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This Month in Education: January 2022

This Month in Education
Volume 11 • Issue 1 • January 2022

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Question from Gsajjwellman (14:40, 25 January 2022)

Good afternoon my name is James Wellman I have been a member since we can pay the first got started but for some reason my account has been deleted because I would have only used two emails and that would have been [THIS] or yahoo.com. why would this have happened --Gsajjwellman (talk) 14:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Gsajjwellman. For copyright reasons, accounts at Wikipedia do not get deleted, meaning it's likely you lost access to your original account. If you remember your original username and that account had an email registered to it, you can try to reset your password. If that account did not have an email (or you forgot the username) then it's likely you won't gain access to it. You are more than welcome to contribute using your new account. Isabelle ^🔔 23:25, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Good closure

at Wikipedia talk:Role of Jimmy Wales#RfC on Jimmy Wales' reserve powers over ArbCom. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 21:38, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Nominate them for admin. Barkeep49 might also support. Jehochman ^Talk 21:47, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

That's very kind of you two. I don't think I'm the best at making calls of early closes, but in that case it was clearly not productive. Isabelle ^🔔 00:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I hope it is clear that this was a good faith attempt at clarifying something I believed to be vague but substantial, and not an attempt to waste the community's time or create a solution in search of a problem. Otherwise I agree that the RfC derailed and that a snow close was absolutely appropriate here. Colonestarrice (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Colonestarrice: I hope my words in the closing statement (or here, really) did not seem harsh towards you. I'm positive you created that thread in good faith, but due to the nature of the topic, it quickly began to, as they say, create more heat than light. Thanks for leaving your point of view here. Isabelle ^🔔 20:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	You beat me in reverting vandals' edits, most recently here. Congratulations! Severestorm28 00:13, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for the barnstar, Severestorm28, as well for helping revert vandalism! Isabelle ^🔔 00:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Citations for Diep article

You sent me a message stating that my edits on the "Diep.io" article were removed due to not having a citation. However, as it is a niche gaming community, communication from the developers to the community is done through Discord and sporadically through Reddit. As such, it will be difficult to cite my sources. However, if you go on the diep.io subreddit or the discord, my additions are common knowledge. If you choose not to reinstate my edits, please reply with additional guidelines for the situation. Thank you! Xeroblade (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2022 (UTC)Xeroblade

Hi Xeroblade. Thanks for wanting to improve an article and for contacting me. Even though your information might be true, at Wikipedia we are guided by verifiability and what reliable sources say about a subject. If the information you want to add to an article has not been published by a tertiary source (such as a news website), then that piece of information should not be added to the article. If you have any further questions about how Wikipedia works, feel free to ask me. Isabelle ^🔔 01:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. Would this be considered a tertiary source? https://medium.com/udonis/addicting-games-acquires-diep-io-a-2d-arena-game-7774a78015cb Xeroblade (talk) 02:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)Xeroblade

@Xeroblade: According to this summary of the community's view of Medium as a source, Medium is considered to be generally unreliable due to being a blog hosting service, meaning we should not use it as a source. I did find this source, which might be useful. Isabelle ^🔔 02:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Asian Hate

Stop erasing facts 2603:6011:6224:1800:85D1:76D1:E49E:2E5F (talk) 21:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Your edits are being reverted as there is no consensus to add that paragraph, plus the fact your adding biased and unsourced information to articles. Isabelle ^🔔 21:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Question from Socratesart on Melvin Rader (21:19, 20 January 2022)

Hello, re: Melvin Rader article the Major works heading and section should not be in the References section, but I do not know how to correct this as the References is generated from a REFLIST template --Socratesart:talk 21:19, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Socratesart. I've fixed the error here. It appears that someone misplaced a reference tag. Thanks for helping improve the project! In case you have any questions about how to edit Wikipedia, feel free to ask them here. Isabelle ^🔔 01:25, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. that fixed issue I asked about. Note: Rader's A Modern Book of Aesthetics, which is already cited in Works list, was originally published in 1952, not 1973 as cited, and every edition was changed significantly up to the Fifth ed, published in 1980, as Rader responded to changes in the field. But this might count as original research. The footnote I added for fifth edition is for the statement of being used as a text for decades in college aesthetics courses.09:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Socratesart:talk

@Socratesart: Thanks for further improving the article by fixing some mistakes presents in the biography. If you are interested in working on it further, you can always search and add reliable sources to the article to expand the information we have about the person. Isabelle ^🔔 13:08, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, IsabelleSocratesart:talk 02:02, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

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Help from a Teacher

Hi Isabelle,

I'm a middle school English teacher. Today, I was giving a class on the correct and incorrect way to use Wikipedia in writing essays, namely in using the sources that Wikipedia users share directly rather than just citing it directly myself.

