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Request on 09:51:58, 10 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Aboutian

• Aboutian (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Financial Institutions Revenue Collection (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please advise what would change this assessment of my article Financial Institutions Revenue Collection (September 10). Your assessment said "This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner." This seems like an almost 'automatic response' but I feel it should not apply to my article. I especially do not understand as it uses almost identical wording to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spahn_tax. In fact, I thought the only possible objection would be that it was too similar - possibly verging on plagiarism - but instead, the Spahn one is fine but mine is not. Any assistance much appreciated.

Aboutian (talk) 09:51, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

@Aboutian: Hello Mr. Daniels. Wikipedia is NOT the place to promote your book or ideas. DO NOT resubmit your ad. Thank-you David.moreno72 10:48, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Abraham Zangen rejection

Hi

This is my first time here - not sure how I can learn of the reason that my proposed page was declines — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamsbrainsway (talk • contribs) 12:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Request on 15:22:29, 10 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by WikiVK

• WikiVK (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mani Higher Secondary School, Coimbatore (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for informing me that the text submitted to Wikipedia "Mani Higher Secondary School, Coimbatore" was rejected on the grounds that the topic was not notable.

My motive in offering this submission arose after recently stumbling upon the Wikipedia page "List of Educational Institutions in Coimbatore". Knowing something about India, where I lived for 30 years and in particular about Coimbatore city, I was horrified to find that Mani HS School was not even listed. It is one of the oldest institutions with a good track record and having produced many distinguished alumni. I rectified the omission by offering a list entry, which was duly accepted - I think.

I then noted that every other entry on the List hyperlinked to dedicated webpages and I therefore created one for Mani HS School using the primary sources at my disposal, applying the same quality standards of journalism as Wikipaedia generally. The text was written in a neutral tone and its purpose was to highlight and present an important and noteworthy educational institution whose omission appeared to be, at best an accidental oversight.

I am now told that the subject is not notable. Wikipedia has extensive guidelines on notability and I cannot claim that I understand them all, but the prime precept as I see it, is the test of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". But while seeming intuitively plausible, the idea that repetition is a test of good value (such as a thousand lies making a truth) appears a feeble test and even, rather tautological! But I am not here to question.

However, I think anyone who judges my contribution as not notable, should be prepared too, to defend the other entries on the same Wikipaedia page that are already live, and therefore have presumably passed the "notable" test. I refer, for example, to schools on the same List, such as (a) Islamiyah Matriculation Higher Secondary School, (b) Lisieux Matriculation Higher Secondary School (c) Nirmala Matha Convent Matriculation Higher Secondary School, etc. - and indeed, any of the 17 schools on that List, of whom none except about two would be really considered noteworthy, if not notable. In fact, the last named (c), has only three sentences of text in its dedicated webpage and two references, both to itself, all of which adds nothing to the sum of human knowledge. Pray, tell me, what is it that distinguishes my contribution as being unworthy, while all these rest have been passed?

As for the second flaw, that of improving the referencing so that the information is verifiable, the quoted references are all online, except for one primary source, a 50-year-old printed book of which only one copy is believed to be in existence. I can easily obtain for someone to verify a photocopy of the original text, which is in tamil, and which I had translated for my submission. There is nothing else than I can do.

Despite all of the above, I do understand from the rules above that I should not be really writing all this here, but should address it to WP:AFCDH, whoever that may be. But you see, I came in here to offer something that I felt would be a useful addition to human knowledge and not to become embroiled in what seems to me an extremely complex system of checks and balances, even if it is all quite marvellous. And really, as there is nothing more that I have that I can usefully add to the text of my submission to make it "notable", I have to reconcile myself to letting it die quietly. I thought it would only be polite to explain to you my silence and hence this reply.

And finally, thank you for inviting me to the Teahouse. I had not really planned on embarking upon becoming a Wikipaedia editor/author in any big way. I have spent most of my lifetime writing researched reports on healthcare strategies and don't think I really have more appetite for the cut-and-thrust of peer-reviewed journalism that this occupation - or hobby - appears to demand.

Kind regards

WikiVK (talk) 15:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi WikiVK. You need to provide at least two, preferably more, reliable, verifiable and independent references that have 'significant coverage' of the subject per WP:GNG. Further information can be found at WP:NHS and WP:WPSCH/AG and WP:ORG. In regards to the other schools you mentioned, they were created BEFORE a new policy was introduced. Thank-you David.moreno72 08:21, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

19:19:37, 8 September 2017 review of submission by Historybuff21

• Historybuff21 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:The difference between assisted living and personal care in Pennsylvania (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I just wanted to get a little more clarification on why you declined my resubmission. After the original denial (for the same reasons that you used), I removed any comment that could be construed as opinion, and added an additional source for the one line that could possibly be considered opinion (that assisted living and personal care were considered interchangeable). I am not using any original research, so I'm confused why you denied it. Could you please help me better understand? This is a confusing matter for people in PA, and I've heard many people ask what the differences are, so I'm just trying to provide clarification.

Thanks for your consideration. Historybuff21 (talk) 19:19, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

I see that you have answered other people's questions, but not mine. Am I not asking correctly? This is the first article that I have posted in about 10 years, so I'm rusty. Historybuff21 (talk) 19:11, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Historybuff21. I declined your submission as it is too specific. A better option might be a section topic of 'Comparison between assisted living and personal care' in the Assisted living article, which includes the situation in Pennsylvania. If the section becomes too long, it could then be moved to a seperate page. Thank you David.moreno72 01:23, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

10:17:20, 13 September 2017 review of submission by 122.177.8.255

• 122.177.8.255 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Draft01 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Sir , I have aded some sitations and refrences please review and approved

07:50:47, 15 September 2017 review of submission by Jalaj websparrows

• Jalaj websparrows (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Draft01 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have added some new references, the name is also associated with the Ghayal Once Again movie and some names have been associated in the seriol but the link which they have linked in them is coming inactive.

