User talk:Gadfium/Archive 23
Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).
|
|
|
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.
Technical news
- Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).
Arbitration
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community. - The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles
.
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
New Zealand National Party
editHi Gadfium. I received your message "Latest revision as of 06:55, 14 April 2019". I don't remember ever editing the New Zealand National Party page, or even ever going there at all — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.70.45.250 (talk)
- I left that message over a year ago, I appreciate that you are unlikely to be the same user of the IP address as the person I was attempting to warn. You can disregard the warning.-gadfium 08:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- The best thing you can do to avoid situations like this is to get yourself an account. It’s free! Schwede66 09:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Heartland New Zealand Party
editThe information contained in the post regards the Heartland New Zealand Party is incorrect. I am the party secretary for the Heartland New Zealand party. Mr Harry Mowbray has no affiliation to the Heartland New Zealand Party and the party is not anti the environment. The edits that I made to this page were a true reflection of the Heartland New Zealand Party and those things that the party stands for as shown on the Heartland New Zealand Party website[1].--ALoader (talk) 02:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- If Stuff has details wrong, please take it up with them. We go by independent and reliable sources, and Stuff is generally accurate. Alternatively, you could find an alternate reliable source and post a link to it on the article talk page. Unfortunately, we cannot take the party's own website as an independent and reliable source as all political parties are in the business of promoting themselves.
- Since you are the party secretary, you should not be editing any article about the party. I have already given a link to our conflict of interest guidelines on your talk page.-gadfium 02:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for macronising wētā!
edit
Just noticed you're on a roll fixing all the wētā usages in Wikipedia – thanks so much! When I was looking through references I found a variety of spellings in published papers – wetas, weta, and wētā – and some researchers regrettably still aren't using macrons. Perhaps even Weta Workshop will make a change now... —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 06:51, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks are due from me, too. Just for fun, I've grabbed one of the Weta logos that you wouldn't be able to copyright and added the missing macrons to it. Any thoughts what creative ideas this could be used for? Schwede66 08:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- An alternative would be to take the existing logo, remove the wētā picture, and add a poop emoji in its place... -gadfium 09:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- That got a hearty belly laugh out of me! Schwede66 09:08, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- An alternative would be to take the existing logo, remove the wētā picture, and add a poop emoji in its place... -gadfium 09:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Onekawa
editOnekawa is a suburb in Napier but also a pa site between opotiki and whakatane. The photo is of the pa site which is not mentioned in the article.
- Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I'll remove the photo from Onekawa (the suburb), and see if I can find a place for it elsewhere.-gadfium 06:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Ernest
editHey Gadfium, thank you for letting me know of the situation, but it appears that his real name is Earnest Rutherford, which was in a Biography that was by him, I can forward it if you like
-nzdf1985 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NZDF1985 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- The place to raise it is at Talk:Ernest Rutherford.-gadfium 09:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).
Administrator changes
Oversight changes
Guideline and policy news
- There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
- Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
- Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
- There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.
New article could do with your magic
editKia ora Gadfium, hope all's well. I stated in a new article that "few people live permanently in Milford Sound." I wonder whether you could run your magic script and replace that feeble statement with something of more authority. Much appreciated. Schwede66 19:16, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunately Milford Sound doesn't have its own area unit, and is part of the huge area unit of Fiordland. I'll have to look at meshblock data, and I have no time today. I'll do something with it tomorrow.-gadfium 19:20, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. There's no hurry with it. After all, they've never had an article before... Schwede66 23:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Regarding chess player pages
editHi Gadfium. Unfortunately again some changes are being made to chess players pages , this time Kasparov , as far as highlighting his standing in ches history. I suspect this is done becuase the person doing this favours other players (i.e Fischer) and is trying to minimize other great players like Kasparov and Carlsen. The point of contention is about whether "greatest of all time" should be on Kasparov's page , this has been there for ages and has never bothered anyone until now. There is even a reference from a very well respected chess historian backing it up but apparently that's not enough. exxcalibur808 —Preceding undated comment added 14:35, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see any recent discussion on the article talk page. I suggest that starting one should be your next step. If you find that other editors fail to engage on the talk page, ask for more input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess.-gadfium 18:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
- A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors
must
orshould
use the articles for creation process. - A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.
