Commons:Categories for discussion/Archive/2024/10
Merge with Category:Palauan FOP cases/deleted where it is more appropriate. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merged and tagged with speedy as author Юрий Д.К 11:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
non latin name, duplicates of other existing categories GioviPen GP msg 13:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you know which categories are being duplicated, please redirect them there, using {{Category redirect}}
- Note Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:偽ロゴアイコン.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 14:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
broed vogels 2A02:A461:8492:0:310C:1958:81B6:D7F1 16:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Obviously nothing to discuss. --Achim55 (talk) 19:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
This is found on Commons:Report Special:UncategorizedCategories, lacking parent categories. The description seems nonsensical and I can't make much sense of the other contributions, including confusing moves of file talk pages. Not sure if anything is actually worth keeping, but Disney specialists might want to have a look.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 13:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Everything seems to have been cleaned up. Ty
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=450304 Taxon name is outdated. TheTechnician27 (talk) 06:10, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is empty anyway which means it can be speedily deleted, will tag it. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Deleted as empty.-- Túrelio (talk) 10:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 2804:29B8:51D5:4574:5D73:65F8:FE5D:F6D7 16:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Vandalism. --Achim55 (talk) 06:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
دانلود.سکس.می.کند 2A01:5EC0:2013:952C:8017:DCFF:FEA2:FCE8 12:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Nothing to discuss. --Achim55 (talk) 14:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Category:1877 in rail transport in Switzerland (plus a few other years since 1840)
[edit]apparently User:L. Beck wants this to be deleted as we only have 1878 yet, not 1877
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 14:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- As soon as you have relevant files that can be sorted into these categories, please let us know. But don't create hundreds of empty categories so that they might be filled at some point. Lukas Beck (talk) 14:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- A dozen categories isn't "hundreds". And no, creating them one by one isn't helpful. If you want to delete any of them, please open a CfD.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 14:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- A dozen categories isn't "hundreds". And no, creating them one by one isn't helpful. If you want to delete any of them, please open a CfD.
Done: Empty category. --Yann (talk) 15:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
none of the cats exist and it has cat "People people urinating while urinating". Clean up such messed up cats pls. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner: revised on 28 January 2024 and caused the mess. Having cleaned up the mess, ready to withdraw this case, please?--Jusjih (talk) 13:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, withdrawn, thanks. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Closed by | Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 17:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
Diese von mir eingerichtete Kategorie ist leider eine falsch benannte, weshalb ich sie zur richtig benannten weitergeleitet habe. Aus meiner Sicht ist die also die „Category:Östlich von Oelzsch“ zu löschen, wofür ich, ihr Autor, hiermit den Antrag stelle. Huth, Andreas (talk) 14:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Comment This is an obvious case for a speedy deletion of a badly named category. I have set up a bad name deletion request there, so this is solved here. --Kleeblatt187 (talk) 18:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Category Md Mofizur Rahaman was created by Commons user Mofizur Rahaman! All the image files are unused pics of Mofizur Rahaman. This is a Commons category that is being used as a Wikipedia BLP written by the subject, along with references and external links. FeralOink (talk) 13:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- The question is if he is notable enough or not.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 14:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)- @Enhancing999@FeralOink
- Md Mofizur Rahaman is an Editor and Cinematographer.
- proof
- https://www.imdb.com/name/nm16599869/
- https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130373885
- https://www.themoviedb.org/person/4971621-md-mofizur-rahaman
- https://filmfreeway.com/MdMofizurRahaman
- https://www.omdb.org/en/us/person/309734-md-mofizur-rahaman 103.166.59.63 15:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hang on a sec. How precisely was a man born in 1998 the cinematographer for the 1961 film "Pankatilak"? Is he also a time traveler? Omphalographer (talk) 17:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Delete all. Blatant self-promotion. Commons is neither your personal free web host nor a vehicle to promote your career. en:Draft:Md Mofizur Rahaman has been rejected 4 times. --Achim55 (talk) 16:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not really, the category description is perfectly reasonable. Notable people are welcome to upload images of themselves to Commons (or even write articles about themselves on German Wikipedia). That an article is rejected on enwiki doesn't really matter. Not entirely convinced though if the threshold of notability is reached.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:35, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Commons is not a place for Wikipedia type articles. Also, who says he is notable?! Everyone whose self-authored BLP articles get rejected from Wikipedia should not recreate them on Commons.--FeralOink (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see a Wikipedia type article. Which page are you talking about?
