User talk:Quetzal1964/Archive 2
This is a subpage of Quetzal1964's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments. |
|
Minor typo
[edit]Hi, Quetzal1964!
Two days ago, you added years of description to some vespid genera (here); thanks! Unhappily, you happened to type an extra digit for the last year you added; and since I do not have access to your sources, I cannot correct it. Regards, JoergenB (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- JoergenB Thanks for spotting that, its corrected now. Quetzal1964 (talk) 19:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 27 January 2020
[edit]- From the editor: Reaching six million articles is great, but we need a moratorium
- News and notes: Six million articles on the English language Wikipedia
- Special report: The limits of volunteerism and the gatekeepers of Team Encarta
- Arbitration report: Three cases at ArbCom
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2019
- News from the WMF: Capacity Building: Top 5 Themes from Community Conversations
- Community view: Our most important new article since November 1, 2015
- From the archives: A decade of The Signpost, 2005-2015
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Japan: a wikiProject Report
February with Women in Red
[edit] February 2020, Volume 6, Issue 2, Numbers 150, 151, 152, 154, 155
|
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
[edit]Hi. The Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs! I don't know if you work on nature stubs found in the British Isles but as you were so productive in the African Destubathon I thought I should alert you!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:22, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
January 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- January 2020—Issue 010
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Megarachne by Ichthyovenator |
Wolf by LittleJerry |
News at a Glance |
|
Vital Articles | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The vital articles project on English Wikipedia began in 2004 when an editor transferred a list from Meta-Wiki: List of articles every Wikipedia should have. The first incarnation of the list became what is now level 3. As of 2019, there are 5 levels of vital articles:
Each level is inclusive of all previous levels, meaning that the 1,000 Level 3 articles include those listed on Levels 2 and 1. Below is an overview of the distribution of vital articles, and the quality of the articles. While the ultimate goal of the vital articles project is to have Featured-class articles, I also considered Good Articles to be "complete" for the purposes of this list. Animals (1,148 designated out of projected 2,400)
Plants, fungi, and other organisms (510 designated out of projected 1,200)
Many articles have yet to be designated for Tree of Life taxonomic groups, with 1,942 outstanding articles to be added. Anyone can add vital articles to the list! Restructuring may be necessary, as the only viruses included as of yet are under the category "Health". The majority of vital articles needing improvement are level 5, but here are some outstanding articles from the other levels:
· Abiogenesis · Death · Cell · Human evolution · Organism · Zoology · Cattle · Dog · Reptile · Flower · Nut · Seed · Algae · Eukaryote · Biodiversity · Extinction · Photosynthesis
· Sexual dimorphism · Feather · Fur · Hair · Gill · Plant anatomy · Plant morphology · Berry · Leaf · Root · Stoma · Shrub · Plant stem · Bark · Trunk · Epidermis · Ground tissue · Meristem · Vascular tissue · Vascular cambium · Hypha · Mycelium |
January DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
Hi. Can you improve this? I learned very little about it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:45, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
March 2020 at Women in Red
[edit] March 2020, Volume 6, Issue 3, Numbers 150, 151, 156, 157, 158, 159
Online events:
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 19:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
The Signpost: 1 March 2020
[edit]- From the editor: The ball is in your court
- News and notes: Alexa ranking down to 13th worldwide
- Special report: More participation, more conversation, more pageviews
- Discussion report: Do you prefer M or P?
- Arbitration report: Two prominent administrators removed
- Community view: The Incredible Invisible Woman
- In focus: History of The Signpost, 2015–2019
- From the archives: Is Wikipedia for sale?
- Traffic report: February articles, floating in the dark
- Gallery: Feel the love
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
- Opinion: Wikipedia is another country
- Humour: The Wilhelm scream
February 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- February 2020—Issue 011
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Segnosaurus by FunkMonk |
Danuvius guggenmosi by Dunkleosteus77 |
News at a Glance |
|
The spread of coronavirus across Wikipedia | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
With the outbreak of a novel coronavirus dominating news coverage, Wikipedia content related to the virus has seen much higher interest. Tree of Life content of particular interest to readers has included viruses, bats, pangolins, and masked palm civets. Viruses saw the most dramatic growth in readership: Coronavirus, which was the 105th most popular virus article in December 2019 with about 400 views per day, averaged over a quarter million views each day of January 2020. Total monthly viewership of the top-10 virus articles ballooned from about 1.5 million to nearly 20 million.