Part of that lesson was demonstrating directly how users can edit Wikipedia pages. It was obviously vandalism saying, "Mr. Davis is awesome." I totally get that and totally get why you dinged me. If you look at my edit history (I have no idea if you have access to that), it will show that I always delete the edits quickly, within a few minutes.

The fact that I can make edits and they appear on my students' devices has always been a really powerful tool for me to make my point about fact checking Wikipedia sources. I'm wondering if you can help me in learning of any way I can do this very, very limited and controlled activity that I always fix for no other purpose than classroom demonstration.

Any help you can give in directing me towards a solution that doesn't put me at odds with the mods would be very helpful. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathankdavis1 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Jonathankdavis1. Although we appreciate you teaching your students how to properly use Wikipedia, it would be better if it was done in a way that didn't cause disruption to the article. I'm sure you'll find much better help at the teahouse from more experienced editors, but my suggestion would be to either make such demonstrative edits in a personal sandbox (such as Jonathankdavis1/sandbox) or by having prepared constructive edits (for example, try to find an article that contains a few typos the day before and fix those during class). You can also go to an article's history (such as Special:History/Vans) and look for old vandalism to use as an example in your class. Isabelle ^🔔 19:41, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

bias

you make bias by say ottoman decline remove alleged. you are bias. add word alleged is not bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.36.219.202 (talk) 04:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Please read WP:ALLEGED, which explains the word "can imply that a given point is inaccurate". Isabelle ^🔔 12:52, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Dhsenid (08:28, 15 February 2022)

how to create a biography profile --Dhsenid (talk) 08:28, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Dhsenid and welcome to Wikipedia! Creating a new article can be a challenging task, due to all the policies and guidelines one must follow, so I'd recommend you first familiarize yourself with them by helping around in already existing biographies, by doing small corrections, adding missing sources and so on. If you do still feel like creating an article, you can read Help:Your first article, which lays out all the rules you must be aware of. Isabelle ^🔔 13:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Anti-Vandalism

Thank you for the help with handling vandalism this morning it makes it a bit easier for me hope you have a good day! SkyeWolf369 (talk) 14:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the words, SkyeWolf369! You kinda get used to this kind of thing, but it's always upsetting. Isabelle ^🔔 14:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Michael H (9:36, 15 February 2022)

Hi. Hope this is the right way to contact you.

You just reverted my edit on Tolkien and Race, concerning the moral geography of Middle-earth, citing a lack of source. I'm not sure I understand why underlining all the things wrong with that argument requires an external source when the argument is self-contained? The moral geography theory is faulty simply because it ignores all the things Tolkien published that doesn't fit into it. It's in Tolkien's writings; it's simply a flawed theory.

I could write a blog post about it, saying the same thing, and link to that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.181.155 (talk • contribs)

Hi Michael. Thanks for wanting to improve Wikipedia, but it's important to understand that we do not publish what could be classified as original research. Without giving a reliable source, it appears that you were adding your own opinion to the article, which is against our policies. For the most part, we simply write what other, secondary sources say about a subject. If you do have sources other than yourself that share that point of view, you are more than welcome to add them to the article. Isabelle ^🔔 14:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Isabelle, that's helpful. Although I will say that when something is literally inherent to the material the page is about, it's slightly strange for it to require another source. Tolkien IS the source, his works are the source here. The moral geography 'theory' is a best a very simplistic reading of Tolkien and at worst simply poorly researched, and all one has to do is glance at Tolkien's writings which disprove it out of hand. But point taken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.181.155 (talk) 17:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Although the paragraph you've added does indeed appear to be original research, you can always attempt to start a new discussion on the article's talk page about whether that theory has merit enough to be included in the article, under WP:DUE. It appears to be cited entirely to a single source, but I don't know the strength of that source (i.e. the author's notability and area of expertise), but it's something that might be worth discussing, especially if you can find reliable, secondary sources that criticize or counter it. I hope this answers your questions. If you have any other doubts, feel free to ask. Isabelle ^🔔 18:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

