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Kerry Raymond

Joined 17 June 2005
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Quietly and constantly revising pages of Australian and Queensland content, enhancing Wiki quality Q8682 (talk) 10:45, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

About me

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I come from a long-time Queensland family and my interests (as reflected in my contributions) are primarily about Queensland history (including biography) and geography.

Having said that, I have been involved in a project to machine-generate articles for sites on the New South Wales State Heritage Register taking advantage of the CC-BY licensing of the New South Wales Heritage Database. This project is in collaboration with Rangasyd and The Drover's Wife who are rolling out the articles with copy-editing (machine generation is rarely perfect) and other additions. This leverages similar machine-generation of articles that I did for the Queensland Heritage Register (also CC-BY licensed), see below for more on that project.

Another project is the machine-generation of articles based on content in the CC-BY licensed Australian Heritage Database, which contains entiries from the Australian National Heritage List, Australian Commonwealth Heritage List and the Register of the National Estate. Although the Register of the National Estate is now not a statuory register, many of its sites are now listed on state heritage registers (some of which are not CC-licensed). So reusing RNE content (which is CC-BY licensed) creates the opportunity to write articles about sites on the non-CC-BY licensed state heritage register, which will be one of my next projects.

I have completed my roll-out of stubs for the towns/suburbs/localities in Queensland which did not have an article. That involves some machine-generation too. I am now working to bring all articles about Queensland towns/suburbs/localities to a consistent minimum standard of information usually available about most places e.g. census, postcodes, schools, etc.

Finally, three big cheers for the State Library of Queensland, Queensland State Archives, Queensland Government and the increasing number of other state and federal governments across for increasing embracing CC-BY licensing on their web sites and archives. And three big cheers for Trove for making it so easy to find Australian library resources of all kinds, for digitising all those millions of historic newspaper articles, and for providing us with copy-and-paste Wikipedia citations to every single thing; Australian libraries are world leaders!

Outreach

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Visual Editor training, Australian National University, 2019

As a member of Wikimedia Australia, I do face-to-face outreach work here in South-East Queensland (or more widely using Zoom) to provide one or more of:

  • A general talk about Wikipedia aimed at readers, including statistics about Wikipedia, how trustworthy is, some behind-the-scenes policies and processes, and how to get more out of Wikipedia as a reader
  • Introduction to contributing to Wikipedia using the Visual Editor, including user pages, character and paragraph formatting, adding wikilinks and citations
  • Beyond Basics editing, including adding photos, using templates and creating new articles

I will also advise on organising events like edit-a-thons and, where possible, attend the event on the day to support it as required.

I provide all these services as a volunteer (free of charge) because I believe in free knowledge.

If you are interested in any of the above, please contact me at [email protected]

Status update on the New South Wales State Heritage Register project

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Needs updating!

Participants

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Statistics for en.Wikipedia (as at 23 March 2019)

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  • Number of sites listed on the New South Wales State Heritage Project when we started: 1,695
  • Number of existing articles about those topics on English Wikipedia when we started: 383
  • Number of articles in Category:New South Wales State Heritage Register (and sub-cats where appropriate): 1,642

All statistics are approximate.

Next phase: upload suitably licensed images from the New South Wales State Heritage Database to Wikimedia Commons: estimated 6,000 photos, hopefully including some for the approx 600 articles currently without photos. Includes creation of the Commons categories as needed, adding to the articles.

Subsequent phase: add {{photo requested}} tags to all the articles still without photos

Status update on the QHR project

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Needs updating!

Statistics for en.Wikipedia

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Statistics for Photos

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While most of the QHR text goes into creating/expanding QHR articles, some of it has also been used to create/expand articles on architects and history sections of related topics, that's why the numbers of such articles will eventually exceed the number of QHR articles. My initial focus was on creating new articles rather than expanding the existing ones to achieve maximum coverage of topics, but now the new articles are done, I am now more focussed on expanding existing articles.