From October 2019 – December 2019, the top ten most popular bat articles fluctuated among 16 different articles, with the December viewership of those 10 articles at 209,280. For January 2020, three articles broke into the top-10 that were not among the 16 articles of the prior three months: Bat as food, Horseshoe bat, and Bat-borne virus. Viewership of the top-10 bat articles spiked nearly 300% to 617,067 in January. While bats have been implicated as a possible natural reservoir of SARS-CoV-2, an intermediate host may be the bridge between bats and humans. Pangolins have been hypothesized as the intermediate host for the virus, causing a large spike in typical page views of 2-3k each day up to more than 60k in a day. Masked palm civets, the intermediate host of SARS, saw a modest yet noticeable spike in page views as well, from 100 to 300 views per day to as many as 5k views per day. With an increase in viewers came an increase in editors. In an interview, longtime virus editor Awkwafaba identified the influx of editors as the biggest challenge in editing content related to the coronavirus. They noted that these newcomers include "novices who make honest mistakes and get tossed about a bit in the mad activity" as well as "experienced editors who know nothing about viruses and are good researchers, yet aren't familiar with the policies of WP:ToL or WP:Viruses." Disruption also increased, with extended confirmed protection (also known as the 30/500 rule, which prevents editors with fewer than 30 days tenure and 500 edits from making edits and is typically used on a very small subset of Wikipedia articles) temporarily applied to Coronavirus and still active on Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data. New editors apparently seeking to correct misinformation continuously edited the article Bat as food to remove content related to China: Videos of Chinese people eating bat soup were misrepresented to be current or filmed in China, when at least one such video was several years old and filmed in Palau. However, reliable sources confirm that bats are eaten in China, especially Southern China, so these well-meaning edits were mostly removed. Another level of complexity was added by the fluctuating terminology of the virus. Over a dozen moves and merges were requested within WikiProject Viruses. To give you an idea of the musical chairs happening with article titles, here are the move histories of two articles: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
Awkwafaba noted that "the main authorities, WHO and ICTV, don't really have a process for speedily naming a virus or disease." Additionally, they have different criteria for naming. They said, "I remember in a move discussion from the article then called Wuhan coronavirus that a virus name cannot have a geographical location in it, but this is a WHO disease naming guideline, and not an ICTV virus naming rule. ICTV may have renamed Four Corners virus to Sin Nombre orthohantavirus but there are still plenty of official virus species names that don't abide by WHO guidelines." |
February DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
Clackmannan
[edit]Hi, can you source the distances in the lead? Use Google maps and check if you can. You might want to archive your talk page sometime, it's huge!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:20, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Dr Blofeld: Done (but I was looking for "as the crow flies" rather than via road) and I have set up an archive. Thanks Quetzal1964 (talk) 15:42, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
|
|
April 2020 at Women in Red
[edit] April 2020, Volume 6, Issue 4, Numbers 150, 151, 159, 160, 161, 162
Online events:
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Crimea Pass
[edit]Hi, lulu.com is a "vanity press" source, often using wiki content, can you replace it, cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Dr Blofeld: Done, from Hansard no less. What about Gladsmuir and Andrena barbilabris? I make my counts out as 137 counties (50 England 33 Scotland 35 Ireland 22 Wales) and a total of 168 articles (50 England 61 Scotland 22 Wales 35 Ireland) as @ 17:13 31 March 2020. I will have all the Welsh counties done today and will move onto the island my paternal ancestors came from. Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:35, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Fergus McFadden. , can you fix dates? Feel free to update the score to whatever is correct.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 29 March 2020
[edit]- From the editors: The bad and the good
- News and notes: 2018 Wikipedian of the year blocked
- WikiProject report: WikiProject COVID-19: A WikiProject Report
- Special report: Wikipedia on COVID-19: what we publish and why it matters
- In the media: Blocked in Iran but still covering the big story
- Discussion report: Rethinking draft space
