Talk:Tuileries Palace

Destruction during the 1871 Commune

Supporters of the Paris Commune destroyed most of the palace in 1871.

They didn't "destroy" it, large part of Paris was destroyed when the army attacked Paris, the fighters of the commune fought against the army house to house. According to Lissagaray the palace burnt down because of shelling:

With nightfall the shooting slackened, but the shelling still went on. A red light glared in the Tuileries; the Ministry of Finance was burning. It had during the whole day received part of the Versaillese shells, destined for the terrace of the Tuileries, and the papers piled up in its upper storeys had taken fire. The firemen of the Commune had at first extinguished this conflagration, interfering with the defence of the St. Florentin redoubt, but it had soon lit up again, and become unquenchable. [1]

I will try to find suitable wording and change the article accordingly.--130.161.31.140 1 July 2005 14:10 (UTC)

Rebuilding the palace

Regarding rebuilding the palace - the claim that "since 2003, the idea has gained momentum in French media", is simply incorrect, to my knowledge there is no genuine debate of anything besides a small group of people who appear to try to push their point across wikipedia ... Ajani (talk) 13:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Modified the paragraph and added a ref. --Robert.Allen (talk) 18:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

There is a genuine debate of a plan to rebuild the palace, which has nothing to do with "a small group of people who appear to try to push their point across wikipedia..." Please read the following,

• http://www.senat.fr/questions/base/2008/qSEQ080604809.html

published in the Journal Officiel du Sénat on 12 June 2008 - a more recent date than the 2006 one given in article:

Projet de reconstruction du palais des Tuileries 13 ème législature

Question écrite n° 04809 de Mme Catherine Dumas (Paris - UMP)

Journal Officiel du Sénat, 12 June 2008, p. 1146

• Mme Catherine Dumas attire l'attention de Mme la ministre de la culture et de la communication sur le projet de reconstruction du Palais des Tuileries.

Réponse du Ministère de la culture et de la communication

Journal Officiel du Sénat, 28 August 2009, p. 1729

--Frania W. (talk) 01:47, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

A genuine debate between some people that are passionate about it, maybe, but certainly not a public debate among the French or Parisians in general (I'm French and was Parisian until recently). I had never heard of this. The answer from the culture ministry shows that the project is not gonna happen anytime soon considering the number of issues it poses. Aesma (talk) 21:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article on rebuilding the Tuileries Palace is written from a strong POV in favor of rebuilding, and no reference to controversial debate is shared. Violations of NPOV: several reasons for rebuilding section, the "famous" perspective, "the Musée du Louvre needs to expand its ground", "if the Tuileries Palace were rebuilt...", "It is argued that recreating the state apartments of the Tuileries would allow the display of these treasures". These sentences should be rewritten to yield a NPOV, AND the opposing debate side should be included here. Public surveys should also be shared if available: what is the actual public support of rebuilding? This does sound like it's written from the perspective of somebody eager to rebuild, and their editing Wikipedia to push that perspective as if it's the default, "correct" view. -- 22 May 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.233.121 (talk) 14:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Map of the current Louvre

The Tuileries Palace (white) was located at the west end of the Louvre, closing off the Louvre courtyard

This map includes I.M. Pei's Pyramid, so it shows the Louvre as it has been since 1988. The current caption, as shown here, does not make clear that this is a map of the contemporary Louvre and shows the location of the former Tuileries Palace. Also, it seems odd to me that it should be placed at the top of the History section on the Tuileries Palace and (on my computer at least) is displayed next to the paragraph discussing the Tuileries Palace during the reign of Louis XIV. Many of the structures shown here were not added until the 19th century. --Robert.Allen (talk) 03:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

The appearance of the Louvre now is essentially the same as it was when the Tuileries Palace was destroyed. All the structures shown in the plan, except for the Pei Pyramid, were in place as of 1871. That map works as a map for all the years since, so not labeling it as modern shouldn't be confusing. The absence of the Tuileries should tell someone that it's a post-1883 map. But it couldn't hurt to say that it's a 2004 map in the caption. As far as its placement, I think that sometimes images explain the adjoining text and sometimes they can be read separately from the text but together as images. Although I wasn't the one who placed them, I think that as currently placed the two maps better show the historical orientation of the palace site to the Louvre and the rest of the city than if separated. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2022

It’s missing a architectural style. AJ DA SUN GOD (talk) 00:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Please make it public AJ DA SUN GOD (talk) 00:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

 Comment: There is a list of supposedly applicable architectural styles in the infobox and one listed among the categories. However, there isn't any sourced material to support that in the article, that I could see. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:17, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

King of Rome

This link is not to anything about [[Napoleon Ii] II] but rather to the classical office prior to the establishment of the Roman Republic Someone who can badly needs to edit this. 2600:1004:B1C5:25D7:0:22:9B12:3701 (talk) 19:26, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Good catch. Fixed it with a pipe to Napoleon II. --Robert.Allen (talk) 21:10, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Photo

Hello. I ask in Talk page because the article is locked. Could you change this picture File:Jardins du Trocadéro vestige.jpg ? There was a confusion on French Wikipedia and on Commons. More explanations on fr:Jardins du Trocadéro. In the Trocadero gardens, there are two ruins, one from the Tuileries Palace (File:Vestiges Tuileries jardins du Trocadéro 12-1.jpg or File:Vestiges Tuileries jardins du Trocadéro 11.jpg) and one from the old Hôtel de ville de Paris, which was destroyed in 1871, during the Commune too. The English Wikipedia article shows the ruin Hôtel de ville de Paris and not from the Tuileries. Sorry for my level in English. Regards, Polymagou (talk) 17:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done – I've changed the image at the article. Dhtwiki (talk) 07:19, 5 January 2023 (UTC)