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Conflict of interest discussions in 2022

Deleted Pages

→ in re: The Official Bright Line Eating Cookbook: Weight Loss Made Simple (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), File:The Official bright Line Eating Cookbook.jpeg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Susan Peirce Thompson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Bright Line Eating (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), File:Bright Line Eating.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), and related pages
→ see also: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1137#Requesting Undelete. Where do I start?

Hello Athaenara. I am new to Wikipedia and have learned a lot in the past weeks but specially today. I submitted my first article today and even though I read a lot and saw tons of tutorials I still was missing some things that very kindly some more experienced editors have pointed out in the café, my talk page and and admin's talk page. I understand that the book I chose for my article needs more exposure and reviews so I can reference it to outside reliable sources. I was wandering if I could get my work back on my sandbox or any private space so I can rework it, fix mistakes and maybe in the future publish it if it meets the requirements.

On the other hand, I was told that my page and 2 other pages (that I didn't create) were deleted because of conflict of interest. At least that's what they told me. There pages are: Susan Peirce Thompson and Bright Line Eating. I edited these pages (minor) because they had errors and were missing accurate information. example: last names or actualization of info. Apparently, because I edited on those pages and they are related to the book I was writing. I read that I can't work for the company or be close related to the author or the publishing house and I confirm that I am not receiving any type of compensation. I can also confirm that this topic interests me and that I follow the author's work and have read her books, same books that were needed for me to be able to write. I read in the guidelines that writing as a volunteer and NOT writing in a promotional or advertising way is welcome in wikipedia. I believe that everyone that writes about something needs to have interest right? Specially with how hard this was for me and writing as a volunteer haha. Can you please explain why these pages were deleted? I feel bad that because my article was not qualified, pages that are valuable and that have contributions from the community have been deleted. Can you please share with me your thought on this? Thanks so much for your time and help. Marianti21 (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

They weren't deleted "because of conflict of interest", as you said, but because they were WP:SPAM. Yours was not the only account involved. – Athaenara ✉ 15:46, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Can you explain? What does my contributions have to do with other accounts? Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marianti21 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Probably nothing. It's not about you, it's about the various pages. It occurs to me at times that some new editors have the idea that Wikipedia isn't really an encyclopedia, that the term is some sort of euphemism. It's not. – Athaenara ✉ 18:31, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I have to admit I'm still in learning and therefore confused about if the problem is that books shouldn't be on wikipedia? At the same time, I found a lot of books when I was creating my article. Regarding the article I created and was deleted, the other editors gave me some pointers like the need for more external references or receptions, which I will take in consideration for next time. Any additional feedback is very welcome. Regarding the Susan Peirce Thompson article, I want to ask you to take a look at the notability of this person. She is a two time best selling author (with one of her books translated into 15 languages) and she has a lot of media appearances. I went back to get some of the latest mentions and appearances. I really think that that article is valuable for the encyclopedia and would kindly ask you to reconsider un deleting it. Yesterday she appeared on national television. I think this is notable right? I'm sharing below some links that I believe will reference this person's work and trajectory. Thank you for your help and for taking the time.

https://www.wfla.com/bloom/weight-loss-mindset-vs-dieting-rezoom-your-life/ https://thebalancingact.com/bright-line-eating-innovative-solutions-to-weight-loss/ https://slingshot.disney.com/?c=dgN4Mnxxj8g3hzqH345P9fR37qLwSwrrzKdkD89dB2bLhmzH https://thehill.com/changing-america/opinion/588022-its-time-to-call-the-american-obesity-epidemic-what-it-is-an https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWLxkCMAldo https://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/20220105125222-experts-share-tips-for-breaking-sugar-addiction-as-many-begin-wellness-journey-in-2022-doctors-point-to-breaking-unhealthy-eating-habit/?intcid=CNM-00-10abd1h Marianti21 (talk) 19:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

FTR, there are comments on these links at User talk:Marianti21#Speedy deletion nomination of The Official Bright Line Eating Cookbook: Weight Loss Made Simple. --bonadea contributions talk 09:51, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Pianzaco

Delete Pianzaco

I just noticed you deleted User:Pianzaco (myself)! Can you please undo this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pianzaco (talk • contribs) 21:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:CSD#U5: you created it as the "WOFAPS Wikipedia Page", which is a misuse of Wikipedia as a web host. – Athaenara ✉ 04:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Undelete EDEALO

Hello, I am trying to understand why the page edealo was deleted although it is a page for a brand that has been there for 5 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pianzaco (talk • contribs) 21:23, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

It was advertising and had also been tagged as copyright violation of an "edealo-com-is-the-answer-for-global-shoppers" webpage. Very obvious WP:SPAM. – Athaenara ✉ 04:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Y Lot Foundation

→ in re: Draft:Y Lot Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

delete page

Regarding the Draft:Y Lot Foundation, the draft has not been revised according to the guidance of editors, but I pressed the button of (resubmit) wrongly. Therefore, the draft was deleted spreadly. May I resubmit the draft once again and this time I will follow the guideline as commented by the editor earlier. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.92.202.33 (talk) 04:41, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Decora Blind Systems Deleted

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Hey, I'm wondering how come Decora Blind Systems was deleted? I'm not sure if you read the article, but it was focused on the history of the company back to 1979, up to the recent investment of £10 million by the Business Growth Fund. It included references to many local newspapers discussing the company's growth, references to the owner's on the Irish Rich List by The Times, Irish politicians praising the business in the BBC, and their recent acquisition of several significant retailers across Europe and Australia. Decora don't offer any online retail, so the article was not created with the intention of advertising. I followed the same format as Hillarys Blinds and Hunter Douglas, should those be removed? Rowan-MMB ✉ 07:36, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the deletion of "IndieGala"

→ in re: IndieGala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The original IndieGala page was removed out of lack of references and low content. I researched and remade it in its entirety, by taking inspiration and even adapting other existing pages from the same industry branch, such as HumbleBundle, GreenManGaming etc. some were taken word by word. This page stood up, just like others for years until then. It is an over 10 year old site with a certain reputation already. The updated version contained information about the evolution from a small bundle retailer to an independent publisher/developer, charity contributor and involvement in various controversies, all factually documented by reputable sites and sources. I am not sure in what way can the article be considered Promotional when factual information is presented as well as negative criticism brought, as well as various sources to support it. Unless counting sourcing 10 year or articles that present their first bundle as promotion, of course.

Please advise upon what part constitutes "promotion" in what way can it be improved in order to not go against the rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenCojo (talk • contribs) 23:50, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Athaenara,

Did you mean to also untag this article? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Nope! – Athaenara ✉ 04:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Just to inform

Draft:Reza Ebrahimi is possibly recreated as Draft:RezaEbrahimi(1993) but tone seems neutral enough to not constitute a G11. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 12:40, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Sock?

→ in re: Draft:Shaskvir (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and various sockpuppets

Draft:Shaskvir has been recreated. While looking at the undeletion request at RFU, I saw that you had blocked user:Shaskvir and a couple of socks in Feb 2019. Apart from this draft, the page has been re-created many times at different titles and by multiple SPA users, as "Shaskvir", "Shask Vir", and "Draft:Shashank Saurabh" by user:Shaskvir1, user:Sukesh.ranjan and user:Aryanvir1991. Jay (talk) 14:24, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Help!