Gdeepmusic Page

Hi David,

I was talking to other admins in the chat and I made updates acording to those comments. Please advise what is needed on my page, as I'm unable to understand.

Have a great day.

Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdeepmusic (talk • contribs) 03:49, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Gdeepmusic. Wikipedia is NOT the place for self-promotion per WP:PROMO. Also the references aren't inline, and your username is a violation of WP:UPOL. Any further questions should be directed to WP:AFCHD. Thank-you David.moreno72 04:25, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Stimulated Raman spectroscopy page

Shay beer (talk) 06:44, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi David,

Thank you for accepting my article stimulated Raman spectroscopy. Thank you even so much more for rating it as a Start-Class on the WikiProject Articles for creation quality scale! I deeply appreciate it.

Shay Be'er

Request on 17:45:09, 16 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Jmararha

• Jmararha (talk · contribs)
  • User:Jmararha/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi David, I'm have added the sources in the article, those are written in credible newspapers and media websites. I'm not the artist or COI. Please advise.

Jmararha (talk) 17:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Instead of revert

Instead of reverting try to find sources first if you don't find any revert later a*s o

*🦂😎 Nabeelgm 😎🦂(Talk)•°(contribs)  

Nabeel Gm 10:11, 18 September 2017 (UTC) Nabeel Gm 10:11, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Strachowice, Wrocław

Double standards? What are the differences between these articles?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Strachowice,_Wrocław

Modlin (Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki)

Okęcie

DDRowiec (talk) 13:22, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Articles of creation submission

Hey my article got declined for lack of verifiable sources, material linked or referenced is from United States Holocaust museum and national archives, as reliable as it gets. Did I forget to put them in a special box or something? Kinda new to this, any tips would be appreciated DrewM1 (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Request on 00:07:23, 22 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by DrewM1

• DrewM1 (talk · contribs)
  • User:DrewM1/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

You keep shooting down my article, user DrewM1 for lack of reliable sources. How are National Archives and United States Holocaust museum poor sources? Serial numbers are all valid too.

DrewM1 (talk) 00:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi DrewM1. I'm sorry, but none of your family satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements for inclusion. Also, I declined your article only once. The other declines were by another reviewer. Also, the references provided only verify the most basic of claims and do not verify the vast majority of the article. Any further questions are to be directed to WP:AFCHD. Thank you David.moreno72 01:25, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

add my article

Dear Sir , I have added my article about a family or caste and refrences please review and approved my article Waince jatt. Thanks ALIwaince (talk) 16:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Raja Pratap Singh

Hello, David.moreno72, Kindly review my article again. I am adding one more reference and also add a sentence in article. I know this Family He was the King of Pratapgarh Uttar Pradesh. Singh1995virat (talk) 11:37, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

No sir this is not a personal website. This website is under the World of Royalty website. Kindly review again its my Humble Request to you. This is very important to this Royal Family. Singh1995virat (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

But sir these websites already used in wikipedia in many other articles. Singh1995virat (talk) 14:21, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Singh1995virat. Can you please let me know which articles violate WP:RSSELF so that I may correct them. Thanks David.moreno72 14:25, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Abhay Pratap Singh Singh1995virat (talk) 14:39, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Singh1995virat. Thanks for your keen eye. I have now removed the unsourced and unreliably sourced material. Thanks David.moreno72 14:50, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Sir i will remove this reference in my article. Then you will post my article. Singh1995virat (talk) 15:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello sir, I am remove the source in Raja Pratap Singh of Pratapgarh. Raja Pratap Singh mentioned in two time in The Gazetteer of province of oudh. Kindly review again. Singh1995virat (talk) 03:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Singh1995virat. As per WP:GNG, and I quote 'If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.'. Passing mentions of one or two sentences does not meet Wikipedia's requirements. I did not make the rules. If you continue to add unsourced material as you did at Mahthapar, continue to harass me or other editors to review your article, or continue to submit your article without making significant improvements, your editing may be viewed as disruptive, and your account may be blocked from editing. Thank you David.moreno72 04:15, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Extremely sorry sir, Can i again submit the article Raja Pratap Singh of Pratapgarh. I am removing the unsource lines. Singh1995virat (talk) 04:23, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Can i add reference this website http://www.pratapgarh.nic.in Singh1995virat (talk) 04:44, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

14:10:35, 24 September 2017 review of submission by Typom

• Typom (talk · contribs)
  • User:Typom/Bernard Charbonneau (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello David.moreno72, Thanks for reviewing my draft. I need additional guidance. I translated the article from the French article about Bernard Charbonneau, with all its existing references, assuming they would be acceptable in the English version I drafted. Isn't it the case? If not, I'm not sure if/how additional references can be found. Thanks In advance for your clarification and help. Have a great day.

Hi, I have added several references to the Bernard Charbonneau article. Do you think it is publish-able now? In the meantime, I have got "move" privilege (because of 10 edits) but I assume it would not be appropriate to my move the article myself in light of the fact it was rejected once. Please confirm if my understanding is correct. Thank you. Best Typom (talk) 23:59, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Typom. The article is now much more likely to be accepted, unfortunately I do not review articles by request. Yes, it would not be appropriate for you to move or accept the article. Just be patient, and I'm sure that it will be reviewed. Thank you David.moreno72 00:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you User:David.moreno72. Will wait and work on something else in the meantime. Best Typom (talk) 01:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

10:47:39, 25 September 2017 review of submission by Adriatikus Group

• Adriatikus Group (talk · contribs)
  • User:Adriatikus Group/sandbox/Andrej Mlinšek (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Sir, I would like some more information on why the article was declined and on what should be corrected for the article to be approved. Is the problem in the book links to Amazon? Thank you Adriatikus Group (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

05:08:43, 25 September 2017 review of submission by Jonreillythr

• Jonreillythr (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Scott Walterschied (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

indicated imdb could not be use as source. should i use studio search which is oficial database for media industry or omit the imdb citations?

