Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pinterest Logo.svg

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File:Pinterest Logo.svg

File needs discussion. First, the source is broken. Second, the uploader is not the author, nor has the author granted permission to release this file under ~~Creative Commons license~~ Public Domain. Thus, it is possible copyright violation. (please refer this discussion User_talk:Jameslwoodward/Archive15#Typeface) Canopus Grandiflora 23:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I have added a link to an archive copy of the web page. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 23:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't think that website is or was affiliated with Pinterest. But it can be because the CSS is not linked (is it for me, or nobody can see CSS elements on the webpage?) We need to know terms and conditions under which the "Pinterest team" provided the logo. It sounds odd to know that the company gave itself the logo to share.--Canopus Grandiflora 23:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this site was created by the logo design team around the time the logo was redesigned. That's impertinent anyway because to my knowledge it was never provided under a CC license. Help:SVG#Copyright has more details, but really no strong guidance. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 00:06, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. I saw it, and I was about to update it... Well, now that we don't know for sure if that website was really affiliated with Pinterest or was a fansite, and fonts in SVG format can be copyrighted. Only the fonts in lossy/non-scalable format is not copyrighted in the US.-Canopus Grandiflora 00:16, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Logo is below COM:TOO. Pinterest is created in the U.S., and there are actually logos which are more complex than this but denied copyright protection by the U.S. Copyright Office. And I don't think simple logos requires a source, I am going to start a discussion about this if I can. --★ Poké⁹⁵ 03:01, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion here is about the font used for the logo. Since the uploader is not the author, the source can be copyrighted.--Canopus Grandiflora 03:07, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am also talking about the font when I commented here, and the font used here is not complex in the U.S. I know that the uploader is not the author, and that's irrelevant here. I am not sure what do you meant by "the source can be copyrighted". ★ Poké⁹⁵ 03:17, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SVG source code (which I don't know why I forgot to mention) can be copyrighted. But, considering simple fonts, Helvetica is a simple font, yet it is copyrighted. It is other thing that it turns 60 this year. (And I wonder if Helvetica will enter public domain after a decade) but looking at 'P', 'e', 's' and 't', is is creative enough to be copyrighted.--Canopus Grandiflora 03:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how this font is Helvetica, it is far from Helvetica. Also, the P, e, s, and t are not creative enough in the U.S., see for example File:NY Arrows logo.png, which has complex letters but the copyright office denied copyright protection for the logo. And seeing the source website on Internet Archive, there is no SVG version available, so probably the source code was made by the uploaders. ★ Poké⁹⁵ 03:48, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I did not say this logo uses Helvetica font. I am saying Helvetica is a simple font yet it is copyrighted. Considering the creativity in those characters, TOO is challenged. But the author parameter contains those names who did not upload/ modify the file. Besides, the uploader did not comment that xe created the SVG file.--Canopus Grandiflora 03:56, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, your arguments regarding TOO doesn't make sense to me. I repeatedly said that there are logos which are more complex than this one, but denied copyright protection by the copyright office. See COM:TOO#United States. Correcting myself, Cdabb7 is the original uploader from enwiki. I don't think that there is enough doubt that Cdabb7 is the author of the SVG code. Do we have proof that they are not the author of the code? And seeing the source code of the SVG file, it seems to be made by Inkscape, and I don't see any originality there. ★ Poké⁹⁵ 04:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Logo is not the topic of discussion. The typeface is. If the original uploader is the author of this file, that means we can keep this file.--Canopus Grandiflora 04:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Yann (talk) 19:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]