This is the tenth page of my talkpage archives, dated late-February to mid-March 2006. Please do not edit this page. If you wish to leave a message, click here! :)
Being someone who hasn't been using Wiki for long, I was wondering what options there are for some sort of recognition of the part that the Redshirt Filmette Series has in the development of Trek fan films.
- Could Tony "Userfy" this? Include it on his homepage?
- Can he try again in the future IF he addresses the objections that caused this original article to be rejected? For example if he gets wider recognition of his project?
I'm not the person who submitted the article, but its inclusion on the Star Trek, fan made productions article has met the same resistance and this was, to me, a viable option. I'm just feeling my way around on this to see what the limits of the Wikipedia are.
I am totally opposed to the idea of Wiki articles being voted for deletion because self-proclaimed experts deem them to be non-notable. Either it exists as a fan film or it doesn't. If it does then its existence should be aknowledged even if it is judged by its peers to be a dog.
Those who come after us should not be given the impression that our work was all primroses and sunshine - we are making mistakes as we go along and it the recognition and recording of those mis-steps that can guide and educate those who want to build on our experience.
I'd appreciate your help in working out a solution in this matter - it is a test case for a number of other fan films whose existence might not otherwise be known.
Regards
Kirok of L'Stok--Kirok 23:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I understand why the Principles of System Architecture page was deleted by you, agree with the Original Research policy now that I've read it. But I'm wondering if you have a copy of the page that you can send me for my records, as I didn't have another backup and I need it for my work? Thanks,
Hello, coaches. As you can see, there is a significant backlog at the Esperanza Admin Coaching program. Since we do not want users to have to wait forever to get assigned, I'm asking all of you for a status report. If you feel that you are done, that your coachee is not active enough, or that you could handle the extra load from another coachee, please tell me in my talk page as soon as possible. Thanks! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:49, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Don't know if youre aware of this already but in the first AfD on this article there was an
illegal change of an editor's vote by 128.103.186.226 - a Harvard I.P. Address. See [1]Dlyons493Talk 10:57, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, what you suggest seems fine. My main concerns are that the record of the Afd on the talk page was subsequently blanked by this IP also (both actions making it more likely that it will survive the current Afd) and primarily that all this article is totally unverifiable. It may be true, but I deeply mistrust it. What I'm going to do is remove all unverifiable material from the article and note that on the talk page - lets see what sort of hornet's nest that stirs up! Dlyons493Talk
Hi, Pretty much as I expected, it's been reverted to its unverified state. I don't want to get into an edit war over this - what would you advise? Dlyons493Talk 18:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Herm. We're always saying that "it's a debate, not a vote" but when it's something like a webcomic, we allow a few "votes" to force a no consensus. By doing so, we allow a very small minority to overturn a guideline that's widely agreed upon. There is also a notice board where webcomic deletions are listed.
Is there any chance I can get you to re-open this and relist on todays AfD page? In almost every case when these are left open longer a broader consensus emerges, and what could be the harm in more discussion rather than less?
Thank you for supporting my successful request for adminship. I'll try to put the admin tools to good and responsible use. If I do anything wrong you know where to find me. Raven4x4x 07:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
hello diablo, can you reconsider your deletion of crying while eating, i imagine it was deleted for not being noteable, but it is notable, i insist. it has been a sucessfull (intentional)study of internet culture and has won 2 awards for its content. "crying while eating" returns 56,200 google hits. Its page has not been developed properly to reflect this. atleast it is more noteable than these. please reconsider. thank you Spencerk 00:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey Mailer diablo! I wish to say thanks for your vote at the Esperanza elections.
