Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aurora moored to the ice.jpg

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It says that this comes from a publication from London from 1915 and that the photographer is w:Frank Hurley. As the first publication was in the UK, the source country is the UK (despite the photographer being an Australian), and the copyright term to photos expires 70 years after the death of the photographer in the UK. The photographer hasn't been dead for 70 years yet. Stefan4 (talk) 20:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept:. I can't understand why this picture has no enough grants, while the rest of the Hurley production is on Commons, mainly under license {{PD-Australia}} ?. Probably when I uloaded, I did not select the correct permission, but in my opinion, this one has exactly the same circumstances as the rest, even if I get from a newspapers instead of any other source. What's the problem if I change the license now? Thanks. --amador (talk) 22:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
{{PD-Australia}} can only be used for photos which were first published in Australia. It seems that this was first published in the United Kingdom, so UK rules are used instead. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Who knows where was first ?. Who will claim ? the author ?, the newspaper ? No one when the rest of production of the photographer is free. In my opinion the interest to document the article(s) is more important than precission regarding where was published first. --amador (talk) 05:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See COM:EI#Source. There is currently no evidence that it was published in Australia before it was published in the United Kingdom, and the British publication wasn't a very long time after the photo was taken. The British book was additionally written by someone who travelled on the ship's expedition to Antarctica, and people who were travelling on the ship may have had access to lots of previously unpublished photos. It is therefore not unlikely that the British publication was the first one. If you claim that the country of first publication is Australia, then you will have to show that it was first published in Australia by adding an earlier Australian publication in the source field. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: (c) vio Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 00:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]