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release was detailed as 'my neighbor agreed to take that photo just for Wikipedia' - sorry, but I don't believe you! No evidence of copyright status, or model release. Privatemusings (talk) 04:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per above. -- Deadstar (msg) 08:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep We don't need a model release for a completely unidentifiable subject, and you haven't given any specific concrete reason to doubt the claimed copyright status... AnonMoos (talk) 13:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. On the image talk page, someone pointed to [1] as the source, to which AnonMoos objected that the resolution was too small. TinEye also finds the image at http://thunder-2000.pochta.ru/EroGIR/image-6-30.html at the size 1024×768px... (URL not accessible to me, though, gives a 404 and a redirect, and is blocked by our spam filter.) Lupo 15:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Picture obsolete/current copyrights that were previously unknown Adoroacristo (talk) 06:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Unused; uploader's request; personal photo. Lupo 15:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Source site [2] has a clear © notice. Lupo 09:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC) Lupo 09:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted per Lupo. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Undeleted Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg after the below request on my talkpage. -- Deadstar (msg) 22:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You have speedily deleted Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg as "copyvio". Lupo nominated it for deletion on the grounds that source site [3] has copyright notice. Actually the source page says "Copyright © 1996—2008 Артемий Лебедев" and has number of color photos by ru:Артемий Лебедев (Artemy Lebedev, born 1975), and one b/w photo which is Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg dated to 1950 which until recently was sufficient for marking it with {{PD-Russia}} template. Since January 1, 2008 {{PD-Russia}} is deprecated, but there is consensus that PD-Russia images should NOT be automatically deleted, but discussed individually. In time of upload the image was perfectly PD, and possible deletion is not an imperative but a question to discuss. Please undelete Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg, and if you consider it necessary renominate it at Commons:Deletion requests. -M5 (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fine by me.  Delete as it fails {{PD-Russia-2008}}. Even under {{PD-Russia}}, this image was never OK in the U.S. as it was taken after 1942/46, and thus was copyrighted in Russia in 1996, and thus became copyrighted in the U.S., too (until 95 years after its initial publication). The crucial date for the Commons according to PD-Russia was never 1954, it always was 1942/46. Lupo 08:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Not in the PD in Russia (source country) nor in the US. Bidgee (talk) 08:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Empty cat. More proper category Category:Protista exists. -NEON_ja (talk) 10:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


kept and redirected to proper cat (people might use it). -- Deadstar (msg) 12:13, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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complete new rendered version Image:BSicon eS BHF.svg, only half in size! Axpde (talk) 20:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, changed deletion request to {{Duplicate}}. --Martin H. (talk) 10:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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this icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed all occurances worldwide! Axpde (talk) 17:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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this icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed all occurances worldwide! Axpde (talk) 17:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Still 3 usages left in en.wp usernamespace. --Martin H. (talk) 18:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, two lists of Alison Wheeler (who doesn't want anyone else to change those lists and whom I informed on the user-talk-page) and one list of LeheckaG which is so big that I wasn't able edit this one at all! Axpde (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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this icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed all occurances worldwide! Axpde (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 19:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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this icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed all occurances worldwide! Axpde (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No possible reasonable use in any Wikimedia project. This is a image created from non-notable resume/personal history text. 208.81.184.4 21:48, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No possible reasonable use in any Wikimedia project. This is a image created from non-notable resume/personal history text. 208.81.184.4 21:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Images from the copyrighted motion picture by Taberna --Javier ME (talk) 22:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a corporate logo, with no indication contributer has permision from copyright holder to post here 208.81.184.4 22:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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complete new rendered version Image:BSicon exS BHF.svg, only half in size! Axpde (talk) 20:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: This icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed all occurances (one japanese pages is listed but already changed plus three userspace listings) Axpde (Diskussion) 23:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC) --Axpde (talk) 23:13, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 23:03, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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this icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed every occurance of this icon! Axpde (talk) 20:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Martin H.: (incorrectly named) duplicate of Image:BSicon WASSER.svg

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this icon isn't used anywhere, it should be deleted immediately. Axpde (talk) 22:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Martin H.: duplicate or a scaled down version of Image:BSicon vSTRrf.svg