RfC closure

Dear Isabelle, many thanks for the time allocated to reviewing this RfC case. You concluded that "status quo prevails". May I highlight to your attention that the article was much more stable before the arbitrary addition that started chain of edit wars? Here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1061708104?diffmode=source To avoid getting dragged into the edit war, I created the RfC instead. Now I am afraid treating the unstable version achieved by edit warring behaviour as status quo, and encouraging maintenance of it, may teach a wrong lesson. --Armatura (talk) 23:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

We have an essay for that WP:WRONGVERSION. It takes at least two to have an edit war. Think it over. If you are right, you should be able to convince others. If not, you have to accept the results. Jehochman ^Talk 23:35, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

There is also an article about Illusory truth effect, Jehochman, and that one is not a humorous essay I am afraid. My question is directed to a specific user, and is about a specific case, not about general sophisms, thanks for your understanding. --Armatura (talk) 00:30, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Armatura, thanks for contacting. Before closing I did a brief research to see if the mention of "Hiroshima of the Caucasus" had been present for enough time in the article to be considered the status quo. Using WikiBlame, I saw that it was first mentioned in the lede December 2020, and a random spot check showed me it was still in the article late 2021. Another search, done just now, shows that "Caucasian Hiroshima" was present in 2017. My understanding, then, was that this term (and variations) appear to be the status quo (though its location seem to vary between body and lede). If you are worried this will prompt further edit wars, I'd recommend following my advice to see if a consensus to move it to the body, where it would have less prominence, can be achieved.

Thanks for that link, Jehochman. It is quite true that a version will always be the wrong one when consensus can't be found among editors. Isabelle ^🔔 23:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your analysis, Isabelle. Can you please guide me towards the Wikipedia policy that says if one sees an insertion recurring in the article, whether it is due or undue, whether it is a political chip or not, it is status quo and should therefore be maintained just because there are enough people pushing it. Thanks, I am eager to learn. --Armatura (talk) 00:42, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Armatura: I'm not sure I follow your point. From where I stand, that statement (or variants of it) has been present in the article for what appears to be a long time, and per WP:NOCON, the version that remains in the article is the one that was there before the discussion took place. Looking over the last 50 edits in the article, which go back to December 2021, all of them contain "Hiroshima of the Caucasus". I'm not convinced that the status quo is incorrect in this case. My best recommendations to you is to go to WP:NPOV/N or WP:FRINGE/N, if you believe this statement fails our policies, go to WP:RS/N, if you believe the sources used are not up to par in that specific case (a point that was raised by some participants), or to open a closure review over at WP:AN, per WP:CLOSECHALLENGE. If you have any other questions relating to the closure, I'd be more than happy to answer. Isabelle ^🔔 01:12, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

I may use one these options, thanks for outlining them for me, Isabelle. --Armatura (talk) 01:41, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Books of Wonder

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Congrats! Firefangledfeathers 16:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Your source was of huge help! Now to wait for my friend to return to NYC so I can pester them for a photo. Isabelle ^🔔 16:56, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For your work combatting the botnet spam. Sea Cow (talk) 00:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Irish123jjj on Wikipedia:New user landing page (20:20, 20 February 2022)

Why can’t I make a page for this player --Irish123jjj (talk) 20:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Irish123jjj, and welcome to Wikipedia. I don't see any other contributions associated to this account, so it is possible that you might have not saved your attempt at creating a new page, or did so while editing anonymously. In either case, the Wikipedia:New user landing page contains buttons that will lead you to places where you can start editing articles or creating pages, such as your sandbox. Isabelle ^🔔 21:03, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Kiwifruit

You say that my change to state that the North American and Continental European usage of "Kiwi" to describe a kiwifruit is not neutral. A Kiwi is a flightless bird endemic to New Zealand. To call a kiwifruit a kiwi is simply incorrect. Descriptive words matter. I am from New Zealand and I find this ugly and offensive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sea-ferring (talk • contribs) 14:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sea-ferring: I'm sorry you feel that way, but that's not reason to remove valid information from an article. I guess you could say it's not sourced in the lede, but it's likely to be a WP:SKYISBLUE kind of information. Isabelle ^🔔 14:29, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Joshua wonder 4172 (19:12, 26 February 2022)

