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Пожалуйста, если вторая версия файла действительно ваша - так и укажите в описании. Сейчас там ссылка на http://guide.kharkov.ua/ru/89.html, а фото с этого сайта должны быть удалены. NVO (talk) 19:40, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
- Вторая версия-действительно мое личное фото. Сделал его как раз по этой причине, чтобы уйти от несвободной лицензии. Спасибо, сейчас поправлю описание, и лицензию тоже стоит поменять. Glavkom NN (talk) 19:42, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
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- sorry, wrong license. right: {{PD-Russia-2008}} Glavkom NN (talk) 12:29, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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- This is my photos. Glavkom NN (talk) 18:34, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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В описании одного файла и названии другого указано, что это Екатеринодар. Это ошибка? Исправить на Новочеркасск? --Butko (talk) 09:53, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Да, исправьте пожалуйста. Спасибо. Glavkom NN (talk) 23:38, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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