Arbitration
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.
Drummond
editHi there... That twit who was adding silly stuff to Drummond, New Zealand has created a new account and the silliness is continuing. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- I've blocked them, and the IP at Central Southland College.-gadfium 18:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Kiwi Party (2019) for deletion
edit
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kiwi Party (2019) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiwi Party (2019) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. IdiotSavant (talk) 02:42, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
edit | |
| Two years! |
|---|
Assistance
editHi, please intervene as soon as possible to this discussion: edit warring noticeboard. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hello. Please disregard. Thank you. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 20:37, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
LoganBlade
editLoganBlade (talk · contribs) is requesting unblock at UTRS appeal #34747. I'd like to carry to WP:AN and restore TPA --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- I'm happy for you to restore TPA.-gadfium 18:15, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020).
Administrator changes
Ajpolino • LuK3
Jackmcbarn
Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
There'sNoTime → TheresNoTime
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created
.
- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
Technical news
- The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (phab:T261630).
Arbitration
- The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
- Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.
Miscellaneous
- The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
- Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.
Tova O'Brien
editHi Gadfium, looks like Tova O'Brien is in a bit of an edit war with people playing silly buggers. I've fixed it for now but wanted to see if it should be protected or something? CoronaryKea (talk) 09:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like they, like me, went to sleep overnight. I'll keep an eye on it this morning.-gadfium 17:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- That entire section needs to be removed or rewritten as WP:NPOV. The whole bit is just swinging back and forth between non-neutral opposing views.Teelosdomain (talk) 22:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! CoronaryKea (talk) 03:24, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
ANI
edit
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Schazjmd (talk) 00:37, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not at all surprised at the outcome.-gadfium 03:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Millers Flat
editHello Gadfium. The details in para 3 of this entry are not, in my opinion, historically accurate which is why I attempted to correct this with an amendment. Some of the information about the identity of the body is contained in the coroner's report of a drowning. This report is held by Archives NZ <ref> R24258546 (From: W L Simpson, Justice of the Peace, Mount Benger Date: 8 March 1865 Subject: Inquest proceedings, man unknown, supposed to be Charles Alms ACGS 16211 48/ah 1865/314) <ref>. This is not accurately represented in the present wording which is speculative as to the identity and disposal of the body, and ignores other information concerning the name of the deceased. Th role of the local community in the legend of the "lonely graves" also needs to be highlighted. In many ways discussion on the possible identity of the body is a distraction. Maybe I should attempt a rewording of the 3rd paragraph, with appropriate references, for you to consider? BarachZ (talk) 01:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- You are welcome to correct the article, using the inquest results, but you need to be careful to stick to what the sources actually say, rather than putting your own interpretation of them. Since the inquest is well out of copyright, I see no problem with you quoting it in the article, and that would be helpful to others who don't have access to the archives.
- If you want someone to assist you with editing the article, I suggest someone more local than I would be appropriate. The existing content was added by an anonymous editor in 2009, so we can't ask them. @Grutness: may be willing, or able to suggest someone else.-gadfium 02:36, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'll certainly have a look over you edits to the article... though Miller's Flat's not an area I know that much about (I'm much more familiar with the area between Dunedin and Milton). Grutness...wha? 03:23, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).
|
|
|
Guideline and policy news
- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet
, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.
- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
Technical news
- Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
- Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
- Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.
Arbitration
- The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
- The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.
Miscellaneous
- A reminder that
standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people.
(American Politics 2 Arbitration case).
- A reminder that
ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message
edit| | Hello! Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 7 December 2020. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2020 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add |
Administrators' newsletter – December 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020).
Administrator changes
- Andrwsc • Anetode • GoldenRing • JzG • LinguistAtLarge • Nehrams2020
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- There is a request for comment in progress to either remove T3 (duplicated and hardcoded instances) as a speedy deletion criterion or eliminate its seven-day waiting period.