Article Review

Hello Sir, Kindly review again its my humble request to you. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 10:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

In 1st reference click the third tab see history section.Kshatriya1995 (talk) 11:35, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kshatriya1995. The history section looks to be copied from Wikipedia, or visa versa, and is completely unreferenced. Sorry, but it cannot be used. Thank you David.moreno72 11:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Then how I will create the article, every reference is wrong. please help me sir. he was my 400 year old ancestor. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 11:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kshatriya1995. It would seem that the subject does not satisfy WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. I'm sorry, but those are the minimum requirements for a biography in Wikipedia. If they cannot be met then there can be no article. Those are the rules. Thank you David.moreno72 12:09, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Ok thanks for guidance. I want a create a another article on Town or Village. can I create with the reference from Cencus web site. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 12:14, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Husenpur

Hiiiii. Can you review my article Draft:husenpur. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 10:04, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Sir Every wikipedia article on every Town and Village refernces is cencus website. I am also doing same work on this article. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 10:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Copyvio check

Hey David, just wanted to drop you a note about AFCs and copyvio. It's vital that you always check for copyright violations in draft submission. If you don't have it already, you should install Earwig's copyvio script, importScript('User:The Earwig/copyvios.js');, which adds the copyvio check right onto the left frame. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 11:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Primefac. Thanks for the tip. How do I install the script? Cheers David.moreno72 11:45, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Pop over to Special:MyPage/common.js and add importScript('User:The Earwig/copyvios.js'); to the bottom on a line of its own. Here's mine as an example -- There'sNoTime ^{(to explain)} 11:54, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks There'sNoTime. David.moreno72 12:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	For sifting and slogging through the draft articles. Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks Dlohcierekim. It's certainly hard work with little appreciation, so your barnstar certainly made my day. David.moreno72 12:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Article Review

Sir Every wikipedia article on every Town and Village refernces is cencus website. I am also doing same work on this article. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 10:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kshatriya1995. I don't review articles by request. Someone else will no doubt review it. Thanks David.moreno72 12:05, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Then How to published in Google. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 14:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Request on 13:46:59, 27 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by JoãoMM

• JoãoMM (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pedro Pinho (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi,

Are the new changes appropriate to make the article "publishable"? If you reckon the guy is not suitable for an article, I will not argue about that. How do we establish someone or something as important enough?

Thanks,

J.

JoãoMM (talk) 13:46, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi. The subject needs significant coverage from reliable, third party sources not connected with the subject. Someone has to have written a great deal about them in order to establish notability. All the draft now has is IMDB. IMDB is not considered a reliable source as it is user editable.Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

IMDB was a lazy choice, indeed :) . I'll look in the official pages of the mentioned Film Festivals.

Thanks,

JoãoJoãoMM (talk) 19:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Vyaghra

Sir Please Add the Vyaghra Gotra. Baiyagar & Vyaghra is same meaning. why not you understand Vyaghra is gotra of Hindu Chandravanshi(Somavanshi) Rajput Gotra. Please stop deletion this account. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 05:10, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

How do YOU know that? Where did you read it? All you have to do is to provide a reliable and verifiable reference per WP:V. If you provide the source here, and I can verify it, I will add it myself and remove the PROD. Thanks David.moreno72 05:18, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Sir, I know because My Family priest said me Baiyagar is also same Vyaghra Gotra. We are chandravanshi(Somavanshi)Rajput from India. you see this web site Maurha.com Singh1995virat (talk) 05:30, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kshatriya1995. Your family priest is not considered by Wikipedia as a reliable source, and your link also does not verify your claim. As such, the information cannot be added to Wikipedia. Thank you David.moreno72 05:35, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Baiyagar

Sir whats wrong in this article. there is mention in Hand Books of Rajputs. you can see. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 11:36, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kshatriya1995. The sources only provide passing mentions which do not satisfy WP:N. Thank you David.moreno72 13:04, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I RE-EDITED MY REFERENCES. PLEASE CHECK IT AND ACCEPT MY ARTICLE SIR.

HERE AM PROVIDING YOU THE LINK OF MY ARTICLE. PLEASE CHECK MY REFERENCES AND KINDLY LET ME KNOW ANY MISTAKES. IF EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT , PLEASE ACCEPT MY ARTICLE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Flytech_Aviation_Academy Hi @Sharathchandrakothapally:. I do not review by request. Thank you David.moreno72 13:15, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

13:02:14, 28 September 2017 review of submission by Brycemartens

• Brycemartens (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Computer Education Leaders in San Mateo County (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Career Education Leaders of San Mateo County is a professional organization of computer science teachers in the county on the northernmost edge of Silicon Valley? Wht are we not notable? Thanks.

Hi @Brycemartens:. You need multiple (at least 3), reliable references that are independent per WP:N. Thank-you David.moreno72 13:19, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

05:17:10, 5 October 2017 review of submission by Michael Lloyd-White 1

• Michael Lloyd-White 1 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:WORLD KINDNESS USA (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi David, Im relatively new to this What do i need to do to fix the article World Kindness USA?

Husenpur

Whats wrong in my Article. I think you only decline the all articles. when you satisfy. according to you every this is doubtful and wrong article. Kshatriya1995 (talk) 04:33, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

13:26:26, 7 October 2017 review of submission by OxanaSelekhova

• OxanaSelekhova (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:'LATO, or Liquidity Asset Token (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear David

you reject my article for the third time . it is not just about forward contracts its about a new crypto currency. May I ask you for a favour to consider it again while I input more appropriate referencing ? I am trying to do my best for the Wikipedia and after spending some time working on it, I got a message from you – do not resubmit ? Would you please consider it again ?

Forward contracts is not a crypto currency - its commodities etc...

