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Please also highlight the fact that most of the encroachers evicted by the current dispensation are from the Meitei community. [[Special:Contributions/122.164.102.52|122.164.102.52]] ([[User talk:122.164.102.52|talk]]) 07:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Please also highlight the fact that most of the encroachers evicted by the current dispensation are from the Meitei community. [[Special:Contributions/122.164.102.52|122.164.102.52]] ([[User talk:122.164.102.52|talk]]) 07:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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== 393 temples supposedly destroyed ==

{{U|Luwanglinux}}, Two sources were provided for this claim:
* {{Cite news |title=‘Religious conflict narrative is misleading’ |url=https://www.thesangaiexpress.com/Encyc/2023/10/7/By-Our-Staff-ReporterIMPHAL-Oct-6-Against-350-Churches-393-Temples-and-sacred-sites-were-destroyed-in-the.html |access-date=2024-06-24 |work=www.thesangaiexpress.com |language=en}}
* {{Cite news |title=Meitei churches not spared by Kukis |url=https://www.ifp.co.in/manipur/meitei-churches-not-spared-by-kukis |access-date=2024-06-24 |work=Imphal Free Press |language=en}}
Both Imphal-based newspapers, who do not have access to the Kuki-dominated hill districts. Where does their information come from? -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 19:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:36, 24 June 2024


Illegal immigrants

I was curious about this edit of Iskandar323, which introduced this passage under the summary of "copyediting".

In 2023, the state government in Manipur began efforts to remove what it claimed where illegal immigrants from settlements in reserve forest areas. Officials stated that illegal immigrants from Myanmar had been settling in Manipur since the 1970s.[1]

References

  1. ^ Das, Yudhajit Shankar (4 May 2023). "Manipur violence: State is burning, but what is the decades-old fuel behind the fire". India Today. Archived from the original on 4 May 2023. Retrieved 4 May 2023.

In a later edit, they deleted the scratched out phrase.

The first sentence apparently comes from this statement in the source:

But Meiteis say that the protest against ST status is just a facade. The Kukis are unnerved by the state government's drive to remove illegal immigrants from settlements in reserve forest areas.

The second sentence from these statements in the source:

"Kukis are migrating illegally from across the Myanmar border and occupying forest land in Manipur. Recently, the Manipur government started an eviction drive to clear illegal settlements in reserve forest areas. The drive was in all areas, including those inhabited by Meiteis and Muslims, but only the Kukis are protesting," says Chand Meetei Pocshangbam of the All Meitei Council.

"Meiteis are demanding an NRC because of the sudden population spike in the last two decades in areas bordering Myanmar. Illegal immigrants from Myanmar have been settling in Manipur since 1970s but the movement has intensified now," he says.

Apparently, "Chand Meetei Pochshangbam of the All Meitei Council" has turned into "officials", and his claims climbed out of the quote marks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you check the diff, I didn't introduce the material, but merely moved it from one section to another. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the block of edits that you made. This content wasn't present before your edits. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Change it as you see fit. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background section on refugees

I have deleted from the mainspace a huge section on refugees from Myanmar, which is growing and growing. Please note that material in the background sections has to be validated by sources that connect it to the present topic. You can't simply add whatever you personally think is relevant. That would be considered WP:OR. Also, all the material concerning Mizoram should be deleted. Pinging Chaipau for his input.

The renewed outbreak of civil war in Myanmar[1][2] has caused an influx of refugees in the states of Manipur and Mizoram. Dozens of illegal immigrants, including ex-security, forces reportedly entered Manipur.[3][4] In July 2023, there were an estimated 50,000 refugees who had fled into India.[5]

While the Myanmar refugees are given familial treatment with compassion to take shelter by the state government of Mizoram, the Manipur government's view on the matter is somewhat divergent.[6][7] Dominant Zo-Kuki demographic of Manipur's Churachandpur district which borders the state of Mizoram, and the dominant Mizos have strong ethnic relation with each other and also with Kukis of Myanmar. While Chief Minister Zoramthanga of Mizoram, under his governance, shows a sense of compassion towards refugees including ex-forces of Myanmar, at least some Zo-Kuki portion in Manipur are not happy with the attitude of Manipur government, under the leadership of Chief Minister N Biren Singh, towards them who are, if not together, in the proximity of Myanmar immigrants.[8][9]

In addition to the influx, drug trafficking, spillover of the war and the Myanmar junta's use of aerial bombing and napalm has destabilized the border region.[10] In January 2023, the Myanmar Air Force carried out airstrikes [11] targeting the Myanmar-based Chin National Army's headquarters, near the India-Myanmar border. The air attacks violated Indian airspace and soil, according to local Mizo organizations and the international research and advocacy organization Fortify Rights.[12] India expressed its concern to the junta about its military actions near its sensitive northeastern region in the wake of massive exodus of refugees into India.[5] Minister of Home Affairs Amit Shah stated that the influx of Kuki people from Myanmar created insecurity amongst the Meitei people of Manipur and triggered the violence. According to ground reports, many refugees also brought arms with them and instigated drug turf wars.[13]

