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NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation

		Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		For completing over 500 reviews during the 2018 NPP New Year Backlog Drive please accept this Special Edition Barnstar. Thank you for helping out at New Page Patrol! There is still work to do to meet our long term goals, so I hope you will continue your great work. Cheers! — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 12:20, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

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		For maintaining a streak of at least 100 reviews per week during the 2018 NPP New Year Backlog drive, you are awarded the asymmetric epicyclic gears. Well done! Keep up the good work. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 12:20, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

DNAU theHypn0toad 23:36, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Morlachs

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Thanks for the reminder

I was rushing to get out and eat lunch, totally forgot to delete the redirects! In the future, redirects to deleted pages can be tagged with G8 (my favorite!). ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:25, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for getting that, will do. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 18:45, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ronald Reagan

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Edit summary

I get that the long edit summaries are funny (and that people can now type longer ones if they want), but making a null edit with your entire comment to a closed thread is pointy and disruptive. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:39, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

LX: the thread was moved to WP:AN#Links to youtube videos, if you want to make your commentary there. As for null edits to say something in the summary: I don't really see a problem except that your commentary gets buried in the page history, instead of being preserved on the page. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

It prevents people from replying to them, which is the problem, and it is frowned upon by WP:REVTALK. Someone making commentary in an edit summary is one thing. Making the entire comment in the edit summary and only adding a period is another. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I suppose they could reply via the same method, but I can see how that could get unwieldy and disruptive. In any case, I got the impression that LX simply wasn't aware that it was moved, and wanted to let them know. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:16, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fair, anyone is free to join in the conversation, just typically with saved text . I just was leaving a note re: the es. Anyway, alls good. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:23, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

MPants at work and TonyBallioni Sorry about that. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:19, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I see the AN has been closed, so for context, my comment was sipposed ot be a reply to Nihlus's 15:32 comment L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

And surprise AFK for i don't know how long. sorry. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:26, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Robin Hood

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ACTRIAL - next steps for the Future of AfC & NPP

Hello L3X1, thank you for your efforts reviewing New Page and AfC submissions and your support for the ACTRIAL initiative.

The conclusion to the ACTRIAL report commissioned by the Wikimedia Foundation strongly reiterates our long-time on going requirements for the NPP and AfC processes to be improved. Within minutes of the trial being switched off, the feed was swamped with inappropriate creations and users are being blocked already.
This is now the moment to continue to collaborate with the WMF and their developers to bring the entire Curation system up to date by making a firm commitment to addressing the list of requirements to the excellent suite of tools the WMF developed for Curation. Some of these are already listed at Phabricator but may need a boost.
The conclusions also make some recommendations for AfC.
A place to discuss these issues initially is here where you are already a task force member.

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Please comment on Talk:Jessica Chastain

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Please comment on Talk:List of Presidents of the United States

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Please comment on Talk:Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon

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Please comment on Talk:Ronald Reagan

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Why the resummon? L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 05:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

I think you you were right. Most everyone else thinks you were right, too. Thank you for the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/“Mr Juicy” Gino Gambino "WP:NACD"

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User not here to contribute. (When it comes to wrestling with Australia-related articles, I generally write about Tasmania. Have mentioned that Tasmania is not a fictional place?) Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:49, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Please don't close AfDs as delete if you can't actually carry out the deletion. Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

SarekofVulcan Did you have any other reasons to offer for this request (which I do intend on heeding, I had forgotten about the next point) other than the erroneous point 3 of NACD? Is it the duplicate work (the admin reviewing the G6 has to doublecheck the {nac} of the AFD to make sure it was proper)? Thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 17:30, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

It's not erroneous, it's a long-standing part of the guideline. If you disagree with it, please start a discussion on the talkpage instead of ignoring it. It's not so much the duplicate work, as the problem that an admin might not find the closed discussion and realize there's still work to do. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:59, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

Thank you for your welcome message, I also hope that I will be more active on wiki. Clawstark (talk) 08:27, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Vladimir Peftiev

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Deletion sorting for People

Hello, L3X1. I've just reverted your posting of the deletion discussion for Carlos E. Stolk III at the People page for Deletion Sorting. I did that because the instructions at that page tell us to not place discussions there if they can be sorted into a more-specific category (and those instructions give a lengthy list of those more-specific categories). If you disagree with my action, I'll be happy to discuss further. NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:08, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:James Toback

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Nuked content

Yeah, sorry about that. I went ahead and closed it even though I was involved. IAR and all that. John from Idegon (talk) 02:20, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

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New Page Review Newsletter No.10

Hello L3X1, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

• ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing

• Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

• The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies. A further discussion is currently taking place at: Can a subject specific guideline invalidate the General Notability Guideline?