I've made my way into the Advisory Committee, so if you ever need any help or have any queries about the stuff we do, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks again, KnowledgeOfSelf 09:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mailer diablo! A note from me too, thanks for your vote! Like KnowledgeOfSelf said, please let us know if there's anything we can do for you! --JoanneB 18:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for voting on my RfA, it passed with a final tally of 68/0/0 so I'm now an administrator. If there's anything I can do to help, you feel I've done something wrong, or there's just something you want to tell, don't hesitate to use my talk page. Thanks. - Bobet 10:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for your support in my request for adminship (did you know that "adminiship" is not an English word? Unbelievable!). It ended with a tally of (51/0/0). As an administrator, I hope to better help this project and its participants: if you have any question or request, please let me know. - Liberatore(T) 12:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed this article (which you deleted in Jan after this afd) has been recreated. My instinct is to speedily delete it as a recreation, but can you just take a look and see if it's any less speculative than the deleted version? Best wishes, RobertG ♬ talk 16:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mailer diablo. Regarding Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Choa_Kok_Sui you deleted. You missed deleting the related articles in the AfD discussion. There are three of them. If you have time, could you please follow up? Or advise on further action. Many thanks. Metta Bubble 10:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Much appreciated. Thank you. Metta Bubble 04:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mailer diablo, hope you are well. I noticed you closed the Afd for this as delete. I have no problems with the page disappearing, but I am concerned that the edit history for the text that was merged into 1992-93 in English football is now missing. I think it's a GFDL requirement to maintain that. Would you mind merging the edit histories? Many thanks. - Nzd(talk) 21:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mailer diablo, thanks for your reply. From what I have seen in my (admittedly limited) experience of Wikipedia, it's generally accepted that if one page is merged with another, then the redirect should remain intact, so as to preserve the edit history. Otherwise, the edit histories should be merged.
The GFDL requires acknowledgement of all contributors, and editors continue to hold copyright on their contributions unless they specifically give up this right. Hence it is required that edit histories be preserved for all major contributions until the normal copyright expires.
As you say, this article doesn't have a complex edit history, so I'll just put a note on the talk page stating where this text came from. I think this is important though.. All the best. - Nzd(talk) 23:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Hi Mailer diablo/Archive J, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota~° 21:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!
Thank you for your support of my successful request for adminship. I am honoured that the nomination was supported unanimously and that the community expressed confidence that I would use the tools wisely. If you have any concerns please let me know on my talk page. Regards A Y Arktos 20:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Thank you for your support in my recent RFA. It passed 53/1/2 and I am now an administrator. I appreciate that some of you made exceptions to your usual requirements re length of service and so on because we've interracted positively in the past, or because of my credentials, so I will endeavour to use my new mop cautiously. I'm always open to feedback and gently constructive criticism. If you're not an admin and need some assistance do of course please let me know. Thanks again --kingboyk 00:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
P.S. If you are interested in The Beatles, User:Lar has asked me to tag on a little note advertising the creation of a new Beatles WikiProject that we are currently setting up. Please sign up and help.
Hi Mailer, interested in a Chat Nite on any chat clients? Do take a look at our notice board discussion page for details. --Terence Ong 13:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh btw, would you mind dropping by at IRC more often? --Terence Ong 15:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Could you please explain to me why you deleted the page that I spent time creating because I wanted to help people who were interested in the topic? Only three people voted to delete it, and none of them responded to my clarification about how it would clearly fit Wikipedia's standards of notability once more content was added to it.
Should I lose faith that Wikipedia is really based on encourging people to add pages that will fit its broad standards, as is stated repeatedly across the site? Should I come to the conclusion that Wikipedia's ranks include power-trippers who get off on getting to reject something (without careful assessment of it and rules that would govern the rejection)? How awful does it feel for me when I try to create something to benefit others, and the time and work that I put in goes to waste? Why would I try to do anything to help the community again, if it is governed in such a way that this sort of clear violation of its own standards can take place?
Thank you for replying to me, and I appreciate the explanation. I understand the process, but I have to maintain that the page would not have violated the standards of notability, including those listed on the notability page referenced in the message you sent to me. I probably won't bother trying to create a page again (at least for a long while) because this incident has turned into a real pain in the butt (in contrast to my original thinking that this would be a nice thing I could do that others would appreciate). But I'll continue to edit as I have numerous times (just using my IP address).
By the way, no cache of the page I created exists, does it? I just wondered if someday those criteria for articles become a little less strict, maybe I would try to put it up again.
