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Archive February 2015
This category duplicates the more proper name in Category:Absaroka Range and images in this category have been moved to Absaroka Range --Mike Cline (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Absaroka Range as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Personal image : Commons is not an image hosting website Mike Hayes (talk) 19:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, empty after Commons:Deletion requests/File:Venus Shah 02.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Venus Shah.jpg. --rimshottalk 23:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Misspelling, albeit a fairly common one, of Mallotus philippensis. I have already moved the seven files it contained to that cat, and will make sure nothing is lost from the description or parent cats. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 01:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC) (Taxonavigation template has now been copied over, 02:15, 3 February 2015 (UTC).)
- If this is a common misspelling, we should leave a redirect in place. --rimshottalk 07:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved, with redirect, to Category:Mallotus philippensis. --rimshottalk 01:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
This category should be moved to Category:Siegerland Airport to keep inline with policy of categories being in English. Recent changes 2015 (talk) 10:29, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Comment from the Cat's creator: As opposed to other examples of german airports such as Flughafen Frankfurt, Flughafen Berlin-Tegel, or Flughafen Hamburg which carry generic names. Siegerlandflughafen is a proper name. Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, proper names are an exception to the "must be english" rule. However, if it helps to harmonize the category system, I'm perfectly fine with moving it. --El Grafo (talk) 12:44, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Their logo has "Siegerland-Flughafen" and the website is at Siegerland-Airport. Also, half of the instances of their name on that site is "Siegerland Flughafen". In international contexts (e.g. at this expo, they use "Siegerland Airport". In summary: if "Siegerlandflughafen" is a proper name, then the airport company has some really poor spelling, as they don't seem to manage to spell it that way even once. I think "Siegerland Airport" should be used, because that seems to be the official English name of the airport. --rimshottalk 22:12, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- My bad, the official name of the operating company seems to be Siegerland-Flughafen GmbH, so I guess it should indeed be Siegerland-Flughafen instead of Siegerlandflughafen. "Siegerland Flughafen" with a space, on the other hand, is something that doesn't really exist in German (we either merge two nouns into one or connect them with a "-"), but it's increasingly used by marketing people for their products ("Frucht Joghurt" = "fuit yoghurt"). So common that people get confused and forget the common rules of spelling ;-)
- Let's just move it to Category:Siegerland Airport and be done with it … --El Grafo (talk) 10:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- Their logo has "Siegerland-Flughafen" and the website is at Siegerland-Airport. Also, half of the instances of their name on that site is "Siegerland Flughafen". In international contexts (e.g. at this expo, they use "Siegerland Airport". In summary: if "Siegerlandflughafen" is a proper name, then the airport company has some really poor spelling, as they don't seem to manage to spell it that way even once. I think "Siegerland Airport" should be used, because that seems to be the official English name of the airport. --rimshottalk 22:12, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Siegerland Airport as per discussion. --rimshottalk 22:33, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Not used any more The_Photographer (talk) 17:14, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Delist If the Category:Featured pictures of Brazil by User:Wilfredor was deleted because it is not in use, can not exist this category. 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 19:07, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 23:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Misspelled word Californa [sic] should be California with an i JaconaFrere (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Done per nom COM:REDCAT {{badname|Hotels in Baja California (state)}}. –Be..anyone (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Seems to be nonsense. Jahobr (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is either vandalism or it was accidentally created. Anyhow, it serves no use. --rimshottalk 22:05, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, accidental creation. --rimshottalk 22:05, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Empty category. DLindsley Need something? 19:10, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Closed as the category has been deleted. DLindsley Need something? 20:19, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
This category was created by mistake in lieu of existing category "Events in Kuibyshevskyi Raion of Donetsk". Nabak (talk) 18:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:34, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Ítalo Manzine Wiliam Silva Duarte (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Is there anything you want to discuss? --rimshottalk 17:52, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Nothing done, probably accidental creation. --rimshottalk 23:37, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Soll gelöscht werden. Begründung: Der Begriff "Soldier" ist eine falsche Übersetzung des deutschen Worts "Soldat". Während Soldat militärische Angehörige aller Teilstreitkräfte beschreibt, ist der englische Begriff soldier auf Angehörige des Heeres beschränkt. Die kann es in der Marine nicht geben. Alle Unterkategorien und Bilder wurden in die Category:People of the Kriegsmarine übertragen. Note: If this request is also required in English please contact me for translation. KuK (talk) 12:36, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- English summary: Solved problem, the category is empty and can be deleted. German summary: Do it yourself für einfache Fälle mit {{Bad name}} oder {{Category redirect}} am Ende wie auf COM:REDCAT erklärt ginge auch, denn bei kontroversen CFD-Diskussionen ist "Kategorie leeren und vollendete Tatsachen schaffen" unerwünscht, und umgekehrt bei gelösten Problemen sind weder Diskussion noch Admin-Rechte nötig ({{Bad name}} ist ein Schnell-Löschantrag). –Be..anyone (talk) 14:42, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Danke für den Hinweis: Mit den Sitten auf commons kenne ich mich leider nicht so aus. Ich stelle den SLA. Gruß, --KuK (talk) 14:46, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Hat geklappert dank Yann. –Be..anyone (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
empty cat categorised as error... Atlasowa (talk) 09:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, empty and obvious typo in name. --rimshottalk 14:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
The whole collection of images of the Statue of Liberty in Las Vegas hotel is subjected to copyright. Therefore, most of these images should be deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:NY NY Vegas.JPG and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Statue of Liberty New York Las Vegas.jpg. George Ho (talk) 02:03, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: Emptied by DR. INeverCry 00:28, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Empty; apparently refers to Sorginetxe (Salvatierra/Agurain). I have no particular preference: although I dislike the slash in the latter name, this cat seems to have attracted all the files. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 00:00, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Empty. --Alan (talk) 17:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Category should be moved and redirected to Category:Bird feeding. It is my understanding that 2 words is the correct spelling (based on en: wiki)? -- Deadstar (msg) 14:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- 7 categories, 117 files, make it so and close this CFD. –Be..anyone (talk) 02:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Probably doesn't make any difference, but I'll wait for the 2 weeks to be up... -- Deadstar (msg) 09:27, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Done Section can be archived. Thanks. -- Deadstar (msg) 12:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Probably doesn't make any difference, but I'll wait for the 2 weeks to be up... -- Deadstar (msg) 09:27, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Bird feeding as per nom. --rimshottalk 22:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Relation of pre-Christian Central American cultures with pre-Christian European Awilix (talk) 19:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Is there anything you want to discuss? --rimshottalk 22:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Nothing done, no reason for discussion given. --rimshottalk 07:22, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty; apparently a misspelling of Semiramide riconosciuta. I don’t think it’s worth redirecting. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it was a misspelling. Please delete it. --Rodomonte (talk) 13:04, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, badly named duplicate of Category:Semiramide riconosciuta. --rimshottalk 07:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
/baher.a lucman 112.208.16.52 08:50, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- What's the issue here? Otherwise a speedy close. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Nothing done, no reason for discussion given. --rimshottalk 22:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Single item in non-standard capitalization cat; propose upmerge to Category:Supramolecular chemistry, which is not excessively large and also appears to contain other polymers DMacks (talk) 17:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. The one item currently in this category should be moved to Category:Supramolecular chemistry and/or Category:Organic polymers. Ed (Edgar181) 19:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Don't delete: The term is common in literature. It is right that it actually contains just one file. --Minihaa (talk) 10:33, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted as misspelled. --Leyo 10:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Remove category: Event page accidentally attributed to the wrong institution because of a typo. All content and links moved to Tuo kulttuuri Wikipediaan at Helsinki City Art Museum Susannaanas (talk) 07:52, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Tuo kulttuuri Wikipediaan at Helsinki City Art Museum, as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Should be "Maps of Herzegovina in the 15th century" Zoupan (talk) 09:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
