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Zu meiner Vorgehensweise: Best practice (deutsch). Und es sei erwähnt, dass ich gleichartige und eher langweilige Änderungen mit einem Bot erledige. So manche in den Augen des Betrachters sinnlose Änderung einfacher Natur wird automatisch irgendwann wieder rückgängig gemacht, sinnvoll erscheinende oder immer wieder durch Dritte aus meiner Sicht eher unwichtige Änderungen werden von mir im Bot aufgenommen, so dass alle meine Bilder davon profitieren. |
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Wiki Loves Monuments 2024 - Deutschland
[edit]Hallo XRay,
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bald ist es soweit: Vom 1. bis zum 30. September 2024 findet zum 14. Mal der internationale Wettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM) statt. Dabei können Bau-, Boden- und Kulturdenkmale fotografiert und die Fotos hochgeladen werden. Du hast an einem der vergangenen Fotowettbewerbe teilgenommen. Deshalb laden wir dich gern wieder ein, dieses Jahr mitzumachen. Wir freuen uns auf deine Fotos!
Vergangenes Jahr hat Rolf Kranz mit einer Winteransicht der Marksburg und der Schornsteine der Blei- und Silberhütte Braubach gewonnen. Welcher Fotograf oder welche Fotografin tritt dieses Jahr die Nachfolge an?
Nach WLM 2023 sind wieder zahlreiche neue Denkmallisten entstanden – zum Beispiel in Schenkenzell in Baden-Württemberg oder in Oyten in Niedersachsen.
Für die Suche nach Motiven gibt es bei Wikipedia zahlreiche Listen und Karten. Als Einstieg hilft diese Übersichtsseite. Weitere Informationen erhältst du auf der Mitmach-Seite.
Für das einfache Auffinden haben wir eine Upload-Karte erstellt, in der viele aber leider noch nicht alle Kulturdenkmale angezeigt werden können. Das Laden der Objekte dauert dort etwas.
Wir haben dieses Jahr drei Sonderpreise für Bilder zum Thema „Kinderwelten“ ausgelobt. Zugelassen sind für den Sonderpreis auch Fotos von Bauwerken, die nicht denkmalgeschützt sind. Dieser Sonderpreis wird gemeinsam mit dem Klexikon vergeben.
Damit es ab 1. September mit dem Upload schnell geht:
Außerdem laden wir Dich ein, ab Anfang September 2024 an der Vorjury teilzunehmen. Diese bewertet die hochgeladenen Bilder und ermittelt so gemeinsam mit der Jury, die Anfang November tagen wird, die Sieger von Wiki Loves Monuments 2024 in Deutschland. Das Vorjurytool ist hier bald freigeschaltet. Du benötigst dafür nur deinen Benutzernamen und das Passwort.
Für Fragen steht das Organisationsteam gerne auf der Support-Seite zur Verfügung. Falls du im nächsten Jahr keine Einladung für Wiki Loves Monuments Deutschland haben möchtest, trag dich bitte hier ein. Wir würden das natürlich schade finden, da wir uns auf deine Fotos freuen.
Viel Spaß und Erfolg beim größten Fotowettbewerb wünscht dir im Namen des Organisationsteams --Z thomas 17:11, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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Bremer Express-Upload
[edit]Hallo XRay, vielen Dank für deine Denkmal-Bilder aus Bremerhaven!
Wenn Du weitere Bilder von Kulturdenkmälern in Bremen oder Bremerhaven hochladen möchtest, empfehle ich dir und bitte dich den Bremer Express-Upload direkt in der Denkmalliste zu benutzen (Kurzanleitung). Das garantiert die korrekte Denkmalnummer, Bezeichnung und Koordinaten und erspart dir Tipparbeit sowie dem lokalen Team Nacharbeit. Grüße Quarz (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Dein Bild Bremerhaven, Strandhalle, Gedenkstein "Radschiff Washington" -- 2024 -- 2176.jpg kann leider nicht an dem Wettbewerb teilnehmen, weil kein Denkmalschutzobjekt abgebildet ist. Ich werde daher die entsprechenden Markierungen entfernen. Bitte nutze für Fotos von Objekten, die nicht in den Denkmallisten stehen, die klassischen Hochladeverfahren. Quarz (talk) 13:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Quarz: Danke für den Hinweis. Jetzt weiß ich auch, warum mein Bot bei der Nacharbeit über das Bild mit dem Gedenkstein gestolpert ist. Da fehlte plötzlich ein Template, welches ich aber gesetzt hatte. Auch danke für die Kurzanleitung. Ich werde allerdings bei meinem bisherigen Verfahren direkt aus Adobe Lightroom hochzuladen bleiben, denn die Uploadformulare sind viel zu aufwändig, wenn man mehrere Bilder hochlädt. Den Denkmalhinweis gibt es, sobald ich die Konfigurationsdaten meines Bots angepasst habe. Das wird aber bis zum Ende WLM noch passieren. Also keine Eile, abwarten ... (Ich wundere mich auch über die spontane Rückmeldung. Heißt es nicht immer Abwarten und Tee trinken?) --XRay 💬 14:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ich habe mal vorab meinen Bot um die Konfigurationsdaten zu den Denkmälern Bremerhavens erweitert. Es dauert jetzt noch ein wenig, aber dann sind sie gesetzt. Die von den anderen Bildern, die ich heute schon hochgeladen habe, kommen aber später. Diese Bilder sind aber auch nicht aus Bremerhaven. --XRay 💬 14:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wenn unser Bremer Express Upload nicht genutzt wird, hat sich die schnelle Ansprache bewährt. Oft werden weitere Bilder dann damit hochgeladen.
