, Calamba	2 months ago	3	5202	1228.97
List of entertainment events at the O2 Arena (2nd nomination)	1 month ago	1	5243	1212.95
Daniel Comeaux	60 days ago	0	5859	1207.38
UCI Health – Fountain Valley	60 days ago	1	3081	1195.46

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 15:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Kristian P. Lusardi

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:CRIMINAL. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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~~Move~~ to Christian Lusardi and leave a redirect. More sources available when you search for his "other" name - Christian Lusardi. PsychoticIncall (talk) 11:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC) (I'm striking your duplicate vote as I assume the most recent one is your current opinion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC))

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Keep Plenty of sources at his "other" name. PsychoticIncall (talk) 11:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. The sources that use the name Christian Lusardi are already in the article, and there is nothing notable about them. A red-linked "scandal" during a red-linked tournament where a "semi-amateur poker player" committed a minor crime and received a minor sentence. Highly questionable to include this WP:BLP in an encyclopedia. Geschichte (talk) 05:02, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete: I agree with Geschichte; there is nothing notable about the subject, and it fails to meet WP:CRIMINAL and WP:SPORTCRIT. GrabUp - Talk 14:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 02:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Eight Sleep

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Clearly a soft "infomercial" on WP that is not notable. Normchou ^💬 20:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: Sources 7 and 12 are product reviews, that don't appear to be paid promotional items. Why PC Mag is reviewing a bedding system is beyond me, but they're both RS per Source Highlighter, so are fine. I think we can establish notability with these and the other sources given. Oaktree b (talk) 20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

The topic is the company - the product reviews don't provide any in-depth "Independent Content" about the company. I'd also add that both those websites earn commissions from clicking on links, so not as independent as you might think at first, the websites are motivated to promote both the reviews and the click-thru traffic. HighKing 11:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. Needs a bit of cleanup but I think the product is notable enough. Pablo (talk) 12:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability of the *company*. If someone believes the product is notable and wants to write an article about the product is is likely going to be under a different named article. HighKing 11:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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I should probably start that topic at RSN I keep on not getting around to, but at present, I am still disinclined to accept affiliate marketing as satisfying ORGIND, and would therefore also recommend against an article on any of the products of this company, not having found any references meeting the criteria for those. Similarly, I could not find any qualifying coverage for the company itself, so I will have to go with delete. Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was keep‎. No consensus exists to delete; the possibility of a merger has been raised, but should be discussed in the appropriate venue. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:07, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

James Shaw Jr.

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James Shaw Jr. should be deleted because he does not meet Wikipedia's notability threshold. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Praiawart (talk • contribs) 16:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep - The shooting itself, the saving of lives, and the subsequent awards and honors are the notability. I think it's worthy of keeping. Whether or not there needs to be editing might be a POV of how a person reads this. — Maile (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Comment. The way to fix this article so that it doesn't read like a straight violation of WP:1E (notable for only one event) would be to add more detail about Shaw did afterwards. We find out that he gets a lot of awards - OK. But the article doesn't tell us anything about what Shaw did with his fame, except for "consider" running for mayor of Nashville. Tell us what he's been saying publicly – has he taken any position on crime, police, or gun control, for example? Are there any reliable secondary sources discussing his life outside of the one big event and what he's been up to? Cielquiparle (talk) 04:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Keep - there’s ongoing coverage after his one famous act. Bearian (talk) 02:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Merge: to the article about the shooting. This individual is only notable for that event, nothing terribly notable about them otherwise. This article has more about the shooting/event than about him as a person. Went to school and got a job, six lines or so, then almost half a page about the event. Oaktree b (talk) 20:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to Vampire: The Eternal Struggle with the history preserved if someone would like enact a merger. Star Mississippi 01:23, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

VTES 3rd Edition

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Outside MtG, individual sets of CCGs are almost never notable, and I don't see why this should be an exception. Maybe merge the mention of awards to Vampire: The Eternal Struggle if it is not there and redirect this per WP:ATD-R? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect per nom. Three relists for this, really? Jclemens (talk) 16:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. May not be eligible for soft deletion but no one is making a case for retention nor is there indication of any input forthcoming Star Mississippi 17:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Toyota Center