{{bad name|Maps of Herzegovina in the 15th century}} per nom. –Be..anyone (talk) 03:43, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Should be merged to Category:Pong_Hau_K'i because these are just two different names (Chineese and Punjabi) for the same subject (a board game – see en-wiki page en:Pong Hau K'i). See category talk:Do-guti. CiaPan (talk) 11:20, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I was invited here as uploader a Do-guti board image. Because I have no better idea, I checked Google hits for "do guti" game juego and "pong hau ki" game juego. 38 to 25, looks like a draw. I've never heard about this Pong_Hau_K'i in my life. That's all. I don't protest at all merging categories, I recommend to put an "also refer to..." entry or something like this in the other category's page. No problem. - Orion 8 (talk) 15:31, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- I checked for Polish, and 'gra planszowa "do-guti"' vs. 'gra planszowa "Pong Hau K'i"' results in 106:3. However in English searching for '"do-guti" board game', '"Pong Hau K'i" board game' and '"Pong Hau Ki" board game' results in 95:590:114, and Commons is edited (mainly) in English and naming convention is based on English language. Also the article in en-wiki is en:Pong Hau K'i, not en:Do-guti. --CiaPan (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- Correct argumentation, so, as I said, there is no objection. And thank you for your work. Üdv. - Orion 8 (talk) 20:15, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Done Category moved https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=150833449 --CiaPan (talk) 05:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Action already taken per above. FDMS 4 18:31, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
This category must be deleted. All its files have been moved to Category:Francisco Sanz Baldoví. The name was incorrectly written. Chamarasca (talk) 10:19, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Redirected: Legitimate redirect, not everyone knows how to type í. FDMS 4 18:34, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty; another near-duplicate of Maya artefacts. We generally seem to prefer Maya Xs to Mayan Xs. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 22:21, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- I discovered that so I removed everything from that category to Maya Xs. Another mistakes of mine realised after I created the category. I apologise for my ineptness. It usually stems from finding images that are either uncategorised or in a big general category, so I gather them together under a category name and then discover it's the wrong one as I start to refine the categorisation process EChastain (talk)
Requested speedy deletion (category was only in use for 3 days). FDMS 4 18:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty, while we have Maya masks that matches the apparent established pattern of Maya Xs. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 22:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Again, as above. (My reply above doesn't seem to be showing up. Did I put it in the wrong place?) EChastain (talk) 01:20, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- The monthly XfD pages are built from transcluded sub-pages, of which this is one. The “breadcrumb“ link near the top of this page leads up to the page where all of this month’s CfD discussions are displayed.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 03:10, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Requested speedy deletion (category was only in use for 3 days). FDMS 4 18:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Created by mistake. The correct spelling of this person is David Weissmann - This category is empty now, after creating one in the right name. Ldorfman (talk) 13:24, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Requested speedy deletion. FDMS 4 18:37, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
This is Russavia (confirm by sending me email to [email protected] or asking via IRC). I would like this category deleted as it is now superfluous to any requirements. I created this as a tracking category in support of a a $200 kickstarter grant request. After 3 years, I have yet to see the grant funds, and I doubt now that there is any chance that WMAU will make good on their published grant. Bunch of tight fisted wankers! 213.229.73.7 18:35, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Support --Fæ (talk) 18:41, 1 February 2015 (UTC)- Support EChastain (talk) 00:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
The proper category is Category:Spree in Sohland an der Spree, this one makes no sense. j.budissin /- 12:52, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- Empty category. This page can delete. Another opinion? --Fiver, der Hellseher (talk) 15:17, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:41, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
The purpose of this category is unclear. Maybe it's only very incomplete, there are lots of other CC icons in SVG Creative Commons icons and Creative Commons icons originally from the CC site. Or it should be merged into these two categories. Also see (and please close while at it) CFD/2013/07/Category:Creative_Commons_icons. –Be..anyone (talk) 15:00, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment There is a problem with the validity of the license. Nowhere CC published there icons with a valid free license. What they are talking is merely this. There is an argument that we can consider them as PD with trademarks rights. Anyway Commons need a license; otherwise bot caught them as media without license. So I add them into this category for easiness of future maintenance, if any. Jee 15:18, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- Fixed now with three solutions: two dupes (SVG) killed with a speedy, all raster images have a {{Vva}} link (SVG available) and a CC attribution linking to the CC policy page and a {{Trademarked}}, and the surviving SVGs use a similar strategy linking to their protected versions and the raster versions in a gallery. The tracking category is now empty, maybe close this CFD with a delete. –Be..anyone (talk) 08:49, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
request deletion as Category:Tropojë District already exisits Albinfo (talk) 18:19, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
there is a difference between the city and the district!--NeverDoING (talk) 09:08, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
completely redundant to category:Mosques in Dushanbe → «« Man77 »» [de] 00:23, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Closed as {{Badname}} per COM:REDCAT. –Be..anyone (talk) 18:41, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty after moving one file to the parent cat, no demand for this cat at the moment. [2:240/5815.1] –Be..anyone (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Delete since it's empty now. I made the category originally because there were so many screenshots. I wonder where all these files went. Maybe the copyvio gnomes got hungry and ate some {{PD-text}} menus and topic lists. I've created Category:Screenshots of bulletin board systems instead; many of those seem to be automatic menus or art by the original designers who are now Commons users. --Closeapple (talk) 07:18, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
needs to be deleted as it was created in duplicate with Category:Roman Catholic churces in the Philippines Schadow1 (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- As you created the category and immediately recognized that it is a duplicate, you could put it up for speedy deletion by tagging it with {{bad name|Roman Catholic churches in the Philippines}}. It is not really be necessary to discuss such cases. --Rudolph Buch (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
empty cat categorised as error... Atlasowa (talk) 09:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
empty cat categorised as error... Atlasowa (talk) 09:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
not usefull anymore ; all items were deleted Reptilien.19831209BE1 (talk) 09:07, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
moved to Category:Refrigerators in supermarkets Kopiersperre (talk) 14:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:16, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty, while Boundary markers in Scotland matches its siblings in the UK cat. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, sorry for that. I emptied it when I realised the "of" vs. "in" situation and created Category:Boundary markers in Scotland. Rather Oxyman put a "key" in the Category:Boundary markers in the United Kingdom, I see, looking at the history. (I didn't know about the "key", but now I do, sort of.) Thanks, EChastain (talk) 21:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Closed as {{category redirect|Boundary markers in Scotland}} per COM:REDCAT. –Be..anyone (talk) 18:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty; probably an error for Malacosoma castrense, the ground lackey moth. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 21:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Category created in the name of a synonym. May be destroyed or redirected to the correct name: Malacosoma castrense --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:45, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 03:00, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty, while Tosia seems to be fine without disambiguation. Is there any other “Tosia” to justify the parenthesis? Searching here turns up only an east-European feminine forename. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Currently an unaccepted genus of starfish (Citation: Mah, C. (2014). Tosia (Plinthaster) compta Verrill, 1899. In: Mah, C.L. (2014) World Asteroidea database. Accessed through: World Register of Marine Species at http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=125163 on 2015-02-22) on WoRMS, so may not be needed at all. I would not oppose deletion. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:58, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- Can you read, Peter (Southwood) ? Tosia is a totally valid genus, containing very common species ! The page you sent is about an obsolete subgenus, not about the genus itself. FredD (talk) 09:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- Nah, not a word. Completely illiterate. Don't remember what happened there. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:29, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Can you read, Peter (Southwood) ? Tosia is a totally valid genus, containing very common species ! The page you sent is about an obsolete subgenus, not about the genus itself. FredD (talk) 09:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 03:01, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty, while we have Boeing 737-300 (Shuttle by United), which seems to be the proper name. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty like its 737-300 counterpart, while we have Boeing 737-500 (Shuttle by United), which seems to be the proper name. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty, while we have Cladograms of Orchidaceae: Linnæan names seem to be strongly preferred for scientific (as opposed to cultural & visual) categorization of organisms. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is not even something that needs to be discusssed. We have a consensus for using scientific names for taxonomic/other scientific cat structures. --Pitke (talk) 17:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:50, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty, apparently a misspelling of Dolmens in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:53, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty category. Usually a speedy deletion instead of a CfD, but as it has existed for five years and I can´t see any target for a redirect I thought I´d rather put it up for a third opinion. Rudolph Buch (talk) 18:50, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Delete There's Category:Bundesautobahn_numbers, but they all appear to be blue, not red. Are all Bundesautobahn_numbers blue -- if so, maybe this was a joke. In any case, I'd just delete it. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Well, they do exist (also here), but they're Swiss, not German. So, they should be categorized in Category:Switzerland Autobahn Numbers, not Category:Bundesautobahn numbers (red). Note the somewhat confusing description ("Bundesdeutsche Autobahnnummer" / "German Autobahn number signet" / "for use in swiss autobahns"); I'm guessing this is why I mistakenly categorized these as German Bundesautobahn numbers five years ago (using my old account). Michael Barera (talk) 00:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:51, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