→ in re: Draft:Ayush Dutta (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Ayush Dutta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Mohit Dutta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Neha Dutta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Nilima Dutta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and other pages

Sir, can you please help out me, how to make my Article as other's Articles. Joeluwa (talk) 05:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Sobhan Muckherjee

→ in re: Sobhan Mukherjee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Sobhan Mukherjee (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Undeletion of recently published article 'Sobhan Mukherjee'

I would like to state that as the writer, I am just a third person and am not paid by anyone through any means for writing the article. The article has been written by me considering nothing but facts that are true and authentic and respective references were also added. However the article was deleted after it was nominated for speedy deletion. I requested to know the areas having problem and needing revision in the contest to deletion section but wasn't answered and the article was deleted. I request the undeletion of the article and clarification regarding the areas that need revision so that the article can be published. Thank you. Anonymous Atronauch (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

I would once again request sincerely that the article 'Sobhan Mukherjee' be undeleted because everything written in it was nothing but true and authentic facts without any intention of being biased by me. Furthermore, the search traffic had increased greatly for the search of the article since its publication because there are many individuals who want to know and read the article on Sobhan Mukherjee. If there was any area which seemed promotional, biased or spam and posed a problem towards its publication, it was unintentional and I wish to know the areas so that it could be revised. But I would once again like to kindly request the administrator to undelete and restore the article 'Sobhan Mukherjee.' Also, in reply the above given link with the 'Sobhan Mukherjee' has no article linked to it as can be seen. I sincerely wish the restoration of the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous Atronauch (talk • contribs) 03:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

William Toner

→ in re: William Toner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Bill Toner (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), and User:TheWordConsultancy

Hello Anthaenara, unfortunately you deleted my article on William Toner. I will take on board the feedback I received and attempt to re-write this to meet wiki criteria. I would appreciate any feedback and help as I go. Thanks --Lornaword13 (talk) 13:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Renuar Locaj draft

→ in re: Draft:Renuar Locaj (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because Locaj is a well-known artist in Albania. He is an ambassador for his country and it seems his last work on migration documents the pain and sacrifice of refugees. I believe he should be part of the greatest free encyclopedia in a neutral tone — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiEDDE (talk • contribs) 09:19, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@WikiEDDE: On the contrary, it was very obviously promotional, which is another way of saying what is meant when a page is tagged {{db-g11}} for deletion as "unambiguous advertising or promotion": it was not written in the appropriately neutral encyclopedic tone which Wikipedia policies and guidelines require. – Athaenara ✉ 10:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Venus Remedies Deletion

→ in re: Draft:Venus Remedies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), see also User talk:SaffronHeart, User talk:BhargavKrishna97

Thanks for your deletion of the article I nominated! To me, it was clear that you deleted it using G11, which is evident from the deletion log. However, the creator, BhargavKrishna97, insisted that the article was neutral and informative (which seemed the contrary to me as it was like an advert), and said you invalidly deleted using G8 (however, that is because the page was dependent on the deleted G11 one). I believe those assertions to be incorrect, hence, could you look into this and kindly advise the editor? Many thanks. VickKiang (talk) 08:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

@VickKiang: Your tagging was correct, it was an advertisement which the company would have been happy to have on their own homepage and should not be undeleted. – Athaenara ✉ 09:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Can you please share more details on what makes my draft an advertisement. Please, I request you to help me understand why you believe the article would be tagged as an advertisement? BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 09:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Athaenara

I am 100% sure that the nominator, @VickKiang did not take the right decision by nominating my draft of Venus Remedies Limited for deletion under G11. Upon enquiring onto why he came to the specific conclusion that it is an advert or promotional write up, he just mentioned that I have used the word "Innovation". Truthfully there is not even one mention of the word in the main company description, the one he is pointing at is actually the name of few awards which are received by the company. I believe as people, we are no one to change or modify the names of awards which are officially awarded to specific entities.

This shows that editor did not review the article from a neutral mindset and he did not pay attention to various segments or where exactly certain words are placed which may be questionable. As a person who is dedicated towards contributing to the decentralization of Wiki, I strongly believe in incorporating only neutral and independent information onto Wiki space.

I would like to know your thoughts about the same issue. Please understand what I am trying to convey. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 09:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

@BhargavKrishna97: You're evidently trying to turn this into a brawl with a conscientious, knowledgable, and level-headed Wikipedia editor. That's not the sort of thing that benefits this encyclopedia. I recommend that you stop. – Athaenara ✉ 09:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

brawl? @Athaenara with all my respect towards you and @VickKiang, I am just trying to understand what went wrong in the article. I really want to fix it as this is my first article and I have spent a lot of time and efforts into understanding the Wiki guidelines. As a admin, please don't threaten me, I am genuinely expecting more insight about the issue we have here. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 09:26, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

@BhargavKrishna97: On the contrary, it is you who need more insight into the goals, policies, and guidelines of this encyclopedia. It is typical of new editors with a financial stake in one topic to go straight to that topic and ignore acquiring the skills and sensibilities Wikipedia editors need. You need to change your tune, and your behavior – Athaenara ✉ 09:34, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Financial Stake? I am not related to the organization. I am genuinely interested with their progress in the pharmaceutical space in the country. I can tweak the article if you can provide some more details onto what makes it stand undeleted And yes, I meant I myself need more insight about why @VickKiang and you believe that the article is against goals, policies and guidelines of encyclopedia. But I dont think you are ready to help me. I will stop the current thread of conversation with you and @VickKiang

Thank you for your time. BhargavKrishna97 (talk) 09:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Venus Remedies redux', or UTRS appeal #56917 FWIW, I'm not sure I would have deleted that latest iteration as g11. I probably would have sent SaffronHeart to WP:DRV instead of blocking w/o TPA. Best, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey, DFO, you're welcome to step in and unblock if you like (see my notice about my admin actions reversibility by other responsible admins, farther up the page on my bulletin board). – Athaenara ✉ 16:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Please Restore the deleted page Angel Rivera

→ in re: Angel Rivera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello, Hi Athaenara. I am new to Wikipedia and have really learned a lot today. I submitted my first article today and even though I read a lot and saw tons of tutorials I still missed it, my article was requested that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. As requested I have updated and disclosed the employer as per Wikipedia terms, as previously stated I am a freelancer and I write a lot of different content and articles for clients thanks to you all I have understood that there is a Wikipedia: Paid-contribution disclosure and editors are supposed to update that. Am sorry at first I was afraid and confused about what to tell you but now am confident and ready to learn, stay honest and transparent in all manners. Kindly I will highly appreciate your guidance in all cases I believe your assistance will matter a lot, I just wanted to create a simple article like this one for terry matalas about the person (Angel Rivera) he is a well-known person verified on Twitter with over a million followers has been a politician, an actor and is a fashion enthusiast he also runs a company that provides a safer career upcoming women models in America. please assist in reverting and advise me on the best way on recreating the page to meet the neutral requirements of a Wiki page and removing all promotional content on my page. Will highly appreciate your assistance.

Please can you help out me, with how to make my Article like other's Articles, kindly restore the page, and advise me on where I should do the corrections to meet the neutral standards, I don't need it to be a promotional page I just need it neutral and online really think that that article is valuable for Wikipedia and would kindly ask you to reconsider undeleting it, I will take on board the feedback I received and attempt to re-write this to meet wiki criteria. I would appreciate any feedback and support. Mambablaq.1 (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

[external links redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mambablaq.1 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mambablaq.1: Consider the following passage as just one example:

Rivera claims the throne of King of Fashion with his unorthodox approach to fashion. He is quoted as saying “There no limits in fashion, I see it as art. Every piece is special and everyone observes it differently. I push the boundaries with my work and I want my audience to have a visual experience unimagined.”