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this icon isn't used anymore, I checked and changed all occurances (two japanese pages are listed but already changed) Axpde (talk) 23:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Martin H.: (incorrectly named) duplicate of Image:BSicon exDSTq.svg

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Their is no need for this image to be on wikipedia it is a waste of space 74.186.123.200 02:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment If you are the uploader (User:HowardMorland), but not logged in, please log in and post another comment here. Otherwise, keep image. -- Deadstar (msg) 08:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong with it? It's the only image on my user page. I thought people were allowed to put whatever they wanted on their user pages. It is not offensive or illegal, and it's a small image. Please state your objection. HowardMorland (talk) 19:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how this thing works, but nominating my user-page portrait for deletion is the only thing user:74.186.123.200 has ever done on Wikimedia. It looks like vandalism to me. HowardMorland (talk) 19:14, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept per user HowardMorland. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Source on en wikipedia is public domain, here the transfer-uploader made it GFDL. On en wikipedia, the original-uploader stated "own work", but it's obviously just a video game's bad screenshot. The en:wikipeida uploader looks like he got trouble understanding what free content and copyright means, as other of his uploads were deleted as copyvios--Lilyu (talk) 04:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC) --Lilyu (talk) 04:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 18:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Georgi Zelma died 1984. Lupo 08:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 18:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Original source [4], uploaded originally as "fair use" at en-WP with the comment "copyright unknown". Lupo 08:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 18:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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David Trachtenberg/Давид Трахтенберг lived 1906–1980.[5] Lupo 08:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Source: [6]; © notice. Photo after 1948-11-21. Lupo 09:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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replaced by Category:Hermann Buhl (athlete) and Category:Hermann Buhl (mountaineer) --Reinhard Kraasch (talk) 09:33, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep disambiguate. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I made the edit; Category:Hermann Buhl is now an empty disambiguation category. --Tryphon (talk) 02:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Restored. per [7]. --~/w /Talk 12:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I doubt this image is from uploader. Sdrtirs (talk) 09:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:DW , no freedom of panorama. sугсго 10:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:DW, no freedom of panorama. sугсго 10:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Empty cat. This term would not be suitable for category name, because "Heliozoa" is an artificial and polyphyletic group including various lines of protists. -NEON_ja (talk) 10:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no freedom of panorama for sculptures in Japan. Although the sculpture is not the only depicted item, it is the focus of this photo. Note that there is a duplicate file, Image:P1000616.JPG. Patrícia msg 11:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was a bit sloppy, sorry. Further rationale: I don't know when this sculpture was made or who did it, but Miki is a recent town, founded in 1954; presumably, the sculpture is at least as old as the town. Patrícia msg 11:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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When did Max Mehrling die? Lupo 12:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to this: Max Nehrling (1887-1957) Carl Lindberg (talk) 02:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right, it's "Nehrling", not "Mehrling". Dates confirmed by [8] and [9]: Max Nehrling (b. 1887-05-11 in Posen, d. 1957 in Weimar).  Delete Lupo 08:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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German postcard from 1936; unlikely the photographer died before 1938. An afficionado might be able to identify the publisher and maybe the photographer by the numbering "M.334". Could we have the backside of this postcard, please? Lupo 12:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Logo with copyright sign, no OTRS JeroenZ85 (talk) 12:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. ~/w /Talk 19:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A Heinrich Hoffmann photo, not released by the German federal Archive. See IDs hoff-8857 and hoff-8858 at the Bavarian State Library. Image is copyrighted in Germany. Lupo 12:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep. I have seen a similar photo on here, uploaded with a US-Gov license, saying it is confiscated NS-material and as such property of the US-Gov. The story with that particular image was that the negative of the image was still with (i believe) the Bavarian state library) and so the Bundesarchiv now provided a copy of that same image. what i want to say: if the US gained property rights on this image here (via a confiscation, accepted by the international court) they should be able to do whatever they want with that image - also in Germany. Is the story of this image similar to the other image i described? >>>> Foundert