There are no media for this category Zoupan (talk) 21:47, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
To be deleted - replaced by FrederikshavnSkagen Beethoven9 (talk) 21:50, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Awkward category. Pictures are already gathered in Category:Flags of medieval Serbian states Zoupan (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 03:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Delete - empty category DGtal (talk) 16:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 03:03, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories for discussion/2015/02/Category:Liberty Statue (New York, New York hotel) and User:Elcobbola/Models, copyright may apply to Statue of Liberty replicas, like 2008 replicas promoting the All-Star Game at the time. All images of this category should be deleted. George Ho (talk) 07:58, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:17, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
monuements 174.251.96.223 13:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- Is there anything you want to discuss? --rimshottalk 23:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Nothing done, no reason for discussion given, probably accidental creation. --rimshottalk 23:34, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Category:Images from ITESM-Campus Ciudad de México as part of the Experiencias Retadoras editathon Spring 2015
[edit]I was hoping for donations of fotos for the editathon but this will not happen, so this category is unnecssary Thelmadatter (talk) 14:41, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 03:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Empty category and identic to Category:Ships scrapped in Venice Lev. Anthony (talk) 21:10, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 02:18, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
This category seems like a duplication of Category:Event venues. In en:Wikipedia, Event centre redirects to Convention centre. In Commons Category:Convention centers also exists. --ghouston (talk) 01:38, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Since there have been no objections after two months, I'm going to merge it into Event venues. --ghouston (talk) 11:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
This category contains one file. Mike Hayes (talk) 22:56, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
- That just means it's ready for some more :) I don't think there's a need to remove it. It fits in nicely with the "actors from country" and is probably easier to find than looking for an image. -- Deadstar (msg) 09:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Kept, as per Deadstar, after no objections in almost two months. --rimshottalk 21:58, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Can be deleted. Overlapped with Category:Photographs in the Los Angeles County Museum of Art - files now moved there and being sub-categorized. PatHadley (talk) 15:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- With a category that has existed for more than a year and might possibly be linked from elsewhere, I´d rather recommend a category redirect instead of a deletion. --Rudolph Buch (talk) 21:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Photographs in the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, as per Rudolph Buch. --rimshottalk 22:04, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
This category should be merged into Category:Countryside in Brazil. Mateus S. Figueiredo (talk) 04:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted in the meantime. --rimshottalk 19:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Empty, while we have Life history of Tyrannosaurus. Not being very familiar with palæontological categorization, I have no basis to prefer either one over the other, but we certainly don’t need both. —Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Seems it should be a redirect, though I prefer this title over the one in use. FunkMonk (talk) 23:42, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. There is no reason for this one to be deleted, and in fact it is a more appropriate category name according to discussions on the Paleontology WikiProject talk page. IJReid (talk) 15:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- If there’s no objection in the next few days, then, I’ll move the contents of LHoT into this one, and make that a redirect.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. There is no reason for this one to be deleted, and in fact it is a more appropriate category name according to discussions on the Paleontology WikiProject talk page. IJReid (talk) 15:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Done. I think someone else should close, and please remove the CfD tag.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 19:22, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Merged to Life history of Tyrannosaurus as per discussion. --rimshottalk 22:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Does not seem to be in any real use. Josve05a (talk) 20:46, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Some ancient (2008–2012) scheme, not empty, let it rot in peace, maybe tag it with {{Historical}}. –Be..anyone (talk) 04:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Used on say 2*4=8 DRS.../All/ DRs (sorted by year) can be found here instead. Josve05a (talk) 06:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- If you're confident that it fits into a
bettermodern scheme it's okay. IIRC there are even some still "open" 2012 CFDs. –Be..anyone (talk) 16:26, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- If you're confident that it fits into a
- Used on say 2*4=8 DRS.../All/ DRs (sorted by year) can be found here instead. Josve05a (talk) 06:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I started that as some huge project to map DRs over the years, see trends, being able to make category intersections (eg, see the trend in Freedom of Panorama DRs), but never followed up on this. It would only make sense as a bot maintained thing anyway. Feel free to remove as far as I’m concerned. Jean-Fred (talk) 06:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Requested speedy deletion. FDMS 4 22:37, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
La catégorie a été créée pour une rivière française (la Manse), mais les anglo-saxons y logent des photos d'édifices (presbytères), ou autres. Ambiguïté à lever. Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
J'ajoute que Manse est par ailleurs un toponyme usité dans les Hautes-Alpes. Il existe déjà les catégories Col de Manse et Puy de Manse (et Manse est un hameau de Forest-Saint-Julien, non encore catégorisé). - Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- bonjour François, très bonne observation : l'article français s'appelle Manse (rivière) donc aucun problème pour changer le nom de cette catégorie ! en laissant donc faire avancer cette discussion… A --Philippe rogez (talk) 22:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is mostly a matter of education but to make it clear, I've moved this category to Category:Manse (river) and moved the wrong categorisations to Category:Manses. Rodhullandemu (talk) 21:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Merge as duplicate of pre-existing Category:Lamp designs Andy Dingley (talk) 10:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Category:Lighting product design moved to Category:Lamp designs. Wieralee (talk) 13:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Several issues:
- GU10 isn't a screw (even in German, this isn't a screw). It's either a GU10 bayonet fitting, GU10 bipin fitting or just a GU10 fitting, but it ain't a screw.
- This same issue affects most of the children of Category:Halogen light bulbs
- Category:Halogen light bulbs should be Category:Halogen lamps, per common and correct terminology for the replaceable part.
- Halogens are now becoming somewhat obsolete, in favour of LEDs. Our category structure should reflect this. The primary tree by lamp fitting should be agnostic as to the method of light generation.
Andy Dingley (talk) 10:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Support The category is little populated. I think you can simply perform the adjustments. --Ikar.us (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Comment See Category:LED light bulbs with screw for halogen light bulbs too. Three unrelated things in one! Andy Dingley (talk) 15:20, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Well, the category structure isn't a tree, but an arbitrary network. So there is no primary tree or branch. Category:Lamps-by-fitting and Category:Lamps-by-method-light-generation could exist in parallel and finally lead to intersection categories like this one.
- (Unfortunately, MediaWiki can't comfortably display neither union nor interesection of categories.)
- --Ikar.us (talk) 16:01, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Actually MediaWiki can (and often does do - read my book!) The problem is that Wikimedia don't do this, possibly because of concerns over server load.
- Also the distinction of the MW categorisation as a directed graph (it's not quite arbitrary) rather than the assumed single-rooted tree is another one that is rarely recognised at WMF. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:23, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Closed: User:Andy Dingley moved Category:Halogen light bulbs => Category:Halogen lamps and Category:LED light bulbs => Category:LED lamps. And I moved Category:Halogen_light_bulbs_with_GU10_screw => Category:Halogen lamps with GU10 base Wieralee (talk) 09:33, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Bolts go into nuts, screws do not (by their defining distinction).
This is (yet another) invented Wikineologism. It has no currency in reality. Our diambiguation policy would support Nut (threaded fastener) or many similar variations, but not an invention like this. Even "Bolt nut" would be better. Nut (bolt) at least wouldn't be simply wrong like this.