Technical news
- Voting for proposals in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey, which determines what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year, will take place from 8 December through 21 December. In particular, there are sections regarding administrators and anti-harassment.
Arbitration
- Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 7 December 2020 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.
Coolest cities
editHi Gadfium, I read your message regarding the deletion of statements about coolest cities in the southern hemisphere. What feature did i get wrong about Auckland? Please elaborate on your contention.
The reason why Auckland, Bloemfontien, Santiago, and Maseru all vie for coldest capital cities in the southern hemisphere is that it depends on whether you are looking at average daily temp, highs, lows, monthly mean maximums/minimums, or all-time records. Each of these cities wins in one of these parameters.
As with the source, the source is the temperature data on the city articles themselves, which I also cross-checked with climate graphs of weatherspark.com. So what should be the convention of citing in this case?
Lastly, I think being the coldest capital city in the southern hemisphere is an interesting fact. It is not mentioned in any other article, but it is notable enough that this information should be made available in a public encyclopedia like Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firth m (talk • contribs) 02:16, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Firth m: see WP:OR for why you cannot combine multiple sources to make a claim like this. As to what you got wrong with Auckland, I alluded to it in my edit summary. Auckland hasn't been the capital of New Zealand since 1865.-gadfium 03:03, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Gadfium: Oops, yes, good point that Auckland is not the capital. I should have said "city" rather than "capital". On the point of coldest cities in the Southern Hemisphere, if we can prove via public weather records what cities are the coldest, and cite such data, can we then include such information in Wikipedia? If no one has written an article explicitly about the topic outside Wikipedia, how can this information be brought to the public?
Christchurch Northern Corridor
editHappy new year! Just saw in one of your edit summaries from a couple of days ago a comment about the Christchurch Northern Corridor. Please note that it isn't / won't be part of SH1. It is (or will be) part of SH74. Schwede66 19:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, it was just an attempt to be helpful in reverting what was probably a test edit, so I was relying on a memory of a news headline rather than any research. Happy new year to you too, and to any talk page stalkers.-gadfium 20:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2020).
|
|
|
Guideline and policy news
- Speedy deletion criterion T3 (duplication and hardcoded instances) has been repealed following a request for comment.
Technical news
- You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time.
Arbitration
- By motion, standard discretionary sanctions have been temporarily authorized
for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes)
. The effectiveness of the discretionary sanctions can be evaluated on the request by any editor after March 1, 2021 (or sooner if for a good reason). - Following the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, BDD, Bradv, CaptainEek, L235, Maxim, Primefac.
- By motion, standard discretionary sanctions have been temporarily authorized
Māori women weavers
editHi Gadfium, please can you wait for a few hours before tidying articles related to Māori women weavers as we are currently in an edit-a-thon and I just experienced an editing conflict. Many thanks, Pakoire (talk) 03:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Māori content on English Wikipedia
editHi Gadfium, I am reaching out about the suite of Māori related articles on Wikipedia. I wonder if yourself or other editors you may know of would be able to contribute to a discussion about it all. I have seen some of your edits and find it useful to see what you are doing. There are more formed questions that occur to me as I am reading and editing and I would appreciate some collegiality and guidance from difference experience. Could there be a place I could posit questions to start off discussion? I have been using the talk pages but often don't get much of a response, and some of the edits I want to make are quite bold and some are of a structural nature. Pakoire (talk) 09:17, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Pakoire:I don't watchlist every page I edit, so I may not have seen your talk page edits. If you specifically want my (or any other editor's) comments, please ping. The best place for a general discussion on Māori-related articles is at the New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board.-gadfium 18:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks - will do Pakoire (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).
|
|
|
Arbitration
- The standard discretionary sanctions authorized for American Politics were amended by motion to cover
post-1992 politics of United States and closely related people
, replacing the 1932 cutoff.
- The standard discretionary sanctions authorized for American Politics were amended by motion to cover
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2021 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2021, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2021, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Wikipedia has now been around for 20 years, and recently saw its billionth edit!