No. This has been discussed countless times. The status of seized Nazi images in the U.S. and in the UK does not affect the status of these same images elsewhere. Copyrighted in Germany (source country), and thus unsuitable for hosting at the Commons. Note that any Hoffmann images that are released by the Bundesarchiv are not PD either: the Bundesarchiv (or the Bavarian State Library, or simply the German state) owns the copyrights, but has agreed to license these images in their 800px-resolution under a free license. Lupo 09:57, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. per Lupo MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No author is given, so the claim that it is the work of a US soldier is at best unsupported. I believe is it likely to be an entire fantasy, and we have even less reasons to tolerate this sort of things now that we have photographs of the German federal archives. --Rama (talk) 14:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Can find no evidence on the site from which this image was taken that it is licenced under GFDL russavia (talk) 16:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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worse quality --Conny (talk) 16:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. Maybe, but it is in use on 16 wikis. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this a image for commons? I don't think we can use it. Abigor (talk) 17:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Unused personal image MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploaded for an English Wikipedia article, was an autobiography, non-notable. Nick Moreau (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Unused personal image and wrong licence MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Painter died in 2000 (less than 70 years ago) Teofilo (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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What is the source? Does the uploader own a satellite? 84.167.71.104 20:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio - previously deleted as Image:Madeleine McCann information.JPG TerriersFan (talk) 20:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete It's not a copy from the previosly deleted picture (that was completely different), but nevertheless it's a copyvio, too. 80px-Madeleine McCann MB.jpg shows a protected foto on a not permanently hanging flag (no Freedom of panorama). -- Ra'ike T C 23:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Spam. Copyright status unconfirmed. --Erwin(85) 21:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. No free licence or release visible on the website from which this comes. My be OK if release sent to OTRS. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicate of Image:First_chick.jpeg Fsphil (talk) 19:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Fsphil: I'm the creator of this image, which I uploaded without realising it had already been imported from Flickr by another contributor.

  • Oppose, it is a nice image. Many thanks to the photographer for taking the picture and providing the image on a "free licence". I think that the name is better than in the other image, so I would keep this one and delete the other. The name of the other one, Image:First chick.jpeg, is not very descriptive and I think it should be deleted IMHO. Incidentally, this is not the correct forum for deleting a duplicate file. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyrighted. Can only be used in official city publications Landskrona kommuns vapen (swedish). --Jsdo1980 (talk) 14:13, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Zirland: In category Copyright violations; no license

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Photo taken in Moscow (en:Lenin Mausoleum), but tagged as PD-Ukraine. Looks like PD-Ukraine was chosen because the image would not be OK following PD-Russia-2008. sугсго 14:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Maxim: Missing essential information: license/permission/source