References

  1. ^ Emily Fishbein (25 January 2023). "Fears of escalation after Myanmar air raids near India border". Al Jazeera.
  2. ^ "Junta forces conduct airstrikes on PDF camp near India-Myanmar border". The Frontier Manipur. 2023-03-23.
  3. ^ Bismee Taskin (2021-03-21). "'If we don't obey, they shoot us' — why many Myanmar policemen are escaping to India". ThePrint.
  4. ^ "Manipur illegal immigrants: 718 from Myanmar entered the state on July 22-23, claims army officer's letter to Chandel DC". India Today NE. 2023-07-24.
  5. ^ a b "India Asks Myanmar to Avoid Actions That Aggravate Border Situation". The Wire. 16 July 2023.
  6. ^ Bismee Taskin; Pia Krishnankutty (2021-03-24). "Why Mizoram sees Myanmar refugees as 'family' — close ethnic ties that have survived a border". ThePrint.
  7. ^ Bikash Singh (2023-07-26). "Two North Eastern states – Manipur and Mizoram – have divergent views on Myanmar refugees". The Economic Times. ISSN 0013-0389.
  8. ^ "8 Myanmar nationals with bullet injuries in Manipur hospital spark allegations of illegal influx". India Today NE. 2023-07-11.
  9. ^ "Assam Rifles Says Myanmar Nationals With Bullet Injuries Not Involved in Manipur Violence". The Wire.
  10. ^ Mehta, Ashok K. "Manipur conflict rages on amid Myanmar civil war". The Tribune.
  11. ^ "Five killed in junta airstrike on Chin resistance force headquarters near Myanmar-India border". Myanmar Now. January 12, 2023.
  12. ^ "Fears of escalation after Myanmar air raids near India border". Al Jazeera.
  13. ^ {{cite web |title=Myanmar’s Civil War Blowing Up India’s Act East Policy |url=https://indepthnews.net/myanmars-civil-war-blowing-up-indias-act-east-policy/ |website=In Depth New |last=Seneviratne |first=Kalinga |date=9 December 2023||

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the paring down by @Kautilya3. Immigration as a contributing factor has emerged ex post facto, after the fact, and should not be placed in the background section. Chaipau (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sub-section had a lot of contribution from my side. Would have considered looking if it fits in other sections example: Overview. I don't fully agree removing all of it as such as it also explains genuine sentiments of the Kukis, to some extent their displeasure towards the Manipur govt. vis-a-vis Mizoram govt. which also had some voiced audibly. But anyways if two editors agree on the same edit (more of a deletion), I respect. Okenkhwairakpam (talk) 13:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 April 2024

Addition of Aigejang Shooting to the See Also section. Minmarion (talk) 17:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold pending whether the page Aigejang Shooting passes review by new page patrollers or not. If so, will add. —Sirdog (talk) 03:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, no harm in just adding it now. If the link becomes red enough people are watching this page where it'll be swiftly removed.  Done. —Sirdog (talk) 00:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recurrent violence

After perusal of the content and sources cited, I have removed these

"On 17 June, the Archbishop of Imphal stated that 249 churches have been burnt in Manipur.[1]

The state police face allegations of siding with the dominant Meitei community.[2] In an effort to call for peace, opposition leaders visited the violence-affected areas on 29 July.[3]

On 14 December bodies of 64 recently killed were handed to their families.[4]"

Reasons:

  1. WP:Relevance of content - The content does not have any relevance at all to the section (Recurrent violence)
  2. Also in view of MOS:Oversection
  3. Without any relevance to the section and far from Manual of Style, it is bloating the article

If any of our respected editors and anyone for that matter think it otherwise, please come up with your valuable points, so that we can discuss.

Thank you. Okenkhwairakpam (talk) 18:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Archbishop of Imphal claims 249 churches burnt in Manipur: 'Religious attack carried out'". The Indian Express. 2023-06-17.
  2. ^ Dhillon, Amrit (2023-05-16). "'Separation is the only answer': Manipur violence fuels calls for separate state in India". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077.
  3. ^ ""When They Return From Manipur...": BJP's Dare To Visiting Opposition MPs". NDTV.com.
  4. ^ "India: Bodies of 64 killed in Manipur violence handed to families". 15 December 2023.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 June 2024

Please also highlight the fact that most of the encroachers evicted by the current dispensation are from the Meitei community. 122.164.102.52 (talk) 07:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 08:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

393 temples supposedly destroyed

Luwanglinux, Two sources were provided for this claim:

Both Imphal-based newspapers, who do not have access to the Kuki-dominated hill districts. Where does their information come from? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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