Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Auburn Middle School
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 01:09, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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It seems strange to have a dab listing only topics that not only don't have articles, but, per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, likely never will. Wouldn't it be more helpful to simply let search results take care of this? BDD (talk) 17:02, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. BDD (talk) 17:02, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. BDD (talk) 17:02, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Keep 2 entries which meet MOS:DABMENTION. Potentially WP:USEFUL - certainly nothing to be gained from deletion. Boleyn (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- Unsure. I notice there are many disambiguation pages like this (see the See also section). WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES only suggests an outcome for articles, not disambiguation pages, and while MOS:DABMENTION does seem to allow for this I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of having disambiguation pages for everything that doesn't warrant an article. —gorgan_almighty (talk) 19:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Delete. Even two entries with full articles, rather than just mentions, generally don't merit dab pages.Clarityfiend (talk) 03:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment That isn't what the guidelines say, see WP:2DABS: If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, but neither one is the primary topic, or if both topics are obscure, then it is appropriate to have a disambiguation page at the base name. For example, John Quested is a disambiguation page for the two people by that name who can be found in the encyclopedia:
John Quested may refer to: *John Quested (aviator) (1893–1948), English World War I flying ace *John Quested (producer) (born 1935), film producer and owner and chairman of Goldcrest Films
If people disagree with the guidelines, by all means, that should be discussed at an appropriate venue - not here. So far the comments don't go beyond WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Boleyn (talk) 05:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- All right; I've amended my rationale. Also, the example you give has two full-fledged articles. Two entries that are likely never to have articles is too big a reach. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:34, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Comment WP:2DABS extract given above specifically mentions using a dab for two items which are both obscure and to which a given title might refer. This clearly meets that description. Boleyn (talk) 16:05, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep two obscure entries which meet DABMENTION. It would be a bad idea to redirect to one target, because that implies adding hatnotes for potentially every other school in the area/district. Also a DAB seems easier to navigate than a page of search results, assuming its up-to-date. Siuenti (talk) 22:23, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Reluctant keep. After examining Category:Educational institution disambiguation pages, it looks like they got us surrounded. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep: If there was only one "Auburn Middle School", it would be standard policy to redirect it to the appropriate school district. There are (at least) two: why should either of them have less navigation just because there's a second one? The dab page just serves the function of that redirect, for each of them. Plus a couple of harmless "See also"s. PamD 12:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. I thought the policy on schools was to keep them? We keep malls, why not schools? SW3 5DL (talk) 20:40, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- High schools yes. Below that, they generally get redirected to their school districts unless they have some unusual distinction. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:29, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note that this is a disambiguation page, not an article about a school. Siuenti (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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