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Newspaper from Moscow, but tagged as PD-Ukraine. Looks like PD-Ukraine was chosen because the image would not be OK following PD-Russia-2008. sугсго 14:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. ChristianBier (talk) 07:46, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Again: reproduction of a british newspaper. How come the German Federal Archive can license this as cc-by-sa-3.0-de?? Lupo 10:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, one would suppose that this artwork by en:The Sphere (newspaper) was still copyrighted. I do not understand how Bundesarchiv can release this. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 22:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Would :{{Non-free newspaper image}} do instead for the licensing? Then we could keep the image - which is great for illustrating the article. I don't really understand how all this works, espcially on Commons, but I have licensed a picture for Table Tops this way (not sure how to link from Commons) and it doesn't seem to have been queried. Jasper33 (talk) 08:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, it wouldn't. As you can see, the template doesn't even exist here, and at en:Template:Non-free newspaper image it's a "fair use" template. "Fair use" images must not be hosted here at the Commons. Lupo 09:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete I agree with Lupo. Copyright was revived by the absurd 1995 EC directive. "Simple photos" that had been in the PD for decades had their copyright revived for 70 years after the death of the AUTHOR. Think, for a mere example, of the Soviet Union images, that NEVER enjoyed a copyright, and now are retroactively protected. The same situation applies here. Note that the reverse, i.e. a GERMAN newspaper bequeathed by an English archive, could not apply, since Nazy copyrights were seized as war booty.
In my opinion there are scores of images by the German archive that should go. The archive still seems to reason under the pre-1995 rule. And as an Archive it is exempt from a series of copyright claims that WikiCommons could face.
Furthermore, it is Commons that decided to adhere to a VERY strict interpretation of copyright laws. If we allow the German Archive to go against the rules, we would open the gates to any kind of "anonymous" images for the mere fact of being "old". Or looking old. Which is inacceptable. --User:G.dallorto (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Commons:Bundesarchiv, the Bundesarchiv (German Federal Archives) asserts that it owns sufficient rights to be able to grant a CC-BY-SA license for all images uploaded by the bot. Not just in this case, but in many cases this may seem surprising and unlikely to us. However, it is indeed possible that the Bundesarchiv in all those cases has really signed the necessary contracts to get the rights, and as it is a big institution with a lot of resources, I don't see why this shouldn't be the case. I therefore would opt for keeping all Bundesarchiv images including this one until proven that the Bundesarchiv's claim was made in error for a specific image. After all, this is not some random upload by an unknown entity - it's from a German federal institution and based on an agreement with Wikimedia. Gestumblindi (talk) 21:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this one should be deleted now. Maybe that will lead to some response by the Bundesarchiv people. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Cirt (talk) 14:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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copyvio, not free image, the uploader isn't not the phographer. -1j1z2 (talk) 15:58, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 01:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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wrong information: licensing {{PD-author}} and {{PD-self}} isn't posible. Who is the author: SqueakBox or Magnus Manske? Date uploading: 2007-08-06 MusicalM (talk) 12:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. :bdk: 15:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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With all due respect: this is a cut-out from a british newspaper. How come the german Federal Archive can license this as cc-by-sa-3.0-de?? They may hold the rights on the photo of this newspaper page, but certainly not on the newspaper. And sorry, I think the photo and caption go beyond "simple factual news reporting". Lupo 10:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nomination. --russavia (talk) 10:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we are not going to take the Bundesarchiv licenses 100% on faith then where do we draw the line? Do we believe that they secured licenses from sculptors for free photographs of their sculptures? But do we not believe that they secured licenses from whatever British entities would hold the rights to this material? Granted, the second seems even less likely than the first but neither seems likely to me. Haukurth (talk) 11:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Well, it is possible they actually asked the newspaper for permission. But it's also possible that it's an oversight.
In any case, please list any BArch images that get deleted on Commons:Bundesarchiv/Error reports. If the image is not OK for commons, this is somethign we should report back to them. So please record it. -- Duesentrieb 11:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. The image is part of the ADN-Archive at the German Federal Archives (ADN was an East German agency), listed with original source "Scherl" (a Nazi agency). The newspaper itself isn't even identified. Lupo 12:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe Template talk:PD-UK-photo-pre-1945? Would that be a template that could have been kept? /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. Within the EU, a 70-year copyright term applies. Historic copyright terms cannot be used since EU directive 93/98/EEC became effective on July 1, 1995. Lupo 10:26, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That is not true for photos, where the directive leaves legislation to the member states. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For "simple photos", as opposed to photos that are works. The big problem with that is that what is a "simple photo" in one country may well be a "photographic work" in another country (and vice versa). But the UK doesn't have the concept of "simple photos" anyway. See this overview. The only way out for this image here would be some confirmation that the image was covered by Crown Copyright. Lupo 10:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete I agree with Lupo. Copyright was revived by the absurd 1995 EC directive. "Simple photos" that had been in the PD for decades had their copyright revived for 70 years after the death of the AUTHOR. Think, for a mere example, of the Soviet Union images, that NEVER enjoyed a copyright, and now are retroactively protected. The same situation applies here. Note that the reverse, i.e. a GERMAN newspaper bequeathed by an English archive, could not apply, since Nazi copyrights were seized as war booty.
In my opinion there are scores of images by the German archive that should go. The archive still seems to reason under the pre-1995 rule. And as an Archive it is exempt from a series of copyright claims that WikiCommons could face.