Unless I have somehow overlooked any, every site listed on the Queensland Heritage Register as at mid 2014 should now have an article of some kind on Wikipedia (either created from the CC-BY text of the QHR or one that already existed on Wikipedia). What is going to happen next:

  1. The 200-ish pre-existing articles need to be inspected to see if there is scope to expand them using QHR text, add infoboxes, etc. If you've done any article merging, you will know merging is a lot of work as often the two articles have a different structure and style. (I have paused on working on this now, but will get back to it)
  2. Look for photos for many articles (I am working on this now, particularly architectural plans from the Queensland State Archives)
  3. Find what articles have been added to the QHR since I grew up my workplan and create articles for these. A quick look suggests there are about 40 new QHR listings (mostly schools). Obviously this is an ongoing maintenance task as the years go by (currently there are about 15-20 new QHR listings a year).
  4. Exploit the QHR information for other purposes. Many heritage listings contain biographies and local histories of people and places associated with the heritage site. There is a lot of opportunity to re-use such content to create/expand other articles on Wikipedia.
  5. Try to track down the sites that were on the QHR but have since been removed. Many of them are probably still notable.

Summary: still plenty that can be done, but the worst of it is behind me! Huzzah!

Assorted To-Do lists

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If you are reading this and would like to help, either jump right in and get started, or contact me if you need some help to get started.

  • Add the various silo art, water tower art, etc to the articles for the relevant town/locality. Source: [1]

Having a random image

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Random page in category/Female artists from Australia?server=commons.wikimedia.org&type=file

Disclosure of potential conflicts of interest

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Main page: First World War Wikipedian in Residence Project Page

From start of February to mid April 2016, I was a Wikipedian in Residence at the State Library of Queensland for 1 day per week. This was paid employment and the subject matter was Queensland in World War I as part of the State Library's commemoration of the centenary of World War I. My role was to:

  1. advise and assist staff and volunteers at the State Library of Queensland and their affiliated GLAM (galleries, libraries, archives and museums) and heritage organisations to contribute content to Wikipedia relating to Queensland in WW1 drawing on the material in their collections as sources
  2. personally contribute content to Wikipedia in relation to Queensland in WW1 drawing on those same collections as sources

The role was designed to align with the Wikimedia Foundation's strategic plan to "improve quality ... via partnerships with universities, cultural institutions and other groups who align with our mission".

The State Library of Queensland understood the concerns about paid editing and conflict of interest on Wikipedia. I was not expected to edit content relating to the State Library of Queensland or any topic that I believed would constitute a conflict of interest. The State Library of Queensland has a long history of being a supporter of Wikipedia, having contributed tens of thousands of out-of-copyright images to Wikimedia Commons and collaborated with Wikimedia Australia on providing Wikipedia edit training throughout Queensland. I was the first Wikipedian in Residence at the State Library of Queensland with others to follow later in 2016.

Note, outside of my role with the State Library of Queensland, I continued to edit as a volunteer, pursuing my usual interests at that time of the Queensland Heritage Register and the history, geography and biography of Queensland.

Roles

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I am a Fellow of The Women's College at the University of Queensland, where I was a Council member from 2002 to 2019.

I was a Council member or the Royal Geographical Society of Queensland.

I was a Management Commitee Member of the Queensland Family History Society.

I was a Management Committee Member of Wikimedia Australia.

I was a member of the steering committee of the Wikimedia and Libraries User Group (2018-2019).

Memberships

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I am a member of:

  • Wikimedia Australia (and a liaison to the State Library of Queensland)
  • Royal Geographical Society of Queensland
  • Brisbane History Group
  • Queensland Family History Society
  • Genealogical Society of Queensland
  • National Seniors Australia

Second account

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I have a second account User:WMAU KR for outreach work in order to have a "vanilla account" to use in creating screenshots and live demonstrations intended new users so they will see behaviour similar to their own account unaffected by my preference choices in my regular account. This is permitted by WP:VALIDALT.

