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(Initiated 70 days ago on 22 September 2024) There are a bunch of these on this day's log; I'll only list the one but help closing 'em all would be appreciated :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 78 days ago on 15 September 2024) – Closed by involved editor under unclear consensus, reopened by a likely sockpuppet account. Discussion has died down and I want an uninvolved closer to get this over and done with. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 23:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 77 days ago on 15 September 2024)Clear consensus to move, just need an experienced editor to close the discussion and perform the move. Some1 (talk) 22:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Doing... The consensus is obvious, I just need to be fully awake when I attempt to implement it or I'll probably mess something up. —Compassionate727(T·C)19:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 147 days ago on 8 July 2024) – Editors would feel more comfortable if an uninvolved closer provided a clear statement about whether a consensus to WP:SPLIT exists, and (if so) whether to split this list into two or three lists. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 115 days ago on 8 August 2024) - This has been open and the discussion is at a standstill. While the proposer requested to keep it open, I don't think that it's proper. Another can be opened at another time, but at this point, if someone wouldn't mind closing it, I think that would be helpful to move on. Andre🚐01:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 86 days ago on 6 September 2024) Discussion has stopped. Not a snow close so needs the kind support of an independent closer please. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi Nemov. I am seeing activity since your request was posted (most recently on October 6, 2024), and thus I expect that allowing the RFC to run the full 30 days will produce a better consensus. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 176 days ago on 8 June 2024) Since much of the discussion centers on the title of the article rather than its content, the closer should also take into account the requested move immediately below on the talk page. Smyth (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
If the closer finds "no consensus", I have proposed this route in which a discussion on merger and RM can happen simultaneously to give clearer consensus.VR(Please ping on reply)20:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
That's an impossible discussion to close because nobody either supported or opposed the business on the table. The only respondent proposed his own alternate proposal which the nominator opposed. Therefore, it should simply be relisted again. Andre🚐07:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Anyone want a closer's barnstar? (okay but seriously maybe we should just panel close this one, if only to prevent any further disputes.) --Licks-rocks (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 60 days ago on 3 October 2024)
Active for over a week and the draft is submitted, would be nice if we can close. Crete44 (talk) 14:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 61 days ago on 1 October 2024) RM #8, 257 comments, 54 people in discussion. Discussion has mostly died down, and all arguments have probably been stated at least once. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 50 days ago on 12 October 2024) - Discussion about the upcoming WP:AELECT. Consensus should be not a hard evaluation, it's just time sensitive as the discussion phase begins by 21 October. Soni (talk) 03:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 75 days ago on 17 September 2024)
A RFC on a WP:BLP that is winding down and could use a close from an experienced closer. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 18:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 45 days ago on 17 October 2024) There's a number of proposals made as part of the discussion that require closing as a number of editors have expressed a desire that the whole discussion be closed. Can a admin please close all proposals and then the whole discussion itself. TarnishedPathtalk03:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 107 days ago on 17 August 2024)
Requesting immediate procedural close for Talk:Philippe Pétain#Rfc for Lede Image of Philippe Pétain, because it is blocked on a Wikipedia policy with legal implications that no one at the Rfc is qualified to comment on, namely U.S. copyright law about an image. At a minimum, it will require action at Commons about whether to delete an image, and likely they will have to consult Wikimedia legal for an interpretation in order to resolve the issue. Under current circumstances, it is a waste of editor time to leave the Rfc open, and is impossible to reliably evaluate by a closer, and therefore should be procedurally closed without assessment, the sooner the better. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
It's not appropriate to make an immediate procedural close in those circumstances. Wikipedians routinely make decisions about copyright, even those Wikipedians who aren't US attorneys. This is not a high-drama situation. However I'm starting to wonder if the RFC nominator might be on a crusade about our lede images for prominent WW2 figures, and if so, whether they might benefit from a sysop's advice and guidance about overusing our RFC process.—S MarshallT/C09:16, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, sorry. The outcome of the Commons DR and subsequent discussions have raised more difficult questions than they answered that I'm struggling a bit to sort through. I've requested input at WP:DfD; depending on the feedback I receive, I may settle on an outcome or punt the whole thing to someone more experienced with images. —Compassionate727(T·C)20:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
If Commons has decided to keep the image I think we're good on this and this discussion can be closed. This came up after the RFC was created the original topic seems to be simple. Nemov (talk) 14:46, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Commons has a lot of problems, especially with its... lax attitude toward copyright. I don't think we can safely consider Commons' decision as authoritative.In any case, I have decided to vote here, so I won't be closing this. —Compassionate727(T·C)11:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 88 days ago on 5 September 2024)
