Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yusof Mutahar (2nd nomination)

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The result was speedy deleted WP:A7 by Billinghurst. (non-admin closure) ミラ P 04:51, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yusof Mutahar

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Fails WP:GNG. Previously AfDed for same reason [[1]]. A quick search of Google News shows all the Press Releases in a trial to recreate the page. (Al)most all the references in article are paid posts too. Bishal Shrestha (talk) 05:49, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete Well it looks like it hase been REFBOMBED this time around. A lot of the references seem to be templated/cookie cut using "supplied" material, including the duplicated use of common stock images. Hence there would appear to be some doubt as to the independence of a lot of the sources being referenced. Aoziwe (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the sources are not independent, reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking.
https://www.livemint.com/brand-post/a-doctor-s-dream-dr-yusof-mutahar-sets-eyes-on-bollywood-11576758635750.html is a "Brand Post". It has this disclaimer: This is a company press release. No HT journalist is involved in creation of this content.
https://www.news18.com/news/press-release/dr-yusof-mutahar-the-new-household-name-of-india-2399325.html is a press release
http://www.forbesindia.com/article/brand-connect/doctor-yusof-mutahar-turns-actor-eyes-bollywood/56223/1 is tagged "BRAND CONNECT" and has this disclaimer: The pages slugged ‘Brand Connect’ are equivalent to advertisements and are not written and produced by Forbes India journalists.
https://www.ijf.org/judoka/49041/contests Doesn't have any content
https://www.judoinside.com/judoka/129800/Yusof_Mutahar/judo-matches Mentions that he lost one match and won none
http://www.businessmole.com/there-are-doctors-and-then-there-is-dr-yusof-mutahar/ makes that rather bold claim that he won "both state and national titles", representing Australia in 2018
https://boherald.com/meet-top-surgeon-of-australia-dr-yusof-mutahar-who-is-a-talented-actor-too/
calls him a "top surgeon". He's not a surgeon, he's a General practitioner.
https://guruobserver.com/2019/two-famous-doctors-from-the-same-family got their content from Issuewire.com; it's a press release
https://www.cryptotim.es/dr-yusof-mutahar-an-exceptional-entrepreneur-and-doctor-from-australia/
Why, one wonders, would a Spanish magazine write about an Australian GP. Because there is this really compelling question: "Will he enter the crypto space soon?" Seriously, that is the connection. Or perhaps
cryptotim.es publishes press releases for pay and pretends they're editorials.
https://www.mid-day.com/articles/yusof-mutahar-a-doctor-model-and-actor-all-set-to-make-a-debut-in-bollywood/22364159 is "partnered content"
https://www.openthenews.com/dr-yusof-mutahar-the-soaring-model-and-actor-from-australia-driving-the-way-of-prosperity/ doesn't support that claim that he appeared in Shapludu, it says: "He made his debut in the acting industry in 2019, being cast in two, Hollywood movies." Whatever Shapludu is, it's not made in Hollywood.
https://www.klkntv.com/story/41228322/dr-yusof-mutahar-doctor-model-up-and-coming-actor is a press release
https://in.style.yahoo.com/yusof-mutahar-brilliant-actor-model-072034574.html is republished from popdiaries.com, a blog
https://www.news18.com/news/press-release/dr-yusof-mutahar-the-new-household-name-of-india-2399325.html is a press release
https://books.google.com.bd/books/about/ECG_simplified_by_Dr_Yusof_Mutahar.html?id=6Va6DwAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y Nobody believes that these five-star reviews of Dr Yusof's self-publshed book are real.
https://www.thehansindia.com/life-style/its-time-to-welcome-renowned-doctor-yusof-mutahar-in-india-not-as-a-doctor-but-as-an-actor-584077 Isn't wonderful that a newspaper from Hyderabad has such interest in a GP from Perth, Australia? It's also funny that the sources cited keep mentioning that His net worth is estimated at more than 5 million dollars. That sure comes up a lot.
https://www.californiaherald.com/meet-australias-multi-millionare-dr-yusof-mutahar/
The california herald is a fake source. But Lisa Baker doesn't fail to mention "his worth is computed to be Five million dollars which are a massive figure to look at". This is apparently really important.
http://www.californiatimes.us/dr-yusof-mutahar-in-talks-with-bollywoods-top-production-houses/
Oh, look the author, "Chris Asher" points out that "his worth is computed to be Five million dollars which are a massive figure to look at".
https://english.newstracklive.com/news/dr-yusof-mutahar--celebrity-doctor-and-fashion-model-sc17-nu-1048336-1.html It's not clear why this source is used to cite that he wrote Secondary Causes of Hypertension in General Practice, since it doesn't mention it. Perhaps the undisclosed paid editors who wrote this article got tired, and figured nobody was going to check the sources if they randomly plaste enough of them over the article?
https://nagpuroranges.com/keeping-youthful-new-album-release-by-yusof-mutahar/
https://www.cinetalkers.com/keeping-youthful-new-album-release-by-yusof-mutahar/ Here we have two articles, except that they're the same. Better cite it twice, eh?
https://www.theamericanreporter.com/dr-yusof-mutahar-from-australia-is-all-set-to-enter-in-bollywood/ theamericanreporter.com is a fake source
https://25hournews.com/news/keeping-youthful-new-album-release-by-yusof-mutahar-764 Here's that same article that Jeetu Likhar Jeetu Likhar wrote for nagpuroranges and cinetalkers. Only this time is was written by Siddhartha.
We really should do more than delete this article. We should ban the UPEs who wrote it and depricate or blacklist all the sources, including so-called newspapers like Mint (newspaper) and The_Hans_India
because they publish for pay and we can't trust a word they print.
I can't believe I just wasted all this time on this AfD. Next time any of these sources appear in an article, just take it straight to WP:G11 as Unambiguous advertising or promotion. That's what this is. Vexations (talk) 19:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Since the last article there was been significant independent coverage after movie production as well as album and books hence me thought it was justified to make wiki. If you search his name in Bengali here, You will find news from several newspaper as well as in print version. Also as he is a former Judo and has a profile on on the International Judo Federation here and has worked in film which push me to make an wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davion Robinson (talk • contribs) 07:07, 16 January 2020 (UTC) [reply]