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 13:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: Definitely not a notable list. Fails NLIST and per NOTDIR. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 17:21, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Civic Arena (Pittsburgh, PA)

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Weakly defined inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 14:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Why isn't the list notable as a group? There are other arenas of similar size listed that have similar lists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_events_by_venue Jasonstru (talk) 17:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

This list isn't notable as a group because it fails WP:NLIST. WP:OTHERSTUFF doesn't mean this is notable. (Also, note that many in that category have been already nominated for deletion.) -- mikeblas (talk) 18:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I can't find any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the Civic Arena. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to Central Harbourfront#Central Harbourfront Event Space. as per Cunard's logic. And while I see Dclemens' note that there's not a strong case, I don't think we're going to get further input and there's no harm in this. If an editor feels strongly that it should not exist, maybe RfD will get some additional input. Star Mississippi 17:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Central Harbourfront Event Space

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Weakly defined inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to Central Harbourfront#Central Harbourfront Event Space (with the history preserved under the redirect), where the subject is already mentioned, per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 09:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was unable to find sources to demonstrate that the subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists. Cunard (talk) 09:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for Central Harbourfront Event Space. And it should go without saying that if Cunard can't find sources on a topic like this, they surely must not exist. (I don't think there's a strong case for a redirect here.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Ineligible for soft, but no one is arguing for retention. Happy to restore upon request if needed. Star Mississippi 17:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Liverpool Arena

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 14:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I can't find any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the Liverpool Arena. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was keep‎. Sourcing has been identified (thank you Cunard). The reason I land on keep v. N/C is the sourcing is strong and it's unlikely we're going to get further input per all these other discussions' limited participation. The article can and should be improved, but if someone feel strongly that this should be re-nominated on an NC timeline v. Keep, that is fine. Star Mississippi 17:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at AsiaWorld–Expo

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 14:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists, which says, "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list." I will show below that "entertainment events at AsiaWorld–Expo" has been treated as "a group or set by independent reliable sources".

