Talk:Racial segregation in the United States

Dr. King did not march in Cicero in 1966

Per my reverted edit, see Cicero March for the film documentary of the event, and for background about the march and the film. King, Bevel, and other negotiators at the summit with Mayor Daley which ended the Chicago Open Housing Movement, agreed to call off the march. Others, disagreeing with this decision, decided to carry it on in their absence. Neither King nor Bevel participated. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:14, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

LoomCreek (who reverted the edit), in good faith you possibly misread the source used to revert. The march referred to in the source was not the later non-SCLC Cicero march, which occurred after SCLC's Chicago movement had ended, but a demonstration during the movement in which bricks and bottles were thrown at the demonstrators (including King). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:03, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn Could you clarify what month they occurred? It seems they happened the same year. LoomCreek (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

It seems the confusion just happened because of how close the events were historically, sorry about that. (and given the mention of just 1966 in the article). LoomCreek (talk) 15:40, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Just to add a link and for talk page clarity, the Cicero march occurred in September, 1966, after the completion of the Chicago Open Housing Movement. The earlier Marquette Park demonstration in which Dr. King and others faced bricks and other thrown objects took place in August, 1966. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Ah okay, thank you for the clarification. It might be worth it to mention both as they exist within the context of each other. LoomCreek (talk) 15:51, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

The general march in Chicago neighborhoods by MLK & others. And then the later Cicero March itself. LoomCreek (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

The context was different. The Marquette park protests occurred during the Chicago Open Housing Movement. The Cicero march was organized by activists who disagreed with the Open Housing movement's conclusion and announced settlement. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:07, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Exactly, they exist within the context of each other. LoomCreek (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

SCLC's marches during the movement have nothing to do with the Cicero event (so "the context of each other" doesn't seem to fit). Randy Kryn (talk) 00:35, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

I think the decision to lead a march because the previous ended (because the neighborhoods were still segregated, and the problem unresolved. and thus they disagree with its end) is fairly relevant context. Maybe we're just talking past each other at this point.

I'm not really particularly wed to it. The month should be included to prevent confusion atleast. Which is why I originally suggested the inclusion, just a sentence to basically clarify between the two. (another option is to use {{efn}} -the note function- to provide the clarification.) LoomCreek (talk) 04:34, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

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Ahewling @ahewling: I prompted ChatGPT about which of these is accurate: A) Segregation is not limited to areas in the Deep South. In New York City, 19 out of 32 school districts *have* fewer white students or B) Segregation is not limited to areas in the Deep South. In New York City, 19 out of 32 school districts *had* fewer white students

It responded: The correct option would be:

"Segregation is not limited to areas in the [[Deep South]]. In New York City, 19 out of 32 school districts have fewer white students."

This is because the verb "have" indicates a present, ongoing situation, which is appropriate if you're describing current data or a continuing trend. The use of "had" would suggest that this was the case in the past but is not necessarily true now.

Would it be possible for you to reverse or correct your edit? It should be "have" not "had." sheridanford (talk) 22:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)