See also Category:Drawings of screw nuts
Andy Dingley (talk) 17:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- 61 files, 14 subcategories, started by a user: de without en six years ago (or two years ago for the drawings), just fix it as you like per COM:REDCAT. –Be..anyone (talk) 06:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
- For better understanding: In German, "Schraube" is used for both screws and threaded bolts, while "Bolzen" is only used for non-threaded bolts or bolts with a very short section of threads (for a nut) at the end. I guess it's easy to get confused there. Since Category:Nuts is already occupied, Category:Nuts (hardware) could be another option – at least that's how Wikipedia does it. (Note that categories use the plural at Commons) --El Grafo (talk) 17:36, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Nuts (hardware) and Category:Drawings of nuts (hardware) as per nom. and El Grafo. --rimshottalk 20:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I made an error in the title adn created a new category with the correct name. Please delete Thelmadatter (talk) 19:50, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- It's not empty. What is the correct name? --rimshottalk 20:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- Correct name seems to be Tepoztlán en la Mirada project. I've moved the remaining files and tagged it with {{Bad name}} for deletion. - Themightyquill (talk) 16:20, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Files moved and category deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:35, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Is there any practical difference between this and Category:Boundary markers of the Great Western Railway or is this duplication? Oxyman (talk) 13:56, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- I had trouble with categorising these and probably made mistakes. Feel free to fix. Of the two above, I prefer Category:Boundary markers of the Great Western Railway because it starts with "Boundary markers" which is the subject of the subsequent categorisations, ending with Category:Boundary markers by country. Thanks! a-z1a2b3c4d (talk) 14:19, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Just a dupe, merge Andy Dingley (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Kept, transmogrified into redirect. Taivo (talk) 22:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
There is no media on the lake. 117Avenue (talk) 22:17, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment It's probably my fault. I didn't create the category, but I saw that all the media in that category had the description: "Hasbala Lake boundary marker". So I created Category:Hasbala Lake boundary marker and put the media with that description in it. I think there were four. (Note: File:Hasbala Lake obelisk.jpg is a redirect from File:Hasbala Lake boundary marker North side 1962.jpg.) So maybe the category doesn't need to exist if there is no Hasbala Lake? EChastain (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Also, there is a Category:Boundary markers by country, so I fit it into that. (and I just found another "Hasbala Lake boundary marker" and added it.) So there should be five. EChastain (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- And there is a Category:Boundary stones by country and I was careful to keep them separate. EChastain (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Also there is a Category:Benchmarks by country and Category:Obelisks by country and I think they should be kept separate. Do you mind if I separate out the "Obelisks" into their own category to keep everything clean? EChastain (talk) 01:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- This discussion is about the lake, not the monuments. Do you think there should be a category for the lake? It is not notable for an article, and it is not noticeable in the only picture of it. 117Avenue (talk) 07:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Also there is a Category:Benchmarks by country and Category:Obelisks by country and I think they should be kept separate. Do you mind if I separate out the "Obelisks" into their own category to keep everything clean? EChastain (talk) 01:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- And there is a Category:Boundary stones by country and I was careful to keep them separate. EChastain (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, the category is still empty. Taivo (talk) 08:36, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
empty cat categorised as error... Atlasowa (talk) 09:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- In Category:Zhniwniok in Silesia going regional features holiday Dozhinki in Silesia. Please do not delete this category. Here are these files for this category:
- File:Zniwniok opolsk.jpg,
- File:Żniwniok na Śląsku Opolskim 1924.jpg,
- File:Żniwniok w Wójtowej Wsi.jpg,
- File:Zniwniok opolsk Wyjazd starostow.jpg.
- Similar category – Okrezhne. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 11:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, unused, all proposed files for the category are also deleted. Taivo (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
empty cat categorised as error... Atlasowa (talk) 09:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Apparently moved to Category:Kamień Peak 717 m, which is in line with all other peaks in Category:Bukowica, but a format not used elsewhere as far as I'm aware. --rimshottalk 14:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, as much as I understand, author's request on creation day. Taivo (talk) 22:27, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I created thsi category. This category is now a category redirect, and it is OK for me. I propose the deletion of the present category. I understood that the word traces is innapropriate. Tangopaso (talk) 15:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted as per nom. --rimshottalk 18:24, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
This category has been split into two proper ones: Category:Ottoman period in the history of Serbia and Category:Habsburg period in the history of Serbia. Zoupan (talk) 19:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 18:28, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Move to Category:Sopoćani as per Sopoćani Zoupan (talk) 09:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Agree that is good catch. --Anastan (talk) 10:43, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Sopoćani as per nom. --rimshottalk 18:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Move to Category:Maglič as per Maglič Zoupan (talk) 09:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Done, gallery as well. --Achim (talk) 20:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
empty cat categorised as error... Atlasowa (talk) 09:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- This was apparently moved to Category:Zrubań Peak 776 m, but I very much prefer the original category name. Why add the height to the category name? Is there more than one "Zrubań" and can they be only distinguished by their height? If not, this should be moved back to the original name. --rimshottalk 14:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted. Riley Huntley (talk) 05:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
This category has recently been blanked and redirected to "Category:Lanterns in Japan" as a synonym. This is wrong and should be reverted.
Firstly, Tōrō is the correct term for these lanterns. They're somewhat specialised and this is indeed the word used when discussing them. It is an act of cultural ignorance, even if not downright chauvinism, to blank the term in this way.
Secondly, they're obviously a subset, not a superset. Paper lanterns are "Lanterns in Japan", but they're not Tōrō.
I would guess that this category was blanked because it has those dang funny furrin letters in it and one can't type it easily on an AOL keyboard. The fix for that is to redirect to the correct category name, not to redirect from it.
Andy Dingley (talk) 10:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
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"Firstly, Tōrō is the correct term for these lanterns. They're somewhat specialised and this is indeed the word used when discussing them. It is an act of cultural ignorance, even if not downright chauvinism, to blank the term in this way."
Well firstly, Andy, I deplore your name-calling and ad hominem argumentation.
"I would guess that this category was blanked because it has those dang funny furrin letters in it and one can't type it easily on an AOL keyboard. The fix for that is to redirect to the correct category name, not to redirect from it."
No, I redirected it to the superset because it was not being populated consistently. Tōrō is a general word for any traditional, non-paper lantern of Japan; bronze, stone, standing, or hanging. Of course I could have just moved all the non-paper lantern images from Lanterns into Tōrō, but then I would probably have gotten grief about that too. And the next uploader to come along would just have started propagating the confusion all over again.
Is it better to insist on a technical category that few will use correctly, or to merge it into a wider category that is findable and understandable by far the greater number of people?
Michael D. Gunther (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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- I'm not good at writing in English, therefore permission to speak in Japanese.
- 英語ではランタンは照明器具全般を指すのだと思います。ですが、日本では手で持つものと、設置するもので名称が異なります。提灯(Chōchin)は設置、あるいは手で持つ場合がありますが、灯篭(Tōrō)は手で持つことはありません。どちらもランタン(lanterns)なのですが、明確な違いがあったため、区別しました。--Ocdp (talk) 12:54, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for your examples! May I ask, the hanging bronze lanterns at
Kasuga Taisha, are they tōrō? My understanding of tōrō (灯篭) is heavy lanterns; andon (行灯), bonbori (雪洞), and chōchin (提灯) made of paper.
So if some kinds of lanterns are paper, and if tōrō is everything else, then we don't need a separate category for tōrō because, well, if it's not paper then it's automatically tōrō.
Also, original meaning of tōrō is just lantern in general, isn't it? Sorry if my dictionary is a few hundred years out of date!
Reference: Wikipedia:Traditional_lighting_equipment_of_Japan, and also Wikipedia:Tōrō.
Michael D. Gunther (talk) 20:50, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes.those metal lanterns in Kasuga-taisha are Tōrō.
- Most of tōrō is made of metal, wood, and stone. but, some tōrō is made of paper. so, material is not enough for separation.
- Example: Festival that the link represents is called Tōrō-nagashi. Those tōrō thrown into river is made from paper and a few wooden frame.Tōrō-nagashi
- Reference: Wikipedia:Tōrō_nagashi
- 紙や金属、木材など、素材での分別と、灯篭、提灯、行灯などの分別は一致しないということです。--Ocdp (talk) 13:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted. Riley Huntley (talk) 05:51, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
There's also Category:Queen's University Belfast, so propose to name this Category:Queen's University, Kingston -- Deadstar (msg) 15:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Kingston institution refers to itself simply as "Queen's University", or sometimes "Queen's", whereas the Belfast institution refers to itself as "Queen's University Belfast" (see this, for example), or sometimes "Queen's". We can ignore "Queen's" for both, as it's too generic. The current category titles are consistent with English Wikipedia titles (Kingston; Belfast), so I think they should be kept. If this one is to change, it should probably be "Category:Queen's University at Kingston", as that is the official of the institution. Mindmatrix 12:42, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Queen's University at Kingston is fine with me too - I still think it needs to change to disambiguate the title. -- Deadstar (msg) 14:57, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- I appreciate the nomination by Deadstar and think the category name should change, but find the concerns of Mindmatrix valid as well. I think parentheses are usually used to indicate a location that is separate from an official name. So I'd like to suggest Category:Queen's University (Kingston) or even just Category:Queen's University (Canada). There is more than one Kingston in the world, but only one Canada, and only one Queen's University in Canada. This existing category should be a disambig category. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - Can we agree Category:Queen's University (Canada)? -- Deadstar (msg) 09:24, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Deadstar: Agreed. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:50, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - Can we agree Category:Queen's University (Canada)? -- Deadstar (msg) 09:24, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Category:Queen's University converted to disambig page with link to Category:Queen's University (Canada). Other sub-categories moved accordingly. Old categories to be deleted rather than redirected. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
As this category may lead to additional categorization for around 150,000 categories and seems somehow redundant to Category:Men by name (which is heavily underpopulated and also questionable), I suggest to seek broader support for its creation before putting more effort into it. Rudolph Buch (talk) 16:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Why is this category already seemingly being moved to Category:People by name? That would seem to be a backward step Andy Dingley (talk) 17:06, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Then there's of course Category:Women by name (flat list), uncategorised just as Category:Men by name (flat list) is uncategorised. What's with Category:Men of the United States by name, Category:Women of Italy by name (with a wrong sort key), Category:Women of France by name (1 member, 1 wrong sortkey), and Category:Women of Russia by name (created long ago). What's the intended scheme, and has it been discussed anywhere? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- I don't really see the need for a separate category for Category:Men by name (flat list) and Category:Men by name. Maybe I don't fully understand the purpose of the flat list variant but they both seem redundant of each other. I do think there is a need for a Men by name/Women by name category, I just don't think we need 2 different ones. Reguyla (talk) 15:07, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- I also tagged Category:Women by name (flat list). BMacZero (talk) 07:20, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that we don't need the duplicate categories -- for example men by name and men by name (flat list). Same for the categories for women. The only reason I think we'd need both is if "men by name" had subcategories like "Men named John Brown". That would make it different from the flat list. However, I don't know if we want categories like that -- disambiguation categories might serve that purpose better.
