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[edit]Moveable holidays
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 1#Moveable_holidays. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:54, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Moveable holidays
- Propose merging Category:Moveable Christian observances to Category:Christian festivals and holy days
- Propose merging Category:Movable January observances to Category:January observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable February observances to Category:February observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable March observances to Category:March observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable April observances to Category:April observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable May observances to Category:May observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable June observances to Category:June observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable July observances to Category:July observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable August observances to Category:August observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable September observances to Category:September observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable October observances to Category:October observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable November observances to Category:November observances
- Propose merging Category:Movable December observances to Category:December observances
- Nominator's rationale: delete/merge, "moveable" is just a POV. A holiday may be moveable on the calendar and fixed as a weekday, or fixed on the calendar and moveable as a weekday, or moveable on the Gregorian calendar and fixed on another calendar, or moveable on another calendar and fixed on the Gregorian calendar. With a neutral view, every observance is moveable and fixed. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. The term "moveable holiday" has a long history of use (over 150 years, at least) to mean a holiday which occurs on a different date from year to year according to the Gregorian calendar. There is no ambiguity of the sort that you suggest. I would, however, suggest renaming the by-month categories to match the spelling of the parent categories. Grutness...wha? 23:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- But is the movableness a defining characteristic of the observance? Bearcat (talk) 23:22, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Not always, but frequently, yes. Grutness...wha? 00:48, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- The definingness is for example that it is always on a Monday, but we already have Category:Monday observances for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:01, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- Not always, but frequently, yes. Grutness...wha? 00:48, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- But is the movableness a defining characteristic of the observance? Bearcat (talk) 23:22, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Mohsen.a
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:14, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate single-user category. —swpbT go beyond 20:58, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Music video networks
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:14, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Music video networks to Category:Music television channels
- Nominator's rationale: No significant difference between music television and music videos. All music TV channels use music videos. Rathfelder (talk) 16:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support, although the nominator's rationale isn't quite the right reason why. "Music television" doesn't necessarily only use music videos, as it can also air live concerts and interviews and awards ceremonies and music-related films and reality shows related to music culture (e.g. Making the Band) but not comprising videos per se, and "music videos" can be distributed on other platforms besides television (e.g. Vimeo or YouTube). Rather, the real issue here is the distinction, entirely meaningless in this context, between networks and channels. These are unnecessary parallel categories for the same thing, Rathfelder's entirely right about that, but he was just wrong about the reason why that's true. Bearcat (talk) 21:36, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Dhudiya films
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:12, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: No indication of growth potential for the cat; parent organization is a redlink. —swpbT go beyond 15:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Neighbourhoods of Wola etc
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- The result of the discussion was: relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 February 1#Category:Neighbourhoods_of_Wola_etc. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: to keep the order. every part of the city is categorized using Category:/Borough/ and Category:Neighbourhoods of Warsaw Andrei (talk) 14:07, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Combined two similar items. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment both are empty. Have they been emptied out of process? Peterkingiron (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Peterkingiron: you're right, the articles have been moved to Category:Neighbourhoods of Warsaw. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:11, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Andrew J.Kurbiko: please move the articles back to the original category and wait for an admin to close this discussion and move the articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:11, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Thai male kickboxers
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Not quite sure about the best course of action, but as it stands Category:Thai male kickboxers is wholly redundant to Category:Thai Muay Thai practitioners. As the main Muay Thai category tree isn't organised as a subcat of kickboxing, I understand that the kickboxing tree is supposed to be used in the narrow sense, i.e. modern forms explicitly referred to as "kickboxing" and not including traditional forms such as Muay Thai. As such, all the articles currently in Category:Thai male kickboxers would appear to be miscategorised. The Muay Thai practitioners category isn't currently subcategorised by gender, but if needed, it'd probably be better to diffuse Category:Thai male kickboxers into a new Category:Thai male Muay Thai practitioners subcat rather than renaming this one, which is less complete.
(Also related is Category:Thai female kickboxers, but it only has two members and could be manually dealt with once consensus is established for this one.)Paul_012 (talk) 06:19, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment (as category creator). I created Category:Thai male kickboxers & Category:Thai female kickboxers solely to split Category:Thai kickboxers by gender in a gender-divided sport. I have no knowledge of the relationship between kickboxing and Muay Thai in Muay Thailand, so I have no view on the proposed change, so long as the gender split is retained.
If @Paul_012 also intends to move the contents of Category:Thai female kickboxers in the same fashion, it should also be tagged and listed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:51, 22 January 2018 (UTC)- Tagged. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:16, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:Holland & Holland Magnum rifle cartridges
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:11, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: to encompass other Holland & Holland cartridges such as .500/450 Nitro Express, .500/465 Nitro Express and .700 Nitro Express. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 05:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- I created the category and wholly concur. Robert Greer (talk) 22:16, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
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Category:The Eighth (United States)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only one article (the key article), and no sign that it's ever going to be expandable. Grutness...wha? 02:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete -- I think the article has enough categories not to need upmerging. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:34, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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