An RfC about adding a short summary to a section. Last addition/comment was 8 October. All those involved with previous discussion have been notified of RfC (although not all have responded).--Louis P. Boog (talk) 16:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 73 days ago on 19 September 2024) - Discussion has kind of stabilized, with 68 people giving over 256 comments. AwesomeAasim21:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 66 days ago on 27 September 2024) The discussion has passed the seven-day mark. I kindly request an uninvolved editor to review and close it at their earliest convenience. Thank you! Btspurplegalaxy💬🖊️06:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 70 days ago on 22 September 2024) Discussion has mostly stabilized, with one vote today and the previous vote two weeks ago. Feels like a pretty clear consensus but will obviously have a significant impact. Sincerely, Dilettante17:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 45 days ago on 17 October 2024) Follow-up to recent closed RM (one of many over the years). Discussion has died down. A close on the moratorium-issue would be good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 66 days ago on 26 September 2024)
An RfC about changing the lede picture for Edward Heath. There has been no activity on the RfC in 17 days, and the consensus isn't immediately clear about the changing of the infobox picture. --Brocade River Poems (She/They)23:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 186 days ago on 30 May 2024) Contentious merge discussion requiring uninvolved closer. Restoring this here after this close was declined by AirshipJungleman29 because there were no new comments for two months indicate that participants have already assessed that there is no consensus and moved on.. Per WP:MERGECLOSE, a contested merge discussion cannot be closed by involved participants. In my experience merge discussions often linger until an editor closes them and it's not unusual for very old merge discussions/uncontested merge proposals to be closed and implemented or not as the case may be. See my discussion with AJ29. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
No, that's obvious enough that it doesn't need a formal close. You can go ahead and update WP:RSP with a pointer to that discussion. It's best not to edit archived material where that's avoidable.—S MarshallT/C11:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 73 days ago on 20 September 2024) - I previously closed this, but was sent a talk page message asking to re-open it (which vaguely threatened WP:MRV, but I hadn't even noticed at the moment to be honest, and it wouldn't have affected my decision), I decided on the merits of the editor's argument to go ahead and re-open it, a decision I will take with much more consideration in the future as until now, I hadn't realized how disruptive that could potentially be. I just learned that the RM is still open and needs a close, but I am not certain if it is proper for me to close it again as it was already closed once by me, just hoping someone here can take a look or let me know if it's proper for me to close it. Thanks! ASUKITE20:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 67 days ago on 25 September 2024)
Last addition/comment was a week and a half ago (October 4th). As far as I can tell all those involved with previous discussion have responded. Relm (talk) 10:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 92 days ago on 1 September 2024) Discussion has become inactive and I'd like a third party opinion of the concensus. Adriazeri (talk) 22:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 61 days ago on 2 October 2024)
Discussion has slowed after 30 days; needs to be closed by an uninvolved editor please. Muzilon (talk) 21:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
I believe this discussion is too stale, especially given how half of voters picked "wait." I think that if somebody wants to merge this article, they should feel free to boldly undertake it, or if they'd rather clarify things, start a fresh discussion on the talk page of one of the proposed parents. I'll leave this open in case another closer feels differently, though. —Compassionate727(T·C)14:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 188 days ago on 28 May 2024) Latest comment: 3 days ago, 79 comments, 37 people in discussion. Closing statement may be helpful for future discussions. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to note that this is taking slightly longer than expected, but it is at the top of my priority and will be completed soon. — Frostly (talk) 05:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi Voorts and Soni, thanks for the pings! I've unfortunately been in the hospital for the past week but am now feeling better. I apologize for the long delay in putting out the close and appreciate your messages! Best, — Frostly (talk) 03:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I can't touch that cos I !voted, but although that was a productive and thought-provoking discussion, it's not a discussion that has an actionable outcome. I personally feel it can lie in the archives unclosed.—S MarshallT/C11:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
This isn't a priority given S Marshall's input, but I'll save it for offline reading. If I have time while I'm in Cuba next week, I'll take a look at it and see if I can't summarize some of the broader points and ideas potentially worth pursuing. —Compassionate727(T·C)23:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, I haven’t accomplished anything on this. I couldn’t find a way to save a readable copy of the discussion to my iPad, and the government of Cuba has disabled the Internet nationwide to suppress news of the ongoing blackout. —Compassionate727(T·C)22:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the notes @Gråbergs Gråa Sång, @Super Goku V, @Compassionate727, and I appreciate your input @S Marshall! Sorry for not getting to this earlier; I've had some unexpected personal commitments that have taken up most of my bandwidth. Given that it looks like this would be left best as an unclosed discussion, I'll mark this request as resolved for now ({{not done}}). Frostly (talk) 03:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
@Frostly and Compassionate727: Personally, I think it would be useful to try to discern some sort of conclusion from it, if only to provide editors some level of guidance as to how to respond to future notifications in that form.