Hello everyone.I appreciate the opportunity to work with you and your organisation --Joshua wonder 4172 (talk) 19:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Joshua wonder 4172, and welcome to Wikipedia! I've left a message on your talk page with some very useful links for learning how to edit here, but feel free to ask me any questions you might have. Isabelle ^🔔 19:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

March editathons

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This Month in Education: February 2022

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This Month in Education

Volume 11 • Issue 2 • February 2022

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Question from Narendra.neeraj (11:33, 28 February 2022)

Hello, Belato Please assist me in establishing myself as an administrator and page builder for others. --Narendra.neeraj (talk) 11:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Narendra.neeraj. If you just want to keep creating articles, there is no need to become an administrator, as they have no special say on whether a subject is notable or not (though they are experienced enough and trusted by the community to know these things). You can read more about the role of administrators on Wikipedia here. If you need help creating articles, I suggest you check the general notability guide, which gives a brief explanation of what makes something or someone notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia. Isabelle ^🔔 13:51, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello Belato,

Appreciate your reply, regarding the page i want to create was deleted several times in last previous years.

Below is the logs(details) of the page i want to create. Please suggest if I can create this page again and shall not be deleted due to below reason.

Thanks for your kind support.

This page does not exist. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

• 01:05, 4 January 2021 Michael Greiner talk contribs protected Souman Bose [Create=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Repeatedly recreated) (thank)
• 01:02, 4 January 2021 Michael Greiner talk contribs deleted page Souman Bose (G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Souman Bose (2nd nomination)) Tag: Twinkle (thank)
• 02:33, 8 November 2020 Czar talk contribs deleted page Souman Bose (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Souman Bose (2nd nomination) (XFDcloser)) (thank)
• 21:23, 23 April 2015 Just Chilling talk contribs deleted page Souman Bose (G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion) (thank)
• 00:52, 18 February 2015 MelanieN talk contribs deleted page Souman Bose (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Souman Bose) (thank)
• 03:02, 4 July 2013 Acroterion talk contribs deleted page Souman Bose (G2: Test page) (thank)

Narendra.neeraj (talk) 07:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Narendra.neeraj: Since it has been deleted in an WP:AFD (twice), it's likely that, if you want to create an article on this subject, you will need to show it meets WP:NACTOR and likely WP:GNG. My advise would be to look for another subject to write about, as it's unlikely that much has changed in one year. Isabelle ^🔔 13:08, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For catching that sock of 22Aug (yes I know that's not their actual username, although typing it out like that makes me think they made their username a date) on my talk page. I might just have to add a template or something to my talk page saying not to trout/whale me without a good reason. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 04:00, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

No worries and thanks for the barnstar, Blaze! Not sure the template would work, but it can always give it a try. Isabelle ^🔔 11:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

A simple question

Hello Isabelle. Have you stopped editing on ptwiki? Best regards. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 13:05, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there A.WagnerC. Ever since the IP editing debacle I've stopped editing the Portuguese Wikipedia, though I do check it from time to time. Isabelle ^🔔 13:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I see. Good luck then. I'm here too sometimes. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 03:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@A.WagnerC: It's nice to see you here! If you ever need help with a project or article, here or at ptwiki, feel free to drop me a message. Isabelle ^🔔 03:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

RfC Closure - General Franco

I am following the procedure that says that before requesting a move review: please attempt to discuss the matter with the closer of the page move discussion on the closer's talk page. Franco has two main biographers in the english speaking world. Paul Preston and Stanley Payne. Paul Preston could not be clearer. Payne argues that "Franco never defined a formal ideology and throughout his regime used what he wanted from the ideas of others", Payne agrees that until 1943 the Franco regime was semi-fascist, but the regime lasted 40 year more until 1973. The article is on the man not on the regime, not about Francoism. But even Francoism being labeled as Fascism is a POV. Whether Franco’s regime was actually fascist is contentious and subject to an ongoing debate.J Pratas (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi J Pratas, and thanks for coming to my talk page. I am aware of the arguments you present above, as they were the main point of contention against adding the "fascist" categories and navbox during the discussion. My reading of the RfC is that, although there is a lively debate over whether Franco is a fascist or not, plenty of reliable sources do label him clearly as such, while others see him within that spectrum (with very compelling arguments by those in favor of the categories concerning the two cited scholars). While reading everything, I did grow worried that verifiability and neutrality could be an issue, but I was assuaged by the fact that subject is discussed in the article. Since you are not presenting new points of view here, I'm not convinced a reclose is needed. My suggestion is that you follow through with the WP:CLOSECHALLENGE and bring this matter to WP:AN, where the broader community can decide on it. Isabelle ^🔔 17:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