Furthermore, it is Commons that decided to adhere to a VERY strict interpretation of copyright laws. If we allow the German Archive to go against the rules, we would open the gates to any kind of "anonymous" images for the mere fact of being "old". Or looking old. Which is inacceptable. --User:G.dallorto (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Commons:Bundesarchiv, the Bundesarchiv (German Federal Archives) asserts that it owns sufficient rights to be able to grant a CC-BY-SA license for all images uploaded by the bot. Not just in this case, but in many cases this may seem surprising and unlikely to us. However, it is indeed possible that the Bundesarchiv in all those cases has really signed the necessary contracts to get the rights, and as it is a big institution with a lot of resources, I don't see why this shouldn't be the case. I therefore would opt for keeping all Bundesarchiv images including this one until proven that the Bundesarchiv's claim was made in error for a specific image. After all, this is not some random upload by an unknown entity - it's from a German federal institution and based on an agreement with Wikimedia. Gestumblindi (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted per request of Bundesarchiv. Email from 2009-01-21. Raymond Disc. 22:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The image looks like a professional one. http://www.esmas.com/, the site given as the source, doesn't look like one that gives away images. The site is in Spanish - can someone have a look? -- Deadstar (msg) 14:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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no license MusicalM (talk) 12:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep The copyright is expired, and Commons also hosts a .svg version as Image:Coat of arms of Iceland.svg (note this .svg was taken from a .svg of the Icelandic Presidential Flag, which was also uploaded by the same .en.wiki user who created this coat of arms of Iceland, they are identical). The Coat of Arms was published as an anonymous work of the state in 1944 (See en:Flag of Iceland. The term was 50 years pma until the law was amended in 1996 to 70 years (see en:Wikipedia:Non-US_copyrights). Luckily the 50 year term for this image expired in January 1, 1995. I should also note the file description here has been vandalized to remove the en.wiki sourcing. 69.183.51.85 17:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep unless it is considered an unnecessary duplicate of Image:Coat of arms of Iceland.svg (since it was obviously generated from it). Presuming the authorship of the original flag SVG is correct, then the authorship on this image was correct before being recently changed. It was missing a license though, which should be added ( {{PD-user-en|Kjallakr}} ). Different versions of coats of arms are usually separate expressions (and thus separate works) of the same idea; each artist would own the copyright to their version (unless the law prevents that; some places do). Carl Lindberg (talk) 02:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I deleted my request. Because the license is available as .svg version, I'll add the same license on the nominated version. Because the two versions have two different extensions, they can imo both exist. I'll inform the uploader/author of the picture to place always license tags on images. MusicalM (talk) 11:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. Tryphon (talk) 13:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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uploader/author en:user:Pagansmurf doesn't exist. MusicalM (talk) 12:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Kept with {{PD-user-en}}. --Tryphon (talk) 13:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyrighted Logo Jean-Frédéric (talk) 13:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I never understand when a logo is ineligible when is it copyrightable. The question is: is there any creativity? or is it trivialous work?. What why we can see some logo on Commons. ~ bayo or talk 13:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment I do not really get all of it either, but it has to do with the Threshold of originality. My guess here is that this logo is copyrightable, but any thoughts from some more knowledgeble people would be necessary to settle this. Jean-Frédéric (talk) 17:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Copyrighted logo. Pbroks13 (talk) 19:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...hmm...  Keep as {{PD-ineligible}} or {{PD-textlogo}} I think. The symbol is (I think) pretty standard for an aperture ring; see this blog article for a fun look at it (and the similarity to Picasa's logo). To argue for deletion would also be to argue that the examples on this page are derivative works. I think it is too common a symbol to be copyrightable. The text certainly isn't. Carl Lindberg (talk) 02:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... I defintely agree for the text. As for the logo, I did not realize how common an aperture was... I would then go for  Keep, except if someone shows how it can be copyrighteable ? Jean-Frédéric (talk) 12:12, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept as {{PD-textlogo}}, per Carl Lindberg. --Tryphon (talk) 13:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicado Guimis (talk) 13:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the duplicate file? -- Deadstar (msg) 14:56, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Duplicate of File:Interior Parroquia de la Asunción Bujalance detalle.jpg. --Tryphon (talk) 14:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Image is watermarked "Martijnmulder.nl" and although I can't find the image on that website, there is no mention of any type of release on that website. Unless uploader sends email to OTRS saying he's Martijn Mulder, I am assuming it's not "Own work". -- Deadstar (msg) 14:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Missing permission from the author. --Tryphon (talk) 14:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be a copyvio from this page, where it is claimed as copyrighted by Marco Prins and Jona Lendering. The wayback machine has the exact same (bit-for-bit) image existing on that page since at least October 2004 (image [10]), and probably 2003, which presumably predates the original upload on pl-wiki (and also means the 2006 date is wrong). Carl Lindberg (talk) 14:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. See what Jona Lendering wrote on en:Image talk:Motya.jpg. Zara1709 (talk) 18:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, that is interesting. Definitely not a speedy deletion then. However, their conditions specify a non-commercial restriction, which Commons does not accept, so we would need an additional statement removing that condition (for everyone, not just Wikipedia) for this image. They can specify a share-alike restriction as in CC-BY-SA, but not a non-commercial one (their current license is more like CC-BY-NC). The rest of their conditions are pretty much OK, though some people may have issues with "for use on computers, computer networks or as a printed publication"... what about other possible uses? We usually prefer "any use" for this reason, or using the more common licenses like CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL, etc. where these seemingly-unimportant-but-not-always details have been worked on. The license tag currently on this image (PD-Old) is blatantly wrong though, and the author is not attributed at all. Carl Lindberg (talk) 02:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I drafted something like an alternate license. The image certainly is not in the public domain, and we would have to remove it from the commons, but WE CAN USE IT IN THE ARTICLE. It will have to be moved directly to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motya.jpg. I would do it myself, but I don't have much experience with moving images.Zara1709 (talk) 16:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See discussion in the Village Pump : Licenses for pictures from livius.org. Moumou82 (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
According to this note it has been copied to wikipedia.--Túrelio (talk) 13:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did that 20 days ago. Could we now pls delete the image in the commons?Zara1709 (talk) 15:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Per Stifle: Ticket:2007013110009589 doesn't refer to this image, and in any case doesn't give any sort of license which Commons will accept. --Tryphon (talk) 14:36, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Photo of Moscow Metro taken from Russian website. Tagged {{PD-Ukraine}}... see also the history of the image page. It appears the switch from PD-Russia to PD-Ukraine was just to bypass the restrictions of {{PD-Russia-2008}}... Lupo 15:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Missing essential source information, the PD status cannot be asserted. --Tryphon (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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and Image:Cupertinocenter.jpg, Image:Image158 La Vita E Una Fontana at De Anza College.jpg

