Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zygii
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. Nomination withdrawn. utcursch | talk 12:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be a peace of original research (if not a hoax) by anon: unsourced and unsubstantiated. Tried searching for "Strabo" "Zygii" in google, google books, and yandex with zero results. --Ghirla -трёп- 08:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. --Ghirla -трёп- 08:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Deleting because of lack of Ghits is problematic because most of Strabo is not available online. It's also possible that whoever translated the parts that are online may have transliterated Zyx and Zygii differently, since Strabo wrote in Greek. I think it would be preferable if somebody who actually reads Greek could go over the primary source (Strabo) and see if there really is a Zyx and Zygii. If they were a race of people, they are inherently notable whether there are Ghits on them or not and whether they currently exist. I abstain only because the source is not online and Strabo is the only primary source (if he indeed mentions them). --Charlene 09:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Addition: I don't know if this is OR. If it is, it's a hoax. IF not, it's sourced (Strabo). Just because a source is a few thousand years old doesn't necessarily mean it's not reliable. --Charlene 09:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You may use Perseus Lookup Tool to search all sorts of classical texts and dictionaries. The result is the same. I support Dmcdevit's proposal that each unsourced article should be deleted in the course of seven days. The stubs have been here for more than a year and no source has been provided to substantiate the claims. If such a source is provided, the article may always be started anew. --Ghirla -трёп- 09:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Addition: I don't know if this is OR. If it is, it's a hoax. IF not, it's sourced (Strabo). Just because a source is a few thousand years old doesn't necessarily mean it's not reliable. --Charlene 09:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is a well attested tribe. I'd suggest moving the entry to the most common name, Zygi or Zygoi (Googling does yield results). They were known to the medieval authors as the Zechi and to the neighboring Georgians as Jiki. This people are also supposed to have been ancestors of the later Abkhaz tribe, Sadzny, who lived south to Sochi and became Muhajirs during the Russian conquest of the North Caucasus. --Kober 10:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm ready to withdraw my nomination as soon as you provide reliable sources for these claims. --Ghirla -трёп- 10:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Try to search for Zygi Strabo in Google (95) and books.google 26. Also, Russian search engines: зиги Страбон - 115, зихи Страбон 107.--Kober 10:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.