Sources
1. Lau, Kei-tung 劉紀彤 (2024-07-15). "亞洲博覽館亞博7-8月暑假演唱會一覽！歐美日韓殿堂級巨星開騷" [Overview of the AsiaWorld–Expo's Summer Concerts in July and August: A Showcase of Legendary Stars from Europe, America, Japan, and Korea!]. U Lifestyle [zh] (in Chinese). Hong Kong Economic Times Holdings. Archived from the original on 2024-10-02. Retrieved 2024-10-02. [zh]&rft.atitle=亞洲博覽館亞博7-8月暑假演唱會一覽！歐美日韓殿堂級巨星開騷&rft.date=2024-07-15&rft.aulast=Lau&rft.aufirst=Kei-tung 劉紀彤&rft_id=https://hk.ulifestyle.com.hk/activity/detail/20037591/亞洲博覽館亞博7-8月暑假演唱會一覽-歐美日韓殿堂級巨星開騷-mirror-mc張天賦-金秀賢-itzy/1&rfr_id=info:sid/en.wikipedia.org:User:Cyberbot I/AfD's requiring attention" class="Z3988">
  The article notes: "踏入7月，又到暑假！今個暑假香港亞洲國際博覽館（亞博）將會有超過30場演唱會開騷，平均每兩日就有一場表演或見面會，匯聚歐美、日、韓、港等地歌手及不少殿堂級巨星，當中包括Rain 鄭智薰、邊佑錫、Ian 陳卓賢、Avantgardey、Anson Kong 江𤒹生、軟硬天師（葛民輝、林海峰）、aespa、ITZY、金秀賢、宇多田光、NCT道英、(G)I-DLE、Conon Gray、Jer 柳應廷、MC 張天賦！以下整合亞博將於7月、8月舉行的演唱會，有興趣的話可以睇睇啦！"
  From Google Translate: "As July arrives, summer vacation is here! This summer, the Hong Kong AsiaWorld-Expo (AWE) will host over 30 concerts, with an average of one performance or meet-and-greet every two days. The lineup features artists from Europe, America, Japan, Korea, and Hong Kong, including stars like Rain (Jung Ji-hoon), Byun Yuhak, Ian Chan, Avantgardey, Anson Kong, the duo Soft and Hard (Koo Man-fai and Lam Hoi-fung), aespa, ITZY, Kim Soo-hyun, Utada Hikaru, NCT's Doyoung, (G)I-DLE, Conan Gray, Jer Lau, and MC Cheung Tien-fu! Below is a summary of the concerts taking place in July and August at AWE. If you're interested, be sure to check it out!"
2. "亞博館逾120場騷料吸百萬樂迷暑假檔期爆滿實現「演唱會經濟」" [The AsiaWorld–Expo hosted over 120 events, attracting millions of music fans. The summer schedule was fully booked, achieving a "concert economy".]. Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 2024-07-12. Archived from the original on 2024-10-02. Retrieved 2024-10-02.
  The article notes: "7至8月間，將近每個星期均有韓流演唱會或明星見面會於亞博館舉行，包括跳唱代表韓國男團EXO隊長SUHO、NCT主唱道英、影視代表「善宰男神」邊佑錫及淚之女「婿」金秀賢，還有多隊人氣女團VIVIZ、IVE、aespa、ITZY及（G）I-DLE等。"
  From Google Translate: "From July to August, there are K-pop concerts or celebrity meetings held at the AsiaWorld-Expo almost every week, including the representative Korean boy group EXO in dancing and singing, Doyoung, the lead singer of NCT, and the film and television representative "Sun Jae" Byun Woo-seok and his son-in-law Kim Soo-hyun, as well as many popular girl groups including VIVIZ, IVE, aespa, ITZY and (G)I-DLE."
3. Nip, Amy (2011-07-06). "AsiaWorld-Expo ramps up concert, show dates". South China Morning Post. ProQuest 875105430. Archived from the original on 2024-10-02. Retrieved 2024-10-02.
  The article notes: "Twenty-two international artists or groups are scheduled to hold concerts in the first nine months of the year, up from 10 in the same period in 2010. James Blunt, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Suede, Paramore, Simple Plan and Linkin Park will take to the stage in the next two months."
4. Lee, Ada (2012-04-25). "AsiaWorld-Expo expects business to remain buoyant". South China Morning Post. ProQuest 1009107462. Archived from the original on 2024-10-02. Retrieved 2024-10-02.
  The article notes: "He was speaking as the centre prepares to hold four shows by pop queen Lady Gaga next week, with others by Jacky Cheung Hok-yau, Jason Mraz and Stone Roses booked in the coming months. Canadian group Cirque du Soleil will perform at the venue in the summer."
5. "AsiaWorld-Expo sees international events surge to draw tourists and purchasing power". The Standard. 2024-08-14. Archived from the original on 2024-10-02. Retrieved 2024-10-02.
  The article notes: "More than 120 concerts will be hosted this year at AWE, with over 30 concerts this summer featuring artists ranging from ... The latest example is the fan meeting of beloved South Korean actor Kim Soo Hyun, which attracted over 5,000 fans from around the world. ... AWE also hosted a K-pop concert by the girl idol group ITZY and a traditional Taoist ritual, drawing over 15,000 visitors in a single day."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the subject to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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The result was delete‎. It is unlikely we will gain access to Russian language sourcing with the lack of input so far. Happy to treat this as a soft deletion and restore upon request especially if sourcing is found. Star Mississippi 17:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Olimpiyskiy Stadium

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. No inclusion criteria, very weak referencing. mikeblas (talk) 14:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I can't find any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the stadium. My one caveat - if there are sources in Russian that anyone turns up I am open to revisiting my !vote. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 18:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Little Caesars Arena