Ashhurst
editI have lived in Ashhurst 28 years and I know what it's like now daysGadfium — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.189.81.66 (talk • contribs)
- You keep adding an unsourced promotional slogan. That slogan might be acceptable if the local business association uses it, in which case we would add a line such as "The local business association promotes Ashhurst with the slogan ...", but we must have a suitable source. You are also trying to add this to the wrong article, Ashurst which is a disambiguation page which links to several places, including Ashhurst. Frankly this looks like vandalism, and if it isn't vandalism then perhaps you don't understand what you are doing. I suggest you find a different hobby.-gadfium 17:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).
Administrator changes
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
- A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
- A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the
delete-redirectuserright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect. - A request for comment asks if sysops may
place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions
? - There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.
Technical news
- When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
- When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
- There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).
Arbitration
- By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions
authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people.
Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions. - The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed
.
- By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions
Miscellaneous
- Following the 2021 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AmandaNP, Operator873, Stanglavine, Teles, and Wiki13.
Happy First Edit Day!
edit
Have a very happy first edit anniversary!
From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 16:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Note on Mika
editHi Gadfium, just wanted to let you know I'm slowly giving Mika Haka a wee copyedit - noticed the page reads more like an official biography than a wikipedia entry so thought I'd tidy it up here and there over the next few days. Have made a note on the article's talk page of what I propose to do.
The subject is in the news at the moment, and the article seems to have been mostly written by Mika's former Production Assistant at the Mika Foundation, Benjamin Watt, who may get a bit protective, so I wanted to heads you up that I don't have any malicious intent.CoronaryKea (talk)
- Thanks for the note, but I never thought you had any ill intent. Keep up the good work!-gadfium 05:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).
Administrator changes
- Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS
Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
- Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the
delete-redirectuserright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.
Technical news
- When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
- Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)
Arbitration
- A community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure is open until April 25.
In response
editHi User:Gadfium, sent you and email in response to your message. Chris O' Hare (talk) 19:26, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Chris O' Hare: Thanks. Any reason why the list in the email shouldn't be posted to the talk page of the article for use by any editor who wishes to update the article?-gadfium 19:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Chris O' Hare: Thanks again. I have copied the relevant part of your email to Talk:List of Lebanese by net worth.-gadfium 21:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Ta
editI was in bed when I removed the copyvio from Māori culture, going back one edit. Noted my ipad summary changed "copyvio" to "copy is", so thought I'd attend to the version I had left, when I got out of bed. Found you had already fixed it. Tks. Moriori (talk) 20:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Overlinking
editHi, thanks for your contributions. Please note that we take a conservative line on linking in WP. So "suburb" is almost never linked. Nor is "New Zealand", given that it's well-known. WP:OVERLINK has further details. Tony (talk) 03:24, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
John Logan Campbell Link
editHi. I included Whanganui Island not Coromandel in the link partly because the Whanganui Island has the detail of his stay - and the Coromandel page does not. Also Coromandel didn't exist at the time so his visit to it would have been difficult. Whoever looks at Coromandel is going to see nothing. I would have though just quietly directed the reader to Whanganui Island was ideal - No? So what would you suggest then? Is this entry better on the authors talk page or the article talk page? I have never been able to work out what the protocol is. If I used the Article Talk site how would you know that I had edited it ( unless you had bt chance starred it?LawrieM (talk) 21:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- @LawrieM:The two problems with your edit were that first, it was unsourced, and I didn't see any support for it looking at a couple of other biographies of Campbell, and secondly, if a reader clicks on a link called "Coromandel", they would expect to be taken to either the article on Coromandel town or the one on Coromandel peninsula. WP:EASTEREGG explains this in more detail.
- What I would like you to do is to include a source for Campbell arriving at Whanganui Island. I see that at Whanganui Island there is a reference to Whanganui Island, a History: The Town that Never was, but this looks like a self-published book and might not meet our standards at WP:Reliable sources. You give a page number, but not which edition you are using (I can get a copy of either the first edition 1999, or the revised edition of 2007, but these are from different sources). In particular, I would like to see what citation the book gives to support its material. Once the source is established, the link should be direct to Whanganui Island.