- Arbitration report: Unfinished business
- In focus: "I have been asked by Jeffrey Epstein …"
- Community view: Wikimedia community responds to COVID-19
- From the archives: Text from Wikipedia good enough for Oxford University Press to claim as own
- Traffic report: The only thing that matters in the world
- Gallery: Visible Women on Wikipedia
- News from the WMF: Amid COVID-19, Wikimedia Foundation offers full pay for reduced hours, mobilizes all staff to work remote, and waives sick time
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
The Great Britain and Ireland Destubathon
[edit]WINNER of The March 2020 Great Britain and Ireland Destubathon | |
WINNER of the The Great Britain and Ireland Destubathon with all 137 counties covered. Incredible achievement, you've been amazing!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC) |
March 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- March 2020—Issue 012
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Argentinosaurus by Slate Weasel and Jens Lallensack |
Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations by Britishfinance |
News at a glance |
|
A new WikiProject responding to the pandemic | ||
The newest Tree of Life WikiProject is about a taxon that is dominating the headlines, Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, and its many effects. We interviewed Another Believer, the founder of WikiProject COVID-19. This interview has been edited for length. Find the full interview here.
Number of participants of WikiProject Covid-19
Thank you to Another Believer for your time, both in this interview and in this project. Interested readers can join WikiProject COVID-19. And please stay safe and healthy out there. --Awkwafaba |
March DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
Hi, if you desrtub any articles OK to add them to this? I don't mind adding them from the African list if you don't want to list them twice. I was hoping to get that off to a good start once people have recovered from the contest.† Encyclopædius 12:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 26 April 2020
[edit]- News and notes: Unbiased information from Ukraine's government?
- In the media: Coronavirus, again and again
- Discussion report: Redesigning Wikipedia, bit by bit
- Featured content: Featured content returns
- Arbitration report: Two difficult cases
- Traffic report: Disease the Rhythm of the Night
- Recent research: Trending topics across languages; auto-detecting bias
- Opinion: Trusting Everybody to Work Together
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
- In focus: Multilingual Wikipedia
- WikiProject report: The Guild of Copy Editors
May 2020 at Women in Red
[edit] May 2020, Volume 6, Issue 5, Numbers 150, 151, 163, 164, 165, 166
Online events:
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 20:59, 29 April 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
April 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- April 2020—Issue 013
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Danuvius guggenmosi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by J Milburn |
Lythronax by FunkMonk, Lythronaxargestes and IJReid |
News at a glance |
|
Tree of Life's growing featured content | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Inspired by a March 2020 post at WikiProject Medicine detailing the growth of Featured Articles over time, we decided to reproduce that table here, adding a second table showing the growth of Good Articles. Tree of Life articles are placed in the "Biology" category for FAs, which has seen a growth of 381% since 2008. Only two other subjects had a greater growth than Biology: Business, economics, and finance; and Warfare. Percentage Growth in FA Categories, 2008–2019, Legend: Considerably above average, Above average, Average Below average , Considerably below average, Poor
*subset of natural sciences Unsurprisingly, the number of GAs has increased more rapidly than the number of FAs. Organisms, which is a subcategory of Natural sciences, has seen a GA growth of 755% since 2008, besting the Natural sciences overall growth of 530%. While Warfare had far and away the most significant growth of GAs, it's a clear outlier relative to other categories. |
April DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
June 2020 at Women in Red
[edit]Women in Red June 2020, Volume 6, Issue 6, Numbers 150, 151, 167, 168, 169
Online events:
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 17:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Hi, can you improve that? Looks like it should be nuked and restarted!† Encyclopædius 19:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Anthiadinae
[edit]A tag has been placed on Category:Anthiadinae requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 14:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 31 May 2020
[edit]- From the editor: Meltdown May?
