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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable engineer. Not notable under WP:PROF, no publications with more than 7 citations in Google Scholar. No awards. No senior management positions. No evidence of meeting GNG. (Lack of citations does not necessarily indicate non-notability in Engineering, but there has to be some other indication of notability. ) DGG ( talk ) 23:49, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Tavix |  Talk  04:37, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Too much of it is copyvio from [1] [2] and other sources. Gutting it didn't really help - it removed most of the content and the rest of it is also suspected copyvio. Time to WP:BLOWITUP and start over. Article itself doesn't even indicate why it is notable after being gutted (though probably notable in itself - but this is pretty unsalvageable). — kikichugirl speak up! 23:22, 25 December 2014 (UTC) Snow keep Seeing as there's an evident possibility of snow keep here, I withdraw my nomination. — kikichugirl speak up! 03:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep The building is indisputably notable, and I oppose having no article about the building, even briefly. The current poor state of the article is due to removing large chunks of text without substituting brief cited paraphrases. The copyvio detector is unconvincing. Of course, there are repetitions of government titles and designations. That does not violate copyright. WP:BLOWITUP is an essay which I find unpersuasive in this case. We are not talking about a promotional article about a new pop "star" or a YouTuber. This is a highly notable topic, and the article should be improved through normal editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If the nominator wishes to start over then she may do so by means of ordinary editing; deletion is neither necessary nor helpful in this. Helpful sources for the topic include: The Governors: New Zealand's Governors and Governors-General; Conservation of Government House, Wellington; The Making of Wellington, 1800-1914. Andrew D. (talk) 00:54, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As per User:Cullen328. This is clearly a historical building that played a part in history. There seem to be minor swaths of text that are copyvios, but those can be excised. A rewrite may be in order, but not a delete. DiscantX (talk) 00:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Personally, I'd like to WP:TNT WP:TNT. Especially when it is applied like this. The copyvio detector is not convincing, titles, location names and simple wording are always going to be repeated like this and aren't copyrighted material anyway. The only section I can see clearly copypasted was about Lord Plunkett. Removing the leading paragraph was ridiculous . . . seriously, there are only so many ways to say that in the first place that its bordering on uncopyrightable, and it would've taken the remover two seconds to paraphrase anyway. JTdaleTalk~ 02:56, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep per WP:SNOW, and the large number of substancial references identified as part of this discussion. Nick-D (talk) 00:21, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject's notability is not well established. There is some coverage of them, but the biggest aspects are cited through their own accounts rather than news coverage. The organization "claims" these attacks as theirs but these claims are not being supported through secondary outlets, particularly their claims of taking down North Korea's internet and XBox/Playstation systems on Christmas Eve. only (talk) 20:05, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I count at least 4-5 independent, reliable sources already in the article that cover the subject matter. They also cover the group across more than one event. Ex: this Forbe's article talking about a bomb threat that grounded a plane the Sony president was on. Artichoker[talk] 21:11, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, and move to Lizard Squad They've earned a hated reputation for a reason, and reliable sources already in the article back up those reasons. Essentially, per Artichoker. CRRaysHead90 | #RaysUp 21:47, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No proof of their claims. For all we no they could monitor the statud pages and claim they DDOS them when they go down under regular stress (like Christmas). Also, the only reason the hackers continue this is for recognition and fame and similar to WP:DENY we shouldn't really give that to them. EoRdE6 (talk) 01:05, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think this is some fairly shoddy reasoning. Not having proof of their claims is irrelevant. There are multiple, third-party, reliable sources that provide discriminate coverage to this group. It's not up to you to decide whether there is proof or not; we leave that to the sources. In addition, your last sentence comparing the situation to WP:DENY is silly. Does this mean that we should also not have an article for person X because they did something for fame/recognition, and we shouldn't give that attention to them? Who will decide which subjects Wikipedia will deny coverage to because we don't like what they're doing? You? Artichoker[talk] 04:14, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Even if it does turn our to be a hoax that would not mean that the group suddenly stops being notable. Hoaxes can be notable. For example we did not delete Lonelygirl15 when it was discovered to be a hoax and I am sure any attempt to try to delete it now under that rational would fail spectacularly. Also, WP:DENY is about vandals on Wikipedia not outside people or gropus that meet the notability guidelines. I don't see it applying here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.253.160 (talk) 07:21, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It's not about whether or not their claims are true, its about the coverage they get. It could all be an elaborate hoax and it still would be notable if that hoax is reported on. JTdaleTalk~ 03:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There has been a wave of coverage in general interest newspapers in recent days. This profile of the group in the Christian Science Monitor is just one example. This is big, enduring news. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:48, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Blake, Jimmy (December 3, 2014). "Who are Lizard Squad and what's next for the hackers?". BBC. Retrieved December 26, 2014.
  2. Tassi, Paul (August 27, 2014). "FBI-Hunted Hacking Group Continues Attacks, Targets Twitch". Forbes. Retrieved December 26, 2014.
  3. Cook, James (December 16, 2014). "How A Hacker Gang Literally Saved Christmas For Video Game Players Everywhere". Business Insider. Retrieved December 26, 2014.
  4. Tassi, Paul (December 26, 2014). "How Kim Dotcom Saved Christmas From The Lizard Squad". Forbes. Retrieved December 26, 2014.
  5. Newcomb, Alyssa (August 26, 2014). "Lizard Squad: Who Is the Group Claiming Responsibility for High Profile Hacks?". ABC. Retrieved December 26, 2014.
  6. Fisher, Max (December 23, 2014). "Meet Lizard Squad, the group that may have helped North Korea hack Sony". Vox. Vox Media. Retrieved December 26, 2014.
Unless there is an argument that this is something "Wikipedia is not", this topic is very clearly the dedicated subject of multiple in-depth pieces from reliable sources. czar  16:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, named on BBC television news, so very notable. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, No reason to remove article. Corn cheese (talk) 18:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, WP:Notability has been satisifed as per comments and links above Mikesc86 (talk) 20:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - no question about this subjects notability. wp:gng.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:05, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus herein is that the subject does not meet any of the various notability guidelines at this time to qualify for an article. NorthAmerica1000 03:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject does not appear to satisfy WP:GNG or WP:CREATIVE. Subject's participation in Dr. Who was uncredited and he has only one movie to his credit, which does not satisfy the notability guidelines. Article previously deleted at AfD for notability reasons and absolutely no indication the subject has achieved notability since the last AfD. Safiel (talk) 17:50, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:45, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A non-notable pornstar with just 136 movies (per iafd). With no major award wins, no mainstream popularity, no revolutionary contributions to the porn industry, this page fails WP:PORNBIO. Her one possibly unique contribution to porn was having sex with her half-sister Kimberly Franklin on-camera, but Lanny's page doesn't even acknowledge this relationship. Redban (talk) 19:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Unexplained vote that must carry minimal worth in this Afd. Redban (talk) 21:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - win, so passes WP:PORNBIO WP:GNG. Subtropical-man talk
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"win"? what win? She hasn't won any awards. Redban (talk) 16:46, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Раціональне анархіст, most category-specific guidelines (including this one) are assumed to confer notability if the subject meets any of the criteria. That is, if she does meet PORNBIO (1), then she wouldn't need to meet (2) or (3) for notability to be assumed. The question is if she meets any of PORNBIO and/or meets all of WP:GNG. Consider a closely related category-specific guideline, WP:AUTHOR. If a person meets AUTHOR (1) in that the person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors, then would it make sense to deny them notability simply because they didn't meet (2), The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique? The criteria in category-specific notability guidelines are generally check-pass, unless noted otherwise. Deadbeef 09:11, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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In other words, the smut industry has learned to game Wikipedia for endless free advertizing. <Gandolf pose> This, I submit, should not pass.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 20:08, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't think that's what's happening here. Regardless, if you think PORNBIO is too lenient, you can open a discussion on the talk page or add to the similar discussion already in progress. I think it's fine as is but you're more than welcome to raise an issue if you disgree. Deadbeef 22:55, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Based on the PORNBIO criteria, yes, it's a delete. But "absurdly permissive"? If anything, the notability restrictions for adult performers are absurdly RESTRICTIVE. You have to win an award, but it can't be just any award -- no body or scene awards (never mind the fact that most porn stars are famous because of their bodies or how well they perform certain acts) -- and it has to be the right organization that presents the award. Never mind the fact that the vast majority of "mainstream" actors have no awards whatsoever, but porn performers are being held to a higher standard simply because they are porn performers. Anyway, yes, based on the exclusive standards, delete. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 01:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have already voted to delete but I want to nail down this argument that the subject meets PORNBIO. There is no indication whatsoever that she does. The two keep votes that assert she does are founded on fantasy. PORNBIO requires:
Has won a well-known and significant industry award. Awards in scene-related and ensemble categories are excluded from consideration.
Not met - nominations only
Has made unique contributions to a specific pornographic genre, such as beginning a trend in pornography; starred in an iconic, groundbreaking or blockbuster feature; or is a member of an industry Hall of Fame such as the AVN Hall of Fame, XRCO Hall of Fame or equivalent.
Not met - no evidence in article or afd that this is case
Has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media.
Not met -= no evidence in article or afd that this is the case.
Please can we close down this discussion now and just delete this article? Spartaz Humbug! 12:30, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Subject of the article obviously fails WP:PORNBIO. I have no idea of how the subject meet WP:PORNBIO. The basic criteria required to merit a page had been clearly stated here. However, the fact that the nominator of the page had an issue at WP:ANI is not a concern but the failure of the article to meet WP:GNG and WP:PORNBIO. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 19:23, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 00:23, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet notability requirements of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources per WP:NCORP. Vrac (talk) 14:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC) Vrac (talk) 14:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. I can't really find any true coverage for this company to show that it meets notability guidelines. There were a handful of news sources talking about how they got a notable actress to hawk their products and some negative coverage over their products ([3]), but most of the coverage was brief trivial mentions about how the India government was ordering from "dubious" (their description, not mine) companies like Zee Laboratories. ([4], [5]) Sometimes these things can make a company notable, but in this case none of it was particularly heavy enough to really show notability. This could probably be speedied as sheer promotion, given how the page was written, but I think that this would benefit from a full AfD just in case some sources do exist (ie, not in English). Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -There are few passing mentions of the subject in some reliable sources ([6]). They however have received full-page negative coverage for Income tax-raid on their premises ([7]). To put it all, they don't meet WP:CORPDEPTH standard and qualify for deletion. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 13:05, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the others. The coverage is not significant enough. Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. — Joaquin008 (talk) 21:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 00:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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There are no reliable sources for the movie, none that I can find, and the article is a prime example of WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 14:13, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ETA: This article has already been through an RfA AfD in 2006, which was closed as delete. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 14:16, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Michig (talk) 08:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure if this person is notable. His father is notable for being the president of a large oil company, but I don't know if this person is notable on his own. (WP:NOTINHERIT) The article says that he was the President of football club Panathinaikos FC, but I'm not sure if that qualifies as making him notable. Natg 19 (talk) 01:59, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because he is a relative of Vardinogiannis who does not seem notable either:

Yiorgos Vardinogiannis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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  • Delete - we are not Onepercentpedia. Bearian (talk) 15:04, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Giannis - A rally driver who scored points in the top-tier series, the World Rally Championship, on multiple occasions, meets notability requirements. He competed under the pseudonym of "Jigger", and took sixth in the 1988 Acropolis, ninth in 1989, seventh in 1990, tenth in 1991, and eighth in 1992. This is verifiable in [8] He was also a multiple Greek Rally champion, but that is a relatively minor series and may not contribute to notability. Although eWRC Results is a regularly used source and is reliable, just in case you don't trust it, the official Acropolis Rally page verifies his sixth placed finish, whilst [9] is an example of a source that backs his WRC championship finish. There are also a few sources out there covering him as a chairman of Panathinaikos, such as [10] and [11]. No opinion on Yiorgos at the moment; will look him up shortly. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:47, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral on Yiorgos - In terms of English-language sources, well, there aren't many. However, I am pretty sure that there will be rather more sources in Greek; however, I don't speak Greek, and given that they use a different character set, I'm not really able to check such sources. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:07, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Keep - Not to be rude but not sure is really not enough to AfD. Stick some maintenance tags on the article if that is your worry. Now, I lean to keep due to his wealth and the arguments presented by Lukeno. Also his former ownership can be verified via this coverage I found in this book. JTdaleTalk~ 03:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. With a majority believing that this is a notable enough even to warrant an article.  Sandstein  10:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:notability, just like Netanel Aremi. Keiiri (talk) 15:58, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The most recent reference in the article appears to be from the 10th of December, well after the shooting, and concerns an ongoing investigation.Looking at the last few days I see continued mentions in articles regarding the recent spare of police shootings [12] [13] as well as the Village Voice including it in their summary of the year in NYPD PR disasters.[14] There's also a renewed focus on the housing and maintenance issues which led to Akai's death.[15][16][17]. I'm not seeing this going away anytime soon. Artw (talk) 1a6:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
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Keep. The topic of the article is notable, worthy of notice; significant and interesting enough to deserve attention or to be recorded. It clearly meets the criteria for inclusion in General Notability WP:GNG and Events WP:EVENTS. It has received extensive and ongoing coverage in highly reliable sources that are independent of the subject, and it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article. There are many informed avenues for developing this article. This event has demonstrated lasting effect, has already had widespread national impact and has been very widely covered in diverse sources (WP:DIVERSE), including 29,000 Google News hits (and 500,000 general Google hits). It has frequently been re-analyzed afterwards. It has already shown WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE / WP:PERSISTENCE. The event shows lasting effects, geographical scope, depth of coverage, duration of coverage, and diversity of sources. Maintaining a general article on 2014 police-violence protests and separate articles on notable instances of police violence is appropriate for an encyclopedia. This event is notable by itself. It has created lasting effects. A Google News search of <"Akai Gurley"> sorted by Date reveals articles in reliable sources in almost every day since the shooting. It is false and preposterous to suggest that no media is covering it. (Given the extensive press coverage of this case, from the day it took place until now, to suggest that it be deleted raises questions of WP:BIAS.) The consensus to keep seems strong. It would not be appropriate nor encylopedic to try and combine this and similar cases into just one article. Such an article would be too long and clunky. Not every case needs a separate article, but the most significant ones do, and this event qualifies. The separate topics already have been expanded into longer standalone articles. The topics are discrete subjects warranting their own articles. The standalone articles are not duplicates, they do not overlap in enough ways to warrant merging, they each have significant independent text, and they do not need to be presented together to have sufficient context (as with characters from a novel, per WP:MERGE). Benefac (talk) 14:00, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to back up your statement instead of copy and pasting. A quick look at major sites like Yahoo and CNN show no ongoing coverage. Keiiri (talk) 07:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Doubling-down on your falsehood does not make it any truer. If you want to make claims like there is no "media covering [this] right now at all" (as you did on Dec 18), when others have provided clear links to reliable sources that run counter to your assertion, then it is your obligation to prove your (false) claim. Likewise, if you want to claim that there is "no ongoing coverage" on "major sites" as you did on Dec 28, then it is your obligation to prove it. But you can't -- because it is not true. (WP:Weasel-words like "I don't see," "right now," "like Yahoo and CNN," or "a quick look" do not remove this burden of proof from you.) A very simple google search reveals many such articles; a few are listed below. Google ist dein Freund. I will not do research like this for you again. Your lack of WP:GOODFAITH as an editor in RfD and/or your inability to conduct the most basic internet research is noted.
"Akai Gurley Protest Draws Hundreds In Brooklyn," by Benjamin Hart, Huffington Post, Posted: 12/27/2014 5:24 pm EST Updated: 5 hours ago, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/27/akai-gurley-protests_n_6385234.html
"Protesters March Demanding Justice In Officer Shooting That Killed Akai Gurley," CBS News, December 27, 2014 9:50 PM, http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/27/protesters-march-demanding-justice-in-officer-shooting-that-killed-akai-gurley/
"Akai Gurley’s family leads march in protest of the Brooklyn man’s NYPD shooting death," Posted 5:00 PM, December 27, 2014, by Andrea Cavallier and Associated Press, Updated at 11:29pm, December 27, 2014, http://pix11.com/2014/12/27/akai-gurleys-family-leads-march-in-protest-of-the-brooklyn-mans-nypd-shooting-death/
"Hundreds of protesters march in Brooklyn demanding justice for Akai Gurley," BY Jan Ransom, Rich Schapiro, New York Daily News, Published: Saturday, December 27, 2014, 9:25 PM, Updated: Saturday, December 27, 2014, 9:30 PM, http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/hundreds-march-brooklyn-demanding-justice-akai-gurley-article-1.2058434
"Protesters stage anti-cop rally at Akai Gurley slay site," New York Post, By Ben Feuerherd, Beckie Strum, Natasha Velez and Susan Edelman, December 28, 2014 | 4:13am http://nypost.com/2014/12/28/protesters-stage-anti-cop-rally-at-akai-gurley-slay-site/
This extends to international coverage as well, e.g.:
"A Woman Demanding Justice for Akai Gurley," Economic Times of India, December 28, 2014, http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/day-in-pics/december-28-2014/a-woman-demanding-justice-for-akai-gurley/slideshow/45664440.cms
"‘Wake Up!’ 1000s take to streets across US protesting police brutality," December 28, 2014 10:27, Russia Today, http://rt.com/usa/218159-usa-anti-police-demonstration/
Etc. That's just for Dec 27-28. Benefac (talk) 11:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • First of all, Arms & Hearts already pointed out the recent protest. There was nothing from Dec 17-26 when this was opened, and the mostly-local coverage still doesn't indicate notability. Keiiri (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Great job on the sources, you should probably go ahead and incorporate the best of them into the article.
Keiiri - you seem to be actively upset the article is being improved, that's a remarkably poor attitude. I would suggest either assisting or stepping away - theres certainly no reason for you to jump on everyone who is helping out. Artw (talk) 06:31, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not jumping on anyone, and Benefec's personal attacks isn't helping his case. And Benefac hasn't done anything except being canvassed. You also really need to take a chill pill, I'm not the one getting all worked up for no reason. Keiiri (talk) 06:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I made no personal attacks. I simply reported the truth. Once again, this statement is false: "There was nothing from Dec 17-26 when this [AfD] was opened." This is not true. I write this not as an attack, but as a statement of fact, easily verified through basic google searches. Likewise, to refer to "the mostly-local coverage" is misleading, as indicated by the national and international WP:Reliable sources referenced above. Artw is doing a fine job of editing this article; please feel free to include any sources referenced here, thanks. Benefac (talk) 13:13, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then how about you try giving an example of what happened on Dec 17-26 when this was opened? Nothing even happened for weeks before that. Your first comment above was indeed nothing but personal attacks, and I request that you tone it down a bit. And the local New York, Brooklynn coverage is indeed mostly local-coverage. It still doesn't indicate notability. And again, WP:NOTNEWS. Would this "world-changing" event have any WP:LASTING historical or encyclopedic interest in 100 years? No. It's just getting news coverage because of so many of the cop-shoots-black-man stories recently. How about all the other people shot by cops also? Keiiri (talk) 00:00, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As demonstrated above, I will not again do basic google research for you. I have not engaged in personal attacks, I have stated facts. If you would like tips on basic google search techniques I am happy to help you. E.g., in a browser search box type the name in quotation marks, "Akai Gurley." Click on "News" to select news sources. (You'll note there are now 45,000 articles about Akai Gurley.) Click on Search Tools, and then click again in the drop-down menu where it says Sorted By Relevance, and change this to Sorted by Date. Now scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on the Next button to advance in reverse chronology. Continue until the dates you seek appear. Now choose the most reliable of these sources. Please let me know if you have questions on this. Yes there is local NYC coverage, not surprisingly so, and yes there is also broader regional, national, and international coverage of this event. In any case, this event has now achieved widespread news coverage, public discussion, and has influenced other events.
Wikipedia is not a compendium of 'world-changing' events, this is not a criteria for inclusion of articles in Wikipedia. Yes, it seems likely there will be WP:Lasting interest in this article. (As there is interest in articles on many individual cases.) This police killing of this US citizen who simply walked up the stairs to his apartment, has received widespread national news coverage. This is not a routine local event. Many major newspapers have published articles including this incident in the context of national debates about racial profiling and police shootings of unarmed young African-American males. Coverage has been widespread and ongoing. These incidents will clearly be the subject of long-term historical analysis, and one of Wikipedia's functions is to document this type of thing, and to collect and catalogue the full range of reliable sources covering the incident, for the benefit of future researchers. This is notable. You seem bothered by or resentful of news coverage about American police shooting black men, and you seem to want articles on people of other races who are shot by cops. Perhaps you should back away from articles about the former, and write articles on the latter. Benefac (talk) 11:45, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • All that you still can't even say what happened on Dec 10-26. Other than the recent local protest, it still doesn't indicate notability. The local New York, Brooklynn coverage is indeed mostly local-coverage. There's nothing on the major sites like Yahoo, BBC, CNN, or Reuters, and you never even hear of this case. Keiiri (talk) 12:53, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • You still can't say what happened from Dec 10-26. If there is really significant coverage everyday like you claim, then you should have no trouble finding recent sources from BBC, CNN, or Reuters, not old ones. That 22 second video about a local protest doesn't indicate notability. Nothing happened from from Dec 29 to now either, so your claim about it lasting and being frequently re-analyzed are false. The number of hits are also small compared to other events like the shooting of Antonio Martin. Your personal attacks are also not helping you either. Keiiri (talk) 00:45, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - So many white-cop-shoots-black-man stories in the news lately that they are too many to count. With this article, does this mean there has to be an article about EVERY similar incident that occurs, post-Michael Brown shooting in the least? Libertarian12111971 (talk) 04:16, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your question: no. At least 1,084 people have been killed by U.S. police since January 1, 2014. Black men (on average) are killed by police about 20 times as often as white men.[22] There may not need to be an article about every such killing. However, those that become a significant focal point, as judged in part by extensive news coverage and by their impact in shaping events, do deserve articles. The Shooting of Akai Gurley is one such notable event. Benefac (talk) 11:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Whether or not this meets WP:EVENT is, as always, something of a judgement call, but I think the recent demonstration, which received significant coverage more than a month after Gurley's death, is a good sign that this event has the lasting effects and persistence we require. Given that police killings of black men in the U.S. are something the media are taking an interest in, I think this is likely to continue to receive coverage. I'd certainly rather we keep an article that meets WP:GNG but might take a while to conclusively satisfy EVENT than delete it only to later find it needs to be resurrected. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 08:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep. Of course this article should be kept, for all the policy reasons outlined above, and more. The suggestion that this is only local news flies in the face of ongoing articles about this event across the USA and around the world, including in major periodicals in nearly every major language worldwide.[23][24][25][26][27][28] Deutschsprachige Zeitungen waren unzureichend zu diesem Thema, vielleicht? Eugene Banks (talk) 15:58, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTNEWS. Those sources are also old, and do not demonstrate a lasting effect. Keiiri (talk) 00:45, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
...and was frankly less disruptive than some allegedly more experienced editors on that page. Do you have a point relating to this article or this AFD discussion, IP User? Artw (talk) 01:22, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to Wikipedia, IP User 172.56.17.46, and thanks for your second Wikipedia edit. Yes, readers may read all about my mistake (in a separate WP article) where I initially thought one should label all one's comments, here[29]. What's your point? Please note that AfD discussions are not a 'vote'. Benefac (talk) 12:42, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  10:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Despite having 12 well-formatted sources, I have not found any that are actually acceptable/verify notability. Citations used are a mix of press release, brief mentions, interviews, quotes, award sites and other low-quality sources that create the appearance of it having strong sources, whereas it doesn't actually. Part of a much-needed cleanup of category:American public relations people. CorporateM (Talk) 03:02, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment—As the creator of this article it may or may not go without saying that I believe it should be kept. Feldman is a co-founder of the DC-based communications firm Glover Park Group, and is also known for being one of a few close aides to Vice President Al Gore who persuaded him to seek a recount in the 2000 presidential election. He hasn't sought much attention for himself, but it has still found him; needless to say, I disagree with the nominator's summary of the sources. Rather than placing this article in the mainspace itself, I took my proposed draft to WikiProject Cooperation for consideration, where it was approved and moved into mainspace by User:Silver seren (whom it appears was not notified of this AfD). Since the article's creation, Feldman has married Today Show co-host Savannah Guthrie, generating several news stories based on the premise that Guthrie's husband is, well, notable—in the Washington Post and NY Daily News, among others. Another recent article by The Hollywood Reporter has called him "Hollywood's D.C. Spin Doctor". I respectfully suggest this nomination be withdrawn.
Disclosure number one: I initiated the creation of this article as a consultant on behalf of Feldman's firm. Disclosure number two: the nominator is also a consultant to firms seeking to work with Wikipedia, a fact I believe he should have disclosed as well. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 04:03, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. The sourcing was fine before and can be better now. Simply asserting it fails WP:GNG does not make it so. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 21:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We need "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" not (as the nom rightly puts it) the "mix of press release, brief mentions, interviews, quotes, award sites and other low-quality sources" that have been eked out in an attempt to make something of this topic. Alexbrn talk|contribs|COI 21:59, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Naturally, all of the phrases in the WP:GNG are open to interpretation—it wouldn't be Wikipedia otherwise. However, let's take a look at the claim to notability and sum of coverage, including sources in the current entry and some not included now:
  • Claim to notability—Mr. Feldman is the co-founder and managing director of a national PR firm recently acquired by WPP group, and known for consulting on political topics for Hollywood. He was a high-ranking White House aide who played a role in persuading Vice President Al Gore to seek a recount in the 2000 U.S. presidential election, and he is married to a current co-host of the Today Show. This is hardly the profile of a non-notable figure to which the term "vanity article" usually applies. Instead, it easily meets the "worthy of notice" standard of WP:BIO.
  • Sources and GNG—Indeed there are some press releases and official pages used to verify some information that cannot be found elsewhere—a legitimate use following WP:PRIMARY that such sources are appropriate if used to verify "straightforward, descriptive statements of facts". They are not intended to demonstrate notability.
Meanwhile, Feldman's involvement in the recount has appeared in mainstream newspapers such as The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times. And while not presently included in the article, Feldman's significant role in the Gore-Lieberman campaign was covered extensively by Dana Milbank in his book Smash Mouth.
In case The Hollywood Reporter story (linked above but not included in the current article) is being dismissed as an "interview", it is clearly a profile including a Q&A.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post coverage of his engagement is brief, and the New York Daily News coverage of his wedding is sensational, but that's entertainment news on the web for you, and it is staff-generated content from undoubtedly WP:RELIABLE sources.
The fact that I was compensated for writing and seeking placement for this article's inclusion is notably absent from WP:DELETE's list of acceptable reasons for deletion and should not be a factor one way or another. However, I must stress again that I did not place the article into mainspace myself; this was a decision made by an independent editor.
Given the above, I think Feldman's notability is clear and again I request this AFD be withdrawn. Thanks, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 18:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak keep per WP:BARE. I'd like to see more sources added to the article, but even now it appears that this person is notable for his work on Gore's presidential campaign. Bearian (talk) 18:10, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: as a puff piece created by a paid editor. Alexbrn said it well above. Paid editor grasping at straws above to save article (using an engagement announcement to support notability? really??). I wonder if the paid editor has to refund the fees if the article is deleted. Hmm.. The Dissident Aggressor 20:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
DissidentAggressor, which of the traditional WP:DEL#REASONs do you consider applicable to this article? As far as I can tell, your argument is simply that you WP:DONTLIKE it. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 21:49, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, Alexbrn said it well: No GNG. The Dissident Aggressor 22:49, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - People seem obsessed with the whole paid thing and seemingly ignoring everything else because of that. I'll note, one of the delete votes, who won't give a decent reason why it is under WP:GNG, has filled his userpage with a essay on paid contributors. I don't personally agree with paid editing but - the article is more neutral than many unpaid things I've read on Wiki and the creator actually got it approved by an independent editor first. It's also rich given the AfD nominator is a paid editor as well. In addition, WP:BEFORE applies. A quick google found extensive coverage of him, such as profiles because of the marriage in places like E! Online and the Daily Mail, which like it or not do have huge readership. Now, if we go back to before his marriage was all the news could talk about, I found things like this profile in Hollywood Reporter. All together, definitely keep. JTdaleTalk~ 03:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  11:10, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG VanishingRainbow (talk) 12:46, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Closing as Keep. There is 1 argument for delete. A merge discussion can take place on the article's talk page, or someone can WP:BOLDly merge. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 00:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Not really seeing any point to this article - Article only includes 14 routes and a map ... All of which is more suited to a timetable rather than an encyclopedia. Can't find a shred of notability anywhere, I wouldn't object it being Merged to Tallinna Linnatranspordi AS since that article isn't that brilliant at the moment, Cheers, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 12:34, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. It's pretty obvious what the point of an article called "List of tram and trolleybus routes in Tallinn" is. Whether or not what's in it is what you would find in a timetable is completely irrelevant - since this list clearly isn't trying to be a timetable (based on what information it doesn't include), it doesn't violate NOTTIMETABLE (which was presumably the inference of the comparison). As to notability - as in previous cases, I doubt very much that Davey expended any effort at all to find evidence of notability, other than a brief Google search. Taking a common sense view, since Tallin is the capital city of a European country which has (if Wikipedia is a reliable source) had trams since 1888, and since trams and trolleybuses are elements of fixed infrastructure that take considerable amounts of money and construction to implement, it's inconceivable that such a system has never received significant coverage. If we take the UK as an example, hundreds, if not thousands, of books have been written about the history and development of the various trams and trolleybus systems, which obviously includes listing the routes as part of that coverage. If anyone had been daft enough to take the time and effort to read all available books in order to create List of tram and trolleybus routes in London for example (unsurprisingly, nobody has yet), I seriously doubt there would be anyone here entertaining the idea that such a list was pointless and not-notable, and obviously nobody would be able to say it was a timetable, since they ceased to run over 50 years ago. I also don't think anyone would be arguing to have it in the London Transport article instead. On that point I find it particularly bizarre Davey claims the information is pointless, but also thinks it would actually improve the article about the operator if put there. Pointless information is pointless, wherever you put it, surely? Notforlackofeffort (talk) 20:35, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I planned on adding it without the tables as well overall improve the article but fuck it you can do it .....Since you decided to open this you can merge it to the damn article, Good luck!. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 20:47, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A list of trolleybus routes is about as much of a content fork of the bus operator's article as a list of BMW cars is a fork of the BMW article. If this list was about London's trolleybus routes, then I doubt anyone would be claiming it should be merged into London Transport. Nobody is going to expand that operator article. In fact, while this discussion was going on, Davey has also been busy trying to make the operator article smaller too - apparently readers of Wikipedia don't need to know what types of buses the largest bus operator in Tallin actually operates, as it's probably out of date now (note that he didn't even bother to check they are, he did that merely on the assumption that it is). And obviously, what types it might have used in the past (if they have indeed been replaced), is obviously not encyclopedic information! Who cares what buses were trundling up and down Tallin's streets in the 1950s? Not Davey. Not anyone on Wikipedia it seems. What is more likely to happen is that once this list is merged, then later on, it will be deleted from there by Davey because it fails NOTDIR or NOTTRAVEL or NOTwhatever, since doing that doesn't actually require any discussion at all. He's done this many times to other operator articles. Notforlackofeffort (talk) 20:44, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There's nothing here that can't be discussed at that article; thus, this meets my definition of unnecessary as a standalone article. Unless I'm missing something, and there is and/or has been more than one operator that operates these services in Tallinn, this article is, to use your example, the sort of split that "list of cars produced by BMW" would be if BMW only produced one model of car. If, in the future, it can be expanded in the future to where its length would be burdensome at the operator's article and/or content about other operators could be included, then it can be re-split. --Kinu t/c 18:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You might be missing a lot of things here. Firstly, you're apparently assuming this list is complete - have you verified that? Do you know for certain this is as long as it needs to be to reflect the current system? I am pretty sure Davey didn't. Second, according to Public transport in Tallinn, the Tallinna Linnatranspordi AS/Tallinn Bus Company has only operated the trolleybuses and trams since 2012. I would say, given that this list could also potentially include information on historical routes (which go back to 1888), it doesn't make much sense putting it into the article about that company. Also note that I am in the process of rescuing the bus route list too (also deleted by Davey), and it looks like that's gong to happen, so it's going to look quite odd if the bus operator article contains the tram and trolleybus route list within it, but will also link to the diesel bus route list as a separate entity. There's also the issue of the name - why is the 'Tallinn Bus Company' filed on English Wikipedia under it's Estonian name anyway? Is that even the correct, current translation? Wouldn't it have changed in 2012 to reflect the fact trams are not buses? And if it is the right name, even if it was under its English name, why would anyone think to look at the article on the 'Tallinn Bus Company' for a list of tram routes? It's surely far more sensible to do what is done for many other tram systems, and split this list into two, one to cover Trams in Tallin and another to cover Trolleybuses in Tallin. I think the biggest thing you are missing about all this though is the fact that this discussion is not happening because Davey is in any way interested in improving the presentation or organisation (or indeed factual accuracy) of information on Wikipedia about the Tallin transport system, it's only being had because of his apparent total disgust at the fact Wikipedia has any list in it about bus/trolleybus/tram routes at all. Deleting them outright is apparently not going to work here, so he's taking the next best option and shunting it into an article where it's arguably not going to be found (easily/intuitively at least), and where he can quietly remove it from later on (as he has done before). In that context, if it was merged, then if the system did suddenly expand or someone improved the list so that is was now overwhelming the host article, I suspect Davey would be right there opposing any split, using the 'merge' decision here as the reason to do so. Notforlackofeffort (talk) 19:37, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I stand by my reasoning and, in fact, I concede some of the very points you make. Perhaps if you drop the battleground attitude, you might recognize that. That being said, I have zero desire to respond to what is ultimately just another bad-faith jab at Davey2010. Good day. --Kinu t/c 20:13, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - no need (as yet) for a standalone article. Of course a list of BMW cars would be a fork of the BMW article, but its an appropriate split per WP:SPLIT. Notforlackofeffort, you seem intent on criticising a lack of information here and there but don't seem willing to spend any time fixing the problem. This is a project of collaborative construction. You seem to be here to argue (and in ways that totally miss the point of most of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines). You also don't seem to like being here - suggest you find a different project to get pointlessly angry about. Stlwart111 01:22, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Please enlighten me about which rules I have totally missed the point of? I keep asking questions like that, and yet I keep getting ignored, on this so-called collaborative project. As soon as people stop ignoring me, then perhaps I might consider the equation of 10 hours work to 'fix' what it takes others 10 minutes to delete, even though they clearly know nothing about it and are less than collaborative when it comes to them explaining why they think rule X means outcome Y to them, might actually be worth it. In this case for example, it would take several hours to fix this list (or several hundred to do a proper job, which would obviously include learn the Estonian language). And why does it need 'fixing'? Simply because Davey apparently doesn't even think that information like where the trams and trolleybuses of a major European city go is "encyclopedic". I'm guessing the publishers of the World Trolleybus Encyclopaedia really dropped the ball. If you recognise that title Dave, it's because it's used all over Wikipedia as a reference! In all the articles about trolleybuses. Many of which appear to have, shock horror, lists of routes in them (I suppose you haven't got around to 'fixing' these yet). Anyway Stewart, you were saying about how it's pointless complaining about stuff like this happening on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia...... Notforlackofeffort (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Encyclopedic for any major city. It's not a timetable, which, as should be obvious, inclusdes detailssuch as times. The times are subject to rapid change; the basic routes, much less so. DGG ( talk ) 02:44, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm afraid you really do sound funny when you say things like this. Especially given your previous claims to be a bus enthusiast and know a lot about buses. In the real world, lots of books and magazine articles have been written about trams and trolleybuses, and even if you've never read a single one (which I suspect is the case), you should probably be able to work out using simple common sense that detailing where they ran/run forms a big part of that exercise (and obviously I'm not even remotely talking about publications which are designed to be 'travel guides' here). Some authors even present this information in tabular format, for the convenience or the reader. You know, just like the sort of tables you keep deleting from bus operator articles on Wikipedia. Notforlackofeffort (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of Degrassi: The Next Generation characters. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:18, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melanie Brodie, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paige Michalchuk, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tessa Campanelli, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spinner Mason, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Nuñez, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Hogart, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holly J. Sinclair, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Stone (Degrassi character) which were all closed as redirect/merge/delete. This is another character without any sufficient coverage to source an article. The article is currently full of plot details. Gloss 06:47, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • In-universe bio of a fictional character, with no real-world context to demonstrate that he would qualify for a standalone article — this kind of thing belongs on a Degrassi fansite, not an encyclopedia. Redirect per nom. Bearcat (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 00:13, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems to have had some success, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Created by WP:SPA, possible WP:COI. Boleyn (talk) 06:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Subject does not seem to be notable and doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO. BenLinus1214 (talk) 18:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Thanks to User:Medgirl131, there are now plenty of references to reliable sources. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Page tags state that any unreferenced material may be challenged and removed - the whole article has been utterly unreferenced since the placement of the tag more than 5 years ago. The article has been edited twice since 2011 and nothing meaningful has been added whatsoever. Since the whole article is unreferenced, I challenge it per the tags and instructions, and suggest its removal. CharlieTheCabbie|Yack to the driver 00:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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References, albeit indirect, are provided: the PubChem entry is sufficient evidence, I think. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 01:29, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I do not consider PubChem an appropriate reference. It just says the drug exists. The article claims it's a barbituate derivative, which PubChem does not reference. It says lots of different names for the drug, but nothing which says what it is. CharlieTheCabbie|Yack to the driver 01:41, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For references to more in-depth literature, see [30]. Sources have to exist for an article to be kept; they do not have to be in the article. (Also, I don't know much about chemistry, but isn't it self-evident that it is a barbiturate derivative? הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 01:54, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. Poor article doesn't mean that the subject doesn't deserve an article. I agree that it needs to be expanded. There are no articles on Pubmed about this specific barbiturate, but it might be used in veterinary medicine. JFW | T@lk 21:31, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please be advised that I have notified the Pharmacology Wikiproject about this AFD with a view to them repairing or rescuing this article by expanding it. Thanks :) CharlieTheCabbie|Yack to the driver 10:43, 12 December 2014 (UTC) [reply]

