Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qalam-e-Mowla
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:56, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
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This article does not have the criteria of Wikipedia:Notability (books) Sunfyre (talk) 11:08, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:19, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:19, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Weak delete Google search was unclear on more info. There might be more information on the Arabic Wikipedia, but unclear if that's there. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 12:28, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, Ali is one of the central figures in Islam, so this book of his sayings is wikinotable, invoking (a slightly adjusted:) point 5 of WP:NBOOK ie. "The book's author is so historically significant that a book of the person's sayings may be considered notable." Coolabahapple (talk) 06:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment As a major collection of hadiths by Imam Ali it’s pretty certainly notable though there may not be a great deal of RIS in English and tbh I haven’t been able to find much myself so far. Mccapra (talk) 13:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Delete This is not actually a book of hadiths, as Mccapra says above, but a poetic collection attributed to Ali by a certain set of Shia's (as the article claims). It has been translated to several languages including Gujarati, Hindi and Sindhi (I was able to locate some passing mentions) but I don't feel this credits it something to pass WP:NOTABILITY. We need to have something that verifies its relation with Ali first. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:52, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The sourcing hurdle for books is pretty low-- just two reviews would do it-- but so far no one has turned up even a single source (even an unreliable one) about this book. I tried some searches with my best-guess transliteration "قلم-ي-مولة" and a few variations with no luck. Maybe sources exist in other languages, but without even the original spelling of the title, I don't see how they can be found. Right now there doesn't seem to be any evidence that an encyclopedia article even can be written about this book.~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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