What is the source saying that Franco was a Fascist ? I see Preston saying Not Fascit, I see Payne saying Not fascist, I see Felipe Ribeiro de Meneses saying Not Fascist, David Gilmour saying Not Fascist, I see Tusell saying Franco lacked a defined ideology,etc.. and I also see that is regime was , for a brief period semi-fascist, but I dont see any sources with the same weight saying that Franco, the man, was Fascist. Can you point those sources?J Pratas (talk) 18:07, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@JPratas: Sorry, that's entirely my bad. When closing I misremembered that the label is usually applied by reliable sources to his regime, and should clarify that, so I will be editing my close. Thanks for helping me notice that mistake. Despite that, I've now reread the discussion and will note that at least a few sources were presented that affirm Franco is within the fascist spectrum, as I've mentioned before. I think I mentioned in my close that discussion among participants showed that interpretation varies, and most agree with the one that paints Franco as a fascist ruler. Isabelle ^🔔 18:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Isabelle, which sources paints Franco as a Fascist ruller? Payne says that labeling Franco as Europe's last surviving Fascist dictator was a remarkable hyperbole. Payne makes an important distinction between those cases where a fascist leader becames head of the government (Italy, Germany, Greece), those regimes embracing parts of the fascist component but headed by conservative figures (Spain), because the leader needs to put the fascist movement under his control. More than twenty years after his death , Franco has still eluded precise definition save in the vague and general categories of "dictator" and "authoritarian"  (See>Stanley G. Payne, Fascism in Spain, 1923–1977, p.476)J Pratas (talk) 18:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@JPratas: I understand you disagree with some of the analysis offered by the other participants, as well as sources that are not Payne or Preston. I've now reread my close as well as sections of the discussion, and it seems like you are simply treading the same ground here as you did there. I believe I took into consideration all the viewpoints of the discussion in my closure, and explained those in my closure. Since your disagreement here is based on the same arguments presented in the discussion, I again recommend you bring this to AN so that the community can weight on the matter. Isabelle ^🔔 19:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Will do Isabelle. I was just asking you for the sources that made up your mind. Wikipedia relies on reliable sources. A good closer will transparently explain how the decision was reached and I cannot see that in your text. You are not supposed to count heads but to weight the sources. You are also saying that there is agreement that Fascism is an important part of this person's politics but I dont see that. I see other relevant editors saying the opposite. I see many frivolous editors saying yes and then quoting a source that in fact says the opposit. I am wondering if you noticed that there is a separate section titled "What do the sources say on Franco being, or not being a Fascist".J Pratas (talk) 19:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I'd rather not discuss sources here for two reasons: first, they are already present in the RfC, and second because it would likely lead to a discussion over whether that source is correct/valid or not, which should've been discussed during the RfC. As the closer, I have to offer a fair assessment of the discussion and see what conclusion one can reach from it. Refuting sources or points raised by participants, unless due to policy, could be seen as a WP:SUPERVOTE. Isabelle ^🔔 20:15, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Isabelle, out of courtesy I would like to let you know that following your suggestion I did challenge your closing. Besides the several flaws in the closing, in my view you end up taking sides. You forgot that "The closer’s role is solely to find out what the participants have decided". No hard feelings from my side, I assume good faith, a thank you for your contribution. J Pratas (talk) 21:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate the notification, J Pratas. I'll leave my input there if or when needed. Isabelle ^🔔 23:38, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Barnstar of Diplomacy
		I rarely award barnstars or the like on Wikipedia, in fact you can count the number I've awarded on one hand. Having seen your masterful closure of the RfC at Francisco Franco you clearly deserve one. WCMemail 06:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks WCM, that means a lot to me! My hope with every close is to have all participants satisfied with the reasoning given, even when the result is not what they want, and I hope I achieved that here. Thanks again. Isabelle ^🔔 11:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to second this, and commend you for your patience dealing with the griping below. Exemplary editorship. Generalrelative (talk) 18:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Generalrelative, words of encouragement are always welcome! Isabelle ^🔔 21:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Oleiros