- It's fine to post here, but you could also have posted at Talk:John Logan Campbell.
- I have asked you a related question at your talk page on Wikimedia Commons.-gadfium 02:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Response
editHi. I have added in the extra reference now. How does that look? As regards Piesse being " Self Published" - not sure why that is a problem. The booklet includes 27 separate detailed bibliographies, 3 notes, 1 certificate of Title and 4 maps.
- I'm happy with that extra reference. I made a minor alteration to your citation. If you wish to restore your edit to John Logan Campbell, please add this citation, and perhaps for clarity you could say he arrived at Beeson's Island (now called Whanganui Island), or similar. The source says he went to Wellington Harbour before sailing to the Hauraki Gulf, so I suggest you remove the word "first" which suggests that was his initial landing place in New Zealand.-gadfium 04:37, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Very good.Thanks. LawrieM (talk) 05:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).
Administrator changes
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, consensus was found that third party appeals are allowed but discouraged.
- The 2021 Desysop Policy RfC was closed with no consensus. Consensus was found in a previous RfC for a community based desysop procedure, though the procedure proposed in the 2021 RfC did not gain consensus.
Technical news
- The user group
oversightwill be renamed tosuppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.
- The user group
Arbitration
- The community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure was closed, and an initial draft based on feedback from the now closed consultation is expected to be released in early June to early July for community review.
Performing Arts Aotearoa - Wiki Project – funding success
editGreat news. The Wikimedia Foundation gave me the grant for the Performing Arts Aotearoa Wiki-Project. It starts on 17 May 2021 and runs for four months. Thanks for being a volunteer or endorsing it.
Go to the project page for guidance on starting to contribute as an editor. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pakoire/Performing_Arts_Aotearoa_-_Wiki_Project
I will update this project page regularly plus send out weekly updates. The focus of this grant is on quality content on Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. I encourage you to go in-depth and reach out for hints about where to get resources. There is heaps available on-line. Reach out with problems eg. Categories etc
There will be three formal edit-a-thons in Wellington, Auckland and Dunedin. Dates to be confirmed.
You can email me at any time [email protected] or message me on my talk page.
My focus once the project starts will be on getting resources available for editors from organisations, and educating people in organisations on what Wiki platforms are and how and why they can be engaged. Pakoire (talk) 07:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
TheAmoebaSisters
editHello, Gadfium. I reviewed your recent comment on my talk page and am searching to look through your perspective. I thank you very much for commenting because then I can alter my behaviour when I recieve a constructive comment. I did not realise that the article etiquette encompassed such things and am glad you have brought it up with me. I will refrain from re-adding the symbol to the New Plymouth page although I cannot promise to do so for every article. I would like to be able to add my own work, no mater how small and if you really do disagree you can add a comment to my talk page. Thank you for your concern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAmoebaSisters (talk • contribs) 01:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).
Administrator changes
- Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless
- Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)
Guideline and policy news
- Consensus was reached to deprecate Wikipedia:Editor assistance.
- Following a Request for Comment the Book namespace was deprecated.
Technical news
- Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.
Arbitration
- After a Clarification request, the Arbitration Committee modified Remedy 5 of the Antisemitism in Poland case. This means sourcing expectations are a discretionary sanction instead of being present on all articles. It also details using the talk page or the Reliable Sources Noticeboard to discuss disputed sources.