- User:Andy Dingley asked why the gender-specific categories seemed to be getting merged into "People by name". I don't know why it was done, but one reason for doing it might have to do with the changing understanding of gender identity in today's world. IMO, not only is it becoming less and less important to specify a person's gender, but there are people who identify neither as male nor as female: where do we put them? I'm having trouble thinking of a situation where a person's gender would really matter in our category system, so combining all genders might make sense. If such a combined category is too large, we can subdivide it alphabetically or some other way. Maybe we don't need this kind of category at all. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- I pretty much agree with that but we have a lot of Make/Female categories so that precedent has existed for some time. That's no reason not to change it, I just wanted to bring up that point. Personally I think just having a People by name category is fine and I am even generally ok with separating them by gender although I don't think it's needed. I definitely do not think we need to catetgories for the same things though like Gender by name with and without (flat list) and I think we should limit the scope of this discussion to those. If we want to expand that on what to do with gender categories in general I think that would be best done as a larger RFC policy change. Reguyla (talk) 17:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- I do not think we need "gender by name" categories, I can not imagine why would one want to use them. If the reason is statistics than wikidata is much better place to keep attributes of each person. I would vote for concentrating our efforts on adding all people categories to Category:People by name and synchronizing that category with Wikidata. I suspect that with https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ one can get a list of commons categories, per gender. --Jarekt (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- The "By name" categories seem mostly useful for avoiding clutter in the parent categories such as Category:Men. However I don't think that Category:Men by name (flat list) is needed, mostly because Category:People by name already exists as a flat list and I don't see why separate lists for men, women etc., are useful. Category:Men by name (flat list) is not an exact duplicate of Category:Men by name however, since that one is now split into subcategories by country. --ghouston (talk) 01:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- It seems that there's consensus to delete the Category:Men by name (flat list) and Category:Women by name (flat list) categories. I'll do that some time, after copying the contents to Category:People by name and then moving them to the matching non-flat categories. Unless there's a convincing objection. --ghouston (talk) 22:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Closing as above. --ghouston (talk) 05:39, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Images are not used in any project; were uploaded under dubious copyright license; and the subject of the photographs has requested they be deleted. See this discussion on en. ONUnicorn (talk) 19:34, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- The images themselves should be nominated for deletion if this is your intention. This forum would just to be to delete a category and file the images in some other category. I do see, however, that the images have been nominated for deletion. As the creator of the category I have no objections (if the images themselves are deleted) to delete the category. It was created only for organizational purposes and is specific to a particular individual. – Adrignola talk 20:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep; it's useful for holding the images. If the images are all deleted, this category can be tagged with {{Empty page}} and speedy deleted. Nyttend (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- note on en:wiki, the article relevant to these images, en:Laurelle Mehus, has been deleted, per en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laurelle Mehus. EChastain (talk) 16:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- The deletion requests on the images failed, so there's no reason to delete the category. --ghouston (talk) 10:42, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Keeping per User:Ghouston. BMacZero (talk) 07:49, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
This category, and the files in it, have no educational purpose whatsoever. Fictional "community". Zoupan (talk) 05:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
So long as the images exist, it makes sense to keep the category. @Zoupan: You can nominate the individual images for deletion if you'd like. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
According to no FoP in Georgia, and information from this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_of_Peace_(Georgia)), all images from this category should be deleted, because it is a new building opened in 2010. The same we did with images of the new building of the Georgian Parliament. Halavar (talk) 12:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Maybe, but please note that there are some images where the bridge is not the main object, such as this. See the ARTICLE 24 of Georgia's law on copyright and neighboring rights. –BruTe Talk 12:38, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Yes, that image is good, and can stay as we may use the rule of de minimis". Halavar (talk) 12:43, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep the images that depict the bridge as part of a panorama. These are: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. --Kober (talk) 05:00, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Most of the images were deleted, but two were kept. As long as they exist (and maybe even if they didn't) it makes sense to have a category. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:37, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Reasons for discussion request
This category is a mix of two different artists:
- Peter Benjamin Graham (1925–1987) Australian visual artist and art theorist
- Peter Graham (1836–1921) Scottish artist
It should be split into two. Pengo (talk) 09:33, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Do we have images for any of the other Peter Grahams? If yes, this should be disambiguated, if no, Peter Benjamin Graham should get his own category and maybe a link from Peter Graham. --rimshottalk 19:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes we have. Disambiguation is necessary. The category:Peter Graham (1836–1921) is ready ; the categoryredirect from category:Peter Benjamin Graham was inopportune. A1AA1A (talk) 10:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Converted to disambig page by A1AA1A in July 2016. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:44, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
This category does not follow standard form and is thus confusing. The category structure usually consists of "United Kingdom" then "England", "Northern Ireland", "Scotland" or "Wales". Oxyman (talk) 14:15, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- ok, I was confused about that and spent time trying to figure it out. I defer to your better judgment. (Is there so place that explains the order these should go in?) Is "Britain" no longer used or has a special meaning? There are categories for Britain e.g. Category:Preserved Railway wagons of Britain, Category:Railway wagons of Britain and so on, so when is it proper to use "Britain" in a category name? User:EChastain (talk) 14:32, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Preserved Railway wagons of Britain is particularly embarrassing as I created that when I was a novice to this project as a subcategory of Category:Railway wagons of Britain. It is all rather confusing File:British Isles Euler diagram 15.svg may help. I don't know how the United Kingdom's category structure was standardised as it is now or where there is an explanation for this (en:Wikipedia?), but as it is now established I feel it's best to follow it. The Railway categories in the United Kingdom are indeed a demonstration of what happens if you don't follow a standard structure (There are other things that make the Railway subcats of the UK a dog's dinner but I'll avoid going into them now). There have been disagreements about how to categorise railway vehicles in the UK https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2011/03/Category:Industrial_locomotives_of_Britain is one example. I know there are others but am unsure where they are now. The categories you point out are (as far as I'm concerned) non standard and by "Britain" they actually mean "Great Britain". Ideally they should be renamed using "United Kingdom" but does anyone have the heart to deal with the resulting drama? Sorry my reply is not more definite. Oxyman (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for the explanation. Embarrassing for me too, as I went to school in Northern Ireland as a kid, and the British Isles divisions were never discussed. That link is very helpful. User:EChastain (talk) 16:52, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Images sorted and category deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Nonsense name for a collection of mixed subcats by city, by state, by county, etc. See similar situation in archived CFD 2014/11. DenghiùComm (talk) 00:23, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Keep It is already big enough to keep. And if Commons keep growing, soon we'll need categories by location for each city, state and so one. We can start organizing these categories now. By now, four submetacategories (1, 2, 3, 4) is enough, but Category:Buildings in England by location by county is starting to emergeI looked for other categories and this is the biggest submetacategory BartekChom (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC).. Finally we'll need Category:Architecture of Poland by city by voivodeship (when Category:Architecture of Poland by city will be too crowded — there are 915 towns in Poland — if everything goes right, all will need their categories). Actually, at least Category:Categories by subject by subject was probably already useful. BartekChom (talk) 15:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Delete ! A location can be a county, a province, a region, a city, a district, a state, .... It has sense to create categories e.g. by location by county or by city by location, etc. But categories by location by location (like by subject by subject) they means absolutely nothing, so they have no sense and have only to be deleted ! --DenghiùComm (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Categories in location by location is a supercategory for all categories like by location by county or by city by location. Without it, they would make mess in Categories by location. There can by very many of them in the transitional period (Categories of Gmina Rewal by location, Fauna of Asturias by location, Buildings of Bobirwa Sub-district by location...) and in the case of full development Categories by county, province, region, city, district, state... by location plus History by county, province, region, city, district, state... by location making mess in History by location if you delete History by location by location and so on. BartekChom (talk) 19:32, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
I repeat: name like by location by location or by subject by subject are not correct. They contrast with the guidelines of Commons:Categories, namely the "Selectivity principle" (We should not classify items which are related to different subjects in the same category. The category name should be unambiguous and not homonymous.). --DenghiùComm (talk) 19:06, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- This principle means rather that we should not mix Category:Sun and Category:Sun Microsystems. by location by location concerns categories for sublocations — one meaning. BartekChom (talk) 18:38, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Whereas I understand Denghiù's concern, nonetheless this meta-category is useful for dumping every subcategory that categorizes topics by location by whatsoever location. Yes, I may concede that its name is somewhat bizarre, but that's because location is the broadest term that encompasses populated places, administrative units, villages, and so on. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:10, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- Keep --Allforrous (talk) 03:31, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