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)- I am referring to the Category for this person. Please see my initial proposal for discussion above. It resembles a stub article on Wikipedia. Also, since when have "notable people" been "welcome to upload images of themselves to Commons"? If people are welcome to write self authored BLPs on German Wikipedia, that may be a more appropriate place for this person.--FeralOink (talk) 16:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- The text doesn't really go beyond what is expected on a category page. Also, including references is desirable if there is no Wikipedia article on the topic. Fixing formatting doesn't require deletion.
- I think the answer to your other question is likely since inception. How did you get the opposite idea?
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 17:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh great; he has added another EIGHT photos of himself. He made himself an infobox and everything. That looks like an ersatz Wikipedia article to me. Achim55's points are all valid.--FeralOink (talk) 17:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I am referring to the Category for this person. Please see my initial proposal for discussion above. It resembles a stub article on Wikipedia. Also, since when have "notable people" been "welcome to upload images of themselves to Commons"? If people are welcome to write self authored BLPs on German Wikipedia, that may be a more appropriate place for this person.--FeralOink (talk) 16:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see a Wikipedia type article. Which page are you talking about?
- Commons is not a place for Wikipedia type articles. Also, who says he is notable?! Everyone whose self-authored BLP articles get rejected from Wikipedia should not recreate them on Commons.--FeralOink (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Done: Deleted the category and all of the user's uploads (again). It's clear that they are only on Commons for self promotion. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
i really looking forward to delete my page Officialzhwan (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Closed: I think you're in the wrong place. Omphalographer (talk) 23:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Given that this is not the only memorial to John T. Williams (there is also the Category:John T. Williams Memorial Totem Pole) I would suggest appending "crosswalk" to the category name. Jmabel ! talk 23:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sure! Or pedestrian crossing? I don't feel strongly, just based on en:Pedestrian crossings in Seattle / en:Pedestrian crossing ("crosswalk" redirects here) -Another Believer (talk) 00:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with "pedestrian crossing". But we need something. @Another Believer: I think we can consider that consensus, since you created the category. - Jmabel ! talk 00:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yup! No objection to a move from me. -Another Believer (talk) 00:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with "pedestrian crossing". But we need something. @Another Believer: I think we can consider that consensus, since you created the category. - Jmabel ! talk 00:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Actions | move to Category:John T. Williams memorial pedestrian crossing, no redirect needed | |||
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| Closed by | Jmabel ! talk 00:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
Category description pages for the following seems to be the same:
- Category:darkclue
- Category:Dark Clue
- Category:darkcluemusic
- Category:Dark Clue Music
- Category:dcmplayer
- Category:DCM Player
This can probably be reduced to 3 or fewer categories.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 04:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- I condensed it a bit. Seems somewhat spammy.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 05:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
cleaned it up.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 21:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Schreibfehler in der Kategorie Rigorius (talk) 10:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
many files in here are not about the contents but e.g. about the contributors or readers – please help move them to Category:Wikimedia maps of the world and create new subcats. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:49, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- no objection, this was created three years before your suggested replacement, and also before the current subcategories. Older doesn't mean better here. --Enyavar (talk) 13:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Actions |  Merge Category:Maps of the world about Wikimedia contents into Category:Wikimedia maps of the world | |||
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| Closed by | Josh (talk) 20:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Duplicate of the parent category and it should be upmerged (including restructuring all the duplicate Demolition/Demolitions subcategories). Normally we have plural category names, but we can consider the term "Demolition" as the activity, so we can leave the parent category as is (see COM:CAT). P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Closed by | Josh (talk) 20:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
I have migrated all of the files that used to be hosted here to new subcategories couched under the Category:Oz (franchise) tag. As such there is no longer a need for this category. SDudley (talk) 17:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @SDudley It seems reasonable to leave this as a redirect as not all may be familiar with the naming of the franchise, do you agree? Josh (talk) 20:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- that makes sense to me! I am totally ok with a redirect instead of straight deletion. good suggestion. SDudley (talk) 21:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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| Closed by | Josh (talk) 22:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