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The result was keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article doesn't meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG and no independent sources are available whatsoever. Article claims features in a couple of reputable magazines, though these claims seem unfounded: Cosmo on Google (Cosmo's search is useless...), shape.com, Shape on Google. Also Candice Galek 1 and 2. Nikthestunned 09:34, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What do you have to say about sources such as Yahoo, travel weekly, digital journal, ABC (dead link), CBS. They are not notable?. --Karlhard (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Correct, they are all press releases, which don't count towards notability per WP:ORGIND. Press releases are written by the company and so are not independent. (Why would you include a dead link also? That doesn't help at all...) Nikthestunned 15:19, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The first is a wordpress blog and so isn't reliable (also does read *exactly* like a press release despite your assertion!). The last is also a blog, if paid, per the disclosure. Of the other two, simandan.com doesn't look remotely reliable (looks like a random personal page) and noragouma.com fails WP:ORGIND for consisting solely of an interview (it's not independent if the information comes straight from the company owner). All of these look promotional also, given the wording etc. Nikthestunned 16:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most information on any organization can be traced to the organization itself. WP:Independent does not require the information to be independent, only that the source deciding to publish the information decides that it is worth publishing independently. Press releases fail because those are published automatically and without editorial review. Interviews however do require the third party to ask questions and then decide if it's worth talking about them. While the sources I provide may sound promotional, the most important point is that the decision to publish them is not in the hands of the company. Heck, if I like a product, I will rant and rave reviews about it even if the company doesn't pay me a dime. —CodeHydro 16:44, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So by my count we've one ref of dubious significance, doesn't sound like widespread coverage to me. Nikthestunned 16:58, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment. Have expanded the article third party sources [36], [37], and [38] in addition to the ones mentioned in my previous source. Note that while the first of this second set is a blog, it does bill itself as an "independent fashion blogger" at the bottom of the page. Admittedly many of these sources are popular blogs, such is normal when dealing with relatively new phenomenon as it takes time for more traditional sources to catch up. I would certainly be open to bringing this article back to AfD in a year to review its notability in other sources. —CodeHydro 17:51, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:BITE. As a final note, the original author only joined Wiki in September of this year but has already editted over 300 unique pages [39]. As per WP:Bite, we have to be more lenient on notability in order to avoid discouraging new and potentially valuable members of our community. —CodeHydro 18:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not going to change in that time - articles should be deleted if they fall outside of policy - no amount of edits done will make these three companies notable, so why wait a while? The new editor is clearly competent enough to create some decent articles, I went through and fixed up one so I'm fully aware of that. Doesn't change matters for these three, however. Nikthestunned 18:29, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
One ref (of dubious significance or not) is not enough per say it's "the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources", unless you've some RS you've yet to add to the page. Nikthestunned 18:39, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Which it doesn't meet - I've seen no evidence of ""Significant coverage" [which] addresses the topic directly and in detail", per the above. Nikthestunned 09:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete and redirect to Killing of Dave Owen Ward. There doesn't seem to be much notability apart from the murder case, although the article on the killing barely seems notable either. However, as long as that article exists, this seems to be a reasonable redirect target. Randykitty (talk) 16:04, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A grand total of four credits in all low-budget, unheard-of, and obscure 90s indie films - article appears to being used to host detail of a not notable death/accidental killing - deletion discussion is connected to the Nate Moore (actor) deletion discussion. Govindaharihari (talk) 12:03, 25 December 2014 (UTC) Govindaharihari (talk) 12:03, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - This article is tied closely to another and a corresponding AfD, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nate_Moore_(actor). --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 16:44, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Subject is notable with reliable sources, an editor keeps vandalizing the Dave Oren Ward article as well as the Nate Moore (actor) article. Neptune's Trident (talk) 17:33, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - Editors such as Factchecker0818 and Hemi.pwr may be the sockpuppet accounts of the actor Nate Moore (actor) who pled guilty to the crime of killing actor Dave Oren Ward and now wants the information taken offline. That's just a guess, a suspicion. Or maybe it is someone else involved in this tragedy between these two actors. Neptune's Trident (talk) 17:45, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