No consensus to delete. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Should this category be renamed something like Category:251 King Street East? The current name for the condo development is "King plus" or "King plus condo". So a name that applies to both the original structure and the new structure, may make sense. Geo Swan (talk) 01:55, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. These things evolve, so good one for keeping an eye out for it. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:24, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved to Category:251 King Street East as per Geo Swan. I left the sub-categories alone - I hope that's okay. - Themightyquill (talk) 16:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Wondering if this shouldn't be merged into Category:Holocaust-related organizations. As far as I understand "Holocaust Memorial Service" refers to "Austrian Holocaust Memorial service. Jwh (talk) 02:09, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, "merge" was the wrong word. I should have done what you did instead... But is this the right place for Category:Marsz Pamięci 2013 (Warsaw Ghetto)? For the File:Z120127a-5 (6771758387).jpg? Guess the "service" (should be services anyway) creates confusion. "Volunteering" or something like that, might describe it better. --Jwh (talk) 17:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with you. I don't see any organization with the name "Holocaust Memorial Service". Probably it meant to be a category for the ceremonies for the remembering the Holocaust. -- Geagea (talk) 07:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Probebly should be in Category:Commemorative ceremonies. -- Geagea (talk) 07:34, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Jwh and Geagea: Would you be okay with a move to Category:Holocaust commemoration ceremonies?? - Themightyquill (talk) 19:53, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds good within the existing Category:Commemoration of the Holocaust as a category for ceremonies, like Marsz Pamięci 2013 (Warsaw Ghetto), Journée de la mémoire de l'Holocauste et de la prévention des crimes contre l'humanité in Luxembourg, Concert en mémoire des victimes de la Shoah, 27 janvier 2016 etc and to where a lot of files like File:FM Paet at the commemoration ceremony to Holocaust victims 27.01.2011 (5395629396).jpg, File:Holocaust Memorial Day Toronto 2010.jpg, File:Z120127a-5 (6771758387).jpg could be moved.
Category:Holocaust Memorial Service could then be renamed into Gedenkdienst (Austrian Holocaust Memorial Service) and should be moved (as well as Category:Action Reconciliation Service for Peace) to Category:Holocaust-related organizations.--Jwh (talk) 00:04, 19 February 2017 (UTC)- Category:Austrian Holocaust Memorial Service exists already, as I see now... --Jwh (talk) 00:12, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
- 1. -- Geagea (talk) 00:15, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Holocaust commemoration ceremonies and deleted. @Jwh and Geagea: I've added some categories and images, but please feel free to add more. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Under what aspect are files put in Category:Maritime instead of Category:Seafaring (which is the only uppercat of Maritime). It looks like all categories in Maritime could simply be recategorized directly under Seafaring without loss of information or usability. Rudolph Buch (talk) 11:15, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- It seems evident, that what we have here are two categories with more or less the same broad definition. So one of them is redundant. However, seafaring is not defined in en:wikipedia, which is troublesome in a Wikidata connection. Maritime is not defined either, but at least there is a large category in en:wikipedia for Maritime culture, which, by the look of its content, is the same thing. So here at least we have a possibility to make a Wikidata connection and to have some coherency in the project. So my suggestion would be to scratch (redirect) seafaring and put everything under maritime, linked to en:Category:Maritime culture via Wikidata. --Rsteen (talk) 10:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- "Maritime" as an adjective can be attached to anything related to the sea, such as maritime animals and maritime weather. Some of its subcategories don't belong in seafaring either, like maritime places and maritime buildings. It also has a subcategory "marine" which is nearly a synonym for maritime. I don't think adjectives like maritime and marine are good category names. --ghouston (talk) 04:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- So, how about using Maritime culture as a common category for things related to seafaring and naval items. It is good enough for en:Wikipedia, so why not for Commons? I wish to emphasize the importance of using similar descriptions across the project, which makes it much easier to connect via Wikidata. --Rsteen (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- I´d assume that "Maritime culture" is more narrow than seafaring and would expect only content related to traditions and arts in that category. I think we should simply dissolve both categories - "maritime" as well as "seafaring" - and move all the subcats directly to "Category:Water transport. This category already has a twin at EN-Wikipedia and, judging by the content, there´s no real distinction between water transport, ship transport, sea faring, naval issues or maritime issues. --Rudolph Buch (talk) 15:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it would give us a simpler and more compact structure, which can only be a good thing. So Category:Water transport is okay with this user. --Rsteen (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- I also think that that's a good idea. Otherwise it's an attempt subdivide Category:Water transport into "Seafaring" vs all the aspects of Water transport that have nothing to do with seafaring, such as river boats and ships on lakes. And then categories like Watercraft would theoretically need to be split between the two. --ghouston (talk) 21:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer seamanship instead of Seafaring. Generally I believe that seamanship qualify for separate category as a part of Category:Water transport. -- Geagea (talk) 19:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- I do not think that seamanship can replace Seafaring - it is a much narrower term (skill-oriented). Seamanship is now a category under Category:Water transport, which is fine. Now it should be time for Rudolph Buch to do the merging of categories as suggested. --Rsteen (talk) 09:11, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer seamanship instead of Seafaring. Generally I believe that seamanship qualify for separate category as a part of Category:Water transport. -- Geagea (talk) 19:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- I also think that that's a good idea. Otherwise it's an attempt subdivide Category:Water transport into "Seafaring" vs all the aspects of Water transport that have nothing to do with seafaring, such as river boats and ships on lakes. And then categories like Watercraft would theoretically need to be split between the two. --ghouston (talk) 21:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it would give us a simpler and more compact structure, which can only be a good thing. So Category:Water transport is okay with this user. --Rsteen (talk) 19:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- I´d assume that "Maritime culture" is more narrow than seafaring and would expect only content related to traditions and arts in that category. I think we should simply dissolve both categories - "maritime" as well as "seafaring" - and move all the subcats directly to "Category:Water transport. This category already has a twin at EN-Wikipedia and, judging by the content, there´s no real distinction between water transport, ship transport, sea faring, naval issues or maritime issues. --Rudolph Buch (talk) 15:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- So, how about using Maritime culture as a common category for things related to seafaring and naval items. It is good enough for en:Wikipedia, so why not for Commons? I wish to emphasize the importance of using similar descriptions across the project, which makes it much easier to connect via Wikidata. --Rsteen (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- "Maritime" as an adjective can be attached to anything related to the sea, such as maritime animals and maritime weather. Some of its subcategories don't belong in seafaring either, like maritime places and maritime buildings. It also has a subcategory "marine" which is nearly a synonym for maritime. I don't think adjectives like maritime and marine are good category names. --ghouston (talk) 04:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Deleted both Category:Maritime and Category:Seafaring. Content moved appropriately, sometimes to Category:Coasts and its sub-categories, sometimes to Category:Water transport and its subcategories, sometimes both. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Somehow redundant to Category:Schools in Brazil Rudolph Buch (talk) 18:43, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Delete These are school buildings with interesting architecture, but that's not a valid way to categorize images. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Done: per above. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:54, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Probably should be renamed to something like Category:Thai government images to check and probably get different parent categories accordingly. No more than half apper to be images of politicians of Thailand, though they do all seem to come from Thai government accounts on Flickr, etc.. Jmabel ! talk 00:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Done: No further community input to gain additional consensus from; sound recommendation. ~riley (talk) 23:02, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
This category merely creates confusion. All other Admiral ranks on Commons fall under a main category Admirals of Countryname. Having a category per rank of admiral is merely adding confusion. Plus what happens if they get promoted? I propose that this category be merged into Category:Admirals of India and then deleted Gbawden (talk) 12:37, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Support as per Gbawden. --Muzammil (talk) 17:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support as per Gbawden. Should also be done for "Category:Rear Admirals of India". —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 13:18, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
No opposition in years. Deleted. @Sarvatra: Please feel free to nominate Category:Rear Admirals of India for discussion if you see fit. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:21, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
At what age are we qualifying these as "young"? Should we also have "older" siblings in art? Mjrmtg (talk) 21:58, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. Seems like just "siblings" will do, without having to try to determine age. EChastain (talk) 19:50, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- Or, after looking at the category contents, just "Children in art". EChastain (talk) 16:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Mjrmtg and EChastain: It's a sub-category of "Siblings in art" and "Children in art". I'm prepared to leave it, but we could move to Category:Child siblings in art if something more specific is really necessary. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:49, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- Or, after looking at the category contents, just "Children in art". EChastain (talk) 16:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
No response. Category:Child siblings in art is clearer. Moved accordingly. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:18, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Duplicates Category:Public art in Sandwell Andy Mabbett (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: My difficulty with Category:Public art in Sandwell is that english is not my mother tongue
- 1. I am not shure what exactly the term "public art" means. I know art, and I guess that it means something like tha art which is shown where everybody can see it, but that's only guessing. As I often read scientific articles and books in English I guess my English is better than the one of many people who search for pictures here and therefore it is a very good idea to use simple expressions wherever possible.