No Commons:freedom of panorama for statues in USA. EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Tryphon (talk) 14:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Dublicate: Image:Santandreusureda1.jpg Ceterum censeo capitalismum esse delendam (talk) 17:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Tryphon (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Leave pornography in the magazines, and not accessible to children. 75.159.2.105 05:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]



Kept. Commons is not censored. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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dubious copyright status as fly by contribution, no information on model age or release Privatemusings (talk) 00:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep - per my closing as keep 6 days ago. Tagged with personality rights, and from the name I'd guess it was a photo taken on delay timer. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Recusing from closing the discussion, but this is a personality rights issue. Indoor photo, recognizable face. Model permission is needed and we don't have it. Durova (talk) 01:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete as nom - apologies for being unsure as to the norm.s of popping this here, and feel free to remove if appropriate. Privatemusings (talk) 01:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete: This image clearly is not needed. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep - Not needed? Is that a rationale to delete an image from Commons? This is a repository, where items are held so that they are available to use. Personalty rights are not a settled ground for deletion in cases where the subject is the putative submitter. Unsubstantiated assertions of underage content are similarly non-binding; Why assume wrongdoing, especially a stigmatizing form of wrongdoing, when there is no suggestion pornography or obscenity? Also, would it be all right to continue nominating this image for deletion in hoped of receiving a favorable result? It's the theory of decision making; Just keep shaking the community until it gives the desired answer. Respect the previous discussion, please; Assuming the worst (of motives, actions, and criminality) is not in the best traditions of the project. -- Ssbohio 04:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete unless the uploader provides more information about his age and if he actually took the photo. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 07:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete This is a case of the risks outweighing the benefits. We don't know how old this person is or whether he consented to this image being uploaded, and we have more pictures of guys playing with themselves than we'll ever need. Utterly unnecessary image of questionable legality - seems like an easy call to me. Faithlessthewonderboy (talk) 09:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete. Why, again, are we allowing brand new users to upload NSFW images without any information (apart from "Own image, PD")? Sure, it might be true, but if it's not (which is quite possible).. well, that'd be not good at all. --Conti| 13:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete after a second thought, there's no proof the man pictured is the user who uploaded the image, therefore no proof of consent no proof of age. What's more I have to admit the interest may be low for the project ("very artificial" as Herrick said above) --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 16:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete per User:Zscout370. With respect to comments by Ssbohio, assuming the best is generally only practicable when we're not talking about matters of law. We require proof of right to publish material that may involve copyright infringement. It seems quite reasonable to require proof of right to publish material that may involve child pornography. ("Masterbating" qualifies.) If this was an 80 year old man, this would be a very different conversation. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Consensus identifies severe COM:IDENT issues with this photo, which, combined with the unverified age of the young protagonist of this sexually explicit photograph, mandate deletion. Sandstein (talk) 20:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Images of Hnizdovsky

