Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No sea in Beirut
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 22:41, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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Doesn't appear to pass WP:BKCRIT; can't find good reliable secondary sources online, but it's old and searching in Arabic is difficult for me. Sources given in the article are insignificant, not independent, or unreliable, respectively. Iseult Δx parlez moi 17:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:47, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I haven't had time to really look for sources yet, so I can't say whether it passes GNG (I'm leaning delete even so), but I will say that even if we keep this article, it needs a lot of work. The whole "criticism" section is written in second-person pronouns, and the lead is a bit hard to follow. I know none of those issues qualify it for deletion, but I thought they were worth mentioning if anyone wants to take a crack at cleaning it up while we're searching for stuff to see if we can get it to pass WP:BKCRIT. As things currently stand, I'm leaning delete per nom, but I'm not ready to put in a !vote for that yet. Sleddog116 (talk) 19:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As with much other Arabic literature there are dozens of sites offering the book for sale or download so there’s a lot to wade through. Bearing in mind that this book came out in 1963, the initial critical reaction would be decades before the internet and without being able to search newspapers and literary journals of the epoch we’re very restricted in what we can find. Nevertheless I found a 2022 appreciation of the work by a contemporary Jordanian writer here, a 2019 Algerian journal article dedicated to manifestations of alienation in this specific work here, and a 2022 Iraqi journal article about the poetics of the language in this specific work here. Lastly, though it doesn’t really count for notability, notice of a public discussion about the work in Lebanon in 2019 in a major national newspaper here. So clearly the book has been considered worthy of study and discussion over six decades, so I’m satisfied that it’s notable. Mccapra (talk) 04:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the sources found by Mccapra.4meter4 (talk) 17:22, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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