That kind of writing may be suitable for a fan magazine or in the subject's own advertisements. It does not belong in an encyclopedia. – Athaenara ✉ 18:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Navi Group

→ in re: Navi Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (AfD)
→ see also: User talk:JoyWhick, User talk:202.134.150.11, User talk:Chinmayajailwala

Athaenara, you deleted Navi Group as a G11, immediately after Graeme Bartlett restored it as a deleted PROD. I would assume Graeme would not have restored it if he saw it as problematic. I have declined the second undeletion request, but I wanted to know why you think the article was not neutral? Why do you think the article content could not be converted into a neutral tone, if it was not? Also, I notice no one had tagged the page for G11, nor did you tag it, but deleted it outright. Jay (talk) 07:13, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jay: As I said in my deletion summary, "regardless of "soft delete" this article is WP:SPAM". I encountered the page when I was checking the deleted contributions of one of the sockpuppet accounts which were used to create it (I linked their talk pages, which are now among the links I posted here under the section heading, in my deletion summary). – Athaenara ✉ 07:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Nym Network

→ in re: Nym Network (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Nym Network (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Admin,

You recently deleted a page I created. The Nym is the most talked about topic in the crypto world right now and I wanted to cover a page on it. It seems like I have made it read like an advertisement and thus the deletion. I would like to work on it again and improve it for Wikipedia. There are many references about Nym. Please guide me how to make it Encyclopedic and suitable for Wikipedia.

Thank you very much :) Consinger (talk) 09:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

@Consinger: Are there no other topics you wish to write about? – Athaenara ✉ 12:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Athaenara: I do! To create and update as well. For the COI, I have invested in Nym. Please check my userpage. I have declared the COI. Please allow me to work on Nym Network again. Consinger (talk) 06:55, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Consinger: More feedback is available on the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. – Athaenara ✉ 09:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Athaenara: Hello, I am sorry but I don't understand it. I am not here to promote the project. I will rework on the article again and submit it through AFC as instructed. Shall I use AFC and skip Sandbox for this? Please advise. Consinger (talk) 06:44, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

@Athaenara: Hey admin, can you please help me out here? I am sure I can fix my mistakes and create a page suitable for Wikipedia. I will really appreciate your support in this. Thank you Consinger (talk) 01:28, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

New European Bauhaus

Deleted page for G11 and G12

→ in re: Draft:New European Bauhaus (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Athaenara! I am new to Wikipedia and i submitted my first article yesterday : Draft:New European Bauhaus. Few times later it was deleted, and I noticed you tagged G11 and G12 on. Is it possible to get back the article and edit it ? If you say that the presentation seems directed by a promotion purpose, i obviously need to write differently some paragraphs. The purpose of this page is not to promote a company or a product, but to present an artistic movement launched by the European Commission, which makes date and reference like the historical Bauhaus movement. The point of view of this page is neutral because it's about providing information to the Wikipedia community about the context in which contemporary artistic projects emerge these last two years in Europe, so i think it totally deserves to be included. Thank you for your time Salila.sihou (talk) 10:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

No, it won't be undeleted. If this is the only topic you intend to write about here, you must declare your conflict of interest in promoting the subject (see {{UserboxCOI}}). – Athaenara ✉ 10:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Mariko Yoshihara

→ in re: User:Findiken/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Draft:Mariko A Yoshihara (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Mariko Yoshihara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Sandbox

Hi Athaenara, kindly restore my sandbox going to add more content to make them more reliable and more readable. Thanks... Findiken (talk) 05:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the deletion of SideQuestVR

→ in re: SideQuestVR (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi there, please can I retrieve the deleted material for future improvement. If you could offer advice on areas that were unambiguously promotional to aid in a rewrite that would be great as I followed all guidelines and the article was written from what I thought was an objective and neutral viewpoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cei.ansley (talk • contribs) 08:27, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

D. Bruce Means

→ in re: Draft:Donald Bruce Means (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), D. Bruce Means (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:D. Bruce Means (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), User:Billie J Jackson/Donald Bruce Means (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara. Why would you delete this page, it's a draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billie J Jackson (talk • contribs) 16:28, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@Billie J Jackson: You seem to have been assigned, by someone, the task of creating a Wikipedia page for your subject. You also seem to be slow to pick up on the fact that while this assignment of yours may be your primary concern, it is not Wikipedia's primary concern. – Athaenara ✉ 19:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Slow to pick up on what? Did I mention that this was, or should be, the highest priority of Wiki? I don't think so. I just want my draft reinstated. I thought Wiki was embracing a new helpful attitude toward new editors but that does not seem to be the case. You are 100% unprofessionally condescending and, worse of all, unhelpful. I'm going to report this because perhaps there will be someone that can actually help me with a draft that should never of been deleted in the first place. Billie J Jackson (talk) 00:26, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

After reading the comments above, it seems that I'm not the only person you are treating poorly. Hopefully my complaint will be of service for other new users of Wikipedia. Billie J Jackson (talk) 00:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

We have different perspectives. I'm a Wikipedia admin who specializes in protecting the encyclopedia from single-purpose accounts which are being used to promote particular people/topics/companies etc. (see WP:COI). What is the "new helpful attitude" you expected to encounter? – Athaenara ✉ 00:42, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Re: Bouqui

→ in re: Bouqui (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Bouqui (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), User:Adoseofnostalgia/Bouqui (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Athaenara,

I just noticed that you deleted the article I just created with the title Bouqui, while I was responding to the speedy deletion notice. I believe the article is of a notable Nigerian artiste and was written in a subjective manner. Please I need some clarification, as the subject meets the notability criteria for WP:BAND WP:MUSICBIO WP:SINGER.

I look forward to hearing from you.Adoseofnostalgia (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Ps: As I believe that the subject is notable, I would like to request that it be reversed to draft, to enable me work more on the structure and wording of the article. Thank you. Adoseofnostalgia (talk) 16:46, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Michael R. Klein

→ in re: Draft:Michael R. Klein (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Can I please get a copy of deleted material for Draft:Michael_R._Klein

If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. SPF121188 (talk this way) (contribs) 16:36, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_R._Klein

Red Oak Peninsular (talk) 17:36, 28 April 2022 (UTC) Red Oak Peninsular

No. It was unmitigated spam. – Athaenara ✉ 17:44, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

So that I might edit it down to an encyclopedic entry? I'm asking the favor to not to have my time wasted in hyperlinking etc. Red Oak Peninsular (talk) 18:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Re SPF121188 apologies I just copied the text of the talk note sent to me. Didn't realize that's another user. Red Oak Peninsular (talk) 18:13, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Jessica Corr

→ in re: Jessica Corr (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Jessica Corr (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Deleted Material Request

Re: 21:30, 5 May 2022 Athaenara (talk | contribs) deleted page Jessica Corr — Preceding unsigned comment added by SleepyWhippet (talk • contribs) 04:48, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Athaenara,

May I please be given a copy of the material on the deleted article for Jessica_Corr? I don't know if you'd be able to give this to me as a draft or in a talk page? As far as I remember the overall structure of the article might be salvageable as brief but well referenced biography, so I figured it may be good practice for me to try and work on point of view/neutrality with the help of the teahouse community. Thanks

PS -- in doing so, if you'd also be kind enough to point out your specific areas of concerns re G11 that'd obviously be amazingly helpful. SleepyWhippet (talk) 04:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Page created for Pratik Sen

→ in re: Pratik Sen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
→ see also: Draft:Pratik Sen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara,

I received the notification of speedy deletion of the page created for Pratik Sen, who is a very popular actor in Bengali cinema. I would like to know the reason(s) for the speedy deletion as there was no unambiguous advertising of the person - rather the complete profile on Pratik Sen. All information is factual after much research and validation.