- News and notes: 2019 Picture of the Year, 200 French paid editing accounts blocked, 10 years of Guild Copyediting
- Discussion report: WMF's Universal Code of Conduct
- Featured content: Weathering the storm
- Arbitration report: Board member likely to receive editing restriction
- Traffic report: Come on and slam, and welcome to the jam
- Gallery: Wildlife photos by the book
- News from the WMF: WMF Board announces Community Culture Statement
- Recent research: Automatic detection of covert paid editing; Wiki Workshop 2020
- Community view: Transit routes and mapping during stay-at-home order downtime
- WikiProject report: Revitalizing good articles
- On the bright side: 500,000 articles in the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia
May 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- May 2020—Issue 014
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Gigantorhynchus by Mattximus |
News at a glance |
|
Interview with Jts1882 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This month we're joined by Jts1882, who is active in depicting evolutionary relationship of taxa via cladograms. Part of this includes responding to cladogram requests, where interested editors can have cladograms made without using the templates themselves. How did you come to be interested in systematics? Are you interested in systematics broadly, or is there a particular group you're most fond of? As long as I can remember I’ve been interested in nature, starting with the animals and plants in the garden, school grounds, and local wood, and then more general wildlife worldwide. An interest in how things are classified grew from this. I like things to be organised and understanding the relationships between things and systems (not just living things) is a big part of that. Biology was always my favourite subject in school and took up a disproportionate part of my time. My interest in systematics is broad as I’d like to comprehend the whole tree of life, but the cat family is my favourite group. What's the background behind cladogram requests? I see that it isn't a very old part of the Tree of Life Well I can’t take any credit for the cladogram requests page, although I help out there sometimes. It was created by IJReid and there are several people who have helped there more than me. I think the motivation is that creating cladograms requires a knowledge of the templates that is daunting for many editors. It was one way of helping people who want to focus on content creation. My main contribution to the cladograms is converting the {{clade}} template to use a Lua module. The template code was extremely difficult to follow and had to be repetitive (I can only admire the efforts of those who got the thing to work in the first place). The conversion to Lua made it more efficient, allowed larger and deeper cladograms, plus facilitating the introduction of new features. The cladogram request page was recently the venue for discussion on making time calibrated cladograms, which is now possible, if not particularly user friendly. What advice do you have for an editor who wants to learn how to make cladograms? The same advice I would give to someone facing any computer problem, just try it out. Start by taking existing code for a cladogram and make changes yourself. The main advice would be to format it properly so indents match the brackets vertically. Of course, not everyone wants to learn and if someone prefers to focus on article content there is the cladogram request page. Examples of cladograms Jts1882 has created, showing different proposed clades for Neoaves
Do you have any personal projects or goals you're working towards on Wikipedia? As I said I like organisation and systems. So I find efforts like the automated taxobox system and {{taxonbar}} appealing. I would like to see more reuse of the major phylogenetic trees on Wikipedia with more use of consensus trees on the higher taxa. Too often they get edited based on one recent report and/or without proper citation. Animals and bilateria are examples where this is a problem. Towards this I have been working on a system of phylogeny templates that can be reused flexibly. The {{Clade transclude}} template allows selective transclusion, so the phylogenetic trees on one page can be reused with modifications, i.e. can be pruned and grafted, used with or without images, with or without collapsible elements, etc. I have an example for the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group classification (see {{Phylogeny/APG IV}}) and one for squamates that also includes collapsible elements (see {{Phylogeny/Squamata}}). A second project is to have a modular reference system for taxonomic resources. I have made some progress along this lines with the {{BioRef}} template. This started off simply as a way of hardlinking to Catalog of Fishes pages and I’ve gradually expanded it to cover other groups (e..g. FishBase, AmphibiaWeb and Amphibian Species of the World, Reptile Database, the Mammalian Diversity Database). The modular nature is still rudimentary and needs a rewrite before it is ready for wider use. What would surprise your fellow editors to learn about your life off-Wikipedia? I don’t think there is anything particularly surprising or interesting about my life. I’ve had an academic career as a research scientist but I don't think anyone could guess the area from my Wikipedia edits. I prefer to work on areas where I am learning at the same time. This why I spend more time with neglected topics (e.g. mosses at the moment). I start reading and then find that I’m not getting the information I want. Anything else you'd like us to know? My interest in the classification of things goes beyond biology. I am fascinated by mediaeval attempts to classify knowledge, such as Bacon in his The Advancement of Learning and Diderot and d’Alembert in their Encyclopédie. They were trying to come up with a universal scheme of knowledge just as the printing press was allowing greater dissemination of knowledge. With the internet we are seeing a new revolution in knowledge dissemination. Just look at how we could read research papers on the COVID virus within weeks of its discovery. With an open internet, everyone has access, not just those with the luxury of books at home or good libraries. Sites like the Biodiversity Heritage Library allow you to read old scientific works without having to visit dusty university library stack rooms, while the taxonomic and checklist databases provide instant information on millions of living species. In principle, the whole world can now find out about anything, even if Douglas Adams warned we might be disinclined to do so. This is why I like Wikipedia, with all its warts, it’s a means of organising the knowledge on the internet. In just two decades it’s become a first stop for knowledge and hopefully a gateway to more specialised sources. Perhaps developing this latter aspect, beyond providing good sources for what we say, is the next challenge for Wikipedia. |
May DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
Enwebb (talk) 19:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
July 2020 at Women in Red
[edit]Women in Red / July 2020, Volume 6, Issue 7, Numbers 150, 151, 170, 171, 172, 173
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 16:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
The Signpost: 28 June 2020
[edit]- News and notes: Progress at Wikipedia Library and Wikijournal of Medicine
- Community view: Community open letter on renaming
- Gallery: After the killing of George Floyd
- In the media: Part collaboration and part combat
- Discussion report: Community reacts to WMF rebranding proposals
- Featured content: Sports are returning, with a rainbow
- Arbitration report: Anti-harassment RfC and a checkuser revocation
- Traffic report: The pandemic, alleged murder, a massacre, and other deaths
- News from the WMF: We stand for racial justice
- Recent research: Wikipedia and COVID-19; automated Wikipedia-based fact-checking
- Humour: Cherchez une femme
- On the bright side: For what are you grateful this month?
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Black Lives Matter
Hope you're well. I don't know if this interests you but can you find enough to destub it?† Encyclopædius 10:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Encyclopædius I can't find anything on this genus that isn't behind a paywall. Quetzal1964 (talk) 16:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking. Getting tired of paywalls, it's getting ridiculous in the US!† Encyclopædius 16:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Quetzal1964: What's the paywall? Are you referring to published scholarly articles? If so I can check if I can get access. --SuperJew (talk) 12:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- SuperJew Sorry, I missed your offer of help last month. I'll look into it again and get back to you. Quetzal1964 (talk) 07:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- No worries! Let me know :) --SuperJew (talk) 08:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- SuperJew Sorry, I missed your offer of help last month. I'll look into it again and get back to you. Quetzal1964 (talk) 07:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Quetzal1964: What's the paywall? Are you referring to published scholarly articles? If so I can check if I can get access. --SuperJew (talk) 12:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking. Getting tired of paywalls, it's getting ridiculous in the US!† Encyclopædius 16:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Classifying fish per country
[edit]Was just wondering on what basis are you classifying the country of each fish on the destub challenge? --SuperJew (talk) 12:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- SuperJew If the species is endemic to a country then that is easy, I choose that country. If it is found in more than one country them I may choose the country the type locality is located in, I also may select a country named in the text where the species may be commercially or culturally important. Alternatively, I may pick any country of occurrence, for example if a species distribution is given as the Red Sea then I may pick any of the countries with a Red Sea coastline to allocate the article to. This is the same way of allocating articles on natural history subjects I, and others, have used in previous destubbing challenges. I am supporting this destubbing challenge while updating fish articles and I am currently working through the Perciformes which will take me longer than this summer. Destubbing actually slows this down as I now expand the articles where I can rather than just updating to Speciesbox, citing the iucn template, adding synonyms, etc.. The last one article I destubbed was Epinephelus latifasciatus, which occurs in the Persian Gulf, so I decided to allocate it to Iran. I could have allocated it to Japan where the type locality is, India, Sri Lanka, Australia or Taiwan which are all mentioned in the article or any countries with a coastline on the Red Sea, Gulf of Oman or Persian Gulf, but I chose Iran.Quetzal1964 (talk) 07:35, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Cool thanks for the explanation :) (I was mostly curious) --SuperJew (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
August 2020 at Women in Red
[edit]Women in Red | August 2020, Volume 6, Issue 8, Numbers 150, 151, 173, 174, 175
|
--Rosiestep (talk) 18:51, 26 July 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
June/July 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- June and July 2020—Issue 015
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Canada lynx by Sainsf |
News at a glance |
|
Categorizing life with DexDor |
DexDor is a WikiGnome with a particular interest in article categorization, including how organisms are categorized.
|
June DYKs |
|
July DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
Delivered on behalf of Enwebb (talk) 16:33, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 2 August 2020
[edit]- Special report: Wikipedia and the End of Open Collaboration?
- COI and paid editing: Some strange people edit Wikipedia for money
- News and notes: Abstract Wikipedia, a hoax, sex symbols, and a new admin
- In the media: Dog days gone bad
- Discussion report: Fox News, a flight of RfAs, and banning policy
- Featured content: Remembering Art, Valor, and Freedom
- Traffic report: Now for something completely different
- News from the WMF: New Chinese national security law in Hong Kong could limit the privacy of Wikipedia users
- Obituaries: Hasteur and Brian McNeil
Re: Science Direct
[edit]Science Direct is just a website, it contains all sorts of things. Asking whether it's reliable is like asking whether Google.com is a reliable source. "Science Direct Topics" is merely a collection of automatically generated snippets from random papers. Have you actually read what it is about and could you please tell me under which category of Wikipedia:Reliable sources do you think it would fall? Thanks, Nemo 15:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Nemo bis Thank you I looked at it and it claims that it provides "credible, accurate and relevant content", it is a summary of papers. So, if you were to explain it to someone who was, as we say, hard of understanding, you would say that they should cite the papers referred to on the summary rather than the summary, is that correct? Quetzal1964 (talk) 17:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely. Especially as those snippets may vary, so in a year or two the reader may not find at all what you were referring to. I found many such cases already... Nemo 14:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
September Women in Red edithons
[edit]Women in Red | September 2020, Volume 6, Issue 9, Numbers 150, 151, 176, 177
|
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
The Signpost: 30 August 2020
[edit]- News and notes: The high road and the low road
- In the media: Storytelling large and small
- Featured content: Going for the goal
- Special report: Wikipedia's not so little sister is finding its own way
- Op-Ed: The longest-running hoax
- Traffic report: Heart, soul, umbrellas, and politics
- News from the WMF: Fourteen things we’ve learned by moving Polish Wikimedia conference online
- Recent research: Detecting spam, and pages to protect; non-anonymous editors signal their intelligence with high-quality articles
- Arbitration report: A slow couple of months
- From the archives: Wikipedia for promotional purposes?
August 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- September 2021—Issue 016
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Horseshoe bat by Enwebb |
Black-and-red broadbill by AryKun |
Hoax taxon sniffed out after nearly fifteen years |
Cross posted from the Signpost On August 7, WikiProject Palaeontology member Rextron discovered a suspicious taxon article, Mustelodon, which was created in November 2005. The article lacked references and the subsequent discussion on WikiProject Palaeontology found that the alleged type locality (where the fossil was first discovered) of Lago Nandarajo "near the northern border of Panama" was nonexistent. In fact, Panama does not even really have a northern border, as it is bounded along the north by the Caribbean Sea. No other publications or databases mentioned Mustelodon, save a fleeting mention in a 2019 book that presumably followed Wikipedia, Felines of the World. The article also appeared in four other languages, Catalan, Spanish, Dutch, and Serbian. In Serbian Wikipedia, a note at the bottom of the page warned: "It is important to note here that there is no data on this genus in the official scientific literature, and all attached data on the genus Mustelodon on this page are taken from the English Wikipedia and are the only known data on this genus of mammals, so the validity of this genus is questionable." Editors took action to alert our counterparts on other projects, and these versions were removed also. As the editor who reached out to Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia, it was somewhat challenging to navigate these mostly foreign languages (I have a limited grasp of Spanish). I doubted that the article had very many watchers, so I knew I had to find some WikiProjects where I could post a machine translation advising of the hoax, and asking that users follow local protocols to remove the article. I was surprised to find, however, that Catalan Wikipedia does not tag articles for WikiProjects on talk pages, meaning I had to fumble around to find what I needed (turns out that WikiProjects are Viquiprojectes in Catalan!) Mustelodon remains on Wikidata, where its "instance of" property was swapped from "taxon" to "fictional taxon". How did this article have such a long lifespan? Early intervention is critical for removing hoaxes. A 2016 report found that a hoax article that survives its first day has an 18% chance of lasting a year.[1] Additionally, hoax articles tend to have longer lifespans if they are in inconspicuous parts of Wikipedia, where they do not receive many views. Mustelodon was only viewed a couple times a day, on average. Mustelodon survived a brush with death three years into its lifespan. The article was proposed for deletion in September 2008, with a deletion rationale of "No references given; cannot find any evidence in peer-reviewed journals that this alleged genus actually exists". Unfortunately, the proposed deletion was contested and the template removed, though the declining editor did not give a rationale. Upon its rediscovery in August 2020, Mustelodon was tagged for speedy deletion under CSD G3 as a "blatant hoax". This was challenged, and an Articles for Deletion discussion followed. On 12 August, the AfD was closed as a SNOW delete. WikiProject Palaeontology members ensured that any trace of it was scrubbed from legitimate articles. The fictional mammal was finally, truly extinct. At the ripe old age of 14 years, 9 months, this is the longest-lived documented hoax on Wikipedia, topping the previous documented record of 14 years, 5 months, set by The Gates of Saturn, a fictitious television show, which was incidentally also discovered in August 2020. How do we discover other hoax taxa? Could we use Wikidata to discover taxa are not linked to databases like ITIS, Fossilworks, and others?
|
Spotlight with Mattximus |
This month's spotlight is with Mattximus, author of two Featured Articles and 29 Featured Lists at current count.
I think I have a compulsion to make lists, it doesn't show up in my real life, but online I secretly get a lot of satisfaction making orderly lists and tables. It's a bit of a secret of mine, because it doesn't manifest in any other part of my life. My background is in biology, so this was a natural (haha) fit.
This experiment was just to see if I could get any random article to FA status, so I picked the very first alphabetical animal species according to the taxonomy and made that attempt. Technically, there isn't enough information for a species page so I just merged the species into a genus and went from there. It was a fun exercise, but doing it alone is not the most fun so it's probably on pause for the foreseeable future. Note: Aporhynchus is the first alphabetical taxon as follows: Animalia, Acanthocephala, Archiacanthocephala, Apororhynchida, Apororhynchidae, Apororhynchus
I would recommend getting a good article nominated, then a featured list up before tackling the FA. Lists are a bit more forgiving but give you a taste of what standards to expect from FA. The most time consuming thing is proper citations so make sure that is in order before starting either.
My personality in real life does not match my wikipedia persona. I'm not a very organized, or orderly in real life, but the wikipedia pages I brought to FL or FA are all very organized. Maybe it's my outlet for a more free-flowing life as a scientist/teacher.
The fact that wikipedia exists free of profit motive and free for everyone really is something special and I encourage everyone to donate a few dollars to the cause. |
August DYKs |
|
You are receiving this because you added your name to the subscribers list of the WikiProject Tree of Life. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, please remove your name.
Delivered on behalf of Enwebb (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Acanthurus nigricauda
[edit]On 20 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Acanthurus nigricauda, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the colour of the blackstreak surgeonfish changes according to its mood? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Acanthurus nigricauda. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Acanthurus nigricauda), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:04, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
October editathons from Women in Red
[edit]Women in Red | October 2020, Volume 6, Issue 10, Numbers 150, 173, 178, 179
|
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Join the Months of African Cinema Global Contest!
[edit]Greetings!
The AfroCine Project invites you to join us again this October and November, the two months which are dedicated to improving content about the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.
Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand contents in Wikimedia projects which are connected to this scope. Kindly list your username under the participants section to indicate your interest in participating in this contest.
We would be awarding prizes to different categories of winners:
- Overall winner
- 1st - $500
- 2nd - $200
- 3rd - $100
- Diversity winner - $100
- Gender-gap fillers - $100
- Language Winners - up to $100*
We would be adding additional categories as the contest progresses, along with local prizes from affiliates in your countries. For further information about the contest, the prizes and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. Looking forward to your participation.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 19:22, 22nd September 2020 (UTC)
Ýou can opt-out of this annual reminder from The Afrocine Project by removing your username from this list
The Signpost: 27 September 2020
[edit]- Special report: Paid editing with political connections
- News and notes: More large-scale errors at a "small" wiki
- In the media: WIPO, Seigenthaler incident 15 years later
- Featured content: Life finds a Way
- Arbitration report: Clarifications and requests
- Traffic report: Is there no justice?
- Recent research: Wikipedia's flood biases
The Signpost: 27 September 2020
[edit]- Special report: Paid editing with political connections
- News and notes: More large-scale errors at a "small" wiki
- In the media: WIPO, Seigenthaler incident 15 years later
- Featured content: Life finds a Way
- Arbitration report: Clarifications and requests
- Traffic report: Is there no justice?
- Recent research: Wikipedia's flood biases
About Nothonotus starnesi - "Caney Fork Darter"?
[edit]The Tennessee Aquarium website identifies Etheostoma starnesi as the common name of "Caney Fork Darter" here. Same species with two common names? Two different species with the same common name, perhaps? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 13:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- Shirt58 Thank you for you comment. For articles on fishes, Wikipedia follows the taxonomy of Fishbase and this puts this species in Nothonotus so E. starnesi is a synonymous binomial. There is some variation among the relevant authorities as to whether Nothonotus is a subgenus of Etheostoma or a valid genus and what species are included.Quetzal1964 (talk) 14:40, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the your reply! The specific epithet - unlike more generic epithets like "elegans" and so on - "starnesi" would appear to indicate that the species in question was named in honour of a notable ichthyologist. I'll have a little look around and see what I can find. Pete "not an ichthyologist but definitely a queer fish" AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:35, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
November edith-a-thons from Women in Red
[edit]Women in Red | November 2020, Volume 6, Issue 11, Numbers 150, 173, 178, 180, 181
|
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Great Augusta Foote Arnold Wikipedia Site
[edit]Hello Quetzal1964, I like your Augusta Foote Arnold site because I like natural history, just as you do, especially birds, but also the history of natural history via biographies. I have been researching her life and times, as a way to know more deeply the origins of marine biology in the United States.
I am from California, Los Angeles, southern half of the state. Her book discusses California many times, but not as much as the Atlantic coast, as she was from there, so I wish there was more discussion by her about California. Nonetheless, there is a lot, if I also include the marine algae (seaweeds) and I would like to compile and scribe her California writings, so that California naturalists and marine biologists would be more aware of her early work.
Fully 23 years would elapse, nearly 25, until about 1927, when the next book on marine life of the seashore would be written again, by another woman, Myrtle Johnson, a university professor at San Diego State College.
And then, another 10 years before Between Pacific Tides, by Ed Ricketts, who Steinbeck praises and elevates, and I know that book biography of Ed Ricketts.
Both Ed and Myrtle barely mention Augusta Foote Arnold and her book. One feels that you can talk too highly of earlier books for fear that the new book will not be read, and so some ego is involved. Ed is not positive about the book by Johnson as well.
Wondering if you might do a wikipedia site about Blanche Trask?
Thank you for doing the wikipedia site about Augusta Foote Arnold.
Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 20:17, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 1 November 2020
[edit]- News and notes: Ban on IPs on ptwiki, paid editing for Tatarstan, IP masking
- In the media: Murder, politics, religion, health and books
- Book review: Review of Wikipedia @ 20
- Discussion report: Proposal to change board composition, In The News dumps Trump story
- Featured content: The "Green Terror" is neither green nor sufficiently terrifying. Worst Hallowe'en ever.