My thoughts about quality in Wikipedia

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In terms of the Wikipedia debate on deletionism and inclusionism, I'm probably more inclined to inclusionism. I feel that if someone takes the trouble to contribute material to Wikipedia in good faith (including that they have no conflict of interest in relation to the topic), then they would not do that unless they thought others might find it useful. If we want Wikipedia to be "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" (as it says on the Wikipedia main page), we must understand that "anyone" encompasses a massive range of abilities when it comes to writing. And for new/occasional contributors, it isn't realistic to assume that they know the Manual of Style inside-and-out. Yes, overall we want to strive towards quality, but we cannot always expect to start with quality. I think deleting good faith contributions on the grounds of quality will only offend the contributor and makes them less likely to contribute in future.

Having said all that, if a lot of work has gone into creating an article (whether it be for reasons of quality or controversy), a new editor bumbling about with good-faith low-quality edits can unintentionally do a lot of damage or re-ignite a lot of old arguments. I think there is a legitimate argument for switching to a different mode of editing for such articles for new editors to that article. For example, the Edit button could lead to a screen that explained why the article could no longer be edited in the normal way and then invite the new editor to simply indicate the changes they wanted, but which would be implemented by an editor experienced with that particular article (a curator role). The curator could then negotiate/explain to the new editor if their proposed edits weren't appropriate (based on the long history of the article's development) or re-write the proposed changes to better reflect the agreements previously reached in the article's development. That is, apply a higher bar to contributions to high quality articles and a lower bar to lower quality articles.

Favourite text and citations

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People

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<ref name=qpm>{{Cite QldMLA|accessdate=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=qpe>{{Cite QldElectorate|accessdate=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=rem>{{cite web|title=NAME|url=http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/members/former/member-register|work=Re-Member Database|publisher=[[Queensland Parliament]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=adb>{{cite web|last=AUTHORSURNAME|first=AUTHORGIVEN|title=TITLE|url=http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/ARTICLE|work=Australian Dictionary of Biography|publisher=National Centre for Biography, Australian National University|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=bqw>{{cite book|title=A biographical record of Queensland women : a representation of every sphere showing, activities and interests, social, philanthropic, historic, scholastic, sport and travel|page=PAGE|publication-date=1939|publisher=Webb, Elliot|url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-31066129| access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

Places

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<ref name=globe>{{Queensland Globe|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=globenatural>{{cite web|title=Layers: Locality; Mountains and ranges; Contours; Watercourses|url=https://qldglobe.information.qld.gov.au/ | website=Queensland Globe|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=globetransport>{{cite web|title=Layers: Locality; Road and rail; Railways; Railway stations|url=https://qldglobe.information.qld.gov.au/ | website=Queensland Globe|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=globeuse>{{cite web|title=Layers: Locality; Protected areas and forests; Land use|url=https://qldglobe.information.qld.gov.au/ | website=Queensland Globe|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=globeschools>{{cite web|title=Layers: Locality; Schools and school catchments|url=https://qldglobe.information.qld.gov.au/ | website=Queensland Globe|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=globeother>{{cite web|title=Layers: Locality; ????|url=https://qldglobe.information.qld.gov.au/ | website=Queensland Globe|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

'''NAME''' is a [[suburbs and localities (Australia)|WHICH]] in the [[LGA]], [[Queensland]], Australia.<ref name=qpn>{{cite QPN|NUMBER|NAME|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=qp>{{cite web|title=TITLE|url=http://www.queenslandplaces.com.au/ARTICLE|work=Queensland Places|publisher=Centre for the Government of Queensland, University of Queensland|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

In the {{CensusAU|2016}}, NAME had a population of NUMBER people.<ref name="Census2016">{{Census 2016 AUS|id=ID|name=NAME|accessdate=14 November 2024|quick=on}}</ref>