we have specific categories now Mateus2019 (talk) 04:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Closed by | Josh (talk) 23:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
What are the differences between Category:Men and women and Category:Men with women? If none, downmerge Category:Men and women to Category:Men with women, as the latter is consistent with categories like Category:Female humans with male humans and Category:Boys with girls. Note that Category:Boys and girls redirect to Category:Boys with girls. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 08:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- so it shall be done --Mateus2019 (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Overdue! Good catch, Sbb1413. Josh (talk) 01:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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| Closed by | Josh (talk) 01:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Although there are various solid objects resembling water ice (see Category:Ice in science), the term "ice" generally refers to solid water. So I think Category:Water ice should be merged into Category:Ice and other icy solids (like Category:Dry ice, Category:Solid nitrogen) should be removed from Category:Ice in science, thus restricting the Category:Ice category to solid water. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 08:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's empty now anyway. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- But someone (maybe the creator) would use it to duplicate the category tree of Category:Ice, just to broaden the definition of the term. However, the corresponding Wikipedia article of water ice is simply ice, consistent with the common usage. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 07:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I think Category:Village pounds, Category:Pinfolds, Category:Pinfolds in the United Kingdom, Category:Pinfolds in England, and Category:Town pounds need some amount of reorganization. They're all generally referring to the same thing of a historic animal pound (Wikidata Q4764963 I think). Village pounds is in the "Village structures in England" category (though I haven't confirmed everything in it is actually in England), which makes it weird that it has a subcategory structure of Pinfolds that has Pinfolds in the United Kingdom which in turn has Pinfolds in England. Then Town Pounds seems to mostly be about historic pounds in New England, though there looks to be one entry there from France. I think all of these probably should be moved into a new hierarchy by location under a new "Historic animal pounds" category or something along those lines. But I'm relatively new to Commons and not really sure what the right organizational structure is. It's my understanding that "pinfold" and "pound" are just synonymous terms, with some slight preferences for one or the other in different locations. PeterCooperJr (talk) 13:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Just to have a concrete proposal as a starting point, here is the current hierarchy:
Animal shelters
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
└ Animal shelters by location
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
└ Animal shelters by country
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
└ Animal shelters in the United Kingdom
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
└ Animal pounds in the United Kingdom
├ Animal pounds in England
│ └ (Categories for specific localities)
└ Animal pounds in Wales
Enclosures
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
├ Enclosures (agriculture)
│ ├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
│ └ Village pounds
│ ├ (Categories for specific localities)
│ └ Pinfolds
│ └ Pinfolds in the United Kingdom
│ ├ (Categories for specific localities)
│ └ Pinfolds in England
│ └ (Categories for specific localities)
└ Town pounds
└ (Categories for specific localities)
And here's a proposed new structure:
Enclosures (agriculture)
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
└ Historic animal pounds
├ Animal pounds in the United Kingdom
│ ├ Animal pounds in England
│ │ └ (Categories for specific localities)
│ └ Animal pounds in Wales
└ Animal pounds in the United States
└ (Categories for specific localities)
Which would be implemented using these specific changes:
- Create new Category:Historic animal pounds, with parent category Category:Enclosures (agriculture).
- Update Wikidata Q4764963 to reference that new category instead of "Village pounds".
- Category:Animal pounds in the United Kingdom: remove parent category Category:Animal shelters in the United Kingdom, add parent categories Category:Historic animal pounds and Category:Agricultural buildings in the United Kingdom
- Create new category Category:Animal pounds in the United States, with parent category Category:Historic animal pounds
- Category:Pinfolds in England: Move child categories and files to be in Category:Animal pounds in England (Double-checking that they're all actually in England) instead; then replace the category with redirect to Category:Animal pounds in England
- Category:Pinfolds in the United Kingdom: Move the couple remaining child categories to be under Category:Animal pounds in England, then replace the category with redirect to Category:Animal pounds in the United Kingdom
- Category:Pinfolds: Recategorize images based on their respective location (to Category:Animal pounds in England or Category:Animal pounds in the United States, then replace the category with redirect to Category:Historic animal pounds
- Category:Village pounds: Move child categories and files to be in Category:Animal pounds in England (Double-checking that they're all actually in England) instead; then replace the category with redirect to Category:Historic animal pounds
- Category:Town pounds: Move child categories and files to be in Category:Animal pounds in the United States (or another locality-based category as applicable), then replace the category with redirect to Category:Historic animal pounds
