Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anne-Marie Kilday
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 18:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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Per WP:NACADEMIC, Kilday does not meet notability criteria. NACADEMIC states that notability is conferred if the person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
However, the post of Vice Chancellor that Kilday occupies is not the highest post at the University of Northampton; that would be the post of Chancellor, which belongs to Richard Coles. Thus, Kilday is required to be notable under WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG, and is not eligible under NACADEMIC. I believe that she does not meet the criteria for ANYBIO/GNG, and this article should therefore be deleted. Paul Vaurie (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Education, and England. Paul Vaurie (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy keep, faulty nomination. This is a common misunderstanding of British academia. In that system (and in some systems derived from it such as in India), vice chancellor is indeed the highest-level administrative post. Chancellor is, instead, a ceremonial post typically held by a non-academic. Incidentally, she also passes WP:AUTHOR through reviews of her books Women and Violent Crime in Enlightenment Scotland, A History of Infanticide in Britain, and (coauthored) Cultures of Shame: Exploring Crime and Morality in Britain. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep. Fallacious nomination as above. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC).
- Keep."Vice-chancellor" in the United Kingdom is equivalent to a university's president in the United States or Canada. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:54, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Or provost, or chancellor, depending on the North American university. We're confusing in our own way. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. To Eastmain's point, see Chancellor (education)#England, Wales and Northern Ireland:
"Almost all chief executives of institutions with university status in England, Wales and Northern Ireland use vice-chancellor as their title."
- Keep Since vice-chancellor is equivelant to president. Knowledgegatherer23 (Say Hello) 01:02, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Clearly notable under WP:PROF and AUTHOR. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Did the nominator not consider it strange that what they believed to be the top post at a respectable UK university was held by a "writer, radio presenter and clergyman"? Clearly, notable as VC. PamD 08:21, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Fundamental misunderstanding of the post of vice-chancellor. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:28, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Vice Chancellor meets PROF. --Mvqr (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy keep and a WP:TROUT for the nominator who failed to read WP:NPROF#6 under which they performed the nomination nor did they bother click on the very first link in the article, Vice-Chancellor that explains this in great detail. --hroest 17:28, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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