Nominate competent users for Autopatrolled

• While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.

News

• The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.

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Make ACTRIAL into ACTLAW! L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 12:58, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion sorting for People - 2

Hello again, L3X1. I've just reverted seven of your postings to the People page of Deletion Sorting. My reason for doing so is the same as the one I gave when I first alerted you to this matter in my posting here of March 27. As before, I'll be happy to discuss with you. NewYorkActuary (talk) 13:22, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 14:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:George Washington

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MfD nomination of User:L3X1/CSD log

User:L3X1/CSD log, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:L3X1/CSD log and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:L3X1/CSD log during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. theHypn0toad 23:49, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

check yoself before you wreck yo self. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 01:45, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Family of Donald Trump

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).

Administrator changes

331dot • Cordless Larry • ClueBot NG

Gogo Dodo • Pb30 • Sebastiankessel • Seicer • SoLando

Guideline and policy news

• Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
• Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
• The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
• The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news

• There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

Miscellaneous

• A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
• The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

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Ontology (cryptocurrency)

Hi, you had been involved in an informal RfC on cryptocurrencies some time ago. Could you please check this new article and decide if it merits an article. Thanks, MT Train^Talk 12:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Mark the train On it, thanks. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 12:19, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

I do not think it is notable. There is an indepth article from The Merkle (was going to link it, but that site in on our blacklist), but they cover any and all cryptocurrencies, so I would consider it run-of-the-mill, though reliable. NewsBTC 2 seems to say that its only merit is "being the only cryptocurrency in the top 50 which is gaining", while everything else drops. That is also the idea I get from all the other sources, the coverage seems to be recent and not really in-depth about the currency itself, just that is for a very short duration being a top performer. SUSTAINED and TOOSOON appear to be at play here, and GNG too, considering 10 of the 12 news hits I read are dedicated CC journals who cover any and every cryptocurrency. Then there were all the mentions, like CNBC] which mentioned it as existing but not in great detail. Kudpung has PROD'd it, and I am inclined to agree. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 12:48, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

This is why it's important to understand Wikipedia notability. Whether the subject is notable or not, the article fails to meet our criteria. I only PRODed it because there is no CSD criterion for it, but it has to go. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:1953 Iranian coup d'état

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Please comment on Talk:Naomi Wu

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About a recent revert

About that last edit of mine on "Kickass torrents", it's okay if you didn't put the link. But you should remove that sentence saying the new site had part of the old site's user and torrent database. They didn't. Also, the new one does not have a "similar appearance". That's for sure. Thanks.

Will do, sorry about that. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 16:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 16:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Bill Shorten

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Please comment on Template talk:Infobox writer

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Please comment on Talk:Horst-Wessel-Lied

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Not ATD-R

The terms need to be likely search criteria. Remember that these songs are over a decade old and never merited an article. The only reason that I didn't take to PROD is that the creator has not been blocked and contested a PROD for an earlier non-notable creation. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:54, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll swap it out for Cheap, then. thanks, L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:55, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Mark Weisbrot

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Infobox image RfC

Because you have commented previously at other image RfCs, letting you know there's another one you might be interested in looking at here. Thanks,-- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 20:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Jessica Valenti

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Please comment on Talk:Sarah Paulson

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Where is today's, o bot?

Ultraman edits re: EIA's Ultraman release

You said I didn't provide a reference. I am the reference. I produced the release back in 1996. You can find information for it on Amazon, EBay, Kaiju Fan, G Fan, etc. If you want me to send you an affidavit, I'll be happy to but I produced the project and was the CEO of the corporation which put it out.