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User:Hnizdovsky uploaded the below files quoting himself as the source/author. Jacques Hnizdovsky died in 1985. I presume all these are copyrighted. His website ([13]) states that the copyright for that site (and his works) lies with S. Hnizdovsky, and is very clear: " No images are within the Public Domain. Images may not be reproduced, copied, used or altered in any way, by any method, without written permission from S. Hnizdovsky. In addition, use of any image as the basis for a derivative work of art is an infringement of copyright law." Some of the below are reproductions, others are photographs of the painter. None have a proper source.

Delete all as copyvios. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please!! I am Stephanie Hnizdovsky, widow of Jacques Hnizdovsky, full copyright holder of all JH artwork and all images, have selected to upload several images into the Creative Commons, both of my husband's artwork, and several of his photographs. I was just planning to upload more, when I realized you were planning on deleting everything I uploaded. Please feel free to contact me by phone or e-mail through my husband's website, but please do not remove what I have allowed to be in the Commons. I feel that this makes the pages richer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnizdovsky (talk • contribs) 05:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE DO NOT DELETE! I, the widow of the artist, and full copyright holder released these few images of notecards and photographs into the Commons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnizdovsky (talk • contribs) 05:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Moved from the top of the DR.[reply]

  • I confirm that the above images were uploaded by Stephanie Hnizdovsky, widow of Jacques Hnizdovsky, who is legal and full copyright holder of all JH artwork and all images. Because she is a novice to Wikimedia Commons, she needs in your guidance as to what exact actions she has to undertake to keep the images on Commons. Thank you. --Michael Romanov (talk) 08:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The website disclaimer has been updated and now states: "No images are within the Public Domain. Images may not be reproduced, copied, used or altered in any way, by any method, without written permission from S. Hnizdovsky. In addition, use of any image as the basis for a derivative work of art is an infringement of copyright law. Exception and copyright waiver (with restrictions) are only provided for images uploaded by S. Hnizdovsky on Wikimedia Commons under the user name Hnizdovsky". Hope this addition is helpful and the above images cannot now be considered as copyvios and deleted. Keep. --Michael Romanov (talk) 09:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for responding & uploading those images! You realise we have to be careful in those cases, as uploaders are not always who they claim to be. If you could, please also send an email per the instructions on Commons:Email templates so that in future this won't happen again. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thank you for your understanding and guidance. --Michael Romanov (talk) 14:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Working on this -- Deadstar (msg) 09:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept OTRS pending. -- Deadstar (msg) 22:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Images of Königsberg

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All four from the same (German) website, claimed to be post-WWII postcards, tagged {{PD-Ukraine}}. While these images may indeed by PD in the Ukraine, that is rather irrelevant, as the source country would much more likely be the RSFSR. looks like PD-Ukraine was chosen because the image would not be OK following PD-Russia-2008...  Delete Lupo 11:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also
Same license problem. Lupo 12:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I notice in general that the uploader has uploaded lots of "old postcard images", all with his own name as author. Most WWI era or earlier, but some from the late 1920s or even the 1930s. Some with photographer's or publisher's mark on the front (such as Image:Tannenberg3.jpg). Some other uploads just marked as "old photo" without any further info (e.g., Image:Koenigsberg Schlosskirche.jpg). Lupo 12:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. ~/w /Talk 19:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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4 images user Xpucmo