Again, this is all just intended to be a starting point. But as far as I can tell, "Town pounds", "Village pounds", and "Pinfolds" are all the same exact thing, and I think they should be categorized similarly. I could see an argument for having more categories which are each named more based on what they're locally called in each region, but it should be easy for one to find them in a similar-looking place, and right now they're not. --PeterCooperJr (talk) 22:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- I rather like pinfold, I've never heard it used for anything other than animals, while you definitely get cars in some pounds. So though I've no great objection to some sort of reorganisation, but maybe with pinfolds as the name for animal pounds. Or if this is one of those English v American English things, maybe we use pounds in the US and Pinfolds in England? WereSpielChequers (talk) 10:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm in the US and have only heard the term pounds for these historic structures, though it also seems to be the preferred term in some parts of England. There was some discussion on the OpenStreetMap wiki on the right term to use for mapping these, which included this color-coded query of the terms that have been used, showing a pretty clear regional distinction. The term "pound" seemed to be the more general term (and is what's currently used in the Wikidata term for whatever that's worth). I have no particular objection to using "pinfold" instead if that's the more generic term, or in keeping them both separate if keeping them distinct is useful. I'm far from being an expert on the subject. Right now, there are pounds labeled as pinfolds and pinfolds labeled as pounds, and I think they're just all really trying to say the same thing. PeterCooperJr (talk) 11:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Rather than choosing between "pound" and "pinfold", would including both in the category names make more sense (at least for the UK where both terms are used)? Something along the lines of
Enclosures (agriculture)
├ (Various other categories not relevant to discussion)
└ Historic animal pounds and pinfolds
├ Animal pounds and pinfolds in the United Kingdom
│ ├ Animal pounds and pinfolds in England
│ │ └ (Categories for specific localities)
│ └ Animal pounds and pinfolds in Wales
└ Animal pounds in the United States
└ (Categories for specific localities)
? --PeterCooperJr (talk) 18:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Not seeing any objection, I'm going to go ahead with my proposed moves, and using "pounds and pinfolds" as the category name for the UK categories. I'm pretty sure it'll be better, and any further tweaks could still be done if desired. --PeterCooperJr (talk) 21:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
empty category 2A02:810B:581:C300:D871:768A:48C8:79 18:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Deleted by AntiCompositeNumber. -- CptViraj (talk) 04:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
There is an identical category about this artist - Category:Borys Romanowski Slider one (talk) 06:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- please add {{Category redirect}} to one of them.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 11:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)- Thank you! Added Slider one (talk) 19:31, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
All of the subcategories only contain a single picture. This doesn't feel like a pattern we should be continuing to use. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 17:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all. This is not a useful or appropriate pattern of categorization. These identifiers would be better represented in structured data. Omphalographer (talk) 06:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see how this could work out.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 11:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Conclusion: Consensus to delete these categories and move their content to Photographs by William Lawrence. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 17:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
already exist Category:2 male humans GioviPen GP msg 11:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @GiovanniPen:
Keep Almost all English dictionaries define a "man" as an "adult male human" and it does not include boys aged below 18. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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| Consensus | Resolved by consensus | |||
| Actions | Keep this category. | |||
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| Notes | Any proposal to merge a "men" category to its equivalent "male humans" category (or vice versa) should be speedily closed, as the distinction between the two categories is well-established. However, there's no prejudice against having a central discussion challenging the current category structure. | |||
| Closed by | Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 02:58, 13 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I had recreated this category for various reasons:
- To group categories like Category:Children, Category:Young adults, Category:Young musicians and Category:Young and old people.
- To provide categories for people who look young but are hard to guess whether they are children, teenagers or adults since the transition from adolescence to adulthood is gradual and not always apparent.
- To have a people equivalent of the category Category:Youth, similar to Category:Babies/Category:Infancy, Category:Children/Category:Childhood, Category:Teenagers/Category:Adolescence, Category:Old people/Category:Human old age and so on.
Joshbaumgartner has moved the original categories to Category:Young adults since the categories began to cover only young adults at that point, excluding children and teenagers. A 2010 discussion defined "young people" as adults aged between 18 and 40. Anyway, this CFD is due to Josh objecting to my recreation of the categories, since I'm unable to explain the utility of such categories to him. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 13:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would certainly consider children and adolescents "young people", and presuming we are doing this sort of categorization by age contingent at all (which I don't necessarily support), everything Sbb1413 says here sounds reasonable. - Jmabel ! talk 17:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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