Talk:Vulgar auteurism

Reliable source?

https://filmspectacle.tumblr.com/tagged/vulgar-auteurism Espngeek (talk) 14:42, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Looks like a blog, so probably not a reliable source. See WP:USERGENERATED. PaintTrash (talk) 13:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Looking more closely at the article, I see that another Tumblr blog, "vulgarauteurism.tumblr.com", has been used for quite a lot of the entries on the list of film examples. I think at the very least the entries on the list with only user generated content as a source for its inclusion ought to be removed, but I'm also not sure if such an extensive list is necessary in the first place. Perhaps that list as well as the list of directors could be made into paragraphs instead, discussing what it is that makes the most notable directors and films so notable. PaintTrash (talk) 13:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I've deleted most of the list items that are sourced only by the Tumblr blog "Vulgar Auteurism". I'm aware that according to the article text this blog was apparently important to its creators in the development of the idea of vulgar auteurism but this assertion is not itself reliably sourced. Even if true I also do not believe that this makes a reliable source as to whether a film is actually notable. PaintTrash (talk) 14:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

It's now on Internet Archive Espngeek (talk) 17:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

The Spectacle of Cinema Espngeek (talk) 16:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

More reliable sources?

Vulgar Auteurs on Spotify Espngeek (talk) 02:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Lehtonen's original list on MUBI Espngeek (talk) 03:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Do we really think a podcast called vulgar auteurs on spotify is a valid source? A lot of the movies they cover don't seem to fall into the purview of what is defined as "vulgar auteurism". Tristmist (talk) 20:25, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

They did cover the films of Roland Emmerich, Michael Bay, The Wachowski Sisters and Zack Snyder; each labeled as a "vulgar autuer". Espngeek (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Description: "Cinemecca is proud to welcome you to the Vulgar Auteurs. Join Paco McCullough, Jason Haskins and Terry Cleveland (our resident cinephiles) as they take a deep dive into the filmographies of some of the industry’s most beloved, and sometimes not so beloved genre directors. You’ll laugh, you’ll cry (maybe) and above all you might learn a little about what makes these directors so well known, and the impact they’ve had on the film industry altogether." Espngeek (talk) 21:30, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

By name itself doesn't necessarily mean they are talking about vulgar auteurs. I'll have to listen to the episodes to check if they do mention vulgar auteurism or whether or not that happens to be a dressing for a podcast name. Tristmist (talk) 05:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Repeated sources

Both the Richard Brody and Variety sources have been repeated multiple times. I don't know what to do. Espngeek (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

List was excessively long

Hi, just posting to let you know that I've significantly cut down the list of directors and removed the list of films. I don't think the films list is necessary at all; the phrase itself is more about the auteurs/directors themselves, not their films, it's not a cohesive style and listing films doesn't really make a great deal of sense in this context.

For the directors I cut out most of the ones with only one or two citations. I think what remains is now excessively referenced but it is a better list - there were quite a few well respected directors on the list where it didn't make a great deal of sense to classify them as "vulgar auteurs" just because they were discussed on a podcast by that name.

This has unfortunately broken some of the references at the bottom of the page that are no longer being used and is causing an error to display - sorry for not sorting this out but I wasn't sure how to fix it.

PaintTrash (talk) 17:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)