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Chu Ke Nu or Chu Ko Nu?
editIn the article it states that the name is sometimes "misspelled as chu-ko-nu", yet in the next paragraph, it is used that way...
As for the use in Age of Empires, maybe it is spelt that way in the game (I have no first hand knowledge of the game), which is why I haven't edited it.
vindaloo9d's
editPlease research at: [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.54.193 (talk) 19:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that video was deleted and not archived. But maybe have a look at [2].
Date inconsistency
editThe article states: "Archaeological evidence of the earliest repeating crossbow was discovered in a Chinese tomb dated to the 4th century BC, during the Three Kingdoms period."
But the Three Kingdoms article gives dates of (184–280). Which is correct? Lulu71339 (talk) 21:07, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was looking at an article from a Chinese military website here: http://m.jb.mil.cn/yjcz_4658/gbtg/201707/t20170720_35544.html
- This article states that, the earliest crossbow which can fire multiple arrows at a time was discovered in a tomb that can be traced back to the Warring States period. Note that the Warring States period is about 5th century BC to 220 BC. However this crossbow can only load and fire two arrows at a time.
- In the Chinese historical book Records of the Three Kingdoms (published around 3rd century, covers the history of the Three Kingdoms, 184-280), a repeating crossbow that can load and fire "ten" arrows at a time was documented. This is by far the oldest text known that uses the word and describes "repeating crossbow" (连弩).
Technical data
editDoes anybody have any information on performance data?
I'm particularly interested in "muzzle velocity" of the different designs, and I could not find any reliable English sources to cite such numbers.
I'd be rather surprised if nobody did tests with recreated models.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.43.157 (talk) 21:10, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Unscientific, but even a very crude one will shatter the chopsticks it was firing at a straw archery target. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Jörg Sprave's ancient-Chinese-inspired rubber band version fired Ikea pencils at 135 km/h; his heavily modified double-bowed Adder fires twenty gram bolts at 310 km/h. So it differs wildly depending on the construction of the bow and the projectiles used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 (talk) 03:35, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Poison?
editIf they're heavily armored and, presumably, the bolt cannot penetrate that armor, at what point is the arrow/bolt injecting the poison into their bodies? 72.200.151.13 (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Even if they're heavily armored, they still could be penetrated, but the shot's are not fatal (By meaning, only a slight cut will be caused) Jason Sudana (talk) 13:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
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Pinyin vs Wade-Giles
editHello. I'm not familiar with the Wade-Giles Mandarin romanisation (only pinyin) but why are the Wade-Giles tones first-second-third (high-rising-falling) but pinyin tones first-third-third (high-falling-falling)? Is it supposed to be like this or just an error? Hkbusfan (talk) 08:47, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Computer game references
editI only knew about the chu-ko-nu because of it being in the computer games Age of Empires and Civilization V (yes, the old revision link below mentions only Civ IV, not sure why). I think that many people who search online for it, including me (also I do have a Chinese background but still never heard of this outside the games mentioned above), probably searched it from the games so can we add those references back? I do think it helps make the connection in people's minds. This is the most recent revision that mentioned the games: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Repeating_crossbow&oldid=355392077 Hkbusfan (talk) 08:54, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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Naval battle scroll image
editThe naval battle scroll image was painted by 太田天洋 in the early 20th century. Including it in this article is extremely problematic, because a layman might very well look at the image and assume it's period art, whereas in reality the painting and the events portrayed are separated by centuries. So to the reader it looks like documentary proof of not just the existence but also the functioning of the machine, whereas in reality the imagination of the artist may have had to bear a fair share of the burden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 (talk) 00:49, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Liang Jieming
editThis article lists Liang Jieming as a source, but I'm not impressed with the scholarship of his work. Even this wiki article is better referenced and he doesn't provide proper image attribution either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 (talk) 00:54, 24 November 2021 (UTC)