- 2. I am not shure, if Sandwell means the same places which are included in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell - is it exactly the same or does it differ somewhat? If there is any difference I think it is a good idea to use "Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell" in the name of the category as the mother categories use this expression.
- --Kersti (talk) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: There is now at least one piece of art in Category:Art in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell that is not in the neighbourhood of Category:Sandwell, and so, doesn't belong in Category:Public art in Sandwell. Can we close discussion? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- No. West Bromwich is in Sandwell. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- See en:Public art for an explanation of the term. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: There is now at least one piece of art in Category:Art in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell that is not in the neighbourhood of Category:Sandwell, and so, doesn't belong in Category:Public art in Sandwell. Can we close discussion? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: West Bromwich is in the Category:Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell. Is it in Category:Sandwell, a neighbourhood of Category:Warley, West Midlands ? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:28, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Themightquill and Pigsonthewing: Category:Sandwell is a sub of Category:Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell, the organization of Category:Art in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell with Category:Public art in Sandwell under it is fine. The only question is do we want to maintain the parent with only one child, or do we delete the nom category for now and it can be recreated when files of art outside of Category:Sandwell gets identified. Josh (talk) 02:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- This assumes that Category:Sandwell being a sub of Category:Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell is correct. BTW, are we planning a party for this nomination's fifth birthday? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightquill and Pigsonthewing: Category:Sandwell is a sub of Category:Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell, the organization of Category:Art in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell with Category:Public art in Sandwell under it is fine. The only question is do we want to maintain the parent with only one child, or do we delete the nom category for now and it can be recreated when files of art outside of Category:Sandwell gets identified. Josh (talk) 02:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Therein lies the problem. Category:Sandwell is super ambigous, and should be renamed to make it clear what it's about, and the sub-categories should be either renamed to match, or renamed to match a broader category. - Themightyquill (talk) 17:08, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- As per Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/08/Category:Sandwell, Category:Sandwell has been moved to Category:Sandwell (suburb) and Category:Public art in Sandwell has been moved to Category:Public art in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell. Category:Art in the Metropolitan Borough of Sandwell could be subdivided not only by public art, but also by form of art (sculpture, relief, painting, mural, etc), so I'm inclined to keep it as is. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
No further discussion in over a year. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Move to Category:Dejanović noble family as per Dejanović noble family Zoupan (talk) 10:29, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I think that as the Dejanovićs were nobles , there's no problem if we consider their "noble family" as a House, a Dynasty. As they were despots, why are they less than the Lazarevićs or the Brankovićs (who were also despots)? (talk) 16:09, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- The Dejanović received the noble title of despot by the Serbian Emperor, while Lazar was the successor of Serbia after the death of the Emperor (as Autocrator of All Serbs, Prince of Serbia) and his son and successor Stefan had the title "Despot of the Kingdom of Rascia and Lord of Serbia". Đurađ Branković succeeded Stefan Lazarević.--Zoupan (talk) 22:32, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Zoupan and Mhmrodrigues: Rename to Category:Dejanović noble family. I am not sure if things have changed in the last several years, but now all other categories are named "Name noble family", so this one should match those. Josh (talk) 03:38, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support renaming to Category:Dejanović noble family per consistency. Sorabino (talk) 02:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Dejanović noble family. -- Themightyquill (talk) 18:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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"Famous..." is subjectve. "Named...", or "Individual..." would be better. Andy Mabbett (talk) 09:32, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- We should probably be discussing Category:Famous trees and decendnet categories, but I'm not sure how to tag a whole category tree. Andy Mabbett (talk) 09:34, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 | Category:Famous Quercus in Wales | Move to/Rename as | Category:Quercus in Wales by name | |
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 | "Famous" is a classic indeterminate subject. Something should be notable to meet inclusion criteria. What is notable but not famous? No real way for us to answer that so this category and in fact all 'famous' categories should go away. Notable organisms can be indexed 'by name' and that will do the job just fine. | |||
 | Josh (talk) 02:25, 9 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
- Famous/notable trees don't necessarily have names. Category:Symbolic oaks in Wales not only doesn't indicate a specific name, it also contains individual files. The same is true of other subcategories under Category:Famous trees. If we have a "by name" category, it shouldn't contain individual files. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:00, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Agreed. If a tree is indeed 'famous', 'notable', or such, it should have its own category (even if this may initially only have a single image). These categories can then be categorized under a 'by name' or other appropriate index, or evcen simply reside at the main category level, quite frankly. They do not need to be grouped under 'famous' or 'notable' category groups. Josh (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner, Auntof6, and Pigsonthewing: "Unsharp" doesn't mean "undeterminate". Natural, unbureaucratic concepts are often unsharp, but can be relevant. An another question is to find the best category name for such significant/famous/memorable/notable/individual trees, and possibly also their hierarchy. "Individual" is not the best word, it can be understood as covering also anonymous solitary trees. "Named trees"? In my country, there is a register of protected individual trees (and groups of trees) and most of them are not named, they are registered under descriptive designation e.g. "oak nearby the rectory" (which can be hardly considered as "names") and have some ID number in the register. The official term for such protected trees is "memorable trees", however this term is used as distinguishing from other significant trees which don't have this form of registration and protection. The word "famous" sounds too pompously to me but I'm not a native English speaker - maybe, "notable trees" can be more restrained? As regards officially registered or protected trees, we should use the word used officially for such form of registration in the specific country. --ŠJů (talk) 08:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ŠJů: Certainly if we were to group by some official designation, the name should indeed be aligned with such a scheme, but I don't think that is the case here, there is no indication that the content in question is specifically identified or registered by official agencies (or that they are not so). In fact, the content in this category has no particular rationale as to why they are considered 'famous', so merely renaming it to 'notable' is not a solution. Josh (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing, Auntof6, and ŠJů: Closed (no consensus to change) Josh (talk) 07:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
See de:Vulgo, which defines Vulgo name as the name of the farmhouse opposed to the surname of the inhabitants. As vulgo is a name of something, it is difficult to collect photos thereof. The semantic of the category seems to be Objects also known by vulgo names, which is difficult to see and to verify. I propose to add corresponding information to the description and delete this category completely. BTW, as this category is defined for Carinthia only, it is not wide enough for the general concept of vulgo names. Herzi Pinki (talk) 08:52, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Vulgo is the ablative (third case singular) of the Latin noun vulgus, vulgi (i.e. people) and means "by the common people". A VULGO NAME is a name that is used by the people, generally linked to farms and granges. Related to the state of Carinthia, vulgo names are the commonly used ones in the country. The surnames of the owners stand second to the vulgo names. That topic has a significant importance in Carinthia. Johann Jaritz (talk) 10:55, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Johann, I know, but I did not find a single photo of a vulgo name in that category. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 12:56, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