  • Joan Frew's book on Queensland Post Office History

<ref name=JoanFrew>{{Cite book|last=Frew|first=Joan |title=Queensland post offices, 1842-1980 and receiving offices, 1869-1927 |publication-date=1981 |publisher=Joan Frew |isbn=978-0-9593973-0-7|url=http://hdl.handle.net/10462/comp/12599|chapter=|page=|pages=}}</ref>

<ref name=qs>{{Cite QldSchool|accessdate=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=recentschoolchanges>{{Cite web|title=Register of Recent School Openings, Closures and Name Changes|url=https://education.qld.gov.au/parents/school-information/Documents/change-register.xls|url-status=live|archive-url=|archive-date=|access-date=14 November 2024|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]}}</ref>

  • Queensland Family History Society: Schools Past and Present

<ref name=qfhs>{{Citation | author1=Queensland Family History Society | title=Queensland schools past and present | publication-date=2010 | publisher=[[Queensland Family History Society]] | edition=Version 1.01 | isbn=978-1-921171-26-0 }}</ref>

<ref name=qsx>{{cite web|title=Queensland State and Non-State Schools|url=http://education.qld.gov.au/schools/statistics/docs/state-and-non-state-school-listing.xlsx|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|date=24 February 2014|access-date=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=disted>{{Cite web|url=https://education.qld.gov.au/schools-educators/distant-education|title=Distance Education|date=25 July 2019|website=Education|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190806205333/https://education.qld.gov.au/schools-educators/distant-education|archive-date=7 August 2019|url-status=live|access-date=7 August 2019}}</ref>

<ref name = "Post Office">{{Cite web | last = Premier Postal History | title = Post Office List | publisher = Premier Postal Auctions | url = https://www.premierpostal.com/cgi-bin/wsProd.sh/Viewpocdwrapper.p?SortBy=QLD&country= | access-date = 14 November 2024}}</ref>

  • Railways

<ref name=kerr1990>{{cite book |last=Kerr |first=John | title=Triumph of narrow gauge : a history of Queensland Railways | date=1990 | publisher=Boolarong Publications | isbn=978-0-86439-102-5 |page= }}</ref> openings are on pp 224-225

<ref name=railwaystations>{{Cite web|date=2 October 2020|title=Railway stations and sidings - Queensland|url=https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/transport-features-queensland-series/resource/84fff9a0-e315-4844-9c4d-63934562a9bd|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201005070354/https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/transport-features-queensland-series/resource/84fff9a0-e315-4844-9c4d-63934562a9bd|archive-date=5 October 2020|access-date=5 October 2020|website=Queensland Open Data|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]}}</ref>

  • Rural properties

<ref name=ruralproperties>{{Cite web|date=27 March 2020|title=Rural properties - Queensland|url=https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/rural-properties-queensland/resource/ba521eca-6b02-4ea6-b647-5b5904f4879c|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201027053450/https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/rural-properties-queensland/resource/ba521eca-6b02-4ea6-b647-5b5904f4879c|archive-date=27 October 2020|access-date=27 October 2020|website=Queensland Open Data|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]}}</ref>

  • Boat ramps etc

<ref name=boating>{{Cite web|date=27 March 2020|title=Recreational Boating Facilities Queensland|url=https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/recreational-boating-facilities-queensland/resource/469781bb-0235-4630-9c38-522e5528b0c7|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201022213647/https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/recreational-boating-facilities-queensland/resource/469781bb-0235-4630-9c38-522e5528b0c7|archive-date=22 October 2020|access-date=22 October 2020|website=Queensland Open Data|publisher=[[Queensland Government]]}}</ref>

<ref name="ClosedAnglicanChurches">{{Cite web|url=https://www.anglicanarchives.org.au/churches/|title=Closed Churches|last=Anglican Church of Southern Queensland|access-date=14 November 2024|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190403003329/https://www.anglicanarchives.org.au/churches/|archive-date=3 April 2019|url-status=dead}}</ref>