This is your message : ===Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Forward contract instead.

Hi @OxanaSelekhova:

Lets have a look at your references

[1], The Ethereum BlockChain Explorer, API and Analytics Platform

[2], Cryptocurrency Exchanges / Markets List

[3]Cryptocurrency Exchanges Are Increasingly Roiled by Hackings and Chaos

[4] A forward contract is a private agreement between two parties giving the buyer an obligation to purchase an asset (and the seller an obligation to sell an asset) at a set price at a future point in time

[5], Cryptocurrency calculator & converter

[6], limitations for purchasing and using LAT in USA, dated July 25, 2017

1 is the Ethereum API, not about LATO.

2 is an Exchange list, not about LATO.

3 is about Cryptocurrency Exchanges, not about LATO.

4 is about a forward contracts, not about LATO.

5 is a calculator, not about LATO.

6 is about LAT's, not about LATO.

It really is very simple. The references have to be about the topic, not something else. Any further questions are to be directed to WP:AFCHD. Thank you David.moreno72 13:39, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	I notice you have reviewed a bunch of AfC drafts. Thanks for reducing the backlog.  I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 05:37, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 08:54:21, 8 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by OxanaSelekhova

• OxanaSelekhova (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:'LATO, or Liquidity Asset Token (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

OS 08:54, 8 October 2017 (UTC) Hei David you state different reasons. To decline After I worked on references You said it's an advertisement And before you stated that it's about Forward contracts I am really confused How can I improve it ? To be published

Hi @OxanaSelekhova:. To improve the article it has to be about Liquidity Asset Token, not about a broker. Given that it's a relatively new concept, it is probably WP:TOOSOON. Also, given that your account is a single purpose, it is highly likely that there is an undisclosed conflict of interest. It is highly unlikely that your ad will be published. All further questions are to be directed to the help page. End of conversation. David.moreno72 09:06, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, I added references. NOW will you review my Draft:Cover Me (Depeche Mode song)? BlindmanJr (talk) 13:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

09:36:56, 8 October 2017 review of submission by OxanaSelekhova

• OxanaSelekhova (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:'LATO, or Liquidity Asset Token (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

David hello again. I did not know that a minor rename will let you think that this is about a different subject that’s because when I had a re submit bottom there was also a subject line and I thought I had to rename it to re -submit, thus I added Latoken word and now you say it’s a different subject. I will eliminate it all over Besides there are many new concepts as cryptocurrencies are relatively new in general Here are some articles you have and I wonder if after all my editing you would consider it again? As its also belongs to this list ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies Ubiq Zcash Thank You Oxana

Should not remove everything on ganga nagar meerut

Please review the content again Divyenduraj (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 06:44:37, 9 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Arunprasanth1991

• Arunprasanth1991 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Arun Prasanth (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Why my article was not approved?

Arunprasanth1991 (talk) 06:44, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Arunprasanth1991. The reasons were laid down in the red coloured note. You need to read it. Also click onto the links, and read the text of those as well. Thank you David.moreno72 07:55, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 09:36:20, 9 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by MadeforU

• MadeforU (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Richard Prasad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please check i have a create one Article and publish the article

MadeforU^{Send me a message!} 09:36, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:River Hawkins

Two comments on your recent review of Draft:River Hawkins which I reverted:

1. In general I don't think it's a good idea to review the same draft over and over again; it's better to let someone else take a look at it, too. Firstly, we might miss something that someone else notices, and secondly, we should not act as one-person doorkeepers.
2. The specific review said the page was an "attack page" or "vandalism". There was no negative content in the draft whatsoever, and while the subject may not be notable, there was no vandalism either. Huon (talk) 13:28, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

08:09:13, 9 October 2017 review of submission by Nncc1006

• Nncc1006 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Cardano (Blockchain) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Which reference is "dependent"? All of them?? How can they be "independent"? I need some examples. Thank you.

Draft:Prod By DJ Smith

Firstly, it's best to not tell someone that they don't comply WP:COMPETENCE. There's too much of a risk that it might anger them instead of motivating them to be more competent. In the best case scenario, as we've just seen, it does nothing. I was also wondering if, at this point, we should go ahead and MfD this draft. I mean, there are inline citations...technically. They're all DJ Smiths' releases, though. -- I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 01:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi I dream of horses. Yeah, you're right. It certainly is frustrating when an editor resubmits without reading and/or understanding the notes. As such I am taking a break from AfC reviewing, especially in light of the comments from you and Huon. Go ahead and MfD the article. Let me know and I will add an ivote. I'm going to focus on other things, hopefully not treading on any toes. Thank you David.moreno72 01:50, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Women of Rock Oral History Project

I'm a little confused- the sources I listed are reliable, secondary sources, entirely independent from Smith College and the oral history collection. I deliberately excluded any articles or interviews conducted by Smith College. The Women of Rock Oral History Project is a collection of personal and professional biographies documenting the lives of women rock musicians. This is an academic, educational, archival project, housed at a major institution so it is not something that would appear in a major popular rock music publication. These interviews are available to the public and are valuable primary source materials that could greatly serve Wikipedia's gender discrepancy. The project is notable because it is the first of its kind in the country and this is noted in the references I posted- I was being careful about not using promotional language in the text.

I will work on linking the interviewees to their Wikipedia pages.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by TanyaPearson81 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

The poster also asked about Draft:Women of Rock Oral History Project at AfC, it may make sense to centralize discussion there. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:46, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

approval

am new on wikipedia what should i do to get my draft approved sirBenonaji (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 17:30:28, 12 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Akash.ka01

• Akash.ka01 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nancy Gupta (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I have made changes to my blog NANCY GUPTA as per your comments. Can you please approve it. I will be very thankful to you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nancy_Gupta

Akash.ka01 (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

08:32:15, 12 October 2017 review of submission by LordkayAB

• LordkayAB (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:BRYAN THE MENSAH (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please I have made corrections to the information provided. I have tried my best to provide credible Ghanaian news websites and credible information or references from Appple Music. Please reconsider and accept my request.

