Talk:Senior chief petty officer

Time in rating

• Does anyone know exactly how many months/years are required at Chief before they're eligible to go for Senior Chief? I have no idea. - Wguynes 04:17, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Here are the Time In Rate (TIR) Requirements for U.S. Navy Enlisted Advancements (given in months):

SR to SA = 9 (w/No exam); SA to SN = 9 (w/No exam); SN to PO3 = 6; PO3 to PO2 = 12; PO2 to PO1 = 36*; PO1 to CPO = 36*; CPO to SCPO = 36 (w/No exam); SCPO to MCPO = 36 (w/No exam). *May be waived up to 1 year for Early Promotes (EP's) for advancement to PO1 or CPO only. Source = U.S. Navy Advancement Center

Based upon educational background, work background or incentives for advanced training, certain recruits may enter the Navy as SA or SN.

Also, some recruitment and retention bonuses offer "free" advancement, so the route can be VERY fast but largely not faster than 9 years total.24.160.240.212 (talk) 02:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Insignia

The collar device is wrong, the point of the star should be down. Someone fix it!

• I used the insignia from the insignia table page. They're rather small and lacking in detail for use here, but better than nothing. If anyone finds higher quality, larger, and consistent-looking insignia for all the navy enlisted, please feel free to replace these. I think leaving the table page as the small ones is best, however, due to server load. - Wguynes 04:17, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Addressed as?

• Someone with an IP of 61.68.72.133 had reversed and confused a few things that I had changed (I hadn't registered yet, so all the info I added was under my IP address). Contrary to what he changed, the chief's level still follows the rating in abbreviations (ie, MMCS, vice the incorrect SCMM), and it is still acceptable to call a Senior Chief "Senior." Izuko 13:33, Jul 25, 2005 (EST)

• I'm having to correct the same minor mistakes over and over again, each time someone decides to be "helpful." Specifically:
  • The order of the words in a title. When specifying a rating, the rating is given first, then the petty officer or chief's level. In other words, it's Machinist's Mate Senior Chief, not Senior Chief Machinist's Mate. Likewise, it is abbreviated MMCS, not CSMM.
  • In the ten years I was in the navy, a Senior Chief Petty Officer was called "Senior." I only got out last year, so I doubt much has changed.

I know people are just wanting to help, but I'm getting a bit tired of backing off the changes.

In my experience, SCPOs are addressed as both "Senior Chief" and occasionally "Senior." I made the edit to reflect that. Thoughts? -- Dave C.^{talk | Esperanza} 15:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

• That works. My main issue was the removal of "Senior" as a form of address. This retains both. Though, generally I've found that Senior is far more common, unless adding the person's name, ie, Senior Chief Waldron is more common than Senior Waldron. Izuko 20:59, 19 September 2005 (UTC) Izuko

I agree. I could call someone Senior Chief Zappa, Senior Chief, or Senior (fairly informal in my experience) but never Senior Zappa. Cheers. -- Dave C.^{talk | Esperanza} 00:57, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Is it intentional that we have two sentences referring to how a SCPO may (or usually would) be addressed? They don't conflict but at least one seems superfluous. 24.160.240.212 (talk) 02:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

User comment in article

The following text was removed from the article:

"On all over uniforms, the insignia used is the one that has become universally accepted as the symbol of the Chief Petty Officer.

Please change the word over with the word 'other' to complete the sentence as:

"On all other uniforms, the insignia used is the one that has become universally accepted as the symbol of the Chief Petty Officer."

Thanks,

208.20.220.72 16:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Richard T. Dudley, OSCS(SW) USN(RET)"

Khatru2 02:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

UNIFORM

WHAT IS THE STAR ON THE SENIOR CHIEFS UNIFORMS INVERTED

VR 66.121.163.138 04:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC) EO1

It's inverted so that it will accord w/ the MCPO and MCPON rating badges. Take a look at those. 24.160.240.212 (talk) 02:03, 17 April 2008 (UTC)