Rick Martin [email protected] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.123.69.222 (talk) 19:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Andrew Scheer

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Invitation to WikiProject Portals

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   10:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Sean Hannity

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Please comment on Talk:John R. Bolton

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April 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's April 2018 worldwide online editathons. Focus on: April Further with Art Feminism Archaeology Military history (contest) Geofocus: Indian subcontinent Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative
		To subscribe: Women in Red/English language mailing list or Women in Red/international list. To unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list. Follow us on Twitter: @wikiwomeninred --Rosiestep (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2018 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DNAU all the way up to April 15th at least L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 22:05, 25 April 2018

Please comment on Talk:Husan

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Please comment on Talk:Jeff Novitzky

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me myself and I look into this in an week L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 20:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Jacques Goulet

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May 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's May 2018 worldwide online editathons. File:Soraya Aghaee4.jpg New: "Women of the Sea" New: "Villains" New: "Women in Sports" New: "Central Eastern European women" Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative
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List of YouTubers

There is another deletion discussion on List of YouTubers. If you would like to weigh in, you can do so by checking out the discussion here. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 05:37, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).

Administrator changes

None

Chochopk • Coffee • Gryffindor • Jimp • Knowledge Seeker • Lankiveil • Peridon • Rjd0060

Guideline and policy news

• The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
• A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news

• AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new equals_to_any function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
• When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
• The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
• There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.

Obituaries

• Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

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Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump

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Bot, if you ping me to another RFC on that page I will have your roof rafters hung, your portrait drawn, and you will be quartered in the homes of Bostonians. Go bother rapunzel or something. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 16:15, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Dear L3X1,

Thank you for the thanks for my edit on Portal talk:Cars.

I'm glad you like portals.

You are cordially invited to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals, or at least visit, to check out the advancements we are making to portal design.

So far, we've made a couple new templates to make portals easier to build, easier to maintain, and more dynamic.

They are Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Come on by and see what we've been up to. And let us know what you think.    — The Transhumanist   12:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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WikiProject Portals Overview, May 04, 2018

Thank you for being a member of the Portals WikiProject, and thank you for all the work you have all been doing on the portal namespace. To see the activity, check out the watchlist.

This is our 3rd issue, see previous issues at the Newsletter archive.

Top priority: Main list of portals needs updating

The top, and one of the most visible parts, of the portal system is Portal:Contents/Portals, which is intended to list all (completed) portals on Wikipedia.

About half of the missing existing portals have been added since this WikiProject's reboot (April 17th). Thank you to RockMagnetist, TriNitrobrick, Polyamorph, PratyushSinha101, Ganesha811, Bermicourt, Javert2113, Noyster, Ɱ, Lepricavark, XOR'easter, and Emir of Wikipedia, for working on this.

We are half-way to completion with this. We need everyone to chip in until it is done. Instructions, and the list of missing entries are at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope you'll join me there. ("Many hands make light work").

Thank you.

Membership

We're at 66 members, with more joining daily. We even have 6 WikiGnomes!

Special thanks

I have awarded Certes with a portals barnstar on his talk page for his work on the new excerpt templates that are revolutionizing the portal system (Template:Transclude lead excerpt & Template:Transclude random excerpt). If you'd like to show your appreciation, please feel free to stop by his talk page and add your signature to the barnstar itself.

Thank you Certes. You are enabling this WikiProject to get the right things done, fast.

By the way, the templates have already gone international. After being told about the templates, Mossab wrote:

Thanks You very much!. Those are fantastic and great templates! I transferred them to Arabic Wikipedia and they do a magic great job. I worked to improve portal anatomy here and i do every thing i can to improve it and i am very sad for the nomination for deletion of portals :(. I am glad to be member on WikiProject Portals and i added my name with pleasure. Kind regards

RFC

As you know, the (April 8th) proposal to delete all portals and the portal namespace inspired the reboot of this WikiProject. RfCs typically run for 30 days, which means there are 5 days left including today, before the RfC will be closed. The !votes are predominantly "oppose", but many editors have shared their disappointment with the portal system. We have our work cut out for us in correcting the problems of the portals to address their concerns. Complaints ranged from being out of date and lacking maintenance, to taking up the time of editors that they felt (due to low traffic) would be better spent improving articles.

Anti-WikiProject drama

This past week has been somewhat stressful for me, with more than a little conflict...

