Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration/2009

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The Sound and the Fury

I suppose we have to have a candidate bt I don't know why I didn't do this earlier. The article on this book is stunningly not up to par. A collaboration would be great help, because unlike many books sourced secondary opinions and information is very easy to find for this, its so major. That makes all the more unacceptable that such an article, on what may be considered Faulkner's greatest novel, a masterpiece of complexity, both in writing and in characters, is so inadequate. As it is for one I think the plot summary is horribly poor, and you know I don't really agree that there should be, "Cast listings" for these kinds of novels, it seems rather insulting and ineloquent, because it'll always be in adequate, do a disservice by not fully doing the characters justice. I would like to head up a team to add a great deal more on the article. Putting a section on the impact, then and now, as well as improving the plot, and putting in a section on the critical interpretations of the novel. Unlike my last supported nomination I can support this one. You see I have actually read this one more thoroughly and written about it before. I'd only read about the Tin Drum, as well as excerpts so I couldn't really write more thoroughly. But The Sound and the Fury is a much different story. Every collaboration needs some dedicated to drive it, when they don't it ends up failing, so I think moving on tho this article next would be a good idea and of the uptmost importance.--Robert Waalk (talk) 11:54, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Pretty much al my thoughts are up above in its nomination.--Robert Waalk (talk) 11:54, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Seems like you know the book, so no reason why you shouldn't update, even if it isn't the current Collaboration. Also, check out The Oregon Files - they're good books, and the article is - like The Sound and the Fury - extremely under-par. Alan16 (talk) 12:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if TSF is still the WikiProject Novels Collaboration of the Month, but I'd like to help where I can. Noted the "Collaboration" comment at the Talk page. -- LaNaranja (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The Oregon Files

The Oregon Files are a group of novels written by author Clive Cussler and co-author Craig Dirgo and later co-author Jack Du Brul.

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The Tin Drum

This is perhaps the most important novel published in Germany since Hesse's The Glass Bead Game in the 1940s. As it is there is almost nothing, nothing to its article. Its been completely ignored. It, by itself, is the major reason Gunter Grass won the Nobel in 1999.--Robert Waalk (talk) 03:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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Shantaram (novel)

Noticed Shantaram is up for collaborative improvement and want to support it. At 936 pages it deserves more layers in the plot with themes, subplots and characters sections at least. Julia Rossi (talk) 01:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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The Wonderful Wizard of Oz

Classic children's novel that is a former Featured Article. It was demoted in 2005, with the note that it could easily return to FA status if specific tasks were completed. However little effort seems to have been made to complete these and the article has fallen further into disrepair. There is a specific list of tasks to complete on the talk page, although other contributions would of course be welcome as well. S Luke 23:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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Flowers for Algernon

The 1966 science fiction novel (and play) by Daniel Keyes, and one that has been used in school curricula since I was in school. The novelette (of which the 1966 work is an expanded version) won a Hugo award for Best Short Fiction in 1960. --EncycloPetey 20:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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• Right now the article is primarily a bulleted list of references to the work found in outside sources. It's pretty sad. --EncycloPetey 20:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
• This is a very good novel, a classic work of science fiction and very notable. Deserves a much better written article. This could reach FA status with some work.--Robert Waalk (talk) 21:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
• School curricula where? Not here anyway. I consider this a very underrated novel. --MacRusgail 13:00, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
• These comments and the nomination are more than a little out of date. I rewrote this article entirely in May 2008 (and am more than a little upset by the comment made in September about how badly it is written). The article needs more sources then rewriting, not rewriting based on the current sources. These sources have been recommended, but I can't get hold of them:

Clareson, Thomas D. Understanding Contemporary American Science Fiction: The Formative Period (1926-1970). Columbia, S.C. University of South Carolina, 1992.

Foerstel, Herbert N. Banned in the U.S.A.: A Reference Guide to Book Censorship in Schools and Public Libraries. Westport, Conn. Praeger, 2002.

Kelleghan, Fiona. Classics of Science Fiction and Fantasy Literature. Pasadena, Calif. Salem Press, 2002.

The Monomyth in Daniel Keyes's Flowers for Algernon: Keyes, Campbell, and Plato By: Palumbo, Donald; Journal of the Fantastic in the Arts, 2004 Winter; 14 (4 [56]): 427-46. (journal article)

Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes By: Small, Robert, Jr.. pp. 249-55 IN: Karolides, Nicholas J. (ed.); Burress, Lee (ed.); Kean, John M. (ed.); Censored Books: Critical Viewpoints. Metuchen, NJ: Scarecrow; 1993. xxvi, 498 pp. (book article)

More Flowers for Algernon By: Williams, Paul; New York Review of Science Fiction, 1989 Apr; 8: 5-6. (journal article)

I'd love to see this article improve, but getting holding of more sources is the first step towards that. Best of luck. GDallimore (Talk) 10:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)