I'm not expecting anything soon either. But maybe someday. Yes, if you could place it in my user subpage, I would much appreciate it. Cheers. HalfDome 16:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for voting your (future) support on my RfA. I'll probably be up again once I get more familiarity with "the process", at which point I hope to have your (actual) support. --Christopherlin 17:52, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (66/2/3), so I am now an administrator. Please let me know if at any stage you need help, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an admin. Have a nice day! Stifle 17:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for taking the time to vote for me in my recent request for adminship It ended successfully with a final score of (40/10/5). I value all of the contributions made during the process and I will take a special note of the constructive criticism regarding interacting with users in the user talk space. If you have questions or requests, please leave a message. (aeropagitica) 17:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Ignorance is bliss, but I'm posting here just to let you know about a vandalism attempt by 71.193.138.120 on my userpage (you can view the edit log here)
Thank you for your time =) round 20:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Mailer diablo! Thank you for your kind message regarding my wikibreak. Staying away from this place proved impossible though, so I'm back. :) See you around! All the best, Sango123(e) 20:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
P.S. I love the layout of your user page and subpages. :)
I'm leaving this macrophage, a particularly hungry white blood cell on your talk page, I just finished a rewrite of its article and realized they're not so different from administrators, as they keep their surroundings clean, doing away with anything that's not supposed to be there... Anyway, with that short lecture on cell biology done with, I'd like to thank you for your vote on my RfA, which passed with (49/2/0), I'll do my best to not let you down, and if you see me heading towards a common newbie mistake, please nudge me in the right direction :)
Thank you! Hey Mailer diablo/Archive J, thank you for your support in my RfA: it passed with a final tally of 55/1/2. If you want a hand with anything, please gimme a shout. Again, thanks! – JDoorjamTalk 21:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi ... just dropping you a note to let you know I'm still alive, just sick. As you can see from my user contributions page, my activity has trickled down to nothing over the last few days as my cold has gotten worse and worse. I just wanted to let you know I didn't leave Wikipedia or go on a random Wikibreak or anything; I just haven't been able to sit in front of the computer for more than a few minutes at a time without getting dizzy. I hope to get back and finish my Admin Coaching questions sometime in the next 24 hours or so. I'll let you know when I'm done, and I'm sorry for making you wait like this! --Aaron 01:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey Mailer diablo/Archive J, how is it going? Thank you for supporting my Request for adminship! It passed with a final vote of 73/1/1, which means that I have been granted adminship! I look forward to using these tools to enhance and maintain this wonderful site. I will continue regular article/project contributions, but I will also allocate a sizable portion of my wikischedule toward administrative duties :) Thanks again, and if you have any questions/comments/tips, please let me know! — Deckiller 04:49, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I understand we are a very small company, and understand why you have deleted the page from the Wikipedia.
However there is very little information on the internet about storage requirement terms, we have coined a few terms such as
storage change over time.
We would be happy to place the PDF document regarding storage trends into the the Wikipedia commons : regardless of the deletion.
Please have a look at the document, if you think it is suitable then I will submit the document with your approval.
Document available from : http://lucidsystems.org/download/StorageReq_v1.2.pdf
The reason the company was originally formed was because we were unable to find a suitable backup solution.
Now we offer managed computer workstations, and Managed Storage solutions.
Also the Synergy Consortium is an interesting idea regarding company interaction http://lucidsystems.org/sc/
I believe people are interested about how to manage computer systems. Perhaps people can gleam some ideas from a page which covers more details of the way Lucid Information Systems works and manages computer systems. In addition people looking to find an appropriate backup solution may beinifit from explanations of different systems we have investigated.
I think our original page did not really add a great deal of content to the Wikipedia, however our intention has been to continue adding infomation and for others to also add to this page, so it becomes a useful resource linking together ideas such as computer management, information management and backup.
If you still feel that a page related to "Lucid Information Systems" is not a suitable article for Wikipidea, we completely understand.