Update @ 10:20am: I have made more corrections please review my page. Hoping and praying you accept it. The sources are accurate and subject has no hand in them. Thank you.

Please reconsider.

Hello kindly review my draft once more because I've changed the references. LordkayAB (talk) 05:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Also I'm still working on it but the references are new and from correct sources. LordkayAB (talk) 05:30, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi LordkayAB. I'm sorry but I don't do reviews by request. Please read WP:OBLIGATION. Thank you David.moreno72 07:24, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi David.moreno72. Well I'm also sorry for bothering you but you rejected it and I've made the corrections.

Request on 17:51:02, 12 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Akash.ka01

• Akash.ka01 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nancy Gupta (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have done changes to my blog NANCY GUPTA as per your comments. Can you please help me by making it live. Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nancy_Gupta Akash.ka01 (talk) 17:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Akash.ka01 (talk) 17:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Akash.ka01. I'm sorry but I don't do reviews by request. Please read WP:OBLIGATION. Thank you David.moreno72 07:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

20:55:07, 13 October 2017 review of submission by Anton Mundinger

• Anton Mundinger (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:George Pepper (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi David.moreno72, this is Anton Mundinger. I have working in the George Pepper (film producer) Wikipedia entry to make it better (with more reliable sources) so it can be accepted by the editors . Would you have a minute to have a look? I'd really appreciate it. I must confess I am a bit lost with the different methods to contribute to Wikipedia - but I am a big fan of the project - free and open for everybody with internet access. Thanks in advance.

05:58:20, 14 October 2017 review of submission by Zatheerkhan

• Zatheerkhan (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mohamed Zathir (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

'Quality' article submission

Hi David.moreno72 I recently posted an article titled 'Quality' on a short story of the same name by John Galsworthy. However, I forgot to add the references.Thank you for pointing that blunder out.I have now added them and resubmitted it. Here are the references https://www.thoughtco.com/quality-by-john-galsworthy-1690111 https://www.permanentstyle.com/2015/01/a-bootmaking-story-quality-by-john-galsworthy.html

I hope it will be accepted this time. However, if you do find any faults, I will be more than glad to correct them so please check.

Thanking you for the great work you do

Arstrike

Matthijs Otterloo

Why is Matthijs Otterloo's page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Matthijs_Otterloo) rejected? In my opinion it does adequately show the subject's notability, with enough press mentions, his verified status on Twitter and the times he was seen on Dutch television.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Taniguchi_Kokyo

Hi, David,

I followed your instructions regarding this page, adding sources and known books about the painter. I have no clear if you saw it again. I have no special interest in this painter, but I wish to polish the skills in order to integrate japanese painting in general. Short pages, with reliable info, some comments. I search many times for japanese painters and I see there is not much info in wikipedia. Could you help me to do this? I hope I could help with it Thanks a lot. Martín

October review of Draft:Concord Resources Limited

I have moved some of what I had mistakenly called "External links" into "References". Does this help?

Bananabean (talk) 08:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)John (Bananabean) 15/10/2017

Ned Kelly

Hi. Please list the errors, incorrect quotations and incorrect labels. Thanks. - HappyWaldo (talk) 07:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi HappyWaldo.

• Your first edit, listing in chronological order, great work.
• Your second edit, has incorrectly labelled the portraits. You have Scanlan and McIntyre mixed up, which is surprising since the portrait which you removed was of McIntyre. Your own mistake is one of the reasons why McIntyre deserves his own portrait. If you look on the internet it is very common that the policemen are incorrectly labelled. Wikipedia should be a reliable source where people can reliably depend on who they were. Their portraits also deserve some respect. The three that were murdered should be all together, and the lone survivor, should receive special recognition as his evidence was the linchpin in the trial. If you wish to remove the portrait of McIntyre, counter to the current consensus of adding images achieved through two seperate RfC's, you will need to raise your own RfC.
• Your third edit uses an unreliable source that has mistranscribed the quote. The current source is the handwritten letter, and what is currently in the article is word for word. If you wish to dispute the originality of the Cameron letter, may I suggest that you take that up with the Victorian Public Record Office.
• Your fourth edit removed an image that was the result of a consensus achieved as a result of previous RfC. You cannot remove it without another RfC. (Given that you participated in the RfC, you cannot claim ignorance.)
• Your fifth edit was the unexplained decropping of the Aaron Sherritt image. The crop enables a better viewing of the subjects face.

Given your reckless and wilful disregard for the RfC process and the consensus that has already been achieved, on multiple occasions, any further edits where consensus has not been reached, will be reverted as vandalism, and you will be immediately reported. Thank you David.moreno72 08:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

I can recognize Scanlan and McIntyre apart, simply made a mistake in captioning image. If the Stringybark Creek section was cleaned up, there wouldn't be room for so many images. Very minor differences in transcription of Cameron letter. My gripe was with the removal of the quote box. Also I explained the Sherritt crop: "full image". Might it be worthwhile to have the full, original image available? Yes, you won the RFCs, and for that the article circles the drain just that little bit faster. You have treated it like it's an actual Wiki devoted to Ned Kelly, not part of an encyclopaedia with universal readership. It would be nice to see the page meet the criteria for a good article nom, but that would mean altering or undoing a lot of your work. As of now I can't be bothered dealing with the drama that would result from that. - HappyWaldo (talk) 10:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

h Venkataraman Saurav (talk) 09:41, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

First time submission

Dear David,

I would like to know if my page will be uploaded on wikipedia.

all my authentic details are on www.imperialclinics.com

I was unable to upload my profile picture. Could you please guide me with the same?

Many thanks in advance.