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TV shot, very very low quality.--sk (talk) 13:48, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Tryphon (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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combination of giving licenses isn't posible. MusicalM (talk) 12:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Comment I migrated this from the English Wikipedia and suggest contacting the original uploader there regarding this image. The duplicate image there (I guess I never flagged it as being migrated to Commons) is here. --BrokenSphere 16:58, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Hi BrokenSphere, you placed {{PD-author}} and {{PD-old}} as tag for this image. PD-author means: This file has been (or is hereby) released into the public domain by its author. PD-old means: This image (or other media file) is in the public domain because its copyright has expired. This applies to the United States, Canada, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years. That two combinations isn't posible. In fact you say: The author of this image has been died 70 years or more ago and the author has placed the image into public domain. I.M.O. logical that's not posible. If you place the right license, I'll undo my request. Sincerly MusicalM (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I suggest contacting Barefact at the English Wikipedia regarding this image. Like I said this was a migration, although the version here has 5 licenses vs. the 3 on the Wikipedia version, so I'm not sure what's going on with all the licenses being simultaneously claimed. --BrokenSphere 19:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Unlikely PD-author, seems to be an older image (sourced to a book published in 1924). No evidence for PD-old, no evidence for PD-Russia2008. ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 15:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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We do not even know whether the photo was really taken "about 1915"; the uploader did not indicate any source for that statement. But even if the photograph really had been taken in 1915, that would not matter: The point is that the photographer must have died more than 70 years ago - and for that we have not the slightest hint; we don't even know his name. A man taking a photo in 1915 can have died also in 1960! In case of an unknown photographer the picture must, according to our rules, have been taken more than 100 years ago.--91.12.107.4 00:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the description of this book, a collection of songs, at the Austrian National Library, Department of Music [14] is a "portr" (=portrait) mentioned, but no hint to a photographer. You can also look at the image in its higher resolution, at the bottom on the right there is something like the initials, but unreadable. SWB have an exemplar of this book SWB-Online-Katalog, but does not mention any portrait. In the Berlin State Library, the German National Library etc you will find some exemplars, but also with no description of this image or its photographer. --Andrea1903 (talk) 17:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. No known copyright holder. Yann (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Can find no evidence on the Abkhazian Presidential website releasing materials under a licence as stated on the image page russavia (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[15] Item 6. The photo was taken from a news story, and the news is located within the section "President". Sephia karta (talk) 06:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. As pointed out by Sephia karta, the section "Use of information" only asks for attribution. Pruneautalk 09:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Panoramafreiheit -89.57.17.228 15:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ja, die auslage wurde von einem öffentlichen durchgang auf eine öffentliche straße fotgrafiert. --44penguins (talk) 18:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


kept, declaration of the uploader is believable. --Ra'ike T C 08:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Source site [16] has a clear © notice. Lupo 09:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC) Lupo 09:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted per Lupo. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Undeleted Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg after the below request on my talkpage. -- Deadstar (msg) 22:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You have speedily deleted Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg as "copyvio". Lupo nominated it for deletion on the grounds that source site [17] has copyright notice. Actually the source page says "Copyright © 1996—2008 Артемий Лебедев" and has number of color photos by ru:Артемий Лебедев (Artemy Lebedev, born 1975), and one b/w photo which is Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg dated to 1950 which until recently was sufficient for marking it with {{PD-Russia}} template. Since January 1, 2008 {{PD-Russia}} is deprecated, but there is consensus that PD-Russia images should NOT be automatically deleted, but discussed individually. In time of upload the image was perfectly PD, and possible deletion is not an imperative but a question to discuss. Please undelete Image:Elektrozavodskaya1950s.jpg, and if you consider it necessary renominate it at Commons:Deletion requests. -M5 (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fine by me.  Delete as it fails {{PD-Russia-2008}}. Even under {{PD-Russia}}, this image was never OK in the U.S. as it was taken after 1942/46, and thus was copyrighted in Russia in 1996, and thus became copyrighted in the U.S., too (until 95 years after its initial publication). The crucial date for the Commons according to PD-Russia was never 1954, it always was 1942/46. Lupo 08:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Not in the PD in Russia (source country) nor in the US. Bidgee (talk) 08:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]