<ref name=qhr>{{cite QHR|Number|Name|accessdate=14 November 2024}}</ref>

<ref name=bnehr>{{cite BrisbaneHR|Number|Name|accessdate=14 November 2024}}</ref>

  • Naming Brisbane

<ref name=nb>{{Citation | author1=Roberts, Beryl | title=Naming Brisbane : origins of Brisbane's suburb & locality names | publication-date=2013 | publisher=Beryl Roberts |location=Sunnybank, Queensland | isbn=978-0-9872315-2-9 }}</ref>

  • Gregory's 1975 Street Directory (for suburbs and localities index)

<ref name=gregorys1975suburbs>{{Cite book|last=|first=|title=Gregory's Street Directory of Brisbane and Suburbs and Metropolitan Road Guide|year=1975|edition=11|chapter=Suburbs and Localities index|pages=14-17}}</ref>

  • Gregory's 1975 Street Directory (for church addresses)

<ref name=gregorys1975churches>{{Cite book|last=|first=|title=Gregory's Street Directory of Brisbane and Suburbs and Metropolitan Road Guide|year=1975|edition=11|chapter=Index to Churches|pages=105-112}}</ref>

  • UBD Street Directory, Brisbane, 1990 (for churches addresses)

<ref name=udb1990churches>{{Cite book |author1=Universal Business Directories (Aust.) Pty. Ltd | title=UBD street directory. Brisbane | publication-date=1990 |chapter=Churches and Other Places of Worship| pages=15-19|publisher=Universal Business Directories (Australia) | url=https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/9955730}}</ref>

  • UBD Street Directory, Brisbane, 1990 (for school addresses)

<ref name="udb1990schools">{{Cite book |author1=Universal Business Directories (Aust.) Pty. Ltd |url=https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/9955730 |title=UBD street directory. Brisbane |publisher=Universal Business Directories (Australia) |publication-date=1990 |pages=26-29 |chapter=Schools, Colleges, Etc}}</ref>

<ref name=cewq>{{cite web|url=https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/resource-centre/resource/chronologies-engineering-works-queensland|title=Chronologies of Engineering Works in Queensland|publisher=[[Engineers Australia]]|access-date=14 November 2024}}

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{{cite web|title=TITLE|url=http://www.queenslandplaces.com.au/ARTICLE|work=Queensland Places|publisher=Centre for the Government of Queensland, University of Queensland}}

  • Brisbites and Our Brisbane

* {{cite web|title=NAME
|work=BRISbites
|url=http://www.brisbites.com/suburbView.asp?suburb=DDD&topic=1
|publisher=[[Brisbane City Council]]
|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/XXXX/http://www.brisbites.com/suburbView.asp?suburb=DDD&topic=1
|archivedate=14 November 2024
}}
* {{cite web|title=NAME
|work=Our Brisbane
|url=http://www.ourbrisbane.com/living/suburbs/NAMELOWER/home/
|publisher=[[Brisbane City Council]]
|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/XXXX/http://www.ourbrisbane.com/living/suburbs/NAMELOWER/home/
|archivedate=14 November 2024
}}

Local heritage registers

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Lots to do with them ... useful summary here (apart from the duplications) but the big problem is the extent to which they are online acessible and whether there is anything on them NOT already covered by the Queensland Heritage Register