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Stated inclusion criteria does not match title. mikeblas (talk) 15:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I can't find any sources (beyond some WP:ROUTINE, zero-depth stories) discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the arena. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 17:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Movistar Arena (Buenos Aires)

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Contains only events since the end of 2019, only concerts. Completely unreferenced. mikeblas (talk) 14:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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What is "soft deletion"? What attributes make an article eligible or ineligible for soft deletion? -- mikeblas (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, mikeblas,

For policy, see WP:NOQUORUM. Basically, Soft Deletion is treating an AFD discussion with low attendance as a PROD, proposed deletion. They are seen as uncontroversial deletions and if an AFD closes as a Soft Deletion, this allows an editor to ask for the article's restoration at WP:REFUND. AFD closures are not eligible for a Soft Deletion if a) there are any Keep votes (hence deletion is not uncontroversial) or b) an article has been PROD'd before or brought to AFD before. Does this explain things sufficiently? Many AFDs that have been relisted but have no participation or just one editor arguing for "Delete" are closed as Soft Deletions. It can be seen as preferable to additional relistings which may or may not result in additional participation. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't heard of that AfD outcome before. But your note is confusing; isn't every AfD "already at AFD"? Therefore, none would ever be eligible for "Soft Deletion". -- mikeblas (talk) 09:59, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, I meant a previous AFD discussion, prior to the one that the article is currently involved in. And Soft Deletion isn't uncommon, if you look through a past AFD daily log page, you'll see plenty of discussions with that closure especially these days now that the number of editors participating in AFD discussions has decreased. With some AFDs, we are lucky to have 3 or more editors voicing their arguments unless it is a hot button subject like those involving current political situations. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I see. I relisted this after a "procedural keep" vote in a bulk nomination. I was told that there wouldn't be prejudice against re-listing it, but now I'm finding that there is. -- mikeblas (talk) 17:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I can't find any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the Movistar Arena. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to Pirogue as a viable ATD Star Mississippi 18:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Lakana

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Lakana presents this term as representing a specific type of watercraft (an outrigger canoe) with a specific type of rig (the "downwind" mastless rig that is supported between two sprits). This specific type of craft does exist – it is shown in the photo illustrating the article. However, in Malagasy, as far as I can determine, the word "Lakana" is any type of canoe, with or without outriggers, with or without a sailing rig, and certainly not confined to just one type of sailing rig. This is clear from the reference in the article
Hornell, James (1920). "67. The Common Origin of the Outrigger Canoes of Madagascar and East Africa". Man. 20: 134–139. doi:10.2307/2839454. Retrieved 5 September 2024.
which has a translation provided by a colonial administrator confirming that "lakana" is not a specific type of canoe, but a canoe (or boat) in general. Hornell is still seen as a useful authority on the ethnography of sailing craft in the areas in which he worked. If the word applied to a particular hull and rig combination, he would have picked up on this.

I have asked for help on the Wikiproject Madagascar[1] with no result. Therefore, I think we have to conclude that these concerns about the article are correct. If "lakana" is a much broader term than the article suggests, if we do not the name of the type of craft that the article describes (I can find no source that makes this clear), then the only option is to delete the article as unsupported by sources.

In passing, it is worth saying that I have come to the conclusion that though the subject of traditional sailing craft in Madagascar would make a very interesting (to me) article on Wikipedia, there simply are not sufficient sources to do the subject justice. This is after some considerable searching. (It would be great to be proved wrong in this.) ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 13:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment this is the second AfD nomination for Lakana, but the first related to a company not a type of boat. TSventon (talk) 14:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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Comment. In terms of:

Scope. To my read, the article doesn't state (at least not directly as interpreted by the nominator) that the article "presents this term as representing a specific type of watercraft (an outrigger canoe [of Madagascar]) with a specific type of rig". Rather it states (as would appear to be supported by Hornell (1920; p.138) and Richardson (1887; p.345)) that the Lakana is (yes) a specific type of watercraft. Being an outrigger canoe. That is "dug out". Rather than "built". IE: A "specific type of watercraft (a dugout outrigger canoe [of Madagascar])". Which is supported by Richardson in particular. Yes, the article mentions different types of rigging. But I don't read it as stating that the rigging type is part of the definition/classification. If that is unclear, I would suggest that we clarify or change the text. Rather than delete the article.
Sources. To my mind, there are sufficient sources (including the two above) to support some text about the subject. Being a type of dugout outrigger traditionally used in Madagascar. Even if just as a sub-set / sub-section of the Pirogue article. Which appears to cover the "generic" class of small dugout canoe. Globally. With a redirect left behind. To a subsection on the Madagascan type.
Suggested action. If the issues with the title are scope (including clarity of the text) or sources (reflecting them), I'm not sure that outright deletion is the right way to go. Deletion isn't cleanup. At the very least, a merge/redirect seems like the way to go. To Pirogue. Leaving out any "questionable" or potentially confusing text.

My 2x cents at any rate. Guliolopez (talk) 19:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment.

Translation: The key issue is whether Lakana is a term for "outrigger canoes which are based on a dugout hull" or if it applies to "any dugout canoe". The two sources discussed above seem to give the definition of an unqualified "dugout canoe". At present the article is solely about the outrigger version. To assist in decision-making on the meaning, see this video[2] with the caption "Miandry ny lakana miampita" which google translates as "The boat is waiting to cross". We can see there is no outrigger. (Whilst OR is not allowed for article content, there is no prohibition on using it to help understand a subject.) The boat in the video is very different from the seagoing outrigger canoes.
What makes this more difficult is the knowledge that the Vezo make use of outrigger canoes with a distinctive common spritsail rig (as defined by Edwin Doran [3], pg 40, fig 21, drawing B) that is not described, in Madagascar, by Hornell or anyone else. (Hornell describes this rig in the neighbouring Comoro Islands [4]) A Vezo boat is the one illustrating the Pirogue article – but there is no RS that identifies the rig type. And, of course, Commons has no obligation for its descriptions of pictures to be supported by an RS. This might contribute to the impetus for deletion in this editor's mind (as proposer), as there is a very common class of Madagascan dugout outrigger canoe that is totally undescribed in RSs, so making the subject incomplete. (See youtube[5] for these Vezo craft under sail, which is something that most believe Hornell never saw). All I have to back this thought up is some private correspondence with a researcher on Austronesian rigs – so essentially WP:OR.
If I understand User:Guliolopez correctly, their suggestion would mean a complete rewrite of the article to fit the sources and then merge it into Pirogue. That would fit with the intent behind the proposal: that we do not really have enough sourced material for an article on the Lakana on its own. Have I got this correct? ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 21:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Reply. Hi ThoughtIdRetired. RE: "suggestion would mean a complete rewrite of the article to fit the sources and then merge it into Pirogue". Effectively, yes, I think that's probably the most appropriate outcome. Retain the title. As a redirect. And summarise and merge the content/text (about the Lakana being a form of Pirogue/dugout traditionally associated with Madagascar) into the Pirogue article. Guliolopez (talk) 14:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete. (Note: prior to the AfD nomination, I had suggested to the nominator that they put this up for deletion.) My take on the current sources etc. is that none of them indicate that the lakana is anything other than the Malagasy for a canoe. My interpretation of each source etc. below:
- "The lateen rig allows a lakana to sail closer to the wind, so giving some windward performance.[1]”
  - My interpretation: Doesn't indicate that the lakana is something different.
- "The boat is often referred to by the general French term "pirogue", which can include boats with no outriggers.[2]"
  - My interpretation: “general French term” suggests there's nothing special about the lakana.
- “The technology was adapted in neighboring East Africa, like the Tanzanian ngalawa and the Fulani laana.[3][4]”
  - My interpretation: Can't access these sources, but the Wikipedia wording suggests that there are similar craft elsewhere - i.e. there's nothing peculiar to Madagascar about these.
- “some locals prefer the Hazomalany wood (Hazomalania voyronii of the family of Hernandiaceae).[5]”
  - My interpretation: Doesn't indicate that the lakana is something different.
- Hornell, James (September 1920). “The Common Origin of the Outrigger Canoes of Madagascar and East Africa”
  - My interpretation: Only indicates that “lakana” is simply the Malagasy for “canoe”.
- Richardson, J (December 1887). “The Affinities Of Malagasy With The Melanesian Languages”
  - My interpretation: Only indicates that “lakana” is simply the Malagasy for “canoe”.
- “An Austronesian square-sail is more common (e.g. in Ambaro Bay).[a]”
  - My interpretation: Doesn't indicate that the lakana is something different.