It culminated with my being reported at the Administrator's Noticeboard "for spamming and canvassing". This is the second time I've been reported there during the RfC; the first one was for posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages.

The accusations were 1) Posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages, 2) Adding an Article alerts section to the Portals WikiProject page, and 3) posting notices (invitations) about this WikiProject on user talk and portal talk pages.

None of which fall under the Wikipedia definitions of spamming or canvassing.

Thank you, Lionelt and Lepricavark, for coming to my rescue. I don't know how the discussion would have turned out if you had not spoken up.

The discussion was closed as "no action necessary".

After that, the person responsible posted their thoughts to my talk page. Here they are, with my response:

Congratulations, it appears your relentless targeted advertising of the RFC, your beating the RFC Supporters with a stick by posting countless times there, your dishonest insistence that Current Events was on the chopping block, and your obstruction of clean up efforts at MfD are paying dividends. Have fun playing with Portal space where no one will read your work. I'm sure someone will eventually clean up the mess when your interest wanes. Cheers. Legacypac

Thank you. I accept your congratulations on behalf of Wikiproject Portals and the portal-loving community – it was a team effort. In addition, I'd like to clarify some things about your claims above...

1. Each page nominated for deletion must have a notice at the top of its page, per the deletion guideline. Not to have one there, would be unfair to those who use such pages, and would constitute a secret deletion tribunal. We don't do things that way on Wikipedia.
2. As new facts became available (e.g., a motivated and thriving WikiProject to support the portals, new building blocks, etc.), it was appropriate to post the developments to the RfC, to support informed decision making.
3. Proposals are literal, not figurative. The proposal specified "all portals". All means all.
4. The fact is, the rebooted WikiProject is cleaning up the mess, rather rapidly. By updating and upgrading the portals, rather than getting rid of them.
5. I think I'll be hanging around for awhile, but the project is more than likely to achieve critical mass and may outlive us all, due in part to the development of tools to assist editors in building, upgrading, and maintaining portals that are fully dynamic and self-updating.

Portals are more fun to work with than ever. Thank you for your role in making this happen. You made us try even harder, and inspired us to pull together as a team. You'll have a warm place in our hearts, forever. The Transhumanist

Automatically refreshed excerpts

The main advancement we've made so far is applying selective transclusion Transclusion is template technology, showing a page on another page. Selective transclusion shows only part of that page. We use it to show excerpts that always match the source. The two templates we have so far, are Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Obsoleting subpages

Excerpts are migrating toward the base page of each portal, and where this is done, a subpage is no longer needed.

Template:Transclude lead excerpt will be able to be used to put the intro excerpt directly on the portal page, rather than on an intro subpage, once we adapt a portal design to accommodate this.

Template:Transclude random excerpt is currently being used on 1st-level subpages, and eliminates the need for 2nd-level subpages. (Many portals have 2 levels of subpages).

There are about 1500 portals, but there are around 148,000 subpages in portal space. Further discussions are needed to develop designs and components that do not require them.

It is my hope that the portal of the future will be a single page, or close to it, pulling in excerpts from specified dynamic sources (like category pages), filtered by ratings. This would obviate the need for subpages at all (except for maybe the header and footer subpages, which store a portal's settings). A more likely near-term solution would be subpages with a list maintained by a bot, or editors using semi-automatic tools.

New portals

Since the reboot, a new portal has been created:

Portal:Limited recognition

Please watchlist these pages

Some central pages in the portal system. The more eyes on them, the better.

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals
• User:The Transhumanist (there's a fair amount of portal project traffic on my talk page these days)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 1
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 2
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 3
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 4
• Wikipedia:Portal:Portal Example portal. And funny.
• Portal:Contents/Portals
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Culture and the arts
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Geography and places
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Health and fitness
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/History and events
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Infobox
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Intro
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Mathematics and logic
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Natural and physical sciences
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/People and self
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Philosophy and thinking
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Portal nav footer
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Reference
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Religion and belief systems
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Society and social sciences
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Technology and applied sciences
  • Portal:Contents/Portals/Topic

Wrapping up...

There's more in the works, like a rating system, further redesigns, etc. Keep an eye on the discussions on the project's talk page. They should start showing up there soon.

Hope to see you there. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:22, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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In for a penny...?