Yours truly,

Dr. Shreepad A. Khedekar

Shreepadkhedekar (talk) 10:32, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Shreepadkhedekar. Per WP:NOTCV, your page is not suitable for Wikipedia. Thank you David.moreno72 10:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Lexers615 (talk) 12:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

14:13:03, 18 October 2017 review of submission by WikipediaMasterGuru

• WikipediaMasterGuru (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Wembley Cup (Youtube) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I believe that my page is deserved of its own page as the current Wembley Cup page, is not the same Wembley Cup as I am creating on Wikipedia. I think that there is more information on this Wembley Cup than the other version and it would look more professional and would be easier for the user trying to find the YouTube Wembley Cup.

18:41:39, 18 October 2017 review of submission by Skj288

• Skj288 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:ABXY Studio (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, I hope to resubmit this article, but I wanted to know more specifically why it was declined and what I can do to fix this. You mentioned it was because a lack of notability so I have added more to that; however, I was wondering if you could possibly explain in more depth what this means? I have read over the wiki pages that are given as references for help, however, I need a little more. Thank you so much for your time! Samantha Jensen

Skj288 (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Skj288. The article was declined as it had no inline references. There should be at least three references that have 'significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject'. It should then be possible for someone else to recreate the article based on those references. For instance, the current reference does not even mention ABXY Studios. Another issue is that the article is full of external links. External links ONLY belong in the External links section, and should only relate to the subject. The history section is about the history of Barker and not about the history of ABXY Studios. The main issue though is I don't think that the studio is notable. When I did a Google search there was no significant coverage in secondary sources. A Google trends search for 'ABXY art gallery' came up with 'Hmm, your search doesn't have enough data to show here.' That strongly indicates that the subject is not notable and is not suitable for a Wikipedia page. Sorry about that. David.moreno72 00:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Mirza Ali

Hi sir please approved my wikipedia page. I am singer voice of punjabi 7. So I request you please approved my page. Why my wikipedia page declined? I am a punjabi singer. Name: Mirza Ali Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mirza_Ali — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.53.210.214 (talk) 10:53, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Giovanni Morelli (Designer) - Citations Updated

Karen at Stuart Weitzman (talk) 19:57, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 16:33:37, 20 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Skj288

• Skj288 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:ABXY Studio (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi David! I see the issues you mentioned and I will edit those for sure. There are more than 3 independent sources that have done articles on the studio, I just did not have them in the sources place, so I will fix that. If you do a google search, the first five are actually of the studio and of other places where the art from ABXY is located, so I am not sure what google search you were doing. Because it just opened, there is more things published now, verses when I first sent in the article. If I fix the issues you mentioned, will it be possible to resubmit it for an edit? And no, I am not asking you to review it now, just if it will be possible to resubmit after edits? Thank you so much! -Samantha Jensen

Skj288 (talk) 16:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC) Skj288 (talk) 16:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Skj288. I have reviewed your article and it is still not suitable. The problem is that it still does not contain any 3rd party, independent references about the subject, which is an absolute requirement to establish notability. References 1-7 are all written by the owner of the gallery and so are not independent. References 8-14 are about exhibits or the artists, and not about the studio. The only reference actually about the studio is reference 15, but it is an interview with the owner, and so it is not independent. Please read WP:IS and please do not submit until there are at least three 3rd party and independent references that are about the studio. Thank you David.moreno72 00:56, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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"significant coverage (not just mere mentions)"

https://books.google.com/books?id=uThaAAAAMAAJ is a whole book on it (Description: "It examines selected Arthurian novels and short stories by such women writers as Fay Sampson, Mary Stewart, Gillian Bradshaw, and Marion Zimmer Bradley to analyze the textual strategies that articulate feminist ideas.") written by https://brocku.ca/social-sciences/departments-and-centres/cpcf/ma-in-popular-culture/faculty-staff/ann-howey

I'm not sure what else do you want, if several reviews and scholarly treatments like that are not enough. It's hard to find many reviews on the internet on the books published from before WWW even existed at all!

Btw many or maybe even most novel articles in Wikipedia have no sources at all. About anything. Just look at for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1992_British_novels for just some other British novels from 1992. Siome examples from just letters B & C: Battle for the Park, Blood Brothers (Lumley novel), Cabal (Dibdin novel), The Carpet People, Cold in the Earth. Others usually have only a few, like between 1 and 4 --94.246.150.68 (talk) 05:12, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

And here's a big article (interview) by Raymond H. Thompson: http://d.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/text/interview-with-fay-sampson Seriously. --94.246.150.68 (talk) 05:21, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

inline references

The need for inline references only applies to BLPs and to controversial or disputed information. Please do not use it in other cases. And in any case, it is not usially the key problem which is more likely to be lack of sufficient substantial reliable sources for notability. The purppse of AfC review is to prevent articles from being entered that will inevitable fail WFD. Its easy to move references inline, if that;s the only problem, and it can be done in mainspace--articles do not generally get deleted at AfD for this problem. . Not having references to show notability is something much more fundamental. It's important to give the right assistance to newcomers. DGG ( talk ) 08:28, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

for example, there are much more serious problems with Draft:Episode-Choose your Story and Emerald(a story within Episode) than where the references are located.See my comment there. DGG ( talk ) 08:37, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Is this comment aimed at me or are you just using me as a 'bad' examaple? -L weiwei yt

Hi DGG. Many thanks for your helpful comments, unfortunately it would seem that it has confused the author. Keep up the good work. David.moreno72 12:31, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Remember to check for copyvio

Hi David.moreno72 and thanks for your work reviewing drafts. Please remember to check for copyright violations. The particular one I saw was Draft:Bait (Coloring Book), which had extensive copying from http://www.powells.com/book/bait-9781506703114 or Amazon. Thank you, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:54, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey David.moreno72, I am really disappointed you did not accept my request. I am aware that that is your job, but we had an assignment to write a Wikipedia page in my English class(I am in college). Could you please read through mine again and see all of its potentials to be a great Wikipedia page? I know my username isn't that serious sounding, but I am. I would never post anything fake on Wikipedia because I myself use it for a lot of things.