That's not what Euronesian means ?
editEuronesian is a portmanteau word used in Samoa to describe all the people that are not 100% Samoans. It includes "European" but also Chinese origins (or Black American). The proper word for Chinese (mixed) doesn't exist. During the colonial time, Mongoloid was used during census. But now, the official use is only "General Electorate" (they elect 2 MPs at Fono). --RotachZ (talk) 08:35, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- You will need sources.-gadfium 08:37, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- I like very much this kind of reply (without any notification, by the way). There is not one solid source in Euronesian article. As usual. My source is the law of Samoa. Alex Rose is a typical Euronesian, he will bear the Samoan flag at the next Summer Olympics.--RotachZ (talk) 08:40, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Auckland Grammar Notable Staff
editHello, Gadfium. I saw the recent edits you have made to the page about the Notable Staff. The reason as in to why they do not have pages is because if I try to make a page everytime it goes onto auto-deletion. Therefore, it is a hassle. Here in New Zealand or among the auckland/international spectrum they are well known and notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NZDF1985 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 17th July 2021 (NZST)
- @NZDF1985: I don't see any indication that you've attempted to create articles on those people, but I looked at the article you created on Tim O'Connor, and I'm not surprised that it was deleted because it had no sources at all. I suggest you try creating articles in the Draft namespace, or in your sandbox, and you then have a chance to develop them before requesting they be moved to article space.-gadfium 07:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Contact
editHi, can you please contact me urgently on email. I want to contact with a wikipedia administrator but the emails are not showing in the toolbox Alimsadozai69 (talk) 05:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I see that User:Mjroots is handling this.-gadfium 06:26, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).
|
|
|
Guideline and policy news
- Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
- An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.
Technical news
- IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.
Arbitration
- The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.
Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).
|
|
|
Guideline and policy news
- An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.
Technical news
- Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)
Arbitration
- Following an amendment request, the committee has clarified that the Talk page exception to the 500/30 rule in remedy 5 of the Palestine-Israel articles 4 case does not apply to requested move discussions.
Miscellaneous
- You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.
Apologies
editI didn't know that we couldn't comment on the page. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 00:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Discretionary sanction review requested by user
editThis is to make you aware of a arbitration enforcement action appeal by TillermanJimW. See Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by TillermanJimW. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 07:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've added my piece there.-gadfium 08:31, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2021
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).
Administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
- A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
- A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
- A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.
Technical news
- The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.
Arbitration
- A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.
Miscellaneous
- The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.
Marotiri - why are four rocks significant?
editHello, old friend!
Have you read my comment on Talk:Marotiri? France, indeed! If you agree, maybe you have enough clout to be able to change a few relevant pages. Robin Patterson (talk) 23:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't see your comment; I don't watchlist every article I edit. I tend to agree that the community of 327 people with a primary school and a statistical area with over 2,000 people named after it is of more significance that 4 rocks in an isolated area. To make a case for the primary topic would require doing a few internet searches, and the rock article, having been on Wikipedia since 2005, might still win as the better known use of the name. I don't think it's worth the time to make the case. I've added a hatnote to the rock article. The Gisborne mountain doesn't have an article as far as I'm aware, so no hatnote is needed for the locality.-gadfium 00:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- When I come across those things, I usually simply move the article that's hogging the primary topic and use the empty spot for a dab page. But I do check pageviews first, and whilst that's not the be and end all, in this case it does favour the rocks, I'm afraid. Schwede66 00:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
I just requested semi-protection for this page in the light of the attention it is currently attracting. You may want to keep an eye on it in the meantime. 10mmsocket (talk) 09:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, and for your edit to make the page more neutral. Having made two reverts, I'm not planning on taking further action on the page tonight.-gadfium 09:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
edit| | |
| Three years! |
|---|
fka
editI don't particularly care either way but I believe f.k.a. stands for formerly known as. --Pokelova (talk) 08:00, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. It makes sense once explained!-gadfium 08:08, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Aotearoa Daylight Time
editI think the name of Aotearoa Standard Time and Aotearoa Daylight Time are really cool name to me; as second official and alternative name to the New Zealand Standard Time and New Zealand Daylight Time respectively. Nathkogashiwa (talk) 05:27, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- You can't just make up new names for timezones on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write to the New Zealand Government and suggest your new names. If they adopt the names, then of course Wikipedia will cover them.-gadfium 05:42, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
I will say, Wellington, Aotearoa. Isn't acceptable? Cuz I like it as alternative.