As much as possible I have provided the reference links to articles keeping in mind the plagiarism guidelines as well as to corroborate the information provided.

Happy to update references which is possibly the only column that is incomplete for all works listed and/or clarify any information that comes across as incorrect or questionable.

Thanks Geeta — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnamikaWrites (talk • contribs) 10:26, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

It looks like Athaenara undeleted this based on your request. The CSD tag was still on it, and I ran across the material during a routine search for junk sources. I re-assessed and re-deleted the material as purely promotional and poorly sourced. If you need more details than that, let me know on my talk page. Otherwise, please use the draft article at Draft:Pratik Sen; fix it there and have it accepted through the AFC process. Kuru (talk) 11:44, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Lubna Marium/Lubnaa Marium

→ in re: Lubna Marium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Lubnaa Marium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Lubna Marium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, Lubna Marium was deleted by you & later by user:JBW. It was created again under Lubnaa Marium (probably by a sock) and have same problem. I think they have COI, should be deleted. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: I don't know about their COI, but deleted again as WP:SPAM. – Athaenara ✉ 18:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Ezekiel Olaleye

→ in re: Ezekiel Olaleye (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello Athaenara ✉ ,

The article of Ezekiel Olaleye which I was working on was deleted while I was trying to make necessary corrections in the article. I would appreciate if the article is reversed and I am given the opportunity to work on the article.

Thank you very much.

Warm regards.Major Lyte (talk) 00:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@Major Lyte: There is a world of difference between an encyclopedia article and a webpage designed to portray a subject in the most flattering terms possible. What you wrote was an example of the latter and is what is called WP:SPAM here on this encyclopedia. – Athaenara ✉ 02:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@Athaenara Thank you very much for your response. Kindly reverse the article so I can correct the misconceptions.Major Lyte (talk) 08:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft:MahaDAO

→ in re: Draft:MahaDAO (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please Reinstate my MahaDAO wiki

Hello there,

Recently you sent my draft of "MahaDao" for speedy deletion under the pretence of "unambiguous advertising". Can you clarify on what grounds this is advertising or promoting a company/group/product etc..? My draft was simply providing information on a notable topic regarding MahaDAO. If possible can you give me an in-depth explanation of how to avoid having this type of post deleted as the criteria for speedy deletion is not clear. My tone throughout the draft was neutral.

Any information on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Regards,

LexB77 (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Lex

@LexB77: The page you refer to as "my wiki" was straight up WP:SPAM and not a valid encyclopedia article. It's really rather appalling of you to try to insist that it was. – Athaenara ✉ 01:41, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Apologies for not using the correct nomenclature. Can you help me differentiate what the difference between my contribution was, to something like Cardano? The link you provided to WP:SPAM doesn't provide any insight, and I would like to learn where I went wrong, and what I can do to improve the contribution.

LexB77 (talk) 18:56, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Lex

@LexB77: A closer reading of the first section, Wikipedia:Spam#Advertisements masquerading as articles, should yield more of the insight you seek. Wikipedia:Single-purpose account may help you understand the scrutiny you're experiencing as well. – Athaenara ✉ 22:51, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

"Articles considered advertisements include those that are solicitations for a business, product or service, or are public relations pieces designed to promote a company or individual. Wikispam articles are usually noted for sales-oriented language and external links to a commercial website. However, a differentiation should be made between spam articles and legitimate articles about commercial entities."

"When an article on an otherwise encyclopedic topic has the tone of an advertisement, the article can often be salvaged by rewriting it in a neutral point of view. "

Again, forgive me but I don't see the difference in what was presented, and what is presented in this article Cardano . I modelled my format after this to ensure it was as neutral as possible. Additionally, my first contribution to wikipedia was this article, so it seems pre-mature to label me a " Wikipedia:single-purpose account ". LexB77 (talk) 00:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Lex

Permanente Medical Groups

→ in re: Permanente Medical Groups (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Permanente Medical Groups (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Deletion of Permanente Medical Groups Wikipedia page

Hello Athaenara,

I'm reaching out to request the restoration of the Permanente Medical Groups Wikipedia page that was recently tagged for speedy deletion. It is not intended to be "unambiguous advertising" as currently marked. This article was posted on behalf of The Permanente Federation to preserve the important history of the Permanente Medical Groups. I contributed this article as a first-time poster, so please let me know if there are any specific adjustments that you would like to be made in order to make this entry fall within Wikipedia guidelines.

Thank you in advance for your assistance and consideration.

Best,

Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by SidneyGarfield (talk • contribs) 16:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Good Glamm Group

Speedy deletion

Hi Athaenara,

contacting with respect to a page deleted today (Good Glamm Group). i had removed ALL promotional language and had made substantial changes in the article the moment it was G11 tagged.i believe G11 did not apply because the latter version was better and wsnot exclusively promotional and did not require a fundamental rewrite.Khgk (talk) 14:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

It's still spam, and apparently designed to give the company a Wikipedia presence which may make it appear to have more Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) than it actually has. – Athaenara ✉ 00:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Kaveh Moussavi (Jurist)/This deletion is incorrect.

→ in re: Kaveh Moussavi (Jurist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Kaveh Moussavi (Jurist)

This deletion is incorrect. We emphasize that this deletion was done incorrectly.

Released content has no copyright. it was under Openreach Policy.

It has to be back. Babak Sorkhpour 16:00, 4 June 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babakskr (talk • contribs)

Digital marketing

→ in re: Fundamentals of Digital Marketing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
→ see also: Draft:Digital Marketing Strategy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Concerning article deletion

Hi Athaenara, The page "Fundamentals of Digital Marketing" was deleted by you for unambiguous promotion, kindly tell me the errors I might have made so that I can rectify them and reupload the article. Regards FauxPriest1997 (talk) 11:14, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@FauxPriest1997: The page you wrote advertises a book. This is an encyclopedia. – Athaenara ✉ 12:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Athaenera, thank you for your reply, I did not intend to make an article for advertising purposes, i would be grateful if you would restore the article, I will make amends to that, and write a better and more objective version of it.FauxPriest1997 (talk) 06:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Qamar Khan deletion

→ in re: Draft:Qamar Khan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara,

You recently deleted a draft post (Draft: Qamar Khan) after it was flagged for speedy deletion. I understand the reasoning and I'm currently attempting a rewrite and identifying proper secondary sources to reference. I'm not sure if you are able to still see the deleted draft, but do you think that stripping back the information to the basic facts and reducing the referencing to only those solely focused on the referenced fact (as identified by nearlyevil665) would suffice in helping this article pass review? As the subject has recently been added to the Dambulla Giants Wikipedia page as the owner, I was trying to provide some background to him, but due to my connection with the subject I wanted to make my COI transparent. Qhamro (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

TPA removal?

