Talk:Imelda Marcos/Archive 4

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Shouldn't the photo be the one she had during her tenure? Newer photos doesn't mean that it should be the picture that should be used. Former first ladies and political leaders use the images from back then rather than the most recent ones, so why is this article using the one we have now? For example, Rosalynn Carter and Jimmy Carter. In my opinion, we should use this photo instead. PyroFloe (talk) 04:50, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• @PyroFloe: Agreed. The current image is too blurry and her eyes are even closed. I'll lay out some options and have a vote. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
• Wot, no shoes or sandals?? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Options

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  Option A (former lead image)
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  Option B
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  Option C
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  Option D (current lead image)
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  Option E
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  Option F
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  Option G
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  Option H

• Option C: seems the best quality photo, has colour interest and is looking inwards (not that I'm being lead by the top example here, of course.) Martinevans123 (talk) 11:24, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
• Option D: Marcos is looking forward (perhaps one of the best quality photos of which Marcos is facing forward) --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:15, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
• Option A: The difference is that the Carters truly were most notable for their term in office, whereas Mrs. Marcos is best known for the revelations and the political comeback that came after her term. Option D seems best if the change is actually necessary. But I don't believe that to be the case. - Chieharumachi (talk) 02:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
• Option A: Seems to best represent the period of her (and her family's) political comeback. Crisantom (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
• Option A: It's more representative of the opulence for which she is most well-known for. -Object404 (talk) 14:17, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
• Option A: It is best representative of how younger generations know her and her family's political comeback. Unilimited247 (talk) 18:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
• Option C: While the current lead image A is the most recent one, it is my subjective opinion that she has an awkward facial expression and the lighting probably taken at nighttime with a flash on makes her skin look almost purple, though that is only my subjective opinion. Lochglasgowstrathyre (talk) 06:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Coincidence?

The timing of this article was delisted almost 3 years ago this coming November 9. I learned that Imelda was convicted of graft by the Sandiganbayan at the timing of the good article delisting. There is something suspicious here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.211.38.89 (talk) 01:15, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Stole money?

No they are not. Wiki pedia please dont agree to one side only. So that when we are studying they(us) in which student not now believing you. So feel us. Thanks! 158.62.97.178 (talk) 13:54, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

There are dozens of reliable sources on the contrary and all of them point to the indisputable fact that Imelda Marcos together with her husband, Ferdinand Marcos, stole billions of Filipino taxpayer pesos. We have an entire section on her article dedicated to proving and explaining the fact, and an article discussing more. Please don't assume that Wikipedia is taking sides without showing evidence to dispute current claims. Chlod (say hi!) 14:01, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Need for editing

The length of this article, and the focus on legal disputes between the state and its subject, is inconsistent with and far more detailed than other Wikipedia articles on political personalities of far more importance, as measured by the influence they had or the number of people whose lives they affected. It needs to be significantly edited down. 78.145.231.208 (talk) 22:31, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Not all other "political personalities of far more importance" were criminals? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2022

Imelda Marcos and her family did not stole billions of money, there are no evidence and Harry Roque said that they are proven innocent by having no cases of abuses and stealing of money. 130.105.211.118 (talk) 09:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: see above response Cannolis (talk) 09:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Really? There is no mention of Imelda Marcos at the Harry Roque article. And that's not quite what he says here, is it? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Billions of what?

The current version of the article states that she and her husband stole billions.

Billions is a number, and without a unit it means nothing. Does it refer to the Philippine pesos of the 1980's? The equivalent value in today's Philippine pesos? Some other currency, such as euro? - Tournesol (talk) 08:13, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Having posted this I read the thread above and updated the article. - Tournesol (talk) 08:30, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Imelda Marcos

About Imelda Marcos 124.105.187.198 (talk) 23:47, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Revisit and research

Revisit and research deeper all the facts according to reliable historians and scholars not on the people with political motifs on that particular era. 70.31.101.167 (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Hindi ba to bias

Sino nag sulat? 49.230.48.178 (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, you'll need to write in English here. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

We should correct this.. this is so bias and some are not yet proven Showbizph (talk) 06:59, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Showbizph! Kindly list down what sections need to be changed and what exactly they need to be changed into. Please ensure that your desired changes are back up by sufficient sourcing as well from reliable sources in accordance with WP:RS .

If you have found an issue with the factuality of some of the information in this article, please feel free to show evidence that shows that they are not true from reliable sources as well Firekiino (talk) 07:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

stole billions? convicted criminal? please fix this

someone please edit this, google/Wikipedia is meant for true facts not wrong accusations. Gooskitzo (talk) 11:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

All fully sourced to WP:RS? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:49, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes sources came from medias that supports the obligarchs and leftists Showbizph (talk) 07:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Showbizph: Please provide a link to actual reliable sources that prove otherwise. Chlod (say hi!) 07:06, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Pls correct this.. for once stip being bias Showbizph (talk) 16:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Chlod i agree that your article for Mrs Marcos is well provided with sources. Sources from the leftist and from medias whom nothing good to say about the Marcoses. Let me ask you one thing, Are you aware that the family was acquitted and found inocent in so many cases filed to them. That your sources wrote that when they're still undergoing that trial and how about now that they got acquitted in their so called claims? Did they took time to revise their "accusations"? Guess you have to update your outdated and must say bias article. Showbizph (talk) 15:11, 2 September 2022 (UTC)