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~~Delete~~, as there is very little material in this article that can be merged into Pirogue. On going through this in detail, there are perhaps three sentences to add to Pirogue from this article. (The tree species used for the sailing versions, the "lakana" is the Malagasy for pirogue, and that this word applies to dug out canoes, with or without outriggers and with various rigs. We cannot say more as the sailing rigs are incompletely described by sources.) Lakana would just remain as a redirect. ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 21:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm stiking your duplicate vote. Your nomination statement is your Delete vote. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to DIN 1451. Seems like rough consensus that we don't want an article, and if there's no consensus as to the exact redirect target, I'm going to pick one of the options as an editorial decision and make it RfD's problem. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 00:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Engschrift

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Initially PRODed by me, for the following reason:

In addition to the existing relying on a single source and vagueness issues (likely due to translation), the information in the article could easily be included onto the existing articles – DIN 1451, Austria (typeface), Tern (typeface) and Road signs in Austria – with the provision of sources, weakening the article's basis.

Deletion was objected, a merged was proposed instead. However, it is not possible to redirect one article to 3 others. Created a topic at WikiProject Typography over 4 months ago with no response. The article has no notability on its own, and is poorly written/explained. EthanL13 | talk 22:06, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete This is covered in DIN 1451 in more detail than is here. Nothing in that article gives me the impression that a separate article on DIN 1451 Engschrift would be needed. I did search and Engschrift is always defined together with DIN 1451. Lamona (talk) 02:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Merge to DIN 1451, by condensing the Austria section into a single sentence and placing it under DIN_1451#Usage_examples (this is sourced - the article's only source refers to this). There is certainly no justification for a standalone article, as the target article provides better coverage for every other aspect. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I agree with a merge, since Engschrift (German for "narrow font/script") isn't strictly unique to DIN 1451. EthanL13 | talk 14:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, it is in this case, as the article makes clear. The term should lead the reader somewhere. Do you have more general redirect targets in mind? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the article is much to go by – it can't even stick to its own subject in the lead. If it were possible, a disambiguation page (with DIN 1451 as its primary article) would be ideal, with links to Austria (typeface), Tern (typeface) and FE-Schrift. Just an idea, not sure if it's possible. EthanL13 | talk 09:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Maybe a disambiguation would be the way to go, given the several different types where the term is accepted as a variant, and the fact that it also represents the original German term for shorthand [6]. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:05, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Anything as long as it's deleted. I recommend making it a redirect to Font#Width, the content can be spread out in the relevant articles if it is of any interest. Mr.choppers | ✎ 18:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 17:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Golden 1 Center

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Significant referencing problems. mikeblas (talk) 15:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: These three sources (all independent, secondary, and reliable) collate entries of this list topic together as a group, thus satisfying WP:NLIST criteria. Left guide (talk) 21:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
These are just schedules (and they only cover 2024), so they don't satisfy WP:NLIST because they're not significant coverage. -- mikeblas (talk) 17:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
You have a point; I hadn't previously inspected the sources in that manner, but now I have. In that light, delete. Left guide (talk) 23:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I can't find more than one source discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the Golden 1 Center. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 19:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Canada Life Centre

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for Canada Life Centre. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Happy to restore on request, but there's no indication support for retention or any input is forthcoming Star Mississippi 18:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Araneta Center