| Category:Vulgo names | Move to/Rename as | Category:Farmhouses in Austria by name | |
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| Category:Vulgo names in Carinthia | Move to/Rename as | Category:Farmhouses in Carinthia by name | |
| Category:Vulgo names in Salzburg (state) | Move to/Rename as | Category:Farmhouses in Salzburg (state) by name | |
| Category:Vulgo names in Styria | Move to/Rename as | Category:Farmhouses in Styria by name | |
| @Herzi Pinki and Johann Jaritz:
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I cannot support my arguments with such a nice box. IMHO a farmhouse is a farmhouse, some of them have names, some of them have vulgo names, some have names, but we don't know, and some might not even have names (just an address). Is it necessary, that the vulgo name is mentioned in the description? So in many cases evidence is difficult. As long as all farmhouses also are kept in the geographical Category:Farmhouses in Austria and subcats, I can live with a parallel 'by name' meta cat. But I will not spend any effort to maintain it. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 07:53, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Just stumbled over this discussion and I agree that this category and its subcategories don't make sense. Please delete. --Reinhard Müller (talk) 22:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Herzi Pinki and Reinhard Müller: I would be fine with simply deleting and upmerging to the geographic categories for the farmhouses currently depicted in the Vulgo names tree, as opposed to the rename scheme above, would you both be okay with that so we can close this? Josh (talk) 07:55, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm fine with deleting this category along with its subcats. thanks for caring. best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 08:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- I second that - both the agreement and the thank :-) --Reinhard Müller (talk) 08:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm fine with deleting this category along with its subcats. thanks for caring. best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 08:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Herzi Pinki and Reinhard Müller: I would be fine with simply deleting and upmerging to the geographic categories for the farmhouses currently depicted in the Vulgo names tree, as opposed to the rename scheme above, would you both be okay with that so we can close this? Josh (talk) 07:55, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
@Herzi Pinki and Reinhard Müller: Closed (upmerge Vulgo categories to farmhouse parents) Josh (talk) 21:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Moved from User talk:FDMS4 Hello, the locomotives class 1216 of ÖBB are not hired by ČD, these locomotives are only used in the Czech territory by ČD. Some 1216s of ÖBB have blue ČD livery, but it's only a livery. If you want to add Category:Electric locomotives of the Czech Republic to the 1216 in blue livery, you have to add the category also to a lot of other locomotives, e.g. Category:DBAG Class 189, Category:ZSSK Class 350, Category:PKP class ET22, Category:ÖBB 1216, Category:RTS 1216, Category:PKP class EU44, Category:Railpool class 186, Category:ALEX Class 223 etc., because all these locomotives are operated in the Czech Republic. --Cmelak770 (talk) 07:24, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Cmelak770, thanks for starting a discussion about this. We have a separate ČD Railjet locomotives category, which currently only contains media files of EuroSprinter locomotives, but might include others in the future (this might have to be reverted then). The reason I think ČD has rented the EuroSprinters is this sentence in w:de:Railjet#Geschichte (underlining supplementary): Nachdem die ČD keine geeigneten Zugfahrzeuge rechtzeitig auftreiben konnte, bestehen die Garnituren aus angemieteten ÖBB Taurus-3-Lokomotiven […]. FDMS 4 10:27, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- The 1216 are not hired to ČD, it's the same situation like in the case of 380 ČD used by ÖBB in Austria. It's not normal leasing, because ČD pays for it in kilometers travelled by ČD's vehicles in Austria. I think, that the 1216 ÖBB in the ČD Livery should be at Category:ÖBB 1216 ČD Railjet livery (or something like that) and this category should be in these categories: Category:ÖBB 1216 Railjet and Category:ČD Railjet. --Cmelak770 (talk) 12:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
In my opinion, the ČD Railjet is a Czech passenger train, and therefore its locomotives are automatically Czech too, no matter what financial circumstances they are operated in. I would agree to creating ÖBB 1216 in ČD Railjet livery, but it should be a subcategory of this one (and therefore also Category:Electric locomotives of the Czech Republic). FDMS 4 12:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Ping other users who edited Railjet categories: ŠJů, Darkweasel94
Yes, ČD Railjet is a Czech passenger train, but it's hauled by an Austrian locomotive in various liveries (ÖBB, ČD, Kapsch etc.). But the locomotives Class 1216 are not Czech locomotives. Eg. there [6] you can see, that it's an Austrian locomotive, because there is A-ÖBB 91 81 1216 235-2. --Cmelak770 (talk) 13:15, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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- In my honest opinion, I would prefer not changing anything! If the category Category:CD Railjet locomotives was changed, then the category ÖBB railjet locomotives would also have to be changed, because sometimes a red ÖBB Taurus hauls an Austrian railjet. Cmelak770: Your suggestion (having a link Category:ÖBB 1216 Railjet -> Category:ÖBB 1216 ČD Railjet livery) does not make any sense, because Category:ÖBB 1216 Railjet is a subcategory of Category:ÖBB Railjet locomotives, but these ÖBB 1216 in ČD livery normally do not haul ÖBB Railjets!
- Furthermore, you mentioned, that there is A-ÖBB 9181 1216 235-2 on the loco, so it must be an Austrian locomotive. But ÖBB has leased many ÖBB 1116 locomotives to Rail Cargo Hungaria, and all these locos are marked with A-ÖBB 9181 (e.g. 1116 049-8).
- So as I said before, in my eyes the current situation is fine. NÖLB Mh (talk) 16:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
IMHO, a primary categorization of vehicles should be rather by real operator than by owner. However, hired vehicles can be categorize under both, the operator as well s the owner. I suppose the operator is the company which is marked on the vehicle as the operator and whose brand the vehicle is operated under. And the operator define the real home country of the vehicle. A see no reason to categorize vehicles under leasing companies etc. If the vehicle is operated under two brands together, we can use combined categories like Category:Rolling stock of ČD as trains of GW Train Regio.
A second thing is the registration. E.g. RegioJet operates coaches which remain registered in Austria. When we categorize vehicles by class, we should base on the registration, but generally, we should prefer real home country of the vehicle and its operator as the main categorization criterion. --ŠJů (talk) 12:53, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
@Cmelak770, FDMS4, Darkweasel94, NÖLB Mh, and ŠJů: I'm having trouble understanding this discussion. Any chance you've found consensus over the past 6 years? -- Themightyquill (talk) 07:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- The problem is that some locos class 1216 of ÖBB (owned by ÖBB, registered in Austria etc.) in ČD livery. It's only a livery, the locos are not owned/hired by ČD. That's why the locos can't be categorized under ČD locos. --Cmelak770 (talk) 08:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Cmelak770 and Themightyquill: Could this be solved by a hatnote on the category detailing the grounds for inclusion in the category, or does this require a category rename/merge/delete to fix? Josh (talk) 07:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Cmelak770@Joshbaumgartner@ŠJů: six years old CFD. I suggest to close this CFD as no consensus to change anything. If someone is able to propose something concrete towards this very specific Czech Republic-related topic, then I encourage to open new CFD, and to ask opinions also at enwiki en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Czech Republic Estopedist1 (talk) 20:53, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Cmelak770 and Themightyquill: Could this be solved by a hatnote on the category detailing the grounds for inclusion in the category, or does this require a category rename/merge/delete to fix? Josh (talk) 07:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
@Estopedist1: Currently, the content seems to be moved into Category:ÖBB 1216 Railjet operated by ČD, i.e. the category Category:ČD Railjet locomotives should be redirected there (or kept as it is, for possible future really ČD Railjet locmotives). Maybe, Category:ÖBB 1216 Railjet operated by ČD should be renamed to Category:ÖBB 1216 Railjet in ČD livery to be more correct. IMHO it should remain to be categorized also under ČD locomotives, as it declares its ČD identity through the livery. --ŠJů (talk) 21:07, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
@FDMS4, ŠJů, Darkweasel94, Estopedist1, Cmelak770, Themightyquill, and NÖLB Mh: I'm inclined to close this ancient discussion as some combination of "stale" and "worked out by other means". A hatnote somewhere may be in order, but I think that's about it. Given how long this has been open, I'll give a week for anyone to raise objections before I close it. - Jmabel ! talk 23:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Closing as stale and apparently partially addressed by other means. - Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)