Moomooocow (talk) 14:00, 25 October 2017 (UTC)moomooocow

helping out here, what course and what college? At any college just like here, the copying of material from other sources is considered plagiarism. DGG ( talk ) 16:14, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

09:46:27, 25 October 2017 review of submission by L weiwei yt

• L weiwei yt (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Episode-Choose your Story and Emerald(a story within Episode) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am confused, first you said i needed more inline references now you left a message saying ' The problem is not inline references. The need for inline references only applies to BLPs and to controversial or disputed information. . And in any case, it is not usially the key problem which is more likely to be lack of sufficient substantial reliable sources for notability. The purppse of AfC review is to prevent articles from being entered that will inevitable fail WFD. Its easy to move references inline, if that;s the only problem, and it can be done in mainspace--articles do not generally get deleted at AfD for this problem. . Not having references to show notability is something much more fundamental.'

You said that I need to prove the notability of my text by having substancial reliable sources. You also said that my article goes too in depth for a player which wants to play the game. More reliable sources means more research, therefore lading to more in-depth text. What do I need to do?

L weiwei yt since I was the last person to decline the article, I should clear up the confusion. So:

1. I looked at it again. In fact, the CBC and techcrunch sources taken together are sufficient to show notability; I should not have said otherwise.
2. As for the excess detail, I see you removed some of it. But in this article the remainder of the content seems supported not by the references , but your personal judgment. That is not how a WP article can be written. Though you do not have to reference every fact in detail, you need to do it at least approximately, enough so the reader can see that it is what third party published sources have said, not your opinion--and you must remove all that is just your opinion.
3. The facts about how many episodes/stories/viewers there have been is something that does need a specific reference--and a specific date to which the figures apply.
4. In the reviews section, miscellaneous individual reviews on a web forum are not satisfactory references--they need to be actually published by a reliable source.
5. The entire section of detail about a particular game is entirely inappropriate and should be removed entirely.
6. and you ought to enter the sources in the standard format using the reference template on the editor. See WP:REFBEGIN for the details--it makes them more convincing, DGG ( talk ) 16:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

{{U|DGG} Well, the entire section of 'Emerald' is by self-judgement since it's a story within Episode and has nearly no information it on the Internet except the story's blurb. Should I post the same thing which I had posted for Emerald onto Wiki FANDOM first, then copy and paste it back here so it can be sourced?The rest of the article however, could all be sourced. The section on Reviews are all 'fan-based' so I'm not sure whether I should delete the entire section. Is a source reference at the end of every paragraph sound sufficient?Thanks a lot.

User:David Miller5/sandbox

I noticed we just clashed in reviewing this single line draft. User:David Miller5/sandbox. Although it shows your declining message at top with one minute before mine, I opened the draft first and typing comment with screentouch made me lag that you reviewed it also while I am in. Anyway this is to let you understand why the script recorded me as decliner, though you submit first, and in case you thought I came after you're done and override you. Many thanks. –09:34, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Kelly

"In 1869, while a teenager, Kelly was arrested for assaulting a Chinese merchant. In 1870 he was arrested for highway robbery in the association with the bushranger Harry Power and later that year for assaulting a hawker. In 1871 he was convicted of receiving a stolen horse and imprisoned for two and a half years. In his early twenties he led the "Greta mob", a group of bush larrikins known for stock theft." Is it not apparent to you how stilted and tedious this is? It's like it was written by an autistic robot (no offense). Also it's redundant to note that Kelly was a teenager in 1869 (his birth date appears in opening sentence and people can count). Per MOS:INTRO there is simply not enough room to list comparatively minor events like the scuffle with Ah Fook. Unlike the Stringybark murders, it is not an essential part of the story. I've changed the citation and reworded it to state that a teenage Kelly "joined" the Greta mob rather than led it. - HappyWaldo (talk) 08:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Tomorrow I'm going to go through secondary sources (many of them listed in the largely unused bibliopgraphy section I added) and get to the bottom of the Greta mob timeline. If it turns out that Kelly joined the mob in his twenties, then I would suggest the following tweak: "While a teenager, Kelly was arrested for associating with bushranger Harry Power, and later joined the "Greta mob", a group of bush larrikins known for stock theft." I appreciate the corrections you've made and leave them be once verified. You clearly know a lot about the Kelly story. However I do take issue with the addition of minor crimes and events to the lead, eg scuffle with Ah Fook. I think the Harry Power association and Greta mob connection paint a good enough picture of Kelly's early criminal activity, don't you agree? From what I've read, family members fell under the sympathiser umbrella, so I removed "family" per WP:TERSE. But if you think it's necessary to single out relatives, then I don't really have anything against it. We both want the best for the page so I'm willing to discuss and reach some kind of compromise before any future changes/reverts. - HappyWaldo (talk) 13:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Do you have a copy of Peter Fitzsimons' Kelly biography? Pages 104 through 112 are devoted to the Greta mob. 1877 seems to be the year it gestated. Ned would have been in his early twenties at this time. So you are correct. If it's alright with you, I'll change the reference and add that Kelly "later" joined the mob. - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:47, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi HappyWaldo, any mention of the Greta mob has to be after he was released for receiving a stolen horse, so that it is in chronological order. My suggestion is, 'While a teenager, Kelly was arrested for associating with bushranger Harry Power, He was convicted of receiving a stolen horse in 1871 and imprisoned for two and a half years. In his early twenties he went on to join the "Greta mob", a group of bush larrikins known for stock theft.' But I'm still not happy as it is giving undue weight to only two of his early crimes and his "Greta mob" involvement is not even mentioned elsewhere in the article, a violation of WP:LEAD where it says 'Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article.' I'm happy though to compromise and keep it in if you can compromise with the following suggestion. So per WP:LEAD, 'Like in the body of the article itself, the emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic', his first run in with the police with a charge of highway robbery is important to the topic. Also, his assault on a hawker in which he received a prison term is also important. ALL serious charges like assault and highway robbery, especially where a term of imprisonment is involved deserve to be noted in the lede, and yes I do agree that minor crimes such as 'riding over a footpath' should not be in the lede. In the spirit of cooperation, I'm sure that you could create some prose that saliently incorporates all of his early notable crimes. Also, you will need to remove the existing reference as it does not even mention the 'Greta mob'. If you wish to replace it with the FitzSimons biography, I am more than happy. Speaking of the FitzSimons book, the front cover https://d3cxckyc3pu9pz.cloudfront.net/images/9781742758909.jpg has an excellent picture of the 'Kelly log'. Given that FitzSimons thought it notable enough to be on the front cover of his book it is a travesty that it is not currently on the page. Also, in future please do not revert good faith edits per WP:ONLYREVERT, do not misrepresent sources per WP:DISRUPTSIGNS or exceed 3RR as per WP:3RR, it is very disruptive. I look forward to your suggestion. Thank you David.moreno72 07:54, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