Hi, you reverted an edition i made saying that there was a 1881 book describing the town. I found the book here: https://www.lulu. com/en/us/shop/joao-maria-pereira-damaral-e-pimentel/memorias-da-villa-de-oleiros-e-do-seu-concelho/paperback/product-wne9r6.html?page=1&pageSize=4 but somehow it does not allow me to add this as a reference. Can you help, please

Thanks; Marceneiro1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marceneiro1 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Marceneiro1! If you and to add a citation to an article, please read this introduction to citing or follow the instructions at {{cite book}}. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Isabelle ^🔔 21:54, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from AliaLens (00:25, 8 March 2022)

Hi! Thank you for writing Isabelle. I have a question about Creative Commons stuff. I am a photographer and I want to contribute my work. Is there a manual of style for media contributions? --AliaLens (talk) 00:25, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi AliaLens, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you want to help by uploading your own, original work, you should consider visiting our sister project, Wikimedia Commons. While users can upload non-free files to the English Wikipedia under the fair use criteria, it's recommended you upload freely licensed files at Commons. I recommend you take a look at their tutorial on why and how to upload files there. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask them here. Isabelle ^🔔 00:32, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Exovent (19:26, 8 March 2022)

Hi Isabelle thank you so much for kindly offering to mentor.

I am hoping to create a wiki page for the charity which I founded Exovent (www.exovent.org). I have lots of refernces I can cite. Am I correct in understanding that before creating a page I should first edit other pages? Any advice or help would be most welcome :) --Exovent (talk) 19:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Exovent, and welcome to Wikipedia. You are correct that we recommend new users to edit pages before they create a new article, this way they can get used to the tools, policies and guidelines of the project. Before you continue, though, I must warn you that writing (be it editing or creating new articles) about a subject you have a personal or financial connection with is highly discouraged. See our guidelines on what it means to have a conflict of interest and how to proceed. Other than that, we would be more than happy to have you help around, and you can do so by visiting a WikiProject in an area that interests you or by visiting the maintenance page, which has a list of activities one can participate in. Isabelle ^🔔 19:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Radiocacaph (12:23, 14 March 2022)

hi I want to create a page for our company --Radiocacaph (talk) 12:23, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, Radiocacaph. My recommendation is that you first read our guidelines on conflict of interests, which give clear explanations on how to proceed. You should also consider asking for a change of username in the case that yours resemble, in any way, the name of your company. Having done all that, you should go to the articles for creation page, which is the process you must go through if you want to create a page. Isabelle ^🔔 13:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Radiocacaph (talk) 02:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Dandoghi on Wikipedia:Protection policy (18:25, 15 March 2022)

Hello. Can I please obtain information about the following aspects: - reason why the initial term Roma, used to describe this ethnic group was replaced in this article with the term Romani - what was the methodology and criteria used to undergo such important change and when this process happened: - who from the Roma community were actually consulted on this matter and how public and transparent the process was in this regard. Thank you! --dandoghi (talk) 18:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, dandoghi! As a mentor, I try to answer questions about how to edit Wikipedia. Since I do not know anything about the topic you are asking, I've moved your question to the Reference desk, a place where other editors will be able to help you. More specifically, your question can be found here. Hopefuly someone there will be able to answer your questions. Isabelle ^🔔 19:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Lolkafka1888 (02:13, 22 March 2022)

Hi Blaze! Hope you're well. I want to create a disambiguation page --a page I created has a similar name to an existing one. Do you know how to do it?