Hi L3X1,

Thank you for voting/commenting on the RfC at Nextdoor. Since you already dipped your toe into the water, I thought perhaps you might be willing to wade in a bit further. Aside from the RfC to delete the founder traffic accident section, I have done a complete redraft of this weak article.

There are hundreds of sources to choose from including multiple in-depth profiles from some of the bigs, like The New York Times, Wired, The Atlantic, BuzzFeed News, PBS News Hours, NPR and Newsweek. I should be able to get this article up to a "B" and then a "GA" given the depth of sourcing.

You may recall that I'm experienced as a Wikipedia editor, but I'm also paid consultant to Nextdoor. So all my work needs to be well scrutinized prior to publication as per WP: COI. I make a point of playing by the rules. My proposal for the redraft is here: Talk:Nextdoor#Request_for_Review

IMHO, it's pretty obvious that my draft is a substantial improvement to what's there now, although it can always get better, and both at this stage, and when it's finally live, I will seek plenty of peer review to try to get it to GA.

I say "wade in" because it would be very helpful if you could opine in the discussion as to whether you believe the draft is indeed a step up (or not) and what you'd change. I looked through the history of the article and one editor has been deleting content and reliable sourcing for about 4 years now, which is partially why this article is in sad shape. The editor has emerged again in the discussion to oppose changes to the article, so some sort of consensus needs to be reached, I think. Perhaps you might offer your two cents? I have approached everyone appearing on the Talk page with a similar request.

Another experienced editor has already weighed in to support the redraft.

If you had time to dive in and actually go through the draft with an eye toward overseeing the publication after I've made any changes requested, that would be even better.

Thanks,

Ed BC1278 (talk) 19:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)BC1278

• I'll be glad to take a look. ^{cinco de} L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 20:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

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WikiProject Portals update, 11 May 2018

We've grown to 73 members, and morale is high. Thank you for joining. Here is some news, and some tasks...

The RfC will be closed soon...

2018-05-11: preparations are being made to close the RfC. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure#Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals.

When there, be sure to notice the consultation link.

We're trying to get a prototypical single-page portal developed in time to show the RfC closers before they make their final decision. You can help. It's Portal:Humanism. So far, we've applied selective transclusion (automation) to excerpts, and have made the following sections without subpages: intro, selected article, selected biography, categories, related portals, wikiprojects, things to do, and wikimedia. Eight down, 4 to go, plus 2 formatting subpages (not sure we can migrate those). Automating every section, would also be nice.

Main objectives

Our main objectives currently, are:

1. Replace static excerpts with selective transclusions, so that the excerpts always stay fresh (that is, match the source content). We are now doing this on the portal base page as much as possible, to reduce the number of subpages that are needed. See #2...
2. Migrate the functions of subpages to the portal base pages. There are around 150,000 subpages in portal space. We aim to make these obsolete by using templates and other calls from the portal base pages.
3. Improve portal design to make portals self-update. Semi-dynamic sections update from a static list, as used in {{Transclude random excerpt}}. Fully-dynamic sections would update from a list maintained elsewhere on Wikipedia, like a category. We haven't found a way to do this yet, other than to create a bot (which we will probably need to do).

Maintenance pass #1: Upgrading the intro section

The intro section of many portals transcludes an "Intro" subpage that has an excerpt in it.

We're replacing that with a selective transclusion directly in the intro section, bypassing the subpage. Though, there's a little more to it...

For instructions, see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Transclude intro excerpt directly on the portal base page.

Please skip Portal:American Civil War, as that is specifically being maintained by hand.

Maintenance pass #2: Obsoleting the Wikimedia subpages

One of the sections on many portals links to sister projects on the subject. This needlessly takes a subpage. The subpage can be made obsolete by using the template {{Wikimedia for portals}} directly on the portal base page.

This has been done for several hundred portals so far.

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Obsolete a Wikimedia subpage for instructions.

Maintenance pass #3: calling the category tree from the portal base page

Certes figured out how...

{{subst:Text|<category|tree>}}{{subst:PAGENAME}}{{subst:Text|</categorytree>}}

For more information, see the thread Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Rendering PAGENAME inside categorytree tag doesn't work (it does now).

More to come...

In the meantime, see ya around the portals!    — The Transhumanist   15:48, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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