I'll try come up with a sentence or two that efficiently and chronologically covers all of Ned's pre-outlaw criminal activity and run it by you. You are right to point out that the lead should reflect the content of the article body. Would you like to weave in some stuff about the Greta mob? And I thought this was the Kelly log (image can be seen in the capture and release of hostages section). As far as I'm aware the log itself no longer exists. - HappyWaldo (talk) 08:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

How's this for a condensed version of his early criminal career: "While a teenager, Kelly was arrested for associating with bushranger Harry Power, and later joined the "Greta mob", a group of bush larrikins known for stock theft.[1] He served several prison terms for a variety of crimes, the longest stretch being from 1871 to 1874 on a conviction of receiving a stolen horse, resisting arrest and fighting with police." - HappyWaldo (talk) 00:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@HappyWaldo: Putting the Harry Power and Greta Mob so close together implies that he was still a teenager when he joined. The Jones book says that he joined the Greta Mob just before the Stringybark murders. I don't have access to FitzSimons book, so he may say different. So trying not to have too much weight on his early charges, for which he wasn't convicted, what do you think of this revision, which also includes a bit of his 'going straight'. 'While a teenager, Kelly was arrested and charged for a variety of crimes including highway robbery, assault and associating with bushranger Harry Power, but wasn't convicted. In 1870 he was sentenced to a 6 month prison term, and later the next year for 3 years on a conviction of receiving a stolen horse. Upon release Kelly worked as a labourer and was the overseer for the Burkes Holes sawmill. After the injustices of the Fitzpatrick incident, he joined the "Greta mob", a group of bush larrikins known for stock theft.' Regards. David.moreno72 03:53, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

I think the size and detail of your proposal lends Kelly's early crimes undue weight. There's nothing all that notable about them, other than the fact that they were committed by Kelly. Anyone else with a criminal record ending before the Stringybark murders would have faded into oblivion by now. We need to provide the background but move on quickly to the real meat of the matter. For the sake of clarity and ease of reading, I think two sentences are necessary: one to cover Kelly's early criminal connections (Harry Power, Greta mob), and one for his crimes and stints in prisons. That's what I attempted with my proposal. - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:24, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@HappyWaldo: How about this then, which is even shorter, but is most importantly, in chronological order. 'While a teenager, Kelly was arrested for associating with bushranger Harry Power. He served two prison terms for a variety of offences, the longest stretch being from 1871 to 1874 on a conviction of receiving a stolen horse. He would later join the "Greta mob", a group of bush larrikins known for stock theft.[1]' David.moreno72 05:44, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

That works for me. Glad we could arrive at this compromise. - HappyWaldo (talk) 10:11, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 18:55:20, 26 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AhmetSelim12

• AhmetSelim12 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:The Globe Post (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi David, it seems you deleted The Globe Post page today because of several factors such as it failed to provide references for its notability. I am not really sure in what format references should be provided since there was only a single line in the page.

The website was referenced by dozens of university pages -- which are one of the most reliable websites. Washington Post, Reuters, MSNBC, Huffington Post are some of the websites that referenced The Globe Post. Yesterday, a global coalition against ISIS shared The Globe Post's story. Today, U.S. State Department shared one of its stories. I would be happy to share those links with you if you want. I just don't know how to put references on its Wikipedia page. I believe there is a growing interest in The Globe Post, but Wikipedia editors are not allowing it to present itself.

I am more than happy to provide additional information why it is notable -- such as its mission to train journalists, its vast global network -- but I didn't include those lines just because you would tag it as advertising. Please advise -- what else should I write to avoid it to be advertising or how I can put more references? I wrote one single line just to avoid any type of violation and now you are saying that it fails to show as a notable company. When I write what the company is, it fails because it allegedly is advertising. What is the solution then?

AhmetSelim12 (talk) 18:55, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

00:46:04, 26 October 2017 review of submission by 47.223.215.13

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The link to reference has to be just "https://www.fcc.gov" because their website doesn't have more detailed URL due to use of the inquiry mode of finding data on their website

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I've just added references to my article. Thank you for your time.

Dr. Anand Nadkarni

Hi David, Thanks for your inputs. I have tried to add more inline references that I could find. Re Awards, am not able to find any web page covering these awards.... What should be done ? Thanks and regards, KA03 KA03 (talk) 16:45, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Changes made to post you declined

I added the sources after forgetting to the first time. Please review and accept. Page was Draft:Indiana State Senate 1st District — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckallas89 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

19:07:09, 31 October 2017 review of submission by Hossin Kamal

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even the title not present in the wiki, how about the contents of my article. the article is a uniqe and pioneer for researchers on the EARTH linked primary biological clock .[ unfair act ] thanks