Talk:Chuuk Lagoon

Latest comment: 4 months ago by ScarletPlanet in topic Was Truk "Heavily Fortified"?

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The article had the following notice:

Adapted from the article Lagoon Truk Lagoon, from Wikinfo, licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License.

However, the code on the page linked to the Wikinfo article Truk, which is a redirect to Chuuk, which is a mirror copy of WP's Chuuk.

There is a Wikinfo article Truk Lagoon, but it is a mirror copy of this article. In other works, there are no sources cited for this article. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 01:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Dubious

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I've removed this:
"...almost fifty miles long by thirty miles wide surrounded by a protective reef, with an area of 3130 km² [1] (considerably less according to other sources [2])."
The first article linked doesn’t seem to say anything about Truk’s size or area, in square miles or km². The second gives the area as 823 sq ml, which is not “considerably smaller than 3130 km², it’s about the same.
I’ve re-written the sentence, using the "chuuk89" document as the main reference. Moonraker12 (talk) 15:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

PS: I've fixed up the reference section; I'm not sure what was wrong with it, but it wasn't showing. Moonraker12 (talk) 15:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Who is in charge?

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So what country owns or occupies Truck now?

Truk/Chuuk forms part of the Federated States of Micronesia. --Legis (talk - contribs) 12:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Image orientation inconsistency

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The map image is North up, but the satellite image is North down. I think the satellite image should be rotated 180 degrees for consistency. I don't know how to fix that. RickD88 (talk) 19:13, 15 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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The following content was relocated to Talk, due to Undue emphasis. It could serve as the groundwork for a page on its subject, but is in effect unduly specific biographical/commercial content as written and included in the Chuuk Lagoon article:

On 13 November 1973, Kimiuo Aisek, a native Chuukese from Tonoas (Dublon), opened the first dive operation in Micronesia, Blue Lagoon Dive Shop. As a 17-year-old he had witnessed the American "Operation Hailstone" attack Feb. 17–18, 1944. Prior to the attack he had worked with the Japanese as a stevedore and spoke fluent Japanese. Aisek's biography, "Witness To War: Truk Lagoon's Master Diver Kimiuo Aisek" was published by Dianne M. Strong on the 40th anniversary of the dive shop, 13 November 2013. Aisek had purchased the former Truk Continental Hotel in 1998 from Continental Airlines. Aisek had revered the wrecks as grave sites and was an early proponent of conservation and the Truk Lagoon National Monument, founded by the Truk District Legislature in 1972. Known as a wreck finder and dive guide, Aisek hosted many celebrities, including underwater photographers Al Giddings and Chuck Nicklin, oceanographer-conservationist Dr. Sylvia Earle, John Kennedy Jr., Special Olympics founder Timothy Shriver, NASA's 3-time Hubble astronaut Kathy Sullivan, "Titanic"'s James Cameron, 1980 Miss Universe Shawn Weatherly, TV and film star Bill Paxton, and Australia's "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin. Aisek died at age 73 on 4 January 2001. In 2009 Aisek was the first to be inducted posthumously into the International Scuba Diving Hall of Fame in Grand Cayman.[1] On 13 September 2014 Aisek's son, Gradvin, dedicated the 2400-square foot Kimiuo Aisek Memorial Museum. Located next to the Truk Blue Lagoon Resort and Dive Shop, it is the first museum in Chuuk State. It contains Micronesia's greatest collection of nautical artifacts, and includes a Chuukese ethnographic exhibit.

A condensed, less biographcy-centric passage focusing on the diving and/or establishment of the national monument may be restored, suitably reworked and concise. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 11:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "About Cayman Islands – Grand Cayman, Caribbean Vacation – Cayman Islands". scubahalloffame.com. Archived from the original on 2014-11-13.

Was Truk "Heavily Fortified"?

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According to Mark Lardas & Adam Tooby's Truk 1944-45: The Destruction of Japan's Central Pacific Bastion (Osprey, 2021), the claim that Truk was heavily fortified was fantasy based on a lack of actual information:

In the absence of real information, the Australian, US, and British intelligence services had only their imaginations to guide them: and their imaginations ran wild. Truk was seen as a heavily fortified Japanese outpost. They called it "Japan's Pearl Harbor" as if it were as large and developed as the US Pacific Fleet's base at Oahu. They also called it "The Gibraltar of the Pacific," conjuring images of vast defensive works. Allied intelligence officers knew the Japanese had had over 25 years to fortify Truk. They knew what they could have done in that amount of time, and expected no less from them, especially since the Japanese repeatedly disregarded international treaties during that time period. Perhaps Truk's defenses were on the scale of Fort Drum in Manila Bay? They had to be extensive, especially given Truk's strategic importance to Japan.

However, the reality was somewhat different. (...)

The lack of fortifications was less due to Japan's regard for international law than to Japan's economic limitations. It could not afford both a large navy and extensive naval fortifications. It opted to build up its naval forces, neglecting fixed defenses. (pp. 4-5)

I know Wikipedia encourages us to "edit boldly," but in this case I'm sure there are dozens—possibly hundreds—of editors who have more knowledge of the Pacific Theater than I have. So I'll leave it to them. ScarletPlanet (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nobody took up my offer, so I finally did it myself. ScarletPlanet (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply