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Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Haymarket affair/1

I have asked at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Haymarket affair/1 for review of the good article status you gave to Haymarket affair at Talk:Haymarket_affair/Archive_3#Good_article_nomination_on_hold. I'm sure you are aware of the controversy surrounding this article. I will review the discussion at Talk:Haymarket_affair/Archive_3#Good_article_nomination_on_hold and notify the numerous wikiprojects listed on the talk page. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:36, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

File:The Turquoise Lament.jpg

I just wanted to let you know that I have had to delete the above image that you uploaded. It was brought to my attention that the image comes from another website. Although we don't consider an additional copyright on images that are faithful reproductions (i.e. Amazon thumbnails) of the cover, this was a posed photograph of the entire book. For this reason it fails the reproducibility requirement of WP:FUR (i.e. someone could make a free version of the image if they had access to the book). My apologies if this is in fact an image you created yourself. --Errant ^(chat!) 11:56, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue One - Recent news from the Teahouse

Hi! Welcome to the first edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

Metrics are out from week one. Week one showed that the need for Teahouse hosts to invite new editors to the Teahouse is urgent for this pilot period. It also showed that emailing new users invitations is a powerful tool, with new editors responding more to emails than to talk page templates. We also learned that the customized database reports created for the Teahouse have the highest return rate of participation by invitees. Check out the metrics here and see how you can help with inviting in our Invitation Guide.
A refreshed "Your hosts" page encourages experienced Wikipedians to learn about the Teahouse and participate. With community input, the Teahouse has updated the Your hosts page which details the host roles within the Teahouse pilot and the importance that hosts play in providing a friendly, special experience not always found on other welcome/help spaces on Wikipedia. It also explains how Teahouse hosts are important regarding metrics reporting during this pilot. Are you an experienced editor who wants to help out? Take a look at the new page today and start learning about the hosts tasks and how you can participate!
Introduce yourself and meet new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. New & experienced editors to Wikipedia can add a brief infobox about themselves and get to know one another with direct links to userpages. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, they'll surely be happy to feel the wikilove!

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Reminder! Women's History Month edit-a-thon

Just a friendly reminder about the Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon for Women's History Month :)

Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012 from 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM (PT)

Location: Wikimedia Foundation Offices 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th floor San Francisco, CA 94105

Bring: Your laptop and charger (we'll have some extra computers available), your questions, and your friends!

What to expect: A fun, laid-back environment with food, drink, a great mix of people, and a wealth of knowledge and resources.

Public transport: BART to Montgomery station and walk 1 block down New Montgomery St.

Reminder: The St. Patricks Day parade will be starting at 11:30 on Market Street. Market street will most likely be closed to cars so please plan your journey accordingly ;-)

When you arrive: A volunteer will be at the front of the building to greet everyone arriving 12:40 - 1:20. You will take the elevator up to the 6th floor.

If you are early: If you expect to come earlier than 12:40 to help set-up, please let us know, so we can give you a contact number.

If you arrive later: No problem. There will be a phone number posted to the front door of the office building. A volunteer will run down and let you in.

We can't wait to see you on Saturday! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 23:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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HighBeam

Hello Steven, I am sending this message to editors who signed up for the Women's History Month Edit-a-thon. Please help spread the word. HighBeam Research--an online, pay-for-use search engine for newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias has agreed to give free, full-access, 1-year accounts for up to 1000 Wikipedia editors to use. HighBeam has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications, most of which are not available for free elsewhere on the internet. Aside from a free 7-day trial (credit card required), access to HighBeam would cost $30 per month or $200 per year for the first year and $300 for subsequent years, so this is a wonderful, free, no-strings-attached opportunity. To qualify, editors must have at least a 1 year-old account with 1000 edits. Please add your name to the WP:HighBeam/Applications account sign-up page if you are interested. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Oy, you.

Thank you for the welcome. — Isarra (talk) 20:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Dan Leno GA request

Hi Steven hope your well. I currently have the above up for GAC having worked on it for the last few months. Leno has recieved a extensive PR and my intensions are to take it to FAC. I see from the reviewers list that theatre and performing are listed as two of your interests so feel this will be right up your street! Could you oblige with a quick review? -- Cassianto (talk) 21:32, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Obrigada

Thank you for the barnstar :)

Just want you to know that you played an instrumental role in my becoming a Wikipedian, and I'm eternally grateful for it. Even if we sometimes disagree on the inclusionist/deletionist split :) I'll always look up to your amazing contributions to the sum of all human knowledge. You rock. Accedie^{talk to me} 01:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

In response to your message

Hello Steven! Thank you for letting me know about my mistakes. I am new to Wikipedia and was not aware of that. I will continue trying to make improvements though! danni1125 (talk) 18:07, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Bedonk a donks...

Hi Steven. On the donkey article, you might want to look at the diffs of Dana boomer's last edit prior to the extensive work JLAN did to create the present version. Dana was working on this article quite a bit until JLAN stepped in (and well, me too, as I have concerns about JLAN). At that point, Dana stepped out. You might want to look at the work she did and see what can be restored and salvaged. Because I filed an ANI on JLAN due to his involvement on Donkey, Burro and Large Black (pig), I hesitate to do much content work on the donkey article myself. But if others see useful edits, well, just to draw your attention to Dana's work. Montanabw^(talk) 18:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't precisely understand what this editor is up to, or what the problem is. I see some edits that look vaguely okay, but then I also see you had to revert them ([1]) because they removed citations and cited content with no backing sources. Is it just that this user is wikistalking Dana still? (I have caught up on the last ANI thread BTW, and I think Worm's recommendations to all still should be given close attention by all...) Steven Walling • talk 22:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, same guy. Long, long history with that editor at WPEQ, not only with me & Dana, though I tend to take point when we get these sorts showing up, (why he is so mean to Dana is a mystery to me other than I suspect he has issues with women in general, but I cannot suss out motives). No recent problems on this article since said editor's last spat with SMC, but I'm not the best one to be going into this particular article due to the ANI and past history, and if I make massive changes, it will just be fat on the fire with this user, whose issues with me are obvious (see ridiculous discussion over feeding straw). But the article does need improvement, and while the other editor did add some useful material (some of the reorganization probably works as well as what was before, and his pointing out errors in using "filly/colt" lingo was probably correct, even if his tone was so aggravating that I got pissed just on principle) but also messed up a bunch of things (material in nutrition section was problematic, stuff on US history evidences not having a clear understanding of US history) But all that aside, point is, Dana did a BUNCH of sandboxing on it prior to moving her edits over, she clearly was starting to move it toward GA, but when said other editor began working on the same article, he changed a bunch of things, much with dubious sourcing to a book no one else has access to, and threw a huge chunk of Dana's carefully researched history section, and she has stepped back from the conflict. (diff to Dana's last "clean" version here) So, if you think some or much of her work from December should be restored, I'm for it. I'm also willing to keep eyes on the article, offer opinions, suggestions and small edits to all. But I'm not the one to lead this improvement effort. And I won't kick if you merge the jenny article, either. Montanabw^(talk) 17:52, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Tackling disambiguation links

Not sure if adding sections to "talk" page is best way to reply to you, or if wikipedia has any sort of IM system? x3

In any event, yeah I just noticed the Project Glass -> Siri link due to browsing the topic. But on the topic of fixing disambiguation links broadly, is this something anyone has built automated support for?

For example, a bot which scans looking for links to disambiguation pages, displays them for editors to decide which second-level link is appropriate, and then fixes the link in-situ? Or is the modus operandi to visit pages and plow through edits by hand? A quick scan over the project page didn't clarify that bit for me.

Put simply, if you've got a "which of these links is the right one?" flashcard webapp, I could put some time into using it. If you don't, but there are good 'bot building blocks out there, I could guage how hard such a beast would be to make. What's the state of this presently?

Danke Steven, haff gud tay. :3 JesseT77 (talk) 00:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Two

Hi! Welcome to the second edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

Teahouse celebrates one month of being open! This first month has drawn a lot of community interest to the Teahouse. Hosts & community members have been working with the project team to improve the project in many ways including creating scripts to make inviting easier, exploring mediation processes for troubling guests, and best practices regarding mentoring for new editors who visit the Teahouse.

First month metrics report an average of 30 new editors visiting the Teahouse each week. Approximately 30 new editors participate in the Teahouse each week, by way of asking questions and making guest profiles. An average of six new questions and four new profiles are made each day. We'd love to hear your ideas about how we can spread the word about the Teahouse to more new editors.
Teahouse has many regulars. Like any great teahouse, our Teahouse has a 61% return rate of guests, who come back to ask additional questions and to also help answer others' questions. Return guests cite the speedy response rate of hosts and the friendly, easy to understand responses by the hosts and other participants as the main reasons for coming back for another cup o' tea!
Early metrics on retention. It's still too early to draw conclusions about the Teahouse's impact on new editor retention, but, early data shows that 38% of new editors who participate at the Teahouse are still actively editing Wikipedia 2-4 weeks later, this is compared with 7% from a control group of uninvited new editors who showed similar first day editing activity. Additional metrics can be found on the Teahouse metrics page.
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Thank you for the welcome!

Thanks, Steven. I was a bit unsure of website citations - and didn't find an example of a 'good' url citation on the Help:citations page (just a bad one!). Let me know if the addition I made to the Beatrix Potter page is appropriate.--Anasuyas (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for noticing; I hadn't noticed myself until you mentioned it. Anjwalker ^Talk 08:28, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

openpicus review

Thanks Steven, I added external references (mainly postscapes that is quite relevant) I've removed the component picture from the article. Shall I remove it from Commons?

Image deleted, I will contact the guys and tell them they shall release some CC content (images) to be used on wikipedia.

Also, I removed the warnings since I've added other sources! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone Cicero (talk • contribs) 10:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Wikimania Admin panel

Hello Steven Walling,

This is a reminder to all indicated participants for my Wikimania admin panel that I need your answers to the questions by next Wednesday (the 18th). If this is not a good time for you, and need a little extra time, please let me know by talkpage or by email as soon as possible. If you know anyone who still would like to participate and meets the criteria of being an administrator and their wiki not already taken, please let them know as this is the final week to signup. If you have any questions, please stop by my enwiki talkpage linked in the signature. I also still need to know your prefered contact page. :) Thanks. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 02:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

call ducks

This drake is one my two ducks. We also expect their ducklings in three weeks.. Cheers, Jernej — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartol666 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hi, Steven. I am new to Wikipedia, so I don't know whether this is the right way to answer to your message. Anyway, enjoy the nice cat.

Regarding my Skype's edit, their "blog" seems to be the single offcial site where they "explain" the new features of new versions. And in the forum url, it's some staff which explains that automatic updates cannot be disabled. Who else could better know about an automatic defect (even if they want to include it amongst the list of "features") of a program than the manufacturer ifself?

Anyway, thank you very much for you attention and recommendation, which I will try to remember in the future.

Best regards,

- José, now Pawiko

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Search

hey how do i do a search for these tags:

This user lives in San Francisco.

This user lives in or hails from the
San Francisco Bay Area.

Victor Grigas (talk) 03:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

hahahahaha I just found out how im an idiot

The Indelible Barnstar

File:Swalling indelible barnstar.jpg	The Indelible Barnstar
	Inked. Forever and unique. Jorm (WMF) (talk) 19:13, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Why thankee sir. :) Steven Walling • talk 22:54, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Ouch! Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:11, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Boran cattle

Hi, thanks for your help. I didn't want to make any edits that were too big since the two sources I snagged seemed to offer different ideas of their history. I think I just need to find some more sources and figure out what happened one. One source mentions Europeans, while another just Ethiopians. If you have any other material I could use to source, that'd be great. Yaminator ^talk 01:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to find more sources to help us reconcile the ones already there. Thanks for getting back to me. :) Steven Walling • talk 19:09, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Super! I did a few searches in Google Scholar and a lot of the papers I retrieved were mostly grounded in the natural sciences, especially medicine, mentioning a certain type of disease. I'm not very familiar with cattle diseases at all, so I fear it went right over my head. (If you know anything about them, it'd likely be a very useful thing to add seeing as how often it's cited. Titles include things like "Susceptibility of N'Dama and Boran cattle to tsetse-transmitted primary and rechallenge infections with a homologous serodeme of Trypanosoma congolense"). I'll try looking into some Social Sciences databases and see if I can find anything of use. And if it helps, the two books I cited were on google books. So everything on the page is accessible online, which should help in cross-checking. Thanks again for your help! :) Yaminator ^talk 21:34, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary

Wishing Steven Walling a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 18:53, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Steven,

Thank you for the welcome. I appreaciate it. I will certainly be in touch if I need any help or have questions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.231.48 (talk) 19:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		A barnstar for your efforts to qualify the topic notability of the A List Apart article at its AfD discussion. Thanks for your efforts! Northamerica1000^(talk) 05:00, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:Taxobox

No problem! Nice article, keep it up! Ruigeroeland (talk) 07:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist style changes

Um, you just changed it back to bold for everyone. Was this intentional? --Yair rand (talk) 22:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

No, I didn't see that he included the bolding in the rev that I reverted to. I will fix it to the previous version now that I posted on the VPT. Steven Walling • talk 22:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

That bit of styling you just removed had nothing to do with the watchlist bolding... --Yair rand (talk) 22:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

The bolding was not done by a CSS change, it was done by a change to the MW configuration. Part of the styling added by Edokter removed the bolding. --Yair rand (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Well shit. That's what I get for trying to boldly revert a bold change that was too bold. I am happy to self-revert any portion if it's mucking with other things. Steven Walling • talk 22:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

That went well :) User Acceptance Testing - the key to a successful implementation. I do this stuff for a living and, OK, I don't have global users, but it really is unacceptable to be testing in a live environment. You need a test environment and a pool of testers (who are not the developers) who will quickly filter out the 'this gives me a migraine' changes. And you need better comms. Get someone to code a bot to put notices around. Use the Signpost. Use any comms tools you can. Everyone always complains when things change, and I know half the users (probably more like 90% here) would never notice any discussion, but even most of the people who hang around the technical areas didn't know this was coming. I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, and you're already quietly throttling the developers, but y'know :) --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- To be clear: to my knowledge the configuration change was not a WMF initiative, and my revert was definitely not a work-related thing. And yes, I agree about testing environments and communications, though I think Erwin was acting totally in good faith and not trying to slip anything under the radar. I think it's good for community members to be bold (even more so than staff in their work environment), but applying BRD here would mean the change needs to be reverted for now. Steven Walling • talk 22:48, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Bold editing of an article is fine. Bold messing with the interface without warning is terribly disruptive to a lot of people. WP:BRD is just an essay, and I cannot think that it was ever imagined anyone would try applying it to the user interface. Look at the various policies that have arisen on automated, semi-automated and general 100mph editing - the consensus is shifting to a view that there has to be a consensus before the run of editing - either a specific bot approval, a request for the action, or a general consensus like the AWB general fixes. I think there is actually a danger in allowing even Erwin (who does really good shit man) to make sudden and unexpected changes, that the community will become even more suspicious of "developers" (and I don't think they distinguish between paid staff and volunteers here). That's my two penn'orth anyway. It's a bit of a storm in a latte in this case, but it's worth bearing in mind. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

You're invited: San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2!

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San Francisco Wiknic 2012

	San Francisco Wiknic at Golden Gate Park
	You are invited to the second Great American Wikinic taking place in Golden Gate Park, in San Francisco, on Saturday, June 23, 2012. We're still looking for input on planning activities, and thematic overtones. List your add yourself to the attendees list, and edit the picnic as you like. —Max Klein {chat} 18:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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Old, old account

My account, Gary_Johnston, has no email address associated with it. I get the following error message:

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 Username:

Well and good, but with no email address for the account, I am in sort of a limbo world since email addresses are required for just about everything on wiki.

Please help. What can I do short of creating an entirely new account, which I do not want to do.

/gj/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.143.250.30 (talk) 21:16, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk. Steven Walling • talk 04:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Scottdelaney1067

Hey VanTucky, It's been almost 5 years since you first welcomed me to Wikipedia! I don't think we've directly interacted since then, but I did realize some years ago that you're now Steven Walling (well, I guess you always were, but you know what I mean) and are working for the Foundation. So, belated congratulations to you. Thanks for the advice you gave Scott at User talk:Scottdelaney1067#In response to your feedback. Dennis Brown and I have been trying to rein him in a bit, but I don't know how effective we've been. Hopefully input from other editors will help him get the message. He has enthusiasm and the potential to be a valuable editor, but still seems a little too gung-ho – Dennis and I have expressed the concern that he'll run up against someone who'll bite back at him hard. I responded to your message to him on his talk page with a suggestion of possibly getting a mentor at WP:CVUA. Perhaps you could help keep an eye on him. Thanks. Mojoworker (talk) 16:41, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the congrats, and glad you remember the welcome. :) I will be sure to check in with Scott. Steven Walling • talk 04:35, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Craig Thomson affair‎

Just a heads up you might get some flak for your semi-prot as there's been edit warring on the part of established editors too. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 06:58, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

If folks want to contest it that's okay with me. Checking the history, all I can see is an IP edit warring to remove cited content. People can quibble about whether that's vandalism or a legit content dispute that should be resolve through DR bureaucracy, but I'm not personally interested in the subject, just trying to resolve the WP:RFP request. ;-) Steven Walling • talk 07:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Steven, can you please restore my last edit to the article and then re-lock it? The subject of the article has been subject to an extremely vicious smear campaign by and in the Australian media; my last edit sheds some light on that fact. User Skyring alias Pete has repeatedly baited other editors, inserted edits with a biased POV, removed any edits or sources which suggest that the article's subject should be presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court, and has been maliciously editing the article. (And yes; I am sure the same will be said of me by him, but that's how it goes). 121.216.230.139 (talk) 07:12, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment, and for participating. However, from what I can see, the edit involved a primary source which is contested on the article's talk page. It's not my place to decide that dispute. Steven Walling • talk 07:17, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. Given the above, can the article please be listed for speedy deletion as an attack page? 121.216.230.139 (talk) 07:42, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Ping!

See Talk:Horse rings in Portland. I don't have the time to do the research, but interesting and cool topic. Montanabw^(talk) 17:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Saturday - and we need your help!

San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2! See you there
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The Tea Leaf - Issue Four

Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!

Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!

What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement

409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.

Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:

Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.

Want to know how you can lend a hand at the Teahouse? Become a host! Learn more about what makes the Teahouse different than other help spaces on Wikipedia and see how you can help new editors by visiting here.
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	Thanks Steven for helping out and attending the edit-a-thon this weekend. Myself and Lillie Hitchcock Coit thank you. Sarah (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

SF Article Review Party! Fun times (and food) for all.

Hi, Steven! Just wanted to let you know the Education Program team is hosting an Article Review Party at the SF Wikimedia Foundation office on Sunday, June 24th (from 11ish–3ish). We'll provide food, drinks, music, and laughter. You just provide your brilliant mind and acute eye for reviewing articles. If you can spare an hour or two, please sign up and join us on this mirthful occasion. Hope to see you there! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 18:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Electronic cigs...

Given the sprot (which I agree with completely) I thought I would just mention that I have started reviewing the Commons images for this category. I'm finding a number of single account offerings which look a little suspicious to me - if there is anything cross wiki I'll let folk know. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's likely it's like the pr0n situation: folks quickly realize that if they license correctly they can give us a glut of photos of a product. Steven Walling • talk 23:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagalejo^^^ 05:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Ping

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WikiProject Editor Retention: You are the "Research and data analysis" team lead

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July 2012 Study of authors of health-related Wikipedia pages

Dear Author/Steven Walling My name is Nuša Farič and I am a Health Psychology MSc student at University College London (UCL). I am currently running a quantitative study entitled Who edits health-related Wikipedia pages and why? I am interested in the editorial experience of people who edit health-related Wikipedia pages. I am interested to learn more about the authors of health-related pages on Wikipedia and what motivations they have for doing so. I am currently contacting the authors of randomly selected articles and I noticed that someone at this address recently edited an article on Artificial Insemination. I would like to ask you a few questions about you and your experience of editing the above mentioned article and or other health-related articles. If you would like more information about the project, please visit my user page (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hydra_Rain) and if interested, please reply via my talk page or e-mail me on [email protected]. Also, others interested in the study may contact me! If I do not hear back from you I will not contact this account again. Thank you very much in advance. Hydra Rain (talk) 12:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wikimania

I was superexcited to meet you in D.C., and you are even more dashing in person than you are in your photos. The guy who does nothing but wake up and fix comma splices is my hero, too. --David Shankbone 02:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Aw, shucks. Thanks man. Next time I am in the NYC area we should get a drink! Steven Walling • talk 07:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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Misuse of Talk page while being blocked

Please check out [3] the insulting comments by this blocked user. --DBig Xray 07:07, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Done talk page access revoked via ANI --DBig Xray 14:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Protection

Steven, do you want your user and Talk pages protected ([4])? Not quite sure why Ryan is asking for you, not to mention the fact that you could do it yourself (I know other admins do it).--Bbb23 (talk) 12:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to both you and Ryan for paying attention. I'm back online all day, so I'll keep an eye out and will self-apply protection if needs be. Steven Walling • talk 17:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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glyphosate

oh man you just cost me a ton of work due to conflicting edits. i see you are starting to work on this so i will stop now. enjoy! Jytdog (talk) 23:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

it's OK knock yourself out I should go do something else for a while, like ride my bike. :) Jytdog (talk) 23:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for feedback on Brooklyn Fair!

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This is the first page I created, so bear with me! Kdemarino (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Recent edits on the Foswiki page

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I would like to revamp the wiki page of my company, RocketHub, in connection with the redesign of our website. Our new site will launch in mid or late September. How can I submit a draft of my edits for your review and approval? Jedcohen (talk) 07:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response! I have reviewed the five pillars. I will begin my edits, and update you along the way. Thanks for your help! Jedcohen (talk) 08:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I have completed edits to the introduction and history sections. I would appreciate it if you could review, correct or comment on the neutrality, content, and citations. Jedcohen (talk) 10:23, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I mentioned one of your Wikimania talks ...

here. You may want to check it to make sure I'm not taking your name in vain :) - Dank (push to talk) 15:06, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks for the heads up! Steven Walling • talk 17:53, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Toxic gumbo

Hi, Steven! I noticed you waded into the toxic gumbo mess today. I know how much you know about its prior history, but the edit is controversial, and has been reverted by several editors, only to be added back by a decidedly uncivil IP. There's no place for it in the article about this dish; all it discusses is a folk use of the word, and might have a place in the hurricane's article at best. Unfortunately, none of the involved editors started a discussion of the edit, so I've done that now in the hope we can arrive at a civil consensus. DoRD has already semi'd the article once to stop the IP, but we can but hope discussion will help. --Drmargi (talk) 03:27, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Fine Work, Sir!

Keep up the good work! Don't let the busy-bodies slow you down. XO — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.102.175.31 (talk) 21:55, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Six

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Poultry template revision

I've had a stab at revising

v t e Poultry
Species	Chicken Duck Goose Guineafowl Domestic pigeon Japanese quail Muscovy duck Puna ibis Turkey
Breeds	Chicken breeds Duck breeds Turkey breeds Goose breeds Pigeon breeds
Diseases	Fowlpox Malaria Scaly leg White striping
Poultry farming	Antibiotics Battery cage Blinders Cannibalism in poultry Chicken eyeglasses Chick culling Chick sexing Chicken coop Chicken harvester Debeaking Forced molting Free range Free-range eggs Furnished cages Hatchery Hock burns Organic egg production Pastured poultry Poultry litter In the United States Yarding

as you suggested. Because of the large differences beween the species used, I thought this was best organised on a 'bird' basis. I have included all the birds in the Poultry article, although some might dispute whether all birds on here should be classified as 'Poultry'. I've tried to arrange the lists in the following order - Species (most common if known), List of breed or species, Family taxon, Uses or products, Housing system, Welfare, Other.

Let me know what you think. DrChrissy (talk) 16:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Poultry ii

Bird

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Duck	Duck breeds · Peking duck · Muscovy Duck · Mulard Domestic duck · Anseriformes · Eggs · Duck · Meat · Foie gras · Free range · Hock burns · Battery cages · Abnormal behaviour of birds in captivity
Common pheasant	Pheasant · Galliformes · Meat · Battery cages · Furnished cages · Blinders (poultry) · Chicken eyeglasses · Abnormal behaviour of birds in captivity
Emu	Emu · Struthioniformes · Meat · Historical uses · Current uses · Bush medicine · Coolamon (vessel)
Golden pheasant	Pheasant · Galliformes · Meat
Goose	Goose breeds · Anseriformes · Eggs · Meat · Foie gras
Guineafowl	Helmeted Guineafowl · Galliformes · Eggs · Meat
Peafowl	Indian peafowl · Galliformes · Meat
Swan	Mute swan · Anseriformes · Royal Swans · Meat · Taboo food and drink
Ostrich	Ostrich species · Arabian Ostrich · Asian Ostrich · Struthioniformes · Feather duster · Ostrich leather · Meat · Ostrich racing · Ostrich effect
Partridge	Partridge species · Grey Partridge · Galliformes · Meat
Pigeon and Dove	Pigeon and Dove species · Domestic pigeon · List of Domestic pigeon breeds · Columbiformes · Meat · Squab · Utility pigeon · King pigeon · Pigeon keeping
Quail	Quail · Common quail · Japanese quail · Galliformes · Old World quail · New World quail · Eggs · Quail eggs · Meat · Quails in cookery · Battery cages
Rhea	Rhea species · Greater Rhea · Darwin's Rhea · Rheiformes · Leather · Eggs · Meat · Feather duster
Turkey (domesticated)	Turkey breeds · Broad Breasted White · Galliformes · Meat · Turkey ham · Ground turkey · Heritage turkey · Eggs · Free-range eggs · Free range · Factory farming · Pastured poultry · Organic egg production · Yarding · Hatchery · Poultry farming in the United States · Debeaking · Chick sexing · Hock burns · Poultry litter

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Gobleki Tepe "religious"

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WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - October 2012

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Having references included in articles is one of the most important aspects to a good article, let alone Wikipedia! Without them, no one would ever know what is true and what is false and Wikipedia probably wouldn't be where it is today. So this month, I will talk about how to check for references, how reliable they are, and so on and so forth.

The first thing to do when reviewing an nominee is to do a quick scan of the article. One of the things to look for is if the article has references! If you don't see a list at the bottom of the article page, quick-fail it.^[2] For newcomers, quick-failing is failing an article when you spot a problem before actually conducting a full review. If you do find a list of references (and in most cases you will) make sure to look through each and every one. If you want to save some time, use this tool as it will tell you if there are any problematic references in the article you are reviewing.

Next, check the reliability and type of the references/sources. In terms of the type of reference, check to see how many primary and/or secondary sources are included. Primary sources are the ones published by the subject of the article. For example, if the subject of the article has to do with the iPhone 4s and the source is published by Apple, it is considered a primary source. Secondary sources are those not published by the subject of the article (or in close relation to it). Newspapers are examples of secondary sources and considered one of the better types to include in the article (not saying primary sources are bad). If you find that most/all of the references are primary sources, notify the nominator about this issue(s) and place the article on hold once you have completed the review. Only in the event that a secondary source can't be found as a replacement, then the primary source can remain. If there is a good mix of primary and secondary sources, that is perfect and no references need to be changed.

Now, reliability. Forums are generally not considered reliable and some blog's may not be reliable either. Newspapers, most sources published by the subject, some blogs, etc. are considered reliable. If you don't know wether the source is reliable, ask for a second opinion. For more info about how to identify wether a reference is reliable or not, visit this article.

Finally, one of the more basic things to look for is that every statement in the article has at least one reference! The only case that a statement doesn't need a reference is when it is common sense that the statement is defiantly true and/or in the case where the statement can't be challenged, as per what Wikipedia says, "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable published source using an inline citation."

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^ As of October 2, 2012 at 19:05 (UTC).
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Doesn't anybody listen to OPB besides me?

Good to hear you on NPR this a.m.! Keep up the good work! Valfontis (talk) 23:19, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I heard him too. David 1217 ^{What I've done} 22:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Favour viewing template please

Hi Steven. A while ago you suggested we expand the Poultry template. I worked very hard on this and then submitted it for comments. There was only one from an editor, Stemonitis. Prior to this, Stemonitis and I had got close to an edit war over some taxonomic details on Pain in invertebrates (taxonomy is not my specialist subject, but I wanted the article to be clear to the non-taxonomist reader). Anyway, Stemonitis suddenly began editing various articles I started and then made comments on the template, making me feel this had become a vendetta. I made changes to the Poultry template according to comments by Stemonitis and another editor I asked to have a look for an independent opinion. But, this is still apparently not enough and ‎Stemonitis has reverted to the old template which is misleading and inaccurate. Please could you look at the new Poultry template I developed and let me know what you think. All the best. __DrChrissy (talk) 17:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey. I sympathize with you about having someone seemingly follow you around. But I'm not sure how the shorter version is inaccurate or misleading. Just incomplete perhaps. Steven Walling • talk 22:09, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle

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Seattle Public Library	Date Saturday, December 8, 2012 Time 10 a.m. – 3 p.m. Location Seattle Public Library Meeting Room 1 on Level 4, Central Library, 1000 4th Avenue, Seattle WA, 98104 Event An editathon on Seattle-related Wikipedia articles with Wikipedia tutorials and Librarian assistance on hand. Hashtag #wikiloveslib or #glamwiki. Registration http://wll-seattle.eventbrite.com or use on-wiki regsistration. Yours, Maximilianklein (talk) 04:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Decemmber 8 - Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle - You're invited

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Yours, Maximilianklein (talk) 04:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Skeuomorph examples

Hi, thanks for your contributions to skeuomorph. I wrote dubious (which you undid) on the image of the car with fake wood siding because it needs a citation. Please see Talk:Skeuomorph#Examples_and_images:_with_citations_only_please. Everybody (including me -- the fake floorboards are my original photograph) have great ideas for illustrating skeumorphs. That's the problem. The article is a victim of its own sucess. As User:K8_fan wrote on Talk:Skeuomorph "I've been monitoring this article for quite some time ... it's such a cool term that loads of new users visit here and add one - and the list gets longer and eventually gets pruned. Rinse, repeat." Really everything needs citations on this page, otherwise it gets sever unreferenced content creep.

Responded there. Thanks for the note! Steven Walling • talk 23:02, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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If this is the first you are hearing of this event, my apologies for the last-minute notice! I announced it on the San Francisco email list and by a banner on your watchlist, but I neglected to look at the San Francisco invitation list until this evening. If you can't make it this time, I hope to see you at a similar event soon! -Pete (talk) 04:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Steven! Wishing you a very Happy Merry Christmas :) TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:33, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia edit-thon: Saturday, February 9, 2013

WIKIPEDIA EDIT-ATHON!
You're invited to the upcoming Wikipedia edit-athon, scheduled for Saturday, February 9 from 2–5pm in Old Town. Sponsored by Wiki Strategies and Prichard Communications, the event will begin with an introduction to Wikipedia, followed by an edit-a-thon focused on Portland's food scene, all things that "Keep Portland Weird", and local startup businesses.
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FYI, Steven! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:46, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

articles we shouldn't write

I started an essay I think will have thought value. Feel free to add from your experience or that of others or from hypotheticals. Nick Levinson (talk) 19:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon Saturday

Hey there, just a quick reminder about the edit-a-thon you signed up for tomorrow afternoon at Tech Liminal. Hope to see you! -Pete (talk) 03:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Applebee's

Might you reconsider the RFPP? It would only be for a week or two, this is turning into an edit war between the two factions. Most contribs are not participating in the discussion on the talk page and keep re-adding the information without discussion - ignoring BRD altogether.

If you would, please revert the most recent and lock it down so they will be forced to discuss the disputed information. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 07:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Jared Diamond's Bio

I see that you deleted someone's entry that did not have sources. Revision as of 18:38, 3 February 2013 (edit) Mohawkvellum (talk | contribs)

I tried to see if I could contact them--I suspect it is an indigenous person unfamiliar with how to do the sourcing required.

There is a series of a dozen essays from professional scholars and indigenous people that iMediaEthics, an award winning news site that is published by our foundation Art Science Research Laboratory, co-founded with my late husband Stephen Jay Gould that should be suitable and support Mohawkvellum's statement . Since I already am engaged with James Cantor to restore a section on this Jared Diamond bio page that was stable for many years, I fear, if I add anything from this series, of being accused of conflict of interest even though Mondo Times and Google Publisher etc recognize iMediaEthics as a legitimate media business news site.

Can you advise? Here is an example http://www.imediaethics.org/News/170/Rebutting_jared_diamonds_savage_portrait__.php and here http://www.imediaethics.org/News/152/The_new_yorker_rsquos_second_crisis_of_conscience__.php . This blog, Savage Minds, is consider authoritative in Pacific anthropology and endorses the Sillitoe, Kuwimb essay as most authoritative on the subject of Diamond's claims about tribal warfare in the New yorker article that led to Diamond being sued.

As I posted on the Talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jared_Diamond , the timing of this deletion of an entire section, in perception or reality, is suspect as it occurred on the very day Diamond's book pub date. Also with precision, on the same book launch day, the the word "forthcoming" was removed from the front of Diamond's new book title as if intimately part of the launch.

A Tiggarjay commented from a notice board that he would help "sort things out" but I am left with dealing with Cantor on my own with no feedback? I am inexperienced with conventions or battles (I see Cantor is very familiar ). I would really appreciate some help and advice? Thank you.

Rhonda.R.Shearer (talk) 07:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Jat Airways semi-protection request

I think the only reason I was declined the request to have the article on Jat Airways semi-protected was because your were less familiar with the airline and other variables regarding it--I'm sure if you were familiar with the basics on Airbus's delivery queue, you would recognize that the IP edits are basically trying to exaggerate the airline's orders of new aircraft. If you look at the edits of IP 92.60.225.228 (see below line 152 upon clicking the link you posted) that you posted when you declined the request, it can be seen that he has not only deleted my correct references and added false ones (e.g. the Bhutan Air reference), but he/she changes the ATR-72-500 order to ATR-72-600, and likewise from Airbus A319 to Airbus A319E w/sharklets, Airbus A320 to Airbus A320neo, etc (see the fleet section if you are interested in reconsidering your decision). In the references that I put, the airline is only leasing ATR-72-500s as well as regular A319s and A320s. The A320neo and A319E with sharklets are false information because a) in none of the references does it say so, and b) the neo/sharklet versions are recently announced models and the queue for orders of the type are so occupied that even if Jat were to order them now, they would never come before 2017 at the very earliest; as you can see in the article's fleet section, the IP editors claim that such models are being delivered in 2015, and of course they put this in place of a reference I put that was once there. All I ask for, if it still seems impossible to see that the IP users are vandalizing (including deleting my references and replacing them with off-topic ones), is whether it's okay for me to send another request for the sake of not trying to get into an edit conflict with them. Zastavafan76 (talk) 17:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven

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We’ve added badges! Teahouse awards is a pilot project to learn how acknowledgement impacts engagement and retention in Teahouse and Wikipedia.

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Thanks for joining the project, and please feel free to post articles for cleanup there! Happy editing, Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)

It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you.

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1 year statistics for Teahouse visitors compared to invited non-visitors from the pilot:

Metric	Control group	Teahouse group	Contrast
Average retention (weeks with at least 1 edit)	5.02 weeks	8.57 weeks	1.7x retention
Average number of articles edited	58.7 articles	116.9 edits	2.0x articles edited
Average talk page edits	36.5 edits	85.6 edits	2.4x talk page edits
Average article space edits	129.6 edits	360.4 edits	2.8x article edits
Average total edits (all namespaces)	182.1 edits	532.4 edits	2.9x total edits

Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper

Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.

Come by the Teahouse to share a cup of tea and enjoy a Birthday Cupcake! Happy Birthday to the Teahouse and thank you for a year's worth of interest and support :-)

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Looking for some feedback, if you don't mind

I'm looking to get some informal feedback on an idea related to editor retention and editor recognition, before I try posting something at Village Pump Ideas.

The draft is here

I got some feedback from Dennis Brown and Drmies, which I have tried to incorporate. I'd like to get a little more before I open it up to the world.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Great idea, I'll try and leave some comments tonight. Steven Walling • talk 18:00, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --SPhilbrick (Talk) 18:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Ass's milk

Congratulations on exporting a tiny bit more American priggishness to a global audience. When you're done celebrating this little victory against potential offensiveness, feel free to do as thorough a job as I foolishly bothered to do in tidying up the loose ends effected by moving the page from where it had errantly lain, seldom remarked upon, for just shy of four years. Anyway, since my efforts are not appreciated, they will no longer be forthcoming. Congratulations once again. LaFoiblesse (talk (but don't really)) 17:41, 15 March 2013 (GMT)

You need to keep a civil tone. As you can see from the page history, when you edit something, it goes out in to people's watchlists and typically follow up edits ensue. You did perfectly fine job trying to fix the awkward naming of the article, and my follow up move was not a personal judgement. And by the way, the victory is not over imagined offensiveness, but over unnecessary grammatical complexity. Steven Walling • talk 20:34, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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We really need a better tutorial that newbies can be asked to go through -- the kind that autogenerates a userpage for you at the end based on your completion. That would make this sort of drama harder to conjure up. [regarding: the recent U.Toronto psych class drama] – SJ

The problem is much more complex than that, in my experience.

We actually do now have pretty comprehensive training guides (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training) and a budding list of low-stakes things for newcomers to do right away (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GettingStarted). Even programs like IEG experimented with this kind of thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Tutorial

Even if these students had gone through an onboarding process with a user page wizard and successful completion of 1-10 first decent article edits, they're going to cause a fuss if they make nearly 1,000 new pages on a certain topic in a coordinated area.

True. But that's a different sort of issue than "copyvios/plagiarism". I also think we need a better tutorial for Editors/Reviewers -- so that a % of newbies can be encouraged to 'think like a curator' and act as critic of others rather than just writer. It doesn't take a 1:1 ratio for this to be helpful - even a bad editor will start to see things differently by putting on a different hat. – SJ

The attitude of existing editors tends to change when you move from a naturally and independently motivated group of people creating thousands of new items of their own volition, to one where people are joining because someone made a coordinated campaign. It automatically creates a situation where the recruiting entity is viewed as responsible for the quality of their work. Whether that is fair or not is debatable, but it's the reality of the situation.

The conflict is exacerbated by the nature of page creation and uploads. With edits to existing pages, where it is in fact easier to remove than to make, the cost of experimentation and even outright vandalism is lower. The burden of tagging and deleting objects like new pages and files is, both technologically and in community policy, a much heavier one.

That's an interesting point - one that has a partial tech. solution. But in this U.Toronto case they were editing existing articles. Warmly, – SJ

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Ah, thanks for the tip. Will do in the future. I am obviously new to ITN, and it was pretty late here. Steven Walling • talk 18:52, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you so much Tom! You're too kind. All I did was shuffle some bits around really. Steven Walling • talk 01:29, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Just letting you know that I am proposing a merge of cow pony into stock horse. "Cow pony" is just an old slang colloquialism. Unlike polo pony, the word is not really used much by practitioners today. As far as adding it to a list or something, see what I did at List_of_horse_breeds#Types_of_horse. Montanabw^(talk) 21:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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Warby Parker

Your clear conflicts of interest show through on the Warby Parker page. I will take it over. You should avoid editing it going forward unless edits are approved beforehand. Additionally, you should stay very very far from discussing anything relevant to price or marketing which you have clearly emphasized in your copy. Zippypie (talk) 18:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

@Zippypie: Uh, sorry. But you can't take over pages, and you can't just go around accusing people of bad faith or conflicts of interest. If there are things you think should be changed in the article, go ahead and change them, or bring them up on the talk page. You don't need to make threats and be a dick. Steven Walling • talk 19:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Woah there cowboy, watch the language and be civil. Ad hominem attacks have no place here. I have the page in my watched list and will be monitoring it due to the obvious (and honestly admitted) conflicts of interest admitted by previous editors. I am not making any threats I am simply politely informing you of this beforehand. Additionally, it is bad form to revert verifiable edits which are properly sourced. I hope you will be more civil going forward. Zippypie (talk) 23:15, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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FYI

Steven, this user is not David A. Wiley (I confirmed via email). I've blocked and will revert the rest of the edits. Thanks for catching this! -Pete (talk) 17:24, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Pete! Steven Walling • talk 18:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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Template:History of Christianity

Thank for your interest in the Template:History of Christianity and your block to enforce discussion. I did not, however, understand your advice to take my "disputes there... to the Talk page", etc. since that is what I have been doing. tahc ^chat 18:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Posting to the talk page but also continuing the reverts is not really ending the edit war. The point is to cease back-and-forth editing until the discussion has reached some kind of conclusion. If the other person will not engage in the discussion or you have reached an impasse, ask for a third opinion. Steven Walling • talk 18:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Steven,

Thank you for contacting me about the goat breed articles. I have responded to your comments on the corresponding talk page.

Neelix (talk) 22:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Steven,

It has been three days since I responded to your comments, and I see that you have been editing other articles even up to today. We aren't going to come to an agreement on these articles if we don't discuss them. If no objections are made over the coming couple days, I think that I would be justified in reverting your bold splits.

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@Neelix: thanks for the courtesy reminder. I'll reply on the talk page now. Steven Walling • talk 18:33, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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seen? --Isderion (talk) 22:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the poke. Will reply today. :) Steven Walling • talk 18:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

really? :) --Isderion (talk) 16:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Whack!

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Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

...William 19:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh thanks, dick. Steven Walling • talk 19:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

A comment

Incidentally, if you want your actions to be clearly understood as being taken in a personal capacity [5], then it might be helpful if you avoid going out of your way to mention that you work for the WMF when explaining them. Like, for example, in your message to me announcing that I had been reverted.

Oh, and for the record, admins are generally encouraged to discuss issues first rather than simply reverting each other. I announced my change at WP:VE/F, and would have been happy to discuss it further, but you felt a need to revert first and then tell me how I was clearly wrong. Frankly, your approach to this issue felt more than a little rude. Dragons flight (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I apologize, sincerely, if you felt slighted or disrespected in any way. Since you didn't mention any discussion in your comment, I could only assume you were being bold as you said, and had not announced/discussed the change beforehand. In the spirit of WP:BRD and because this is a primary action on the edit interface, I do think the right thing to do was to revert for now and discuss the proposal to change it. Steven Walling • talk 04:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

"I could only assume...", except that's not true. You could have asked, or you could have checked what links here on the message, or you could have checked WP:VE/F, or could have checked the bugzilla entry which mentions that there was discussion on VE/F, etc. Editing the interface at all is "bold", but is seems unreasonable to assume that anyone would change the interface without having a reason for it, which you could have learned with a little effort.

On the broader point, I agree that ultimately the right thing to do is have the VE team change the default label, but with hundreds of bugs to work on I didn't imagine something like this was high on their priority list. On the other hand this is one of the few frequently repeated UI complaints that we can locally do something about without having to wait for the VE team. I would have assumed that enwiki would settle on something, probably with some iteration, and then the VE team would probably copy us. Personally, I don't see the point of reverting back to a bad interface just to hold a discussion that might hopefully make the interface even better. We can do these things iteratively. Dragons flight (talk) 05:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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You have a reply at User talk:GabrielD2

Thanks for your reply re: "new user mode". I have responded to the original Teahouse post, and also have a direct reply to your message on my talk page.

In short, this whole experience has turned up a number of resources, and I see the challenge, at this point as: how do we put this motley mess of widgets together into a reasonable toolkit? I see your tool, "new user mode" as an important, integral part of that toolkit, and that the problem is not so much the tool itself, but rather in how the tool was being used.

I know I've got some pretty lengthy replies, so please, no rush, but when you have a moment, you're welcome to consider my thoughts and see if we can work together on a simple but effective solution.

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I'm giving both of you a whack for that exchange on my user talk page. I'm putting you on guard that I'm armed, and I'm ready to use it. I will get the two of you to play nice. You may check out my response ... you will find that I've decided to take preemptive action, and established a Debate Arena to make sure the discussion that the two of you clearly need to have, with each other, happens fairly, fully, and that neither of you get hurt in the process. I know full well you're really on the same side of things, but I've got to get the both of you to see that. I'm doing this for your own protection. I'm not going to let a discussion turn abusive on my page. I insist on treating the both of you, fairly, equally, and professionally. We will get to a resolution of your differences. I know both of you mean well ... you just can't see that, yet. You will, trust me. I've been an underdog in an unfair fight far too long to let it happen to someone else.

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I don't know if you've seen my previous comments on your exchange or not, but if you have, then I must apologize that I won't be able to moderate your discussion. Unfortunately, I've gotten some bad news and will have to be leaving soon. Thanks for your help, and I wish you the best of luck in your future affairs. GabrielD2 (talk) 12:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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@Khazar2: Hey, many thanks for the award! This is a great looking award, and super fun to get. Is there a list of potential winners out there, so I could help spread some appreciation for others? As for the Million Award... I'm just fine with a mere half. ;) Steven Walling • talk 05:04, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome! I've been finding winners by consulting Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject and User:West.andrew.g/Popular_pages and looking for popular pages that have reached GA or FA-level; from there people have been giving me additional tips for qualifying articles by themselves or others. If you wanted to take a look at a list in either place and hand some out, I'd really appreciate it. And thanks again for all your great work on ovine topics-- Khazar2 (talk) 11:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - September 2013

The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter
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The project has been updated with new Goals, with target numbers of 500 each for Featured and Good articles, and for 10% of all project-related articles to be improved to B-Class or better.

500 good articles: 81.4% complete

500 featured articles: 10.8% complete

10% of all articles rated B-Class or better: 46.3% complete

A new Welcome squad section has been added to the project's main page. If interested, please sign on!

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The project's Top-level importance nominations page has several new entries. New additions and discussion are always welcome.

A proposal to create a Chocolate Task Force is currently being discussed.

The new ' was created in June 2013.

The Coffee portal was significantly expanded in May–June 2013.

WikiProject Breakfast was created in April 2013. Check it out!

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FA		7	8	16			31
FL		2					2
FM					60		60
A	1						1
GA	6	9	31	68			114
B	11	10	28	29			78
C	54	296	507	677		364	1,898
Start	40	412	1,255	3,014		2,002	6,723
Stub	4	99	726	4,306		5,049	10,184
List	6	42	49	131	31	71	330
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Disambig					55		55
File					682		682
Portal					427		427
Project					193	1	194
Redirect					391		391
Template					475		475
Assessed	122	877	2,604	8,241	3,838	7,487	23,169
Unassessed						2,894	2,894
Total	122	877	2,604	8,241	3,838	10,381	26,063

Posted by Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:08, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Takes Portland 2013!

WIKIPEDIA TAKES PORTLAND 2013!
You're invited to participate in the upcoming "Wikipedia Takes Portland" campaign, to be held during the month of September. The local campaign occurs annually in conjunction with Wikipedia Takes America and Wiki Loves Monuments in the United States. Photographing sites included on the National Register of Historic Places (NRHP) is the main focus of Wikipedia Takes Portland. In typical Wikipedia fashion, you can work individually or create a team.
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Sorry so late!

Hi Steven, I just realized you sent me a welcome/thank you msg many months ago - I meant to respond, though I guess I don't hit send..or rather, 'Save Page' - with enough gusto..you got to really click it! haha. Hope all is wellKtwestside (talk) 09:18, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hey Steven. Thanks for all of your work on the 'pedia! I don't think you'd mind if I pointed you in that direction. Thanks again. Best regards! Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I haven't been completely ignoring this, just haven't had time to compose the serious reply the thread merits. It's a very interesting topic. :) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 01:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Laurel Lodged topic ban editing Roman Catholic church pages

I've been having similar issues with her edit wars for over a year in the catspace for Roman Catholic dioceses. She keeps trying to depreciate the established category structure in favor of her own which removes the 'Roman Catholic church', and asserts that the Catholic church didn't exist prior to the reformation. This is problematic for the wikipedia as a whole. She's been sufficiently persistent to get into edit wars and disputes with a variety of editors on these pages. Would you support a topic ban? I'd like to start a request for comment on her editing and editing habits. I'm sure she's a fine editor - just not on Roman Catholic pages where she continually pushes for her POV. Thanks for your time. Benkenobi18 (talk) 02:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - October 2013

	The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter Volume III, no. 2, October 2013
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An updated front page, A new sister project and updates to our DYK page

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The project's main page has been redesigned and now has many new features; be sure to stop by and take a look!
At Wikimedia Commons, the new WikiProject Food and Beverages was created by User:Willscrlt on September 5, 2013. Check it out, and feel free to join if interested.
The project now has a new bot-generated list of new food and drink articles at AlexNewArtBot – New food and drink articles. A link to the page has been added to the project's main page.
The project's DYK articles page was significantly expanded by User:Miyagawa and User:Jerem43 in September 2013.
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Food and drink articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
Quality	Top	High	Mid	Low	NA	???	Total
FA		7	15	32			54
FL		2		2			4
FM					141		141
GA	18	31	77	281			407
B	56	233	343	716		87	1,435
C	77	404	1,003	3,578		547	5,609
Start	22	327	1,676	12,057		3,904	17,986
Stub		17	532	9,022		4,933	14,504
List	12	71	115	545	23	275	1,041
Category					8,931		8,931
Disambig					218		218
File					3,025		3,025
Portal					811		811
Project					440		440
Redirect		10	73	639	2,862		3,584
Template					1,047		1,047
NA				1	20		21
Other					208		208
Assessed	185	1,102	3,834	26,873	17,726	9,746	59,466
Unassessed				13		1,964	1,977
Total	185	1,102	3,834	26,886	17,726	11,710	61,443
WikiWork factors (?)		ω = 204,509			Ω = 5.11

Delivered by Northamerica1000^(talk) 21:01, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Vo Nguyen Giap's first wife

Hi I have checked the source on this (McDonald's bio of Giap, based largely on interviews with him)and confirmed that the name of Giap's first wife appears there as it does in the Wikipedia article. It may of course be wrong as I don't believe McDonald spoke Vietnamese; he was basically a military historian so the detail's of Giap's early family life were perhaps not of primary importance to him; or he might easily have got his notes mixed up over such a detail. Anyway, that's what that source says. If there are more reliable sources which give a different name then I've no problem with changing it. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 08:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Vo Nguyen Giap's first wife

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Wikipedia Edit-athon!

WIKI LOVES LIBRARIES 2013!
You're invited to attend the upcoming "Wiki Loves Libraries" edit-athon. The event will be held from 1–4pm on Sunday, October 13, 2013 at the Portland Art Museum's Crumpacker Family Library, located on the second floor of the Museum's Mark Building (formerly the Masonic Temple). The edit-athon will focus on the local arts community (but you can work on other topics as well!). It will also kick off the Oregon Arts Project, an on-wiki initiative to improve coverage of the arts in Oregon. Details and signup here!

Just a reminder, in case you know anyone who might be interested! --Another Believer _(Talk) 15:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for mistaken posting

Hi sorry to bother you with my repeated posts earlier. I misunderstood something posted on another page so should not have bothered you with this at all. Also your talk page kept telling me my message could not be posted, so I kept resending it.

Sorry to be nuisance- please ignore the lot.

Mccapra (talk) 16:20, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

@Mccapra: It's totally okay. I know talk pages are confusing as all heck. Steven Walling • talk 06:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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I presume you watchlist The Livestock Conservancy, if not, you may want to do so. See also Talk:Equus Survival Trust. Montanabw^(talk) 23:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Steven, Happy New Year! I was delighted to see you at RFPP a few days ago; I'm always happy to see an old name! :) Best. Acalamari 11:46, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

@Acalamari: Long time no see! Many thanks for the nice message, and a happy new year to you too. I was trying to help out doing admin patrol at RFPP over the holidays, since things can get backed up with more people away. Hope you're doing well? Steven Walling • talk 04:56, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks for the RFPP help. :) Yes, I'm well, too! I'm still quite active around here. Congratulations on the work you do at the Foundation itself! Acalamari 10:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Banana slug identification?

Hello Steven, I remember you of course. I am not at all expert on the West Coast non-marine fauna, but I would say this handsome beast is indeed a banana slug -- sometimes they are all tan, brown, or tan with darker spots; they don't have to be yellow. However there are actually three species of banana slug, all of them in the genus Ariolimax. Since you were in or near redwood forest by the coast (?) this might possibly be Ariolimax columbianus, but I have to dash off to see someone this morning and will have to look up more info later today or tomorrow. Talk to you later, Invertzoo (talk) 14:29, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Again my guess is Ariolimax columbianus. Supposedly the position of the pneumostome (breathing pore) behind the mid-point of the mantle (the saddle-shaped area) helps to identify this species, but it also may be the case that the three species can't be separated with certainty without dissection of the internal genitalia. How big was this critter? I believe that Ariolimax columbianus is the biggest of the three banana slug species. More info here. Invertzoo (talk) 13:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

@Invertzoo: Many thanks for investigating this for me! I really do appreciate it. I'll categorize the image accordingly. :) Steven Walling • talk 03:42, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure Steven, sorry I could not be more precise on the species level. Invertzoo (talk) 21:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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