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 15:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for Araneta Center. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Happy to restore on request, but there's no indication support for retention or any input is forthcoming Star Mississippi 18:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Kia Forum

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 15:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for Kia Forum. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Happy to restore on request, but there's no indication support for retention or any input is forthcoming Star Mississippi 18:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Sydney SuperDome

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Weak statement of inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 16:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for Sydney SuperDome. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Happy to restore on request, but there's no indication support for retention or any input is forthcoming Star Mississippi 18:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at The OVO Hydro

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. mikeblas (talk) 16:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for The OVO Hydro. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:28, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Rogers Arena

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Weak statement of inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 16:29, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for Rogers Arena. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. I've attempted to find any sort of coverage in RS, there doesn't appear to be any. Appears PROMO. --181.197.42.215 (talk) 16:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was withdrawn‎. (non-admin closure) HueMan1 (talk) 23:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Kay-Anlog, Calamba

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Fails notability WP:GEOLAND, Barangays are not considered being notable. Please see here the similar deletion (which is converted the redirect), for more details. TentingZones1 (talk) 08:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. HueMan1 (talk) 21:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to Calamba,_Laguna#Barangays per WP:ATD --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Keep: Some other deletion discussions mostly were kept. This article is in good shape and has a lot of information, hence keep. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Comment: When becomes as a redirect, Calamba,_Laguna#Barangays. Makes it some knowledge about this barangay. Soft deletion if not redirected, resulting the article links were comes in various articles, which is problematic due of lack of sources. When the vote changed in keep, unless the reliable sources and information are available for this article. TentingZones1 (talk) 10:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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I will withdraw the article for deletion. TentingZones1 (talk) 08:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. Happy to restore on request, but there's no indication support for retention or any input is forthcoming Star Mississippi 18:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the O2 Arena

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Weakly stated inclusion criteria does not match title. mikeblas (talk) 15:59, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Of all the nominations in this set, I was most prepared to find some WP:SIGCOV of "History's greatest events at O2 Arena" or some such -- and yet I didn't. I don't see any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for O2 Arena. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 22:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Comeaux

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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. Man doing his job. No indication of significance. scope_creep^Talk 10:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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BucketSky10 (talk) 17:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Although I'd agree that simply doing the job alone does not indicate significance, I'd contend that the area of impact and subject matter constitute significance. Comeaux oversees/implements the DEA's policies for over 16 million people throughout Texas. This is particularly significant considering the hot button topic of the opioid epidemic--especially so as fentanyl coming through Texas is a large focus of nationwide policy and debate. For notoriety, the Houston Chronicle (one of the largest newspapers in the nation) did a piece solely focused on him and CBS and NBC affiliates in Houston (KHOU and KPRC respectively) have also featured him for interviews. BucketSky10 (talk) 17:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

@BucketSky10: Interviews don't count toward establishing notability. If you have sources, now is the time to post them here. WP:THREE is the formal standard for establishing. Post three WP:SECONDARY sources to prove its notable. scope_creep^Talk 17:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

BucketSky10 (talk) 00:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Here are my three: 1, 2, 3 . I appreciate your time throughout this process. BucketSky10 (talk) 00:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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Comment Looks at these references:

Ref 1 [7] This is all taken from an interview.

Ref 2 [8] This is a passing mention.

Ref 3 [9] This is another interview style article.

The problem with these is that the conversation detail comes from Comeaux himself. There is no WP:SECONDARY sources, people talking to other people about Comeaux (secondary) in detail (in-depth) who don't know Comeaux(independence) that prove he is notable. All the currrent reference come from Comeaux himself. He is essentially non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 08:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: Per nom. The newly found references are also passing mentions with no SIGCOV, failing GNG. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 19:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 17:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

UCI Health – Fountain Valley

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Does not meet WP:GNG. The sources speak of the majority of hospitals within the network but give no significant coverage of the Fountain Valley location Conyo14 (talk) 04:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep this hospital is notable, the nominator should have did a Google Search before nominating. Catfurball (talk) 17:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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