LGA Heritage List (Wikipedia) Online list # entries Level of Info History/Description/Criteria Notes
Balonne Shire List 12 name, address, LotPlan none 2 Bollon Cemetries
Banana Shire List 10 name, address, LotPlan 1-2 sentences
Barcaldine Region List 9 name, address, LotPlan Paragraphs 8 are cemeteries
Barcoo Shire List 10 name, address, LotPlan Brief criteria count excludes QHR
Blackall Tambo Region List pp 118-119 9 name, address, LotPlan Criteria codes count excludes QHR
Brisbane City Brisbane Heritage Register List hundreds name, address, LotPlan Varies, but mostly good Search tool, but no access to full list -- difficult to know if you have found them all.
Boulia Shire Not found 1 Is it the Boulia Heritage Complex built around the Stone house (which I think is QHR?)
Bulloo Shire List (page 111-122) 30 name, address, LotPlan nothing
Bundaberg Region List (pp 5-6) 79 name, address, LotPlan Good Sorted by place name
Burdekin Shire List (draft, p88) 14 name, address, LotPlan nothing
Burke Shire List (p111-112) 12 name, address, LotPlan criteria codes
Carpentaria Shire 3 No list found?
Cassowary Coast Region Cassowary Coast Local Heritage Register List 86 name, address, LotPlan Good Some may be QHR sites?
Lockyer Valley Region List pp 9-39 (sorted by locality) 200-ish name, address, LotPlan short para on significance, no history Greater detail is available for some sites in the Gatton Shire Cultural Heritage Study (mostly sites in Gatton and Helidon)
South Burnett Region List some short phrases
Southern Downs Region Southern Downs Local Heritage Register List (sorted by locality) 381 name, address, LotPlan Brief criteria The Southern Downs Cultural Heritage Study 2010 contains a little more information on many of these sites (e.g. dates) but nothing comprehensive. The survey number (upper right in each entry) seems to be consistent with the entry numbers in the list, but the documents are sorted differently.
Sunshine Coast Region List (sorted by locality) 234 name, address, LotPlan Good Sunshine Coast Region: example citation[1]
Western Downs Region List (sorted by locality) 56 (my rough count) name, address and/or LotPlan Themes (presumably for which the criteria is met) There are some heritage trails with brief histories for some sites (unclear if these are all on the local heritage register) and clearly some locations (e.g. Dalby) are not covered by these trails
  • Cairns Region
  • Central Highlands Region
  • Charters Towers Region
  • Cherboug Aboriginal Shire
  • Cloncurry Shire
  • Cook Shire
  • Croydon Shire
  • Diamantina Shire
  • Douglas Shire
  • Etheridge Shire
  • Fraser Coast Region
  • Gladstone Region
  • Gold Coast City
  • Goondiwindi Region
  • Gympie Region
  • Hinchinbrook Shire
  • Hope Valley Aboriginal Shire
  • Ipswich City
  • Isaac Region
  • Livingstone Shire
  • Lockyer Valley Region
  • Logan City
  • Longreach Region
  • Mackay Region
  • Maranoa Region
  • Mareeba Shire
  • Mckinlay Shire
  • Moreton Bay Region
  • Mount Isa City
  • Murweh Shire
  • North Burnett Region
  • Noosa Shire
  • Palm Island Aboriginal Shire
  • Paroo Shire
  • Quilpie Shire
  • Redland City
  • Richmond Region
  • Scenic Rim Region
  • Somerset Region
  • Tablelands Region
  • Toowoomba Region
  • Torres Region
  • City of Townsville
  • Whitsunday Region
  • Woorabinda Aboriginal Shire
  • Winton Shire
  • Yarrabah Aboriginal Shire

Other useful stuff

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Your suggestion

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I have changed your suggestion (User talk:MountVic127) into something like dot points to make it easier to follow. MountVic127 (talk) 11:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Postage Stamp - Drover's Wife

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See: See https://australiapostcollectables.com.au/stamp-issues/henry-lawson-1867-1922.html. MountVic127 (talk) 11:18, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Palm Island GA Reassessment

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Palm Island, Queensland, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Whiteguru (talk) 08:35, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


References

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  1. ^ "Maleny Lodge Guest House" (PDF). Heritage Register. Sunshine Coast Regional Council. 24 August 2020. pp. 222–224. Archived (PDF) from the original on 24 October 2020. Retrieved 28 February 2021.
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