I’ve marked it for not done for now, to prevent it being auto archived before this comment can be read, but if you’re confident closing it won’t be useful I won’t object to remarking it as done. BilledMammal (talk) 04:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 177 days ago on 7 June 2024) discussion effectively ceased on 19 June 2024 with arguably enough difference of opinion to require an uninvoved close. Thanks! Draken Bowser (talk) 09:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 39 days ago on 23 October 2024) No further activity beyond the first two days this discussion was open. Alternative page move titles were proposed by User:Pi.1415926535, but no real consensus has been reached either way. Discussion was relisted after the first week to the relevant WP:PROJECTS, but this has failed to result in any further activity. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 06:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 36 days ago on 26 October 2024) Request an admin or very confident closer sorts this out. Controversial subject, and although consensus may be found, it is also necessary to close an out of process AfD now started [[2]] that was started to confirm the merge discussion. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
It's a messy situation, but I argue that the most logical thing to do now is treat this as a deletion discussion, to be evaluated at AfD (ignoring the filer's framing as a merge discussion). — xDanielxT/C\R15:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 17 days ago on 14 November 2024) Anyone up for a barnstar? This one's long, difficult, and new. If no-one wants to close it, that's fine. However, it's clearly not reaching the super-consensus required. It should probably be closed so that we can stop wasting editor time and/or apply ourselves to proposals that have a better chance of passing. Sincerely, Dilettante01:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
No, nobody's going to SNOW close a discussion of that nature with that much participation when it's only been open a few hours. It may be "wasting editor time" but there's a darkening mood in the community about this and it's best that we allow a pressure valve: a place for editors to gather and speak their minds.—S MarshallT/C08:10, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I responded to the RfC, so obviously this is not an uninvolved opinion, but I don't think it would be a bad idea to snow-close the RfC component of this, even though it hasn't been open long. The RfC was thrown together quickly because of a perceived need for urgency; there were even discussions early on about how the normal RFC week would be too long and we'd have to close it early. The discussions that are going on can continue even if we shut down the "vote" part of it. -- asilvering (talk) 18:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I believe I'm also too involved to close this, but I agree that closing the survey and leaving the accompanying discussions open makes sense. —Compassionate727(T·C)22:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 34 days ago on 28 October 2024) Discussion has slowed for the last week. I think the consensus is pretty clear, but I'm involved. – Joe (talk) 17:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 73 days ago on 19 September 2024) Legobot removed the RFC template on 20/10/2024. Discussoin has slowed. Can we please have a independent close. TarnishedPathtalk23:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Doing... I've read the whole discussion, but this one is complex enough that I need to digest it and reread it later now that I have a clear framing of all the issues in my mind. Ideally, I'll close this sometime this week. —Compassionate727(T·C)20:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm still working on this, and I apologize for the delay. Because of my health problems, I only occasionally have days where I am fit to take on complex stuff like closures, and this particular one is testing me. I do have an outline of my findings in a document, but need to flesh it out and proof it against the discussion. I could finish this as soon as tomorrow, depending on how things go, but I can't promise anything. —Compassionate727(T·C)19:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
I fear I gave the wrong impression. My health is in no jeopardy whatsoever, I just have intractable problems with fatigue and focus that frequently keep me from doing the things I want and intend. I appreciate your concern, though. —Compassionate727(T·C)19:37, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 44 days ago on 18 October 2024) Expired today, last comment was three weeks ago. The consensus on this RfC appears to lean one way among the participants, but because of the high-profile and contentious nature of the change under discussion, I think an uninvolved editor should close. Thesixthstaff (talk) 19:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 101 days ago on 22 August 2024) last vote was six weeks ago and the debate has long stabilised, outcome looks quite clear. --NAADAAN (talk) 20:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
{{Done}} by Bobby Cohn. Closure requests for RMs don't need to be posted here until it has been eight or nine days since they were opened/last relisted, since page movers generally do a pretty good job of closing simple RMs at seven days. —Compassionate727(T·C)21:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Coming up on two months since the last comment. Consensus seems pretty clear, but would like an uninvolved party to look it over. Seasider53 (talk) 23:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 28 days ago on 3 November 2024) The amount of no !votes relative to yes !votes coupled with the several comments arguing it's premature suggests this should probably be SNOW closed. Sincerely, Dilettante16:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
(Initiated 31 days ago on 31 October 2024) Discussion only occurred on the day of proposal, and since then no further argument has been made. I don't think this discussion is going anywhere, so a close may be in order here. WolverineX-eye(talk to me)07:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm reluctant to close this so soon. Merge proposals often drag on for months, and sometimes will receive comments from new participants only everything couple weeks. I think it's too early to say whether a consensus will emerge. —Compassionate727(T·C)14:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
@Compassionate727: OK, so what are you suggesting? Will the discussion remain open if no further comments are received in, say, two weeks? I also doubt that merge discussions take months to conclude. I think that such discussions should take no more than 20 days, unless it's of course, a very contentious topic, which is not the case here. Taken that you've shown interest in this request, you should be able to tell that no form of consensus has taken place, so I think you can let it sit for a while to see if additional comments come in before inevitably closing it. I mean, there is no use in continuing a discussion that hasn't progressed in weeks. WolverineX-eye(talk to me)15:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
@Wolverine X-eye, I don't think thats what they are saying. Like RfC's, any proposals should be opened for more than 7 days. This one has only been open for 4 days. This doesn't give enough time to get enough WP:CONSENSUS on the merge, even if everyone agreed to it. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥21:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
This isn't a priority, given all the much older discussions here. I'll get to this eventually, or maybe someone else before me. In the meantime, please be patient. —Compassionate727(T·C)13:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
— Chris Woodrich (talk)...
Relisted since discussion is needed. Cremastra — talk — c 20:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Note: discussion has been archived. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)