Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Proles (Nineteen Eighty-Four)

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:19, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proles (Nineteen Eighty-Four)

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This is a follow up to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inner Party (3rd nomination). This article is in even worse shape than the now-deleted Inner Party was (shorter, less sources, etc.). It fails WP:GNG in general, and is a plot summary OR combo in the current shape. Note that the previous AfD in 2014 was a procedural keep with recommendation to discuss merge (which never happened). The principal author, User:Renata3, commented in that AfD that "it should not be a redlink, but these are not really encyclopedic topics". As I noted in my IP nom, there is potential to write an article about the society of 1984, but there is very little (if anything) to rescue from our current article, so I don't think any merge is advisable (much, if not all, of what is in the article is uncited or raises OR concerns). To address Renata's valid red link concerns, I did a bit of cleanup in the main 1984 article and I'd recommend this section for a redirect: Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Poverty_and_inequality. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Filled with WP:OR, and no real indication of notability other than book analyses, which focus on the book and not the Proles. Sungodtemple (talk) 12:41, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - wrote this way back in 2005 when just starting on wiki. When I learned better, I did not think that the article should remain on Wikipedia, but did not get around to nominating it for deletion either. Renata•3 19:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
After considering the Proles and cons, delete. Anything worth saving could possibly be merged to Political geography of Nineteen Eighty-Four#Oceania. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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