Hey, earlier today you blocked Anton Godfrey for spamming (thanks!). They've now posted the same autobio content on their User talk:Anton Godfrey page, which I've reverted. Perhaps you wish to consider extending their block to include TPA? Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:05, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done. – Athaenara ✉ 12:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Globee Business Awards

→ in re: Draft:Globee Business Awards (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Regarding deletion of a well-meaning article that I had started

Hi Athaenara, Regarding the deletion of Draft:Globee Business Awards

Please consider -

1. A similar article - Stevie Awards on Wikipedia encouraged me to write about the Globee Awards.
2. The article I started writing is not meant for their promotion or advertising, nor am I being paid to do so. Though I have a connection as a previous judge and winner of the Globee awards, I need to declare my conflict of interest.
3. Several noted people having their biographies on Wikipedia are awarded the Globee Awards, e.g., Julie Meyer, Bill Conner, and Julia Skupchenko

Since this is my first Wikipedia article so my tone may not be accurate, can you allow me to re-write it from a neutral view? Regards, Ambar.Prajapati (talk) 23:12, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ambar.Prajapati: That wasn't an encyclopedia article, that was a promotional blurb sourced entirely to the company's own website advertising itself. – Athaenara ✉ 02:00, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Athaenara: Understood. However, can we ignore important activities around the globe by private entities? Renowned organizations from many countries have been participating in the Globee Awards for the past two decades. In my deleted article, you may see I researched and provided data on 35 countries winning Gold in the past five years. You may find hundreds of web pages besides the company mentioning them. Should we categorize writing about them as promotions? I don't want to be biased but be able to document and present facts as they stand. Your thoughts? Thank you - Ambar.Prajapati (talk) 04:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ambar.Prajapati: This is an encyclopedia, not a free listing service for every entity for which someone wishes to provide exposure. – Athaenara ✉ 05:40, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Athaenara. Referring to Encyclopedia "..its accumulation of general, universal knowledge practically everything that it is necessary to know". The Globee Awards is also a legitimate entry under the List of business and industry awards. I could not imagine that I initiated the article for listing or exposing an entity; instead, its an open topic for critical public reading. Ambar.Prajapati (talk) 14:43, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Page ARPM

→ in re: Draft:ARPM (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Sorry, you deleted page ARPM. I havent planned to make it public. That page was created for the job interview. Can you please bring it back, or just let me show it to the company? Vladimir Mladenov (talk) 17:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

sneaky sneaky

→ see also: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thegoravsharma

he thinks he's sneaky PRAXIDICAE🌈 14:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, Athaenara. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Masihan (talk) 12:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Assuming the email was in relation to Meghdad Sharif, I've re-deleted it. If you (Masihan) feel you can write an article based on this that complies with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality, reliable sourcing and biographies of living people, then I'll recreate it as a noindexed (that is, invisible to search engines) draft for you to work on, but a completely unsourced biography of a living person is totally inappropriate for Wikipedia. ‑ Iridescent 13:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Iridescent: Very well said indeed. – Athaenara ✉ 13:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear Athaenara ,

thank you for your time and approach, honestly i work on iranian contemporary art and i want present iranian architects and artist internationally to present a real face of iranian young artist to the world that is really different with what media and networks show to people . But i'm in the beginning of this way and maybe this is the reason of your feeling about my text ,

Im really interest to see your draft to learn about the process and i will do my best for next pages,

As your nickname the god of wisdom bless you for your time and your help Masihan (talk) 16:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Mark Sergienko

→ in re: Draft:Mark Sergienko (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Mark Sergienko - Good afternoon! please restore the article of this person, it complies with the Wikipedia policy, the person got on the state, federal channel 1 of Russia at the age of 12, there were also many authoritative sources! --Karol DEO (talk) 20:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Karol DEO: not going to happen, you're spamming Wikipedia for people who pay you to do it. – Athaenara ✉ 21:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Property Finder deletion

→ in re: Property Finder Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Property Finder Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Athaenara, I don't have any connection with the company Property Finder Group. I am not paid neither to create any content. I am living between Dubai and Africa and using websites for my personal use. There are not lot of pages created for websites in the areas Africa/Mena and It's why I was adding Property finder. It's the leader of the real estate platforms in UAE and It doesn't have even a wikipedia page. You can find lot of references in wikipedia for propertyfinder.ae, propertyfinder.eg... Thanks for taking the time to have a look to this page. ~~Lolomfirst~~ — Preceding undated comment added 12:21, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

@Lolomfirst: I haven't speculated about any COI on your part, one of the taggers added that. In any case, the page came across as an uncritical advertisement for a company. – Athaenara ✉ 12:41, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Athaenarafor your feedbacks. I will review the content from a more critical point of view. Once done, should I just recreate it or can I ask your opinion first? Lolomfirst (talk) 10:03, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@Lolomfirst: What you've written is basically a description of a real estate company that one might expect to find on a page listing similar companies, it is by no stretch of the imagination an encyclopedia article. – Athaenara ✉ 10:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

T-Low Badman Alahji

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Deleted Page for "T-Low Badman Alahji"

Hi Athaenara,

I hope you are doing well. You recently deleted a page "T-Low Badman Alahji". Kindly assist me with the information in the article so I may work on it as a draft. Also kindly help me identify which specific parts of the article were promotional because I believe I wrote it from a Neutral Point of View based on the biography of T-Low as supported by the most reliable sources in Zambia where T-low comes from. Note that these sources have also been used elsewhere on Wikipedia so that should speak to their relevance.

Making mistakes is normal and I would accept them if you show me where I made them. I would appreciate the concrete constructive criticism that will help improve the article and others in future.

Thank you.

Zedpedia (talk) 11:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@Zedpedia: The pages you wrote were both deleted per {{db-g11}} as spam because that's what they were. Note that phrasing like "received positive reviews" and "shot to fame" are not appropriate. This might be less mysterious to you if you compare articles about genuinely notable artists such as The Beatles, Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, or Lulu with what you have been writing about Mr. Chipasha/T-Low. – Athaenara ✉ 12:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay @Athaenara. That makes a lot of sense. I am definitely following.

Would you be kind enough to move the article to draft or give me the information in the article so I may work on it and also review it when I am done editing it? Zedpedia (talk) 13:29, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

No, and I think you should take the advice you were given at User talk:Seraphimblade#Recreating a Page Similar to the Previously Deleted Page with the Name "T-Low Badman Alahji" very seriously. – Athaenara ✉ 15:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Zedpedia (talk) 08:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Athaenara I created a new draft for the page "T-Low BadMan Alahji" which is available here Draft:T-Low_Badman_Alahji

Would you be kind enough to review this version in order to move it to the mainspace? Thank you. Zedpedia (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

No. – Athaenara ✉ 20:23, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

spam

→ in re: User Blueglassesb (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

it doesn't appear they care about any of your warnings PRAXIDICAE🌈 00:51, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Thanks for the heads up. – Athaenara ✉ 01:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Medical Advantage company