- Schön, dass du die Denkmalnummern nachtragen wirst. Nutze dazu bitte Template:Kulturdenkmal_Bremen gemäß Kochbuch. Gruß Quarz (talk) 14:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Das kann ich mir vorstellen, aber ich arbeite schon seit Jahren nicht mehr mit den Uploadformularen. Das war einfach nur nervig. Ich lade die Bilder mit Basisinformationen hoch, den Rest macht mein Bot. Ich trage die Templates so ein, wie ich es bisher auch gemacht habe. Die Vorlage ist meist das Template aus der Kategorie, allerdings mit der Wikidata-Id. Daraus könnte man auch den mehrsprachigen Titel ableiten ... ;-) --XRay 💬 14:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Der Vorteil des Express-Uploads ist eben, dass man sich um nichts kümmern muss. Mit dem Klick in der richtige Zeile der Denkmalliste werden alle erforderlichen Daten In das Formular eingetragen, man schiebt die Datei dazu und schickt ab.
- Dass ich dich nicht locken kann, ist klar; dazu bringst du einfach zu viel Eigenes da rein und verwendest reichlich technische Hilfe. Quarz (talk) 15:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- ;-) Meine Verfahrensweise hat (für mich) den Vorteil, dass von Änderungen meistens auch ältere Bilder profitieren. Der Bot unterstützt das Konsequente, aber auch die Bequemlichkeit. Klar, dass das nicht eine Lösung für jeden ist. --XRay 💬 15:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Das kann ich mir vorstellen, aber ich arbeite schon seit Jahren nicht mehr mit den Uploadformularen. Das war einfach nur nervig. Ich lade die Bilder mit Basisinformationen hoch, den Rest macht mein Bot. Ich trage die Templates so ein, wie ich es bisher auch gemacht habe. Die Vorlage ist meist das Template aus der Kategorie, allerdings mit der Wikidata-Id. Daraus könnte man auch den mehrsprachigen Titel ableiten ... ;-) --XRay 💬 14:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Could you please clarify what you mean with "temporary" files? Prototyperspective (talk) 22:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Prototyperspective: First of all, I would like to ask you to ask questions on my talk page. I have moved your question to my talk page and asked for the category talk page to be deleted. Unfortunately, with the scattered requests, I don't always notice when people answer or ask. “Temporary” does not mean that the files themselves are temporary. It is a category where files are temporarily included for further processing. I have two of these categories. In one, my bot stops further processing or adds files there if there are irregularities; in the other, this is done manually, but the bot does not stop. Incidentally, there are currently files in the category with “(2)” at the end that still require manual reworking in the descriptions. And for your peace of mind: This should be done by the weekend. The stay of the files in this category is short. And please note that this is a user category. –XRay 💬 04:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay no problem, I asked there in case somebody else is also wondering about this at some point where they could then find the info on the talk page. Thanks for clarifying, I think it would be good to add this info to the category in the cat description to avoid confusion which is relevant because you're photos are high-quality so it's not unlikely some people go by that category or see int in the cats and wonder whether it means your photos are temporary (e.g. just temporarily CCBY or just temporarily on WMC). Prototyperspective (talk) 15:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Prototyperspective: The category has existed for around 10 years now and so far nobody has thought to misunderstand its purpose. The pictures are usually only in there for a short time, a few days at most. And granting a license only temporarily contradicts the license conditions and temporary participation in a competition makes little sense. Even temporary storage in Wikimedia Commons contradicts the license terms. --XRay 💬 15:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Because it wouldn't be consistent with the license terms I asked. Most people don't ask and are just confused and it's normal that there's low activity like that on WMC. When category titles are not self-explanatory, and especially when they're easily mistaken or creating confusion, a category description should be added if not a cat title be chosen that is not ambiguous like "Files by XRay in bot processing" or "Files by XRay in bot processing stage". Prototyperspective (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- At the time, I had oriented myself to another, already existing category. Perhaps a renaming would be really good. I'll see how time-consuming it is. I also have to adapt my bot. Until then, a better description will help.--XRay 💬 15:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Prototyperspective: I've seen your edit Revision of 653107736 ... and I reverted it. It's the wrong place and it's a user category. ;-) I'll add an information. --XRay 💬 16:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've renamed the categories. --XRay 💬 04:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! So this is solved. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Because it wouldn't be consistent with the license terms I asked. Most people don't ask and are just confused and it's normal that there's low activity like that on WMC. When category titles are not self-explanatory, and especially when they're easily mistaken or creating confusion, a category description should be added if not a cat title be chosen that is not ambiguous like "Files by XRay in bot processing" or "Files by XRay in bot processing stage". Prototyperspective (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Prototyperspective: The category has existed for around 10 years now and so far nobody has thought to misunderstand its purpose. The pictures are usually only in there for a short time, a few days at most. And granting a license only temporarily contradicts the license conditions and temporary participation in a competition makes little sense. Even temporary storage in Wikimedia Commons contradicts the license terms. --XRay 💬 15:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay no problem, I asked there in case somebody else is also wondering about this at some point where they could then find the info on the talk page. Thanks for clarifying, I think it would be good to add this info to the category in the cat description to avoid confusion which is relevant because you're photos are high-quality so it's not unlikely some people go by that category or see int in the cats and wonder whether it means your photos are temporary (e.g. just temporarily CCBY or just temporarily on WMC). Prototyperspective (talk) 15:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hallo XRay, bitte bei Deinen Änderungen auch den Haken bei Nur Kleinigkeiten wurden verändert setzen. Danke --störfix (talk) 15:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ich habe es für einige Fälle geändert. Ich mache das per API und da wirkt leider nicht jedes Attribut. Sorry. --XRay 💬 16:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hallo XRay,
ich bin da in den letzten zwei Tagen auf einige kürzlich von Dir vorgenomme Ergänzungen von DEFAULTSORT in Kategorien für Personen gestoßen, die in die Wartungskategorie Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts laufen bzw. liefen; dies, weil das Format des DEFAULTSORT-Begriffs nicht korrekt angelegt ist.
Korrektes Format: Nachname direkt gefolgt von einem Komma dann ein einzelnes Leerzeichen und Vorname(n)
Beispiel: {{DEFAULTSORT:Gunter Feist}} --> {{DEFAULTSORT:Feist, Gunter}}
Herzliche Grüße, Archie02 (talk) 09:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Das ist mir durchaus bekannt, danke für den Hinweis. Die Fehler in Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts meinte ich vorhin behoben zu haben, wegen der Namensvergabe schaue ich noch mal, ob ich da was übersehen habe. --XRay 💬 09:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dank Dir für die schnelle Reaktion und die Korrekturen. -- Archie02 (talk) 09:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Kein Problem. Ich mache das ehrlicherweise mit einem Skript, aber das hat jetzt eine mehrmonatige Erprobungsphase hinter sich und es sind die letzten Korrekturen, die ich anbringe. Es läuft unter meinem Account, damit ich ggf. Zurücksetzungen sehe und eingreifen kann. Die Kategorie und den Fehler hatte ich heute Früh bemerkt, sehe aber, dass da noch ein anderer Bot aktiv war (PiBot). --XRay 💬 09:30, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dank Dir für die schnelle Reaktion und die Korrekturen. -- Archie02 (talk) 09:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hallo XRay, mir ist aufgefallen, dass Du in letzter Zeit massenhaft solche Änderungen durchführst. Übersehe ich irgendwas, oder haben diese Edits absolut keinerlei Auswirkungen? Zumindest kann ich keine erkennen. Ich halte diese Edits daher für unsinnig, da sie ohne jede Wirkung nur die Versionsgeschichte aufblähen und die Beobachtungsliste zumüllen. Stepro (talk) 14:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ich versuche diese Edits zu unterdrücken, aber es klappt leider nicht immer. Ich schaue aber noch einmal nach. Danke für den Hinweis. --XRay 💬 14:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Entschuldige bitte, aber solche Edits sind einfach nur Unsinn. Ob da an dritter Stelle ein u oder ein ü steht, macht faktisch keinen Unterschied. Generell habe ich große Zweifel an Deinen Massenedits. Du solltest die ganze Aktion vielleicht nochmal überdenken. Stepro (talk) 12:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, aber ich sinniere noch über die pauschalen Aussagen "zumüllen" und "Unsinn" anhand einiger, sagen wir mal, unglücklicher Bearbeitungen. Das scheinen ja moderne Umgangsformen zu sein, denen ich mich aber nicht anschließen möchte. Nichtsdestotrotz werde ich die Genauigkeit weiter verbessern, aber mich wundert es derzeit schon, wo oft derartige Fälle auftreten. Damit hatte ich ehrlicherweise nicht gerechnet. Bisher waren die Rückmeldungen allerdings meistens positiv, da viele nicht die unglücklichen Edits im Vordergrund sehen, sondern die sinnvollen. --XRay 💬 14:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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