Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/As Seen on TV (novel)

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:34, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As Seen on TV (novel)

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Fails WP:NBOOK. Unsourced; I can find no significant coverage or any other evidence of notability. Previously nominated and kept in 2005, but not based on any arguments that would hold up today. Lennart97 (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edited to add, for clarity: The author is better known by his real name Simon Kerr, and his novel The Rainbow Singer might be notable based on some reviews found online. This does not seem to be the case for As Seen on TV, though. Lennart97 (talk) 14:08, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. A WP:BEFORE search returns nothing to indicate that subject meets WP:NBOOK or WP:GNG. I note that all the "keep" recommendations for the previous AfD are of the "Google confirms a book by this name exists" variety. Similar sources are available today (establishing existence). I can find none which establish notability. Guliolopez (talk) 20:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can't find anything other than what I added to the article. It's possible that there could be more but I have nothing I can point towards that would validate this, so in the absence of the author having an article this would just be a delete. (IE, if the author had an article I'd say redirect with history so that if more sourcing was found it could be restored.) ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as not meeting WP:NBOOK, or WP:GNG due to lack of multiple reviews, like those above, have been unable to find any, what is interesting about this book is that, according to WorldCat, it is held by around 75 libraries so we would expect there to be more reviews especially as this is kerr's second novel and his debut novel (in about 90 libraries) has ie. quick search brings up Kirkus (here), and Publishers Weekly (here), i suppose it could be mentioned at The Rainbow Singer? Coolabahapple (talk) 08:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Coolabahapple and ReaderofthePack: Would it make sense to create an article for the author and merge both book articles there (even though The Rainbow Singer technically qualifies for a standalone article)? The combined scarce coverage of author and novels might just make for a decent-length article, I would guess, but I don't know what the relevant guidelines are for authors and books when it comes to this kind of thing. Lennart97 (talk) 12:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

that would be WP:NAUTHOR, even "stricter" ie. no.4, not just reviews but also work(s) well known. Coolabahapple (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that would probably be hard to meet for this author. I do think that would be the only way to preserve anytying from As Seen on TV, if you really wanted to, as any information about this book wouldn't be particularly relevant to The Rainbow Singer. Lennart97 (talk) 23:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.