→ in re: Draft:Medical Advantage company draft (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
→ see also: Draft:Medical Advantage Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Draft:Medical Advantage Company (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Athaenara, I don't understand why you removed the page I created for Medical Advantage. I thought Wikipedia wants pages for bona fide companies. I created the Levenger company page 11 years ago, and it is still live here on Wikipedia. This doesn't make sense that you removed the Medical Advantage page so quickly. Wikipedia already has a bad reputation for being unfair, so you shouldn't have done that. At least let me edit it as you see fit. Grattan33 (talk) 04:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC) Grattan33 Grattan33 (talk) 04:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Please see my reply in my talk page. Thanks! VickKiang (talk) 04:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@Grattan33: I'm not going to question your qualifications. I must simply point out that there was nothing encyclopedic about the page you wrote. It was like an entry one might find in a list of similar companies where each company supplies its own self-description for some business website, not an encyclopedia. – Athaenara ✉ 05:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Grattan33, I just wanted to add that Wikipedia standards have changed a lot in the 11 years since you wrote the Levenger company article. There are plenty of articles that were put directly into the main space of the project 10 years ago that would be tagged for deletion or moved to Draft space if the same article was created today. There is less allowance given for improving articles over a long period of time and, unless the article is a stub, there is an expectation that the articles will be adequately sourced pretty soon after creation. That's why we encourage editors to take advantage of creating articles in Draft space, an area of the project where drafts can be developed over time and are less likely to be tagged for deletion. There they can be submitted for AFC review or moved to main space when the page creator thinks they are in good enough shape to pass review by a New Page Patroller. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:55, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, think of how much smaller and less helpful Wikipedia would be today if the standards hadn't been so reasonable before! :) It has become so cumbersome that if there is a Wikipedia article about a person, and that person themselves wanted to fix an error about themselves, they literally cannot do that unless there is "sourced" material. Grattan33 (talk) 20:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Nuure Hassan

Hello, you have deleted the page I created Nuure Hassan. With references provided. Wadani1234 (talk) 17:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Wadani1234: Your page said that your subject is a "social media personality" and then listed Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter links. That is not what this encyclopedia is for. – Athaenara ✉ 12:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Stokastic.com

→ in re: Draft:Stokastic.com (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. This was not supposed to be spam. I provided several references (reputable companies, such as DraftKings) that gave details on who the subject of the page is and details about his company. This page was no different than the other DFS-related pages already in existence: RotoGrinders, FantasyGuru.com, etc...please advise how I can work within your guidelines; I've already read through the how-to's provided by Wikipedia and thought I followed the rules. Please advise. Dfsguy01 (talk) 15:10, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I originally tagged this for CSD. It’s clearly ad like, unencyclopedic, and with unreliable refs, mostly to the company itself. The other page might not always follow NPOV but is mostly neutral, please inform if you have a COI (Conflict of interest, I believe you have read the guideline?). I will post a message on your talk page also, otherwise, thanks for contributing! VickKiang (talk) 09:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of 100% Records

→ in re: 100% Records (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (AfD)

Hi, I definitely wasn't trying to create an advertising page. I inserted a large number of reputable references and after I was advised that one of my references had to change I modified it immediately. This page was similar to other Independent Record Label pages, such as: Rough Trade Records, Hyperdub, Mute Records, Domino Recording Company and many others. Please let me know more information on why my page was deleted?

Ericwriter (talk) 09:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Jean Paul Laurent

→ in re: Jean Paul Laurent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello Athaenara, Thank you for you kind message. I am definitely not trying to create an advertising page, specially taking on account that Jean Paul Laurent heads a non profit organization, is well known for his humanitarian labor, he participates as a consultative for the United Nations and was award with President Obama’s Volunteer Service Award 2016. I will try my best restructurating the information so it doesn't look like breaking wikipedia guidelines. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leyregrande (talk • contribs) 08:48, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Justerini & Brooks

→ in re: Justerini & Brooks (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I tagged this page for speedy because it has all the signs of being a corporate maintained article. I agree it needs cleaning up; the problem is, I've cleaned it up before and it's all been reverted to "peacock mode" by a sus account. I've already reported it to Project Spam and put a COI message w/ evidence on the talk page. Anything else I should do to make sure the right people see it? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 04:07, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Aye, I do see that there is a problem there. So far, I have blocked user RachyetaSingh (talk). I don't know whether there are more such accounts being used to make their company look good. [The Justerinis account (talk) was addressed in 2012 and hasn't been used for editing since.] – Athaenara ✉ 05:09, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Should I restore my changes from before? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 06:04, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, I restored the last clean version as edited by BrownHairedGirl. – Athaenara ✉ 07:39, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

take a look...

at their deleted contribs just *today*. Would you please block them or pblock them from mainspace? PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:24, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Yeah, blocked, guy just wouldn't quit! – Athaenara ✉ 13:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

BTW, there were three doing this: Anselmo00, Jdtw2022, Koomels. – Athaenara ✉ 13:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Pretty sure Jdtw was hired by Anselmo because Anselmo says on commons that it's "his" podcast...so either way, just a massive spam campaign. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Criptoloja deletion

→ in re: Draft:Criptoloja (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara,

On June 12th You deleted a draft post (Draft: Criptoloja) It was my first contribution to wikipedia and I'm unsure what was wrong, as I modeled the page to others very similar in different countries example: Bitoasis Exchange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitOasis_Exchange Mercado Bitcoin https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercado_Bitcoin can you please help me fix what is wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Consumering (talk • contribs) 07:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Learnbay

Hi Athaenara, You have deleted my draft I am editing the content.(Draft:Learnbay). Please retrieve it so I can edit the content PatrickSmith07 (talk) 13:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

No, you're writing spam, I don't undelete spam. – Athaenara ✉ 13:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

NFTStudio24

→ in re: Draft:NFTStudio24 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), NFTStudio24 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
→ see also: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Annabananaxii

Delete Draft:NFTStudio24

Dear Athaenara,

I respect your decision to delete the draft but I was follow all rules of Wikipedia and create the draft for , If if was paid or other issue then it should be mention on draft submission area,

kindly give some space and restore the draft.

I am very thankful to you.Draft:NFTStudio24 Kyle154 (talk) 06:32, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Need your guidance to create the Draft:NFTStudio24

@Athaenara, please guide me that which part you of the draft is look like ads content, I need your guidance.

Waiting for your positive response. Kyle154 (talk) 06:42, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi @athenara ,

I need your guidance to create the draft according to Wikipedia policy, I was trying to add reliable sources, but still, some editors do not give some space to work on the wiki.

I am here to work and contribute my effort in the right direction, but there is no one to guide and correct my mistake.

Please guide me and let me know where I am wrong.

Regards

Kyle Kyle154 (talk) 06:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Astera Software

→ in re: Draft:Astera Software (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi,

My draft page for the company Astera Software was deleted for being promotional. I have since then reshaped the entire content of the page and removed all links that lead to the company's website. I have now only included that information for which there are citations that are from 3rd party websites and authors. Please let me know if the draft is fine now; its very brief and will only take a minute to go over.Draft:Astera Software.