The few Bengali sites I have now looked at also seem to be cookie cut shared material? Aoziwe (talk) 09:43, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for UPE and likely sock/meatpuppetry. MER-C 09:29, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note I have asked for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bangladesh. (They do not seem to have a deletion list?) Aoziwe (talk) 09:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Salt the contributors of the previous article are either blocked/locked for COI/paid editing. This user probably has the same. The article failed WP:GNG before and it fails now. All Bengali results on google fail WP:RS and I agree with Bishal Shrestha. There seems to be a number of sock farms actively creating articles about non-notable Bangladeshi model, actor, actress and company on English and Bengali Wikipedia. ~ Nahid ^Talk 10:16, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

keep This article can fall in WP:NPOV as there are independent sources for album and movies. Availability of 2 medical books on Google Books. LeungChow (talk) 12:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for UPE and likely sock/meatpuppetry. MER-C 09:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG & WP:TOOSOON. None of Bengali sources are reliable or established news site and all of them are promotional news/press release type new. All source listed in article are also press release (paid news). 2-3 sec/min appearance on movies and/or two published book doesn't make anyone notable. delete and salt. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:54, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

keep The subject clearly passes WP:SIGCOV. I searched him in Googlenews and discovered lots of news-related references here Per the search, WP:GNG is clearly met also. This is never a case of WP:SALT. Salting policy applies when there's a case of repeated blatant recreations. Catorce2016 (talk) 03:58, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for UPE and likely sock/meatpuppetry. MER-C 09:27, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Salt, fully agreed with Nahid and আফতাবুজ্জামান. Warm Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 18:38, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I did checked The subject clearly follow WP:SIGCOV. I checked him in Google news, Google Books, lots of relable news source and two books . Enfaruk (talk) 07:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- I believe his notability and worthiness lies in his work as a doctor and general practitioner more than anything else. The sources indicate that he is a notable Australian Doctor who founded two medical companies (cosmetic and clothing), written two medical textbooks and released a medical related album keeping youthful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Logick (talk • contribs) 08:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
delete and salt. Most of these sources are completely unreliable, such as californiaherald. Praxidicae (talk) 18:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and SALT Refbombed, promotional article of someone who falls short of WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:51, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Thanks Miraclepine. I was working through this by other data means, hadn't seen the discussion. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]