I've become peripherally involved in this article, and noticed tonight that it has a lot of deleted edits. You didn't leave a deletion summary when you deleted it in January, whatlinkshere didn't turn up any afds, and it doesn't look anything like a speedy; is there something going on here that I don't know about? —Cryptic(talk) 02:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mailer Diablo. You've taken a lot of great pictures of transit; I'm also a big fan of busses, trains, and planes, and their stations. Anyway, I wanted to thank you for taking the time to consider my RfA, which passed this morning. If there's ever anything I can help you with, just ask; you know where to find me. ×Meegs 06:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
greetings from an Indian wikipedian. I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to give here. Thanks. --Bhadani 14:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RfA, which was indeed no big deal. It passed, with a final tally of 62/0/1. I'm touched by all the kind comments it attracted, and hope I'll be of some use with my new tools. You know where I am if you need to shout at me. Flowerparty■ 15:46, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi I put United Hardware up for AfD recently as it is blatant advertisment. The result was to delete, your goodself did the honours and got rid of it, however it has now been recreated again by the original author....... rather than go through the whole AfD process again can it be speedy deleted on the back of the last AfD result? Thanks Death Eater Dan(Muahaha) 16:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
It is hardly a blatant advertisement. It is factual information about a company. You may not have heard of the company, but it is in fact an important retail chain in this part of the world. If you have additional constructive information to add, by all means add it, but rampant deletionism of factually correct, non-biased articles hardly helps wikipedia. dml 22:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Please note what Wikipedia is not paying particular attention to WP:CORP. United Hardware may well be a factual company it is not however notable encyclopedic content. Only articles on companies that comply with WP:CORP (with all sources being cited) can be included in wikipedia. However this article has already gone through the AfD process once and has now been recreated with no atempts to bring it inline with WP:CORP. Death Eater Dan(Muahaha) 22:58, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
WP:CORP does not apply to cooperatives, which this clearly is. Cooperatives are privately held, not publicly traded, and do not publish their statistics widely as say a public company does. That does not mean it is not notable or does not exist. At any rate, that WP:CORP a guideline, wikipedia is not finished, as you may be aware, so deleting something that does not meet every aspiration is hardly constructive.
Thanks for supporting my RFA. I really appreciated the show of support and all the kind words from so many great Wikipedians. I hope I live up to them! -- Vary | Talk 17:24, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for participating in my RfA. It passed with a final tally of 98/13/10, just two short of making WP:100. If you need my help with anything, don't hesitate to ask.
Thank you for your recent vote on my RFA. While the nomination failed, I was rather expecting it due to the big lapse between registration and recent edits. Anywho, if you have any suggestions as to how I could improve so as to hopefully succeed next time, please let me know! Thanks! —akghettotalk 07:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello from an Indian wikipedian. I am wishing you a happy Holi, the unique Hindu celebration of color and brotherhood among all members of the humanity. The festival falls on 15th March2006. By the way, I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to give here. Thanks. --Bhadani 05:35, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my RFA. I appreciated the show of support and all the kind words. If there's ever anything I can do to help with my new administrator status, please don't hesitate to contact me. --Myles Long 14:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Given that you closed the AfD debate on the former, please also close the related AfD debate on the latter. Thanks, the.crazy.russian(T)(C)(E) 02:17, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your support and kind words on my recent RfA, which I am pleased to say passed with a final tally of 80/1/1. If you ever need any help, or if I mess something up as an admin, please let me know.
Hi Mailer, to concentrate on real life and take a break from editing, I've decided to take a five day wikibreak. I will let my RFA go as it is and I will still be on IRC. Do join in for today's chat nite and party if you wish. Do enjoy yourself there. :) --Terence Ong 07:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Unless you're advising Terence to withdraw, I think you might want to modify your new comment at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Terence Ong. His support level is currently 76% with several days to go. Consensus isn't clear yet, but it's entirely possible he can be promoted, whereas your statement reads like one which accepts defeat ("Oh, and remember Terence, RfA is not everything, don't get too upset, there will be always another try next time"). If people think even the nominator is having second thoughts, the oppose votes will just pile on and neutrals (myself included) might be swayed towards oppose. That's my 2 cents anyway! --kingboyk 07:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
The page linked to Rene Spitz and aaron Beck is deleted. but, where is the deleted page of vote for deletion page? --Sheynhertzגעשׁ״ך 08:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
It may redirected. --210.128.247.147 07:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
[[2]] - any idea how an AfD you closed with a delete 10 days ago has reappeared? I think the article's been recreated, but how did a closed AfD just reappear ... as an admin, I'm dumping this one on you ;) Proto||type 16:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Talk pages are where people discuss how to make content on Wikipedia the best that it can be. You can use this page to start a discussion with others about how to improve the "User:Mailer diablo/Archive J" page.
(Muahaha) 16:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