Thanks! Abdullahmehta (talk) 05:12, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

@Abdullahmehta: It's obvious you're here solely to promote that company. Such contributions are not suitable for an encyclopedia. – Athaenara ✉ 05:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi. Could you kindly let me know how this company page can be made without being promotional. Is it the language use? or the lack of reliable sources? Is the company simply not well-cited enough by reliable 3rd party articles to warrant a page? Please do let me know what the issues are. Millions of company pages exist without being struck for promotional content, and I've gone through all of Wikipedia's guidelines to figure out how to achieve that. I would really appreciate your help. Abdullahmehta (talk) 05:30, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Abdullahmehta. I am just passing by, but your references appear very weak to me. At least one is overtly based on a company press release so is worthless. Another is "reader supported" and relies on "affiliate commissions". That is also of no value. Then we have "Customer Success Report", which shows no evidence of reliability. The Bloomberg reference is to a routine database entry and does not constitute significant coverage. Acceptable Wikipedia articles summarize significant coverage by independent reliable sources. When I look at your draft, I simply do not see that there is any such coverage, at least as shown in the draft at this time. Cullen328 (talk) 05:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the feedback! Really helps Abdullahmehta (talk) 05:55, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Beware of Christians

→ in re: Beware of Christians (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Did you look at the sources? Almost every single one is from the film's official website. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Just Another Cringy Username: After giving it more thought on and off today, I replaced your {{db-spam}} tag a few minutes ago so more admins can see it in the speedy deletion category and assess it. – Athaenara ✉ 01:31, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of GoArt Metaverse

→ in re: GoArt Metaverse (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:GoArt Metaverse (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara, You deleted the article ‘’GoArt Metaverse’’. Is it possible to assist me with the information, so I may work on it as an article that can ‘stay’ on Wikipedia. I believed that I wrote it neutral and I was definitely not trying to create an advertising page. is it okay if i just open it with an entry that states what it is? (like: User:DieFohlen/sandbox) I wanted just create a page which was similar to other articles like Meta AI. Please let me know. DieFohlen (talk) 12:45, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of SocialScholar sandbox

→ in re: User:SocialScholar/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
→ see also: Draft:George Sfougaras (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara, you deleted a sandbox that I had created which I was using as a space to draft a new article. I understand from rsjaffe that you did this with good reason, as I had inadvertently breached Wikipedia's copyright regulations. As an inexperienced Wikipedia contributor, I was unaware of the rule against including direct quotes or close paraphrasing, and so I am glad to have been alerted to that, and will ensure I don't do it again. I would like to ask if you could kindly reinstate my sandbox as a Draft, minus the quotation, as I was still in the early stage of drafting and had intended to provide external sources for the text in every row of the table I had created. I will do my best to follow correct Wikipedia procedures and will send it for review when ready.

Many thanks - I look forward to hearing from you. SocialScholar SocialScholar (talk) 15:47, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@SocialScholar: I can't undelete part of your single edit to that page. Start over if you must, and please don't send me anything to review. – Athaenara ✉ 16:10, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

OK, many thanks. SocialScholar (talk) 17:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

New Horizon Soft

→ in re: Draft:New Horizon Soft (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and User talk:PhilippeRambachan

thanks

for this and applying actual common sense! PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:43, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

DJ Consequence

→ in re: DJ Consequence (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (AfD), DJ consequence (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

This was salted by you back in May but has now been created as DJ consequence, with lower case c. Theroadislong (talk) 15:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: Jayzuss, I quickly grew to hate these salting things and hope I never do another, can someone else please deal with the consequences (sorry ;) of this? – Athaenara ✉ 16:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Wyatt Coleman

→ in re: Draft:Wyatt Coleman (Rapper) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Looking to retrieve article to remove unambiguous advertising and fundamentally rewrite it in order to become encyclopedic.

Looking to retrieve the article you deleted of mine to fix all errors for compliance with guidelines etc. thank you! Witman21 (talk) 18:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Dnt delete my articles

Dnt delete my articles

Or delete all of my contribution in last 10 years on Wikipedia Sana Ul Haq Swat - Pakistan (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

LinksDAO

→ in re: LinksDAO (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
→ see also: User:Ckelly627/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara, thank you for reviewing my article on LinksDAO. Yes, I am a member of the organization, but I felt that the style of the article was encyclopedic in nature, as I cited reputable third-party news sources on the launch of the organization and its structure, while trying not to promote or advertise. If you could please note the areas in the draft that you flagged for these reasons, I would be happy to go back and edit in order to be in compliance with Wikipedia guidelines. Thank you! Ckelly627 (talk) 15:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC) Ckelly627 (talk) 15:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ckelly627: You wrote a page, for pay, for a company that's raising money to buy a golf course. Another Wikipedia editor tagged it for {{db-g11}} deletion as spam and I deleted it. I did not "review" it, and I will not aid you in your efforts to please your employer. – Athaenara ✉ 15:45, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

To clarify, there are similar organizations out there that have had pages successfully published (see ConstitutionDAO) that have done crowdfunding efforts to purchase something. This one is looking to buy a golf course, as opposed to the U.S. Constitution. I am a member of the decentralized organization and was tasked to write the page, but I do not see any differences in the style of this page vs. other pages that have been accepted. Ckelly627 (talk) 15:57, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

I guess you haven't read Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. – Athaenara ✉ 16:22, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Fair point. However, I believe that the tone of the article that I wrote was neutral. If this was deemed as not the case, I would happily re-write it to rewrite the sections that were deemed as promotional Ckelly627 (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

FYI

→ in re: users Ghadamakhouls (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and DavidBasser (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

this is the alternate account of DavidBasser. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:20, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Where will I see evidence of that? – Athaenara ✉ 18:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you have OTRS access? I also sent it to the paid queue this morning, based on their upwork profile which I can't link here due to outing. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:31, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Nope. It can wait, anyway. – Athaenara ✉ 18:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

I mean, fine, you're on it, I don't need to know right away :-) – Athaenara ✉ 18:38, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

This strongly suggests you are correct, same deterioration of English language facility from both accounts. – Athaenara ✉ 19:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

FWIW, they posted one of their drafts from the other account on their Upwork profile while logged in so it's pretty obvious. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Why Pablo Taveras's page got deleted?

→ in re: Draft:Pablo Taveras (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

They are writing about my biography. Lolatpablo (talk) 01:29, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

• Because it was unambiguous advertising and promotion and thus eligible for speedy deletion per {{db-G11}}, as can be seen in the page logs linked above. – Athaenara ✉ 01:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Jaipal Pandya

→ in re: Draft:Jaipal Pandya (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), see also User talk:Jaipal Pandya

FYI

[1] WP:AB. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 06:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Pages deleted

→ in re: Southern Guild (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Southern Guild (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Marjan van Aubel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Emily Gernild (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (AfD)
→ see also: Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 378#File: Southern Guild

Dear Athaenara, Hope you are well. You have deleted the entries for Southern Guild, Marjan van Aubel and Emily Gernild. All three are aligned with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality, reliable sourcing and biographies of living people and galleries.

Southern Guild In order to optimise the representation of African art and artists, I have created the page for Southern Guild which is the only African art gallery on Wikipedia. It is the most important and prominent gallery on the continent. They are represented at international art fairs and championing African artists. I have looked at Western galleries on Wikipedia and followed the same formatting and references. Is there a reason why you aren't interested in African art? Please recreate the page as this is an important contribution to the history of art on the continent. The gallery is as important as the White Cube in London.

Marjan van Aubel Dutch designer Marjan van Aubel co-designed the winning pavilion at the global architecture fair Expo last year and the founder of the solar biennale. Her innovative work is part of the permanent collections at MOMA and some of the most important museums around the world. She has developed designs and solutions with universities and brands - and even given a TED talk. I do not understand why you have deleted the entry. Please recreate the page. The photographer has been in touch with the Wikipedia team about the portrait, giving her permission to use it. I have used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daan_Roosegaarde as a reference to create the page. There were so many articles backing up all the content, from credible newspapers.