Thanks,

lolkafka --Lolkafka1888 (talk) 02:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Lolkafka1888! I assume you were temporarily assigned to me as Blaze Wolf is taking a break for now. To answer your question, there are two main ways to do this: if there is only one other person with the same or similar name, you can simply add a hatnote to the article pointing the reader to the similar page (you can see an example here). Now, if there are more people with the same name, you can create a disambiguation page, such as Christopher Lee (disambiguation). For more information, take a look at Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Isabelle ^🔔 12:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Arash nassouri (16:47, 23 March 2022)

hi --Arash nassouri (talk) 16:47, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Arash nassouri (16:53, 23 March 2022)

hi i just want to know for edite a topic of an article there is no option , i meas for this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Hawaiʻi_(organization) wich will show Nation of hawai'e (Organazation) i want to amend it to : The Nation of hawai'e (Sovereign and independent nation) but i can not or i do not know how to do it. can you lindly advice? best regards arash --Arash nassouri (talk) 16:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Arash nassouri, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm not sure if you want to change the content of the article, its title or both, but, regardless of which change you wish to apply, I recommend two things: first of all, find reliable sources that verify the information you want to modify (that is, sources that treat the Nation of Hawaiʻi not as an organization but as an actual independent nation); secondly, you want to start a discussion at the article's talk page, where you can present those sources and suggest your change (in a clear manner) and other editors will be able to weight on it. Isabelle ^🔔 17:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Praise

This is your only notice, if you revert vandalism before I do again, you may be awarded barnstars without further notice.

You've already ninjaed me thrice today! Good job! InterstateFive (talk) - just another roadgeek 23:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Haha, very cheeky. I feel you, though, sometimes people are so fast (or there are so many patrollers) that I sometimes just take a break to patrol later. Thanks for the "warning", InterstateFive! Isabelle ^🔔 23:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

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You’ve removed a factual comment I uploaded regarding Caroline Dubois? Why have you suddenly become an expert on the Uk female boxing scene?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yakuza79 (talk • contribs)

Hi Yakuza79. I reverted your edit because you did not supply a reliable source alongside the statement made. Isabelle ^🔔 20:04, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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Sorry I have a question. EilloRm (talk) 17:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

I need to tell you something. EilloRm (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

It's about the horror film article someone created a 2010s to present section for no reason it doesn't make sense and unsourced could you possibly restore the 2010s section and the 2020s section on there? EilloRm (talk) 17:27, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

If you have a content issue related to a specific article, use that article's talk page to discuss about it with other interested editors. Otherwise, WP:BEBOLD. Isabelle ^🏳‍🌈 17:29, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Tried to but this idiot user MrOllie keeps erasing it I'm afraid to do it. EilloRm (talk) 17:35, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Can you fix the horror film article? EilloRm (talk) 17:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

They can't, because they're banned from Wikipedia and now pretty much just show up with sockpuppet accounts to harass people. See Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Jinnifer. - MrOllie (talk) 17:39, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, MrOllie. I assumed they were evading some block after their last comments here. Have they been reported yet? Isabelle ^🏳‍🌈 17:41, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes MrOllie mistakes users for someone else. EilloRm (talk) 17:41, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes he's wrong I need your help. EilloRm (talk) 17:42, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

You have to be careful. EilloRm (talk) 17:44, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Gurrjitsinghkholli (11:31, 2 April 2022)

Hello how do post my personal profile over wikipedia as i am politican --Gurrjitsinghkholli (talk) 11:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Chowhan67 (16:01, 4 April 2022)

hi good evening ,.y mentor. what is your qualifications and profession --Chowhan67 (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Chowhan67, and welcome to Wikipedia! My "qualifications" as a mentor is knowledge of the policies and guidelines a new editor must learn to be able to edit and create pages in a collaborative manner and my interests are in queer children's literature. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me. Isabelle ^🔔 17:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

AIV

Hello! Sorry to bother you on your talk page, just wanted to let you know that I added an AIV report here, on the IP that keeps vandalizing Martin Luther King Jr. assassination conspiracy theories page. Just wanted to let you know, I noticed you also reported them. Thanks! SPF121188 ^{(talk this way) (contribs)} 14:18, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that.. the IP you reported was different. Sorry about that! SPF121188 ^{(talk this way) (contribs)} 14:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem! Huggle tries to check for duplicate reports, but I imagine it's possibly to still happen. Either way, I believe a bot clerks the page to make sure those get removed so not to cause admins to waste time, so no need to worry when that does happen. Isabelle ^🏳‍🌈 14:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)