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File:Insigne Helveticum.svg

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This image is intended to represent the coat of arms of Switzerland, but it is inaccurate, and therefore not useful. The correct coat of arms (e.g., File:Coat of Arms of Switzerland (Pantone).svg) features a cross whose bars are slightly longer than wide (see en:Flag of Switzerland), whereas this image features a cross whose arms are as long as they are wide. - The creator of this image has without discussion replaced other correct versions of the coat of arms in Wikipedia articles with this image; all of this will have to be reverted. Sandstein (talk) 13:41, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In accordance with heraldic convention, you should pay notice to this:
This representation of a coat of arms is potentially different from the one used by the armiger (municipality or organisation) in question.
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“Sable, a lion
rampant or”
This coat of arms was drawn based on its blazon which – being a written description – is free from copyright. Any illustration conforming with the blazon of the arms is considered to be heraldically correct. Thus several different artistic interpretations of the same coat of arms can exist. Sometimes, the design officially used by the armiger is likely protected by copyright, in which case it cannot be used here.
Individual representations of a coat of arms, drawn from a blazon, may have a copyright belonging to the artist, but are not necessarily derivative works.
Further information: Commons:Coats of arms and Template:Coa blazon

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-Ssolbergj (talk) 13:45, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please engage in this discussion before you make any changes. - Ssolbergj (talk) 13:57, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
But the blazon of the Swiss coat of arms as defined in law clearly says: "The coat of arms of the federation is, within a red field, an upright white cross, whose [four] arms of equal length are one and a sixth times as long as they are wide." This image does not conform to that blazon, and is therefore in error. Sandstein (talk) 14:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Probably nitpicking, but that isn't a blazon; the blazon would be "Gules, a cross couped Argent", i.e., red with a white cross that doesn't touch the edges of the shield. Not saying that's a reason not to follow the geometric specifications, though heraldically, the exact dimensions of the cross don't matter, as any image that follows that blazon is correct. SiBr4 (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep Ssolbergj is creating a catalog of national coats of arms in Latin. They should be kept. Fry1989 eh? 14:37, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That does not address the reason for deletion. Sandstein (talk) 15:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ssolbergj can easily update the image to fix the proportions of the cross. Fry1989 eh? 15:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep It's now done. -Ssolbergj (talk) 06:26, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: No clear consensus, here, to delete. The case has been taken to the wider community at COM:VPP, and discussion should occur there. --Reventtalk 07:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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