Emily Gernild One of the most important female artists working in Denmark today. Her work is owned by the Crown Princess Mary of Denmark and the Prince of Belgium. Her work has been exhibited internationally and she is part of a new movement of female artists in Denmark. It is extremely important that people know about female artists, including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mie_Olise There are so many male artists featured on Wikipedia and it would be good to raise awareness around more female artists. Please recreate the page.

All three are aligned with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality, reliable sourcing and biographies of living people and galleries.

Many thanks, Louise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moceroci (talk • contribs) 17:13, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Moceroci: They were not neutral and well-supported with independent WP:RS, they were written as if by the subjects' own agents, managers, publicists, etc. – Athaenara ✉ 18:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

HighPoint Technologies

→ in re: Draft:HighPoint Technologies, Inc. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Speedy deletion of HighPoint Technologies, Inc. (Please Undelete This Is Not Advertorial)

Hi Athaenara, You deleted my newly created page ‘’HighPoint_Technologies,_Inc.’’. Is it possible to assist me with the information, so I may work on how to add this back. We are a storage solution company, that works with many integrated solutions for Mac, PC, Linux, etc for PCIe controller cards, mother boards, and solutions for HBA, USB, SAS/SATA products. HighPoint has been in business since around 1995, and is positioned well among it's competitors and integrated solutions partners, that have pages on Wikipedia. Some of these companies are dominantly on Wikipedia, and we need to show up as we are not getting a lot from Wikipedia. That is why I marked it as paid content writing, because we have a content writing team, and I work for the company directly in Marketing or IT related activities for our website traffic. Can you please let me know what I can do differently to not have the page deleted. When I posted it I noticed an error about 'paid' writing content, perhaps I put the tag in wrong, I read that it was a 4-month review process, and that if I continue making edits it will likely stay alive. We are not a spam company, and as far as things like RAID controller cards go we are leading the marketing, almost everyone who has seen HighPoint turn into what it is today, to present are avid customers and proud of our product. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.114.102.58 (talk) 20:27, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

The page was extremely promotional and had zero references to any sources at all, much less the WP:RS required on Wikipedia. It doesn't matter how notable the company and it's employees think it is, any article about it here must show real notability as per this encyclopedia's policies and guidelines. – Athaenara ✉ 20:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Can you please try to explain how other business organizations that have been around less, or are even our partners are able to maintain pages?

A lot of our products are our own inventions, and most people in the industry that use our PCIe cards find the products a singular product that is irreplaceable.

Communities in computer science, and engineering would gladly say it is an underestimated product, that belongs on wikipedia and information communities. What do we need to do differently?

We listed our twenty year history in innovations, none of it was promotional.

I can go back and add citations again, I had added dozens of internal linking sources like SAS, HBA, SATA, PCIe etc. And, I did think this was a feature which would automatically populate. Would you please be so kind as to explain how to add citations? Please give our page another article submission. Any of our competitors and smaller organizations in the community we are headquartered in maintain pages, and we are likely a much more informative source as an OEM, ODM, VAR category company, where people constantly use our product throughout industries and scientific verticals including machine learning, AI, OCP, etc. 23.114.102.58 (talk) 21:54, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

You want to use Wikipedia to raise your company's public profile. That is NOT what Wikipedia is for, and you will not be encouraged or supported or assisted here in your efforts to misuse it. – Athaenara ✉ 23:25, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of William John Titus Bishop

→ in re: Draft:William John Titus Bishop (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey,

Many thanks for your deletion of Draft:William John Titus Bishop. For future referenvce, might I ask what you mean by 'promotion' and 'advertsing'. It is my intention to do neither.

Kindest Regards,

John JohnEricHiggs (talk) 20:50, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

@JohnEricHiggs: User Randykitty (talk · contribs) tagged it and may be willing to discuss that with you further if you ask. I searched for better sources myself and found only non-independent subject-generated material as for example facebook, imdb, etc. – Athaenara ✉ 21:25, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Athaenara,

I haven't reviewed this article version but I just wanted to let you know that many articles about this musician, under a variety of different titles, both in main space and draft space, have been deleted over the past 2 years because of undisclosed paid editing. As I said, I haven't reviewed the sources in this particular version but I'm sure that seeing another version of a William Bishop article probably was seen as a red flag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:44, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

FYI, it's interesting to see who wrote this press release for Bishop. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:18, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Ha, wrote it himself! With Higgs! – Athaenara ✉ 10:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

It gives new meaning to harmless-sounding questions like "might I ask what you mean by promotion and advertising" and bald lies like "it is my intention to do neither". – Athaenara ✉ 10:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

DiJones Real Estate

→ in re: Draft:DiJones Real Estate (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Speedy deletion of DiJones Real Estate

Hi Anthaenara, you deleted the article "DiJones Real Estate" for speedy deletion. I believe that this was written in a neutral tone and was informative about the company and its founder. I have re-written the article after reading the help articles on Wikipedia including - FAQ organizations, Help- your first article and Wikipedia spam, Am I able to resubmit the revised version for you to review? Diji1891 (talk) 01:29, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

@Diji1891: You're welcome to try, of course. I won't be reviewing it myself. – Athaenara ✉ 02:53, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

I should point out that what you thought was neutral was not at all in conformity with Wikipedia guidelines and policies (WP:NPOV), so that would need considerable re-working. – Athaenara ✉ 02:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Gigglebug Entertainment

→ in re: Gigglebug Entertainment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Gigglebug Entertainment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), User:Jjanhone/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
→ see also: WP:AN Archive 345#Is disclosed paid editing allowed and WP:AN Archive 345#Community ban discussion - Jjanhone

Gigglebug Entertainment to Draft space

Hello! Could you please move the Gigglebug Entertainment article you deleted today to the Draft space so I could continue working on it? Jjanhone (talk) 13:24, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

There's already one draft there but it is not the same I was working for. Jjanhone (talk) 17:15, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

FREEE Recycle Limited

→ in re: User:Dumebiok/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), FREEE Recycle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Speedy deletion of FREEE Recycle Limited Draft

Hi Anthaenara, you recently put up the article "FREEE Recycle Limited" for speedy deletion. I believe that this was written in a neutral tone and was informative about the company and its operations. I understand that you cited (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) please assist me that i may write an article that can stay on Wikipedia. i was not trying to create an advertising page.

Thank you. Dumebiok (talk) 22:40, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Dumebiok: Advertising is exactly what you were doing. – Athaenara ✉ 22:46, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, kindly assist on how i might go about drafting the article, so it does not portray the intent of advertising or promotion. Dumebiok (talk) 10:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

@Dumebiok: You were given advice on your own talk page about where to seek assistance. – Athaenara ✉ 11:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

draft: Fariman Jabbarzadeh

→ in re: Fariman Jabbarzadeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Fariman Jabbarzadeh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Athaenara,

Could you please provide more explanation for speedily deleting the article for creation "Fariman Jabbarzadeh"? Everything which was said in the article was referenced and has been updated and edited accordingly to all users' comments.

Also, please make the draft's text available again for reviewing the content.

Thanks.

Yaroslava Romanova Yaroslava Romanova (talk) 06:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

@Yaroslava Romanova: I undeleted the article (the draft page was just a redirect to it) and another administrator deleted it again (see page logs). – Athaenara ✉ 08:41, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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