QUESTION FOR ADMIN: IS THE PRECEDING COMMENT BY USER:NEPTUNE'S TRIDENT AN ATTEMPT OF WP:OUTING?! OR WP:DOX ? IS THIS APPROPRIATE FOR AN EDITOR WHO HAS SO MUCH EXPERIENCE AND SHOULD KNOW THE WP:HA POLICY RE WP:PRIVACY?98.126.15.219 (talk) 02:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT: Another example of user Neptune trident Attempting to WP:OUT in this case, a second attempt: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nate_Moore_(actor)&diff=639600295&oldid=63959999300:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC)98.126.15.219 (talk)


Delete - While the incident of this actor's killing is notable, the actual actor does not appear to be notable enough to warrant their own Wikipedia article. Worlds Famous Cypress Hill (talk) 20:16, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete. The problem here is that I'm having a bit of trouble asserting that his roles are really all that notable. So far I'm only finding a small handful of sources for the films as a whole and none of them really mention DOW. Other than his death, the guy didn't seem to really gain that much attention. There's already an article at Killing of Dave Owen Ward, although I'm kind of leery of whether or not that really warrants an article since the entire thing didn't really garner a huge amount of coverage. Assuming that the page for the killing remains on Wikipedia it could redirect there, but barring that I'd suggest a delete. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Tokyogirl79, that article was created in response the multiple censorship attempts that involved Sockpuppetry by Shark310 and their Edit Warring over specific information in this and the Moore article. As soon as this can be closed, both of those can be converted to redirects. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 19:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - In my opinion neither David Oren Ward nor Nate Moore, nor the crime, are notable. The article should be deleted. The crime did not go to trial, it was plea-bargained and therefore facts of the case were never substantiated by trial. Evidence of Plea Bargain The case itself did not set any type of precedent, it was not appealed, and the crime itself did not garner any publicity subsequent to the instant offense. Additional evidence of plea bargain without trial. The entire subject appears to be an isolated incident and not worthy of note in Wikipedia. I would recommend delete.--Bobbynow (talk) 05:01, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Bobbynow, seems like you're new to Wikipedia. 2 edits in May, then a post here, did you have another or maybe previous account? BTW, findadeath.com is not considered a reliable source. Shark310 even commented there as well in defense of Moore and to belittle Ward. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 07:21, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Updated - The link has been updated to The Guardian, a reputable source, which confirms Moore took a plea to manslaughter and there was no trial. Link to Updated Source, findadeath.com removed.
Keep - and rename to Murder of Dave Oren Ward or Death of... It is his murder that is the most notable. even though he has in fact have had a few roles.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I see now that there are already an article Killing of Dave Owen Ward, so my question is why wasnt this article just merged into that article in the first place?--BabbaQ (talk) 23:44, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Can be editorially redirected as soon as there's something to redirect to.  Sandstein  11:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A PR firm of only 19 employees. It has been acquired by Peppercomm, which is the focus of available sources and can be reported on the Peppercomm page. Rankings, awards and lists do not make a PR firm notable, as the PR industry has a very large volume of these. CorporateM (Talk) 00:51, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect (changed from "Keep"). Keep the material, but move/merge to WalekPeppercomm (currently a redlink), leaving a redirect behind. There is no Peppercomm (currently a redlink). [Update: Draft Peppercomm article created, and is what I prefer now as redirect target] The merged firm and/or both predecessor firms seem notable. One article can cover merged firm and be redirect target for previous firm names. CorporateM's deletion nomination seems to suggest that they assume Peppercomm to be notable. Resolved by Keeping/moving this to WalekPeppercomm. Note there are awards, e.g. this press release one that announces WalekPeppercomm to be 2014's best PR firm for hedge funds. For notability of combined topic, check also:
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--doncram 22:26, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And I find there are many misspellings of Peppercomm as "Peppercom" (e.g. 3 correct vs. 23 incorrect in a non-free national newspapers database), so try also:
--doncram 00:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Although Peppercomm has only about 100 employees[40], a quick search in PRWeek suggests there is enough source material, including a 2014 Agency Business Report. I have used these "Business Reports" from PRWeek for other agency articles and they have been the kind of comprehensive source that is useful in building the encyclopedia. I don't think it should effect this deletion discussion (it's generally a bad idea to paste an article about Walek and rename it Peppercomm), but I would encourage someone to start a page on Peppercomm separate from this discussion. I would not be comfortable starting it myself for reasons I won't get into, but they seem to have enough source material for an article. CorporateM (Talk) 23:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, per suggestion I have started Peppercomm article, currently at Draft:Peppercomm and submitted to appear in mainspace. I can't move it myself, it requires another editor to move it to mainspace, but has been submitted and will appear in mainspace by regular Articles For Creation process. I see in the good "business report" source that the WalekPeppercomm entity is just a sub-entity of Peppercomm, which continues, so I agree with CorporateM that creating the Peppercomm article separately is best. But the Peppercomm article can serve as proper redirect target for Walek & Associates [update: and also for WalekPeppercomm]. I've included Walek & Associates in bold in the Peppercomm article and otherwise edited it to be a proper redirect target [update: though i see the bolding was removed by another editor, fine, no problem either way]. So I think it is now reasonable for this AFD to be concluded with "Redirect" decision, where the redirect target is the Peppercomm article when that article is in mainspace. The closer could make the move into mainspace, or could close with the redirect decision to be implemented when Peppercomm goes to mainspace. A redirect decision is superior to a simple Delete because it preserves the edit history and conforms to Wikipedia's promise to credit contributors per our copyright system. And it allows for acccess to the past info and it allows re-creation of an article if/when there are more substantial sources. --doncram 04:00, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And it's conceivable that the WalekPeppercomm unit, which is located separately in office in Boulder, Colorado, could get spun off and go back to Walek & Associates or similar name. And be notable on its own. Probably not, but still better to have the redirect keeping edit history, IMHO. --doncram 21:59, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. FYI - I made some copyedits, etc. to your draft. I noticed citation 3 is a self-authored piece, but left it alone. CorporateM (Talk) 08:10, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Happily also editor User:Sarahj2107 agrees this is a reasonable resolution (thanks). The draft was quickly rejected by an AFC regular editor, but I've added more and resubmitted it. I added one more cite on that point, about the agency being Wikipedia-policy-respectful, also a "self-authored"/non-independent source, but I believe it is a true fact. And I added several more PR Week agency business reports, for 2008, 2009, 2012, because you suggested those are "comprehensive" and relatively well-regarded as RS, though I didn't find one for every year. I think there's enough there now for the article to be accepted for mainspace, but maybe some more development from the now-linked PR Week sources would help. Maybe the AFC regular editor is naturally skeptical about PR agency articles which probably often are created by COI editors (not the case here). Anyhow further improvements and/or moving it to mainspace would be welcomed. Thanks. --doncram 21:54, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am somewhat skeptical as well that a 100-person PR agency would qualify, but at-a-glance it looked like they may have it (someone would need to research more than I did). I try to avoid articles related to fellow members of a trade association I am in, so I didn't bother with it too much. (it is a pretty close-knit community) I noticed stuff like "the firm has an improvisational comedy culture, including a program called "Comedy Experience"" which was cited to a primary source from the company. The quote in paragraph two seems un-encyclopedic. Sam Ford's book is irrelevant to the firm page and there are too many awards (please see WP:ORGAWARDS regarding what I feel are proper sources for awards). Also I do not believe the self-authored pieces should be used. Waggener Edstrom Communications is a small(ish) PR firm page I brought up to GA status and may be a good example to follow. Not trying to beat you up for volunteering your time, but my suggestion would be that less is more. CorporateM (Talk) 00:35, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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To CorporateM, your feedback about the editing is fine. I rather agree with you, less would be more, and what I put in could well be edited down. About the improv comedy culture, that is weak-ish and sort of synthesis-like, by me, putting together what I saw in several video links and interviews and other sources that are all probably directly from, or closely derivative to, the subject company or its people. The improv comedy slant should indeed be edited down; it would be far better to have an external source describing the improv comedy as a characteristic of the firm, and i did not find such an external source. It was me trying to make the article interesting and to verbalize what I was finding; it is fine by me if another editor ruthlessly edits that down. Or even better if someone finds better support for what i was trying. But there are multiple primary-type sources mentioning improv comedy connection, and some representation of that should be kept in the article, though maybe not in the lede. And yes the Sam Ford co-authored book also is weakish. It's relevance needs to be supported or it should be dropped. Thanks for your feedback. --doncram 22:19, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (NPASR) (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (yarn) @ 18:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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No indication of notability, does not appear to satisfy WP:BK. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 08:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Also seems promotional. Boleyn (talk) 06:56, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT not notable actor VanishingRainbow (talk) 06:18, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Non-notable actor only upcoming.ரவீந்திரன்
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The result was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:38, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Per WP:NOTDICT, article lacks sources and doesn't seem like it will ever move past a stub. Bottom (BDSM), animal play, and Dominance and submission already exist. If it's not a dicdef it reads more like a dab page. Prodded, but was removed by creator. I support deleting above all, but a merge into that article (or another appropriate article) also seems like a good idea. — kikichugirl inquire 04:52, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment I'm inclined to go with a merge with Animal roleplay (not Animal play. That redirects to something far more wholesome). After looking at a couple of blogs on the subject though it does seem the Animal roleplay article doesn't impress upon the reader the level of submissiveness that the BDSM community seems to consider a "pet" must endure. (See: The Main Types of Submission in BDSM: Submissive, Slave and Pet and BDSM Owner and pet Relationships) It seems as if Animal roleplay specifically has something to do with animals, whereas the BDSM pet-owner relationship is more about submissiveness. These might deserve seperate articles.
Keep in mind I'm not suggesting we use those two links as sources. We'd need more reliable sources. Maybe someone from the sexuality-related parts of Wikipedia would have some? DiscantX (talk) 12:34, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 12:27, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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NFL player who fails WP:NGRIDIRON by never playing in a regular season game and doesn't have substantial non-WP:ROUTINE coverage to merit WP:GNG. Deadbeef 04:01, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Doesn't meet the notability criteria for football players or college athletes and the only sources just show some routine sports coverage insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Jakejr (talk) 03:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Non-notable former Division II college football player. Does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines for college athletes per WP:NCOLLATH (no major awards) or pro football players per WP:NGRIDIRON (never played in a regular season game in the NFL or other major league). There is insufficient coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:45, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and I would also be okay with Userfy if someone wants to take custody. Strange one this--I'm seeing a lot of coverage from a handful of sources, but it all seems to be about how he's broken his foot... again... and won't get to play... again... In other words, the subject seems to be getting press for "not achieving notability" - Is that possible? I think it is.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:25, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG. — Joaquin008 (talk) 21:07, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ron, at best, it's a judgment call. Of the six sources you listed above, three are blog sites (ninersnation.com, silverandblackpride.com, itsalloverfatman.com) and should not be used for purposes of determining notability; a fourth reference (blog.sfgate.com) is an online blog that was not published in the hard-copy San Francisco Chronicle and it is unclear what degree of editorial control/review the SFC exercises. Of the two remaining sources, one is from the local high school sports section of the Seattle Times, and the other is local coverage of a college football player from the local newspaper. Like I said, marginal coverage, at best, to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. Given the lack of any noteworthy college or pro football career developments, it's just as easy to deem the subject non-notable. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:18, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 03:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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No reliable sources covering the subject, fails to meet WP:NME. —theenjay36 (talk) 03:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 00:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. The only source for this, aside from the unreliable Capt. Bingley of the British Raj era, appears to be a passing mention of the clan on p. 95 of this. I've been searching over many months now, both on- and off-line. Sitush (talk) 11:45, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (NPASR) (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (discuss) @ 18:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Undersourced BLP with no evidence of meeting WP:MUSIC Swpbtalk 01:39, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. --Kinu t/c 19:05, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not the subject of two, in-depth reliable sources as required by WP:CORP. A search in the leading trade magazine, PRWeek,[49] results in only blurbs repeating information from a press release and similar directories at O'Dwyers'[50]. Currently used sources are either not reliable, or are infotainment about fashion and electronics she "can't live without" - not exactly the basis of an encyclopedic biography. Whether the founder qualifies for a page is a discussion for another day. CorporateM (Talk) 04:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  11:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't find sufficient third-party references to show notability per WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Everything that I'm finding is from UCLA or related labor groups. Tchaliburton (talk) 05:53, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Very promotional article, with lots of puffery about its achievements. The article-sized section about the director, or rather "leader", is so POV it would never be accepted here as biography. There is not enough independent sourcing for a standalone article. I suppose it could be redirected to UCLA but I don't really see the point of a redirect from this title. --MelanieN (talk) 03:53, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ITSNOTABLE isn't a valid argument. But I'd be curious to hear why you think it's notable. In my view it fails WP:GNG. Also remember that per WP:NOTTA, "student editors should be treated in the same way any new editor is treated, without any special considerations that other editors do not receive." Tchaliburton (talk) 16:47, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Probably not notable based on our reckoning that individual departments of academic institutions are not notable. Note that this is an entity that has organized class WP-editing projects in the past and this may well be part of an ongoing project, so please userfy in the event of deletion. Carrite (talk) 21:59, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. Most such centers aren ot notable, and I have supported the deletion of dozens of them. But a few of them at the most important universities are,and this is an example. It would however need some rewriting, to remove fluff and excessive detail. DGG ( talk ) 20:00, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I was asked to take another look in light of recent editing. I still find that the center fails WP:GNG for lack of significant coverage from independent reliable sources (the Daily Bruin is not an independent source). This is not any kind of value judgment on the center's worthiness to exist, just an application of Wikipedia's notability policy. If the subject doesn't qualify for a standalone article, it could get a paragraph at the UCLA page. --MelanieN (talk) 03:25, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I might be in agreement to merge (see "conclusion" below):
Comments: Instructions and advice found at Student assignments gives a lot of instructions to "new student editors", and they can (and should) be directed to Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, however; a look for information on a "new users page" returns Wikipedia:New users that is a failed attempt to restrict "new users". Taking this into account I would say there is a slight difference between the two and some tolerance leaning towards student editors. I think this is an electronic encyclopedia for education, and with that in mind, I think we should "always" give some leeway to allowing for the education of potential new editors.

In this case our reckoning directs that notability is not inherited so the criteria for inclusion must be based on individual notability. I did not go any farther yet because I ran into a problem and have issues: This article (according to the lead) is a unit of: UCLA Institute for Research on Labor and Employment.

According to what I read we have: a)- this article that self-explains that it is a unit of (consists of four bodies), b)- another article, that is yet a department of, c)- another article (UCLA).
    • Conclusion: I commented to delete but IF the article "UCLA Institute for Research on Labor and Employment" is acceptable then possibly a "merge" to that article. If that article is not notable there is a problem.
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  • Keep per DGG, also search on Google Books or GScholar and you get hundreds of mentions. Wincent77 (talk) 00:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep . In the 23 days since this article was listed it has been significantly cleaned up. I find nothing promotional about the current cast and as per DGG it ought to be kept now. THis does not mean that I endorse according 'leeway' to articles created as part of an educational project. Still smarting from the IEP, I belive that the same rules for article creation should apply to everyone and that it s the role of the teachers to make that clear. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The only leeway we should give them is to to over-rapidly deleted working versions. Most course now do their writing offline to avoid this, and don't add it to article space until the end of the term. This may in practice be necessary in our environment, but it's not a good solution, because the original intent that the students would benefit for ongoing criticism in mainspace, is much more in keeping with WP. There are also instances where the finished article is better than our standard in, but in a way we do not usually see, such as he detailed specific analaysis of one particular event or artwork, and people have sometimes said such articles are inappropriate for WP as excessively detailed and erudite. Actually, it's the rest of the encyclopedia which should have the long range goal of mreaching that higher and more detailed standard.We have something to learn form the best of the student work. DGG ( talk ) 06:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Non-notable & unverifiable subject. Fails WP:NME & WP:CORP. —theenjay36 (talk) 00:21, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  11:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Self-promotional from the looks of things; has been tagged for notability for almost seven years with no resolution. Hopefully, we can resolve it one way or another now. Boleyn (talk) 09:43, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Vanity project created by <drumroll> user:ToddCochane--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 09:11, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. The comment by Раціональне анархіст seems to confuse this article's subject (a woman) with somebody else (a man).  Sandstein  11:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This person's sole claim of notability is as winner of a non-notable pageant. Yet another attempt by a certain user (with massive and very clear conflict of interest) to promote Miss Supranational, which has been declared non-notable in multiple AFDs. Although the previous Miss Supranational Mutya Johanna Datul passed AFD due to general coverage, surely this is a case of someone who is notable solely for a single event which is demonstrably non-notable in itself? When I do a search excluding "Supranational" almost all Google hits disappear. Mabalu (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Miss Supranational is a notable international pageant according to the reputed website "angelopedia.com"..

The person of concern is notable as a 2nd runner up winner at the Indian beauty pageant Miss Diva - 2014 and the winner of the notable international pageant described above. 11:43, 11 December 2014 (IST)

Runner-ups are not notable, sorry. As far as I can see Angelopedia is just another wiki, and alternative wikis are not considered reputable sources for Wikipedia. Mabalu (talk) 10:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Even so, angelopedia is not exactly an independent and reliable source. The Banner talk 02:39, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nobody opposes deletion.  Sandstein  11:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Largely unsourced (and the few sources that are there are related sources). Spectacular claims about his personal life go unsourced. Fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 12:38, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. NorthAmerica1000 00:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Article does not have any Reliable sources to establish notability, and does not seem to meet WP:Movie. There is nothing in the article except a plot summary and no claim to notability or significance. - McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:48, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep because there appears to be numerous Spanish-language search results in Google Books here. I ask anyone fluent in Spanish to review these results and share their findings. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I decided to look at the Spanish Wikipedia, there was a article under the same name back in 2009 but was deleted due to copyright violations. The lack of article on the Spanish Wikipedia is not an argument for the deletion here, however it should offer some insight into the significance of the film if the native language wiki doesn't even have an article on this film.- McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 17:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    We have to consider recentism too. Wikipedias of any language will be skewed toward twenty-first century films, so films that predate the Internet will be much less covered unless they are seminal films. This film seems to pop up in quite a few search results that I suspect that an article is likely warranted, but it would help to know what the results say exactly. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:57, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like Variety has an English-language review of the film as evidenced here, but it is not available online. It shows up in Variety's archives here. This would be a pretty good point in favor of notability. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
These look more like listings of what's currently playing, I don't have a subscription to look more directly at the articles but from the synopsis you have linked it looks more like casual mentions and IMDB type listings not extensive coverage or actual reviews of the film. Hopefully we can get more people involved in this discussion that may actually speak Spanish and may have an account on the variety archive site.- McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 20:44, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The Variety review identified above appears to be a strong indicator of notability. Another review, according to Google Books snippets, is apparently present in the magazine Bohemia, Issues 36-44. The director Antonio Marcero has been the subject of multiple books, eg. El humor y la emoción: el cine y la televisión de Antonio Mercero by Carlos J Plaza and José Luis Rebordinos and Antonio Mercero, 25 años de cine by Mikel E. Sánchez, and so it is reasonable to assume there is some reliable significant coverage in these books too. A tough one, but ultimately a keep for me. Cavarrone 21:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep It has been established above that enough reliable sources exist to merit keeping this article. The next step here is to take those sources and improve the article from its current state of a plot summary. Tavix |  Talk  04:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 22:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This page contains no references, she apparently took part in a national heat for the Eurovision songcontest but did not win, neither could i find any confirmation that she had released an album. Looking on the Romanian wikipedia, there is no mention of her at all. Fails WP:MUSIC entirely. Karst (talk) 16:54, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 08:23, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Perhaps there are sources in Hindi or some other Indian language somewhere, but sadly I couldn't find enough reliable coverage for this singer. If someone else finds anything I may have missed, feel free to ping me. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. The merits of the sources found by Cunard have not been discussed, which means that there isn't (yet) an informed consensus to delete.  Sandstein  10:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable professor/writer. Article created by User:NickCatal. / edg 19:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I can find book reviews (short ones) for his book on Clifford Brown (although not very flattering ones), but nothing else of substance. I added a NYT book review to the site, since I had it "in hand." Otherwise, I don't see any signs of notability. LaMona (talk) 22:33, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.  Sandstein  11:05, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet WP:GNG. I can find sources that mention this game, but none that are reliable enough to confer notability. Tchaliburton (talk) 22:06, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I have updated the article to add supporting references I was able to find, ensuring they are from 3rd-party sources not affiliated with the game. The game (as Rampage) has been featured in a video related to the TableTop YouTube series created by Geek and Sundry and hosted by Wil Wheaton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcIsRmb6A_8. I also thought that the name change presumably due to potential copyright infringement was notable, although admittedly I have not found any reliable sources for that information. I will let those more familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines decide whether this confers enough significance to warrant an article or not. STLocutus (talk) 06:24, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable mean more than just being third-party. Those references don't appear to cut it. I suggest taking a look at WP:RELIABLE. Tchaliburton (talk) 06:32, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Note that the delete !vote stating "Merry Xmas, Madina" was not considered as part of this close, due to it containing no guideline or policy based rationale for deletion. NorthAmerica1000 22:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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no evidence of notability DGG ( talk ) 00:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, the article is unsourced, and I was not able to find any sources confirming notability.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:02, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No clear consensus, but merging seems to be the most-supported option, and could be discussed further on the talk page.  Sandstein  10:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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An incident that caused delays for a couple of hours is not what I would call notable. Mostly it has only been noticed in the ISP and router industries. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 21:54, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The mention in the BGP article Routing Table Growth section is enough. There was some news coverage. While Notability is not temporary, but this one fails WP:PERSISTENCE. A thing happened on the internet, they fixed it that day, and it was forgotten. The name was coined by the register and used in a single article and some reddit posts. Trysha (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge with BGP As I allude to on the article's talk page, there's no certainty whatsoever this will be a one-shot event. The Routing Table Growth section of BGP should be expanded to include more content from 512k day and only then should the original article be deleted. The content will be relevant for years to come, and I knew the event as "512k day" and that's what I searched on - prima facie proof of its notability (or notoriety!), at least for now. --Athompso99 03:37, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
If you do merge, the original can not be deleted, but should be redirected instead. See WP:Merge and delete. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:50, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (gas) @ 18:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails our WP:BIO rules specifically relating to WP:ONEEVENT and WP:CRIMINAL. Nomination earlier this year included arguments relating to WP:IDONTLIKEIT and WP:GNG which seem to miss the bigger issues here related to WP:BLP. There is sensationalist coverage of his viral stunts by the BBC and The Independent, but they do not go the way to establish this person as notable as a criminal per Wikipedia policies since the fame is not at the level of renown. That's the level we ask for. I argue, strongly, that this person is unfamous. To wit, WP:BASIC points out that "trivial coverage by secondary sources may not be sufficient". We are at that level here. The local newspaper stories of this fellow's shenanigans are not enough to allow for a responsible WP:BLP. jps (talk) 09:25, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I can find enough evidence of notability. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 19:32, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Two of the three "keep" opinions do not reflect any consideration of the level of sourcing, which is what at issue here, and are given less weight in assessing consensus.  Sandstein  10:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A non-notable pornstar unworthy of having a page on Wikipedia. She fails WP:Pornbio for having just 140 films to her credit (per iafd) and no significant awards ("Favorite Breasts"???). She also has no independent, secondary, reliable sources to satisfy WP:GNG. The sources here are the typical AVN, star-factory, Penthouse, xbiz and such, which are not independent of the subject. Redban (talk) 19:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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"due to the awards" -- Didn't you read WP:PORNSTAR? Scene-related awards don't count.Redban (talk) 21:21, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete The analysis of the sources above suggests that this fails the GNG and this is a BLP. Spartaz Humbug! 19:10, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no awards, no mainstream credits (just an apparence on the Howard Stern's radio show), very weak coverage. I have not checked one by one the articles to verify they are all press releases, maybe a couple are not, but most of them smell of that, anyway there isn't enough for passing GNG. Cavarrone 09:18, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. NorthAmerica1000 22:50, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't find anything to show that this actor is ultimately notable enough for an article. He only has two films in his filmography, one of which doesn't appear to have released. (I'm not sure if the other one released or not.) A search doesn't bring up anything to show that he's notable, although I do need to note that there is an actor by the name of Kunal Sharma, but this does not seem to be the same actor from what I can see as the other guy's IMDb page does not bring up any projects by these names. I am mildly concerned that this may be an attempt by several editors to create somewhat of a walled garden around Dhansheel Kumar, but not overly so. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Redirect to Trinity University (Texas). Michig (talk) 07:24, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of notability. Building has not been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Hirolovesswords (talk) 07:26, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to Trinity University (Texas). Seemingly unremarkable building but it could make a plausible redirect. The article's author seems to have created a mass of indiscriminate university buildings as of late that are all currently either prodded or here. Deadbeef 08:56, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect No need to delete this if it can be merged. Considering it wasn't created all that long ago, it might be a bad idea to wait and see if anything new is added, because it is a rather large room as indoor auditoriums go. Also, most of those articles are years old. I have received almost 30 deletion notifications in the past week, including 27 in one day, so this is a bit overwhelming to pay attention to at once. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:13, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 07:18, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTDIR concerns. This is a list of people who are alive who are between 100 and less than 110 years old. I'm not getting into the overall list of centenarians issue, just these people don't make sense in contrast to say List of living supercentenarians which is at least the oldest living people. It's arbitrary. It makes just as much sense to create a "List of living teenagers", ninety year olds and every decade in between. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/People aged over 85. Ricky81682 (talk) 06:21, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep This is (or ought to be) a list of otherwise notable living people over 100 years of age, which is widely acknowledged as a threshold of significant great age. The percentage of red links is not excessive. Human society and its reliable sources make little distinction between people in their 30s and slightly older people in their 40s. The distinction between people below 100 and the small minority of people 100 years old and and above is widely recognized. Disclosure: I wrote one biography on that list, Glen Dawson, before his 100th birthday, but it was his accomplishments that motivated me, not his age. Study of the oldest among us is justified, though I am aware that there has been misuse of Wikipedia by centenarian enthusiasts. This seems not to be such a case. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:53, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Then would it make sense to merge this with the supercentenarians? Isn't over 110 also over 100? Both the centenarians and supercentenarians use "over 100" and describe supercentenarians as a subset of centenarians to me. I mean does it really make sense that Irving Kahn would move from one to the other if he lives to December 19, 2015? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
At least a merge is worthy of debate. But you didn't propose a merge, Ricky81682, you nominated the list article for deletion. And it is deletion that I oppose. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:50, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I know. Just trying to get a better idea of what the consensus could be. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, merging this article with List of living supercentenarians would make NO sense at all. The two lists have completely different inclusion criteria. Living centenarians must be notable enough, regardless of age, to justify a stand-alone wiki article; the only inclusion criteria for supercentenarians is a WP:RS stating that they have reached supercentenarian status (i.e. 110 ). DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 23:52, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Clear inclusion criteria on a notable subject. Refine it to only include individuals who have a WP article. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:35, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Living to become a centenarian is (still) a significant societal threshold. All entries do have Wikipedia articles. Once cross-category queries are properly implemented, this may no longer be necessary. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:53, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Personally I find this all amazing, Living beyond 100yo is IMHO epic, Anyway IMHO It needs improving not deleting –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 12:55, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – In fact, I was originally looking for a list of notable nonagenarians (which I would really welcome), but even if the community should not want that article to exist (although I suggest creating it), this one is certainly worth keeping. It's an extraordinary thing when outstanding human beings stay with us, the rest, for such a long period of time and they can share with us their views of our current time with respect to the early and mid-20th century, as well as their views of these former times equipped with the wisdom and experience they have gained in the course of a century. It's something unique when knowledge and experience is complemented with longevity, which occurrence should not be overlooked. (Let me note that, concerning Stephen Hawking, it's quite a feat to still have him among us even as a "mere" septuagenarian, so I think he'll be remembered in future centuries not only as an eminent theoretical physicist but someone who surpassed seventy and hopefully much more in his condition. In a way, it is a reflection of humankind how long we can help notable people to stay alive and possibly keep contributing to our world with their accumulated knowledge.) Adam78 (talk) 20:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - I was a bit surprised by the nomination, living beyond 100 years is something extraordinary even in 2014. The article is worth keeping and should be improved, but not deleted. — Joaquin008 (talk) 21:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Same as stated above. Also surprised and even a bit annoyed by this nomination. Every couple of years somebody finds it necessary to nominate this (or a different centenarian-related) article and every time the consensus is to keep it, albeit with some little changes. Adam78, CanadianPaul keeps a list of famous living nonagerians on his personal discussion page, in case you're interested. 12:56, 30 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guidje (talkcontribs)
  • Keep - per Cullen328. I'm concerned by the current desire to just destroy longevity-related articles. Why don't we work on improvement, rather than destruction? -- Ollie231213 (talk) 13:09, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Keep (withdrawn by nominator). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Promotional article about company of questionable notability. CSD declined because it was deleted once and for some reason restored back in 2007. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 06:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @Deadbeef and Northamerica1000: Lack of sources wasn't the primary reason for deletion, but to the extent notability is/was a factor I'd say the sources you've provided here and in the article remove any question. The issue here, however, is primarily WP:PROMO/WP:NOT. I know it's kind of a long-shot to AfD companies' promotional articles regardless of how grotesquely ad-like they may be if the subject is notable (and to be clear, I'm not saying this one is "grotesquely promotional"). It doesn't make sense to me that an article that could otherwise likely be a candidate for G11 (which is more or less blind to notability) gets a pass because of a 7-year-old DRV with no real improvements since then. That said, it may be the case that there are so many sources for this one that the only way a consensus to delete it on promotional grounds would emerge would be if it said "GET WRIKE IT RULES". That level of promotion is clearly not present. So we can consider this AfD WITHDRAWN. It's not my intention to use AfD to make a WP:POINT. --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:19, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:15, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I came across this via the AfD for Be Quiet (film) and noticed that the director did not pass notability guidelines. A search didn't bring up anything to show notability and I'd have tagged this with an WP:A7 except that there is a news article, but it is in another language. I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt that it contained something that would keep it from qualifying from an A7, but overall the guy just isn't notable. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:11, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tokyogirl79, What is the news article? All I see is a YouTube link. DiscantX (talk) 08:42, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Using some OCR software and Google translate I got the following:

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Had turned. Relay Weights of Jadurdajtd Sinst movies Karan had a chance.

This film Clani

What is shown in the film that we Cutting trees are helpless. They are Not speak to live in. The Kashya keep biting him. The film was shown that if The trees began to bite us, then Teshya. Am Ok this is Shantn film. Tto In Lvdrmra Lrkadygre cutting Jncl That is, not only from a tree He or she looks flows beside him View, then kill him tree Puts.

Clearly it's not the best translation but it does seem to speak about his film Be Quiet, which it's worth noting is also up for deletion. Yup. You already said that. DiscantX (talk) 09:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete -Lacking significant coverage in 'multiple' third-party reliable sources, subject fails to reach the WP:BIO standard. Additionally, it also fails WP:GNG and WP:DIRECTOR. The above provided only source actually features subject in picture and discuss them in few lines but sticking to policy and guidelines, one source doesn't establish notability on Wikipedia. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 18:51, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable youtube film (was de-prodded by a likely connected contributor, which is his right, but does not resolve the problems). DMacks (talk) 04:51, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm mildly concerned that this is potentially an attempt to create a walled garden around a specific set of actors and filmmakers involved in a specific group. I'm seeing where the director of this is being linked to Rahasya (which may pass notability guidelines) and thus to other people like Kunal Shrma (who appears to fail notability guidelines). Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is no evidence of notability in the article and a google search suggests that it doesn't exist. The closest may be the link that I provided a translation for on the director's AfD page, which may discuss this film, but it's tenuous at best and probably isn't enough to support a keep anyway. DiscantX (talk) 09:59, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closing admin: I think that you may end up having to block the original editor, as this article and the article on himself have been nominated for deletion and so far he seems to be trying to get around the AfDs by cut and pasting the article into different places and names. I've left a warning on his talk page about this, but I have a feeling that a block will become inevitable. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 12:07, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (NPASR) (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (natter) @ 18:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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advertising of a pageant in only its second year. Seems to fail WP:GNG due to lack of independent sources. (with respect, as long as the sources are in the latin alphabet. I can not see what is in other writing systems) The Banner talk 11:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep, automatically notable as a former member of parliament--Ymblanter (talk) 08:58, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable person. --Mdann52talk to me! 18:51, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Per BIODEL Wifione Message 18:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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BLP with a single source that doesn't discuss the subject, merely lists his name. Swpbtalk 20:43, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted by User:Metropolitan90 under criterion A7. (Non-admin closure) "Pepper" @ 17:12, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:AUTOBIO of non-notable WP:FILMMAKER. CSD removed repeatedly by author. ☾Loriendrew☽ (talk) 03:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Non-notable film maker; I can find no evidence of coverage in third-party sources outside of IMDb. Fails all possible points of notability under WP:FILMMAKER. Seattle (talk) 06:59, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete by CSD A7: This is not Workeropedia and "working in Film Industry as a crew member" is not a sustainable claim to notability, nor can I see anything better. I have replaced the CSD A7 tag as the autobiographer should not be adding to AfD admin workload. AllyD (talk) 09:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Rcsprinter123 (natter) @ 18:23, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This article seems to be written with the point of view that might be unbalanced. There are no references in on the for the information in this article can be confirmed. Since this is an article based about middle east conflicts, I don't feel qualified to approve its inclusion in the encyclopedia.   Bfpage |leave a message  23:43, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep – for now. Apparently this was created in its present form by an SPA with only two global edits, one of which is this article and the other of which is registering it at WikiData. How is that possible? I thought you needed at least 10 edits to be autoapproved. Anyway, this article is a translation of the French Wiki article fr:Bataille de Chaambi, which has 69 footnotes. So that's where the sources are. The editor should have said that in his edit summary, but we can do that now – tag it for references, put the {{Translated page}} template on the Talk page, and bring it to the attention of one of the groups that does Middle East conflicts. – Margin1522 (talk) 01:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was snow keep. Everybody who has commented, excluding the nominator, has recommended this be kept so there is no chance that this will have any other outcome if this discussion is left open. Thryduulf (talk) 11:29, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Glasgow bin lorry crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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This is non-notable event, and fails all of the WP:EVENT criteria. It has no WP:LASTING impact, no WP:DIVERSE coverage, no relevance outside a small WP:GEOSCOPE, and no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Overall, a minor incident with sensationalist shock, but no encyclopaedic significance. Wikipedia is not a newspaper, after all. RGloucester 01:59, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being a "major news item" does not indicate notability. We are not a newspaper. We are an encylopaedia. Flags flying "half mast" has nothing to do with whether this article meets WP:EVENT. A bunch of sources repeating the same news item does not pass WP:DIVERSE. There is no WP:DEPTH of coverage either, and certainly no WP:LASTING impact. RGloucester 02:42, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Might not be news for ITN. But definitely something that should be covered by Wikipedia. NOTNEWS is in my opinion one of the weirdest guidelines on Wikipedia, as it is built on news and new sources for most parts. What do we know about LASTING, absolutely nothing as it has only been a few days and the media conitnues to cover this story so pure speculation about the lasting of this. This meets WP:EVENT and it has great sourcing as well. --BabbaQ (talk) 02:55, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rubbish. There is no "great sourcing". Was this on the front page of The New York Times or even the non-Scotland version of BBC? No. We know about WP:LASTING, because a few days after there is no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE in WP:DIVERSE sources. RGloucester 02:59, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Whilte I tend to agree with your rationale, this is overstating: it still is on the non-Scottish version of the BBC news site and was the 3rd headline item on the Radio Four news just 3 minutes ago. AllyD (talk) 09:05, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Plenty of sources, Plenty of coverage, I'll admit the article needs improving but I see no reason to delete, Also personally I think stating it as a "minor incident" is complete rubbish (6 fatalities involving in essence a run-away bin lorry is in my eyes a major incident). –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 03:44, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Plenty of coverage" does not mean the article passes WP:EVENTCRIT, or that it is notable. Can you please actually read the criteria, rather than saying "no reason to delete"? RGloucester 03:47, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 07:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics), no claim to notability. Professor doing what professors do. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Actually I see most of the citations as only relatively trivial mentions (Cummings name is usually mentioned only once) about the same report. Still not convinced that this indicates notability even if it is considered to satisfy WP:N. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 00:12, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Clear vanity page written about the 113th largest independent PR agency[77]. Not of any particular historical significance, despite having 30 citations to awards, articles that do not mention the firm, YouTube videos, etc. It should be noted that in the PR industry, there are a much larger volume of awards than in other markets; every PR agency has dozens of them. CorporateM (Talk) 16:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep As I wrote on the David Landis (public relations executive) “Articles for deletion” page, I believe the Landis Communications, Inc. (LCI) article also qualifies for publication:

  • LCI’s national ranking (#113 per CorporateM’s linked reference), among ALL PR firms, not just “independent” (per CorporateM) PR firms, is notable. According to the PR industry research firm IBISWorld, more than 30,000 PR entities operate in the U.S., which places LCI’s ranking in the top 1 percent.
  • LCI and its founder and president, David Landis, led numerous notable launch PR initiatives for large brands including Match.com and Old Navy retail stores. Many of LCI’s achievements pre-date or occurred during the nascent years of the Internet and linkable references are scant. Hence, verification of LCI’s early achievements must be considered as the sum of parts, rather than a single, convenient and recent linkable reference. In addition, Match.com and Old Navy were new, unfamiliar brands at the time LCI directed their launch PR activities. History does not often record PR launch activities surrounding startups, in part because most new companies (particularly SF Bay Area startups during the mid-1990s dot-com era) fail within a few years. In retrospect, LCI’s innovative PR strategies for Match.com, Old Navy and other brands that are today household names (and which have Wikipedia pages) are significant and noteworthy.
  • LCI is regionally notable for its philanthropic activities and support of non-profit organizations.
  • CorporateM comments that all of the references in the article are unacceptable, but in fact they all support statements in the articles.
  • Notably, LCI is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, continuously-owned independent PR firm in San Francisco. It is likely the oldest LGBT-owned PR agency in the city if not the entire U.S.
  • The LCI article is not a “vanity page.” It details substantiated notable events in the company’s long history. Hence the “vanity” interpretation is subjective. In the course of researching the article, I found no scandals, criticism or controversy pertaining to LCI. If I had discovered such information I would have included it in the article.
  • I hold CorporateM’s comment that “awards are especially abundant” in the PR field to the same verifiability standards that s/he applies to the LCI and David Landis articles. What is her or his source for this claim? This is another subjective assertion. Awards programs for exceptional individual and organizational achievement are commonplace across all industries. If CorporateM and others wish to cleanse Wikipedia of articles that include “Awards and recognition,” they will have their hands full for the next several millennia.

I hope that CorporateM and other interested parties will work toward creating better LCI and David Landis articles, rather than summarily deleting them. At the very least, I wish to have an opportunity to further research and address concerns mentioned by those who would delete these articles. Thank you. Sfntv94 (talk) 22:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)User:Sfntv94[reply]

Thanks for your comments @Sfntv94. I see that the LCI and David Landis articles have been a significant focus of your contributions to Wikipedia and wanted to give you a heads up that if you work at LCI, you should really disclose a potential conflict of interest in this discussion. A couple links for additional information can be found here and at WP:COI. If this doesn't apply to you, then naturally just ignore me. CorporateM (Talk) 22:50, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete The article makes large claims, but the references by and large don't back them up. For example there is much talk about an AIDS documentary that won awards, but none of the coverage about that documentary confirms a role for Landis. Awards are not significant. All in all I think it fails WP:CORP. Not surprising: public relations firms are in the business of getting coverage for their clients, not for themselves. --MelanieN (talk) 03:36, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Strong Delete 113th largest in the US is not notable, probably #1, 2, and 3 would be--I'm not sure how far down we should go, but certainly not below 20. To put size in perspective, #1 in O'Dwyer (ref 13 in the article) bills $734 million--this firm bills 0.2% as much; #1 has 5,000 staff--this firm has 10. I find it hard to imagine how a firm that size in any industry whatsoever can possibly be notable. Oldest in SF might conceivably by a weak claim to notability; one of the oldest is not in the same category. The awards for this particular agency are exceptionally trivial: I see no evidence that a Bulldog Report award gives any particular distinction. "One of the top" is apparently the rating 113th by size (now possible 112th). Nothing else in the article even comes near that. Notability of a firm is not inherit by having a few notable clients, or essentially every firm would be notable. There is not even a claim in the article they are the major agency for any of the companies--but if they were, it would still make them no more notable that that company's PR division. DGG ( talk ) 22:04, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ...with no prejudice towards an early recreation if verifiable, reliable sources are found. Wifione Message 18:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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No independent sources. A PROD was removed by the author. Sammy1339 (talk) 23:08, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Statement about "no independent sources" is factually inaccurate, the page includes references from: IndexOnCensorship, the British Parliament website, Daventry Express, Socialists for a Republic, CompanyCheck, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjsa (talkcontribs) 17:46, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have also added sources from The Independent, The Guardian and UTV Media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjsa (talkcontribs) 18:18, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A political organisation, that has been recognised as having a legitimate voice by Parliamentary committees and leading academics (despite only being recently formed), should have an article here; even if you disagree with their views. As Graham Allen MP (Political and Constitutional Reform Committee chair) and Julian Huppert MP (Political and Constitutional Reform Committee member) have contributed to the Foundation it is vital that this article stays to help those studying British constitutional reforms can understand their opinions, pubished by the Foundation, preceding them. Disagreement with political views is no reason to strip future researchers to access to a critical resource about the Foundation. Also it is important as they are tied into sister organisations Republic and Unlock Democracy.

I should also note that the PROD Sammy1339 referred to was added by them (soon after the article was originally created).

  • Delete: The cited independent sources either make only a passing mention of this organization, or no mention at all. From WP:GNG: " Significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." Vrac (talk) 02:29, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Counter-argument - In fairness, although the original article wasn't the best referenced (though certainly not the worst), on the current article the reference from their own web pages, CompanyCheck, Daventry Express are entirely about the organisations. Around a quarter of the Socialists for a Republic article was about the organisation and the speech from Stephen Haseler. The others are entirely about the topics being discussed while noting the organisation. Considering how many articles are worse than this but are acceptable for Wikipedia, it seems ridiculous to remove this (especially when it appears to be politically motivated). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8B0:2C9:1546:7C8F:D649:4F05:3C27 (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2014 (UTC) 2001:8B0:2C9:1546:7C8F:D649:4F05:3C27 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
    • Comment: The organization's own website is not an independent source. The "Socials for a Republic article" is not an article, it is a facebook post, and it only mentions the organization's name with no other substance about the org. CompanyCheck is a registry with nothing but names and addresses, the Daventry Express reference says nothing about the organization. As for the comment about other Wikipedia articles, see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. I'm assuming the political motivation accusation was directed at someone else, I've got no skin in this game, check my edit history if you like.Vrac (talk) 20:06, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is worth noting that compared to similar organisations on Wikipedia this article is well referenced. The article on Unlock Democracy which is the largest pro-democracy group in the UK has 3 references, this article has 15. The quality of references is largely similar to that of Quilliam Foundation, it clearly isn't fair to remove this article; especially on the basis of it's references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayDaug (talkcontribs) 21:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC) JayDaug (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Are you familiar with Wikipedia's policy on sock puppets? Vrac (talk) 21:48, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To those of us in the Electoral Reform Society and the British constitutional reform sector the Reform Foundation is quite well known; I think the reason some people have critised some other articles for not being sufficiently referenced (I.e. Unlock Democracy, Electoral Reform Society) is they fail to understand that this remains a predominantly offline sector (due to average age of members, etc.) For an article in this sector it is remarkably well referenced. It may not be perfect, but I think it's beneficial for us to have it rather than take it away. Thanks. MWill75 (talk) 22:25, 6 December 2014 (UTC) Also just to comment again after reading the discussion. The Daventry Express article is clearly signed at the bottom as being from "Dr Ken Ritchie, Chairman, The Reform Foundation, Barby". Vrac was wrong in this case, the Foundation is mentioned. MWill75 (talk) 23:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC)MWill75 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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Delete, not a single independent source, the two RS - the Independent and the Telegraph - do not describe the foundation, the abov votes from puppets are not policy-based.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:29, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. With due respect to Augustabreeze's efforts, this delete close comes with no prejudice to an early recreation if better sources can be found. I can userfy the article on request. Wifione Message 18:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A 7-person PR firm that is not the subject of two in-depth reliable sources as required by WP:CORP. Most sources are press releases and broken links. Being minority-owned is not really that notable and has not attracted substantial attention from RS'. CorporateM (Talk) 04:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep HuffPost is pretty big and is 1/2 of two required media references. Can't somebody find one more independent media reference to this group? (btw, some billion dollar companies have 4-person lobbying groups in D.C.; four people is all you need to keep up a regular liaison with Congress.-Augustabreeze (talk) 13:01, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a link to streetwise.co which is owned by Conde Nast, a world famous media organization. With the addition of one more independent media reference, this AfD should be formally changed to KEEP.-Augustabreeze (talk) 14:18, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Snow Delete:Pure advertising, zero coverage except press releases. Not notable. Did Google News searches, found nothing. Please note the double voting above. Marksterdam (talk) 18:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reiterate keep Hello, AfD contributor, thank you for your contribution. Please note the AfD is not a vote. It is an attempt to establish whether or not the topic has reached compatibility with WP notability guidelines. The added link streetwise.co is owned by Conde Nast, which is a universally recognized international media outlet. Huffington Post Conde Nast = 2, repeat, 2 independent major newspaper articles about the establishment. Thanks. This isn't a popularity contest. It isn't a horse race. I don't like the Caraway Group. I don't like Park Cho-rong. THE NEW YORK TIMES and THE WASHINGTON POST declare that Yolanda Caraway is at the highest reaches of Democratic Party politics. That is it. End story. -Augustabreeze (talk) 12:59, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closer: Please note that Augustabreeze has put a keep vote in bold three times now. While it may not be a popularity contest, the actual tally so far is 2 delete and 1 keep. I took a quick glance at the article's new sources, but they appear to be directory-type sources, brief mentions, etc. CorporateM (Talk) 15:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3 (hoax). Bbb23 (talk) 02:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article appears to be a hoax, at least in part, inasmuch as no actual reliable sources support it, and investigation shows that the film credits allegedly belonging to the subject actually belong to other actors. This has already speedy-deleted twice [78]. Arxiloxos (talk) 00:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Nom withdrawn. (Closing since nom's withdrawn). (non-admin closure) –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 02:42, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable author: only 1 book with more than 2 library holdings. almost all are self published. DGG ( talk ) 23:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC) (nomination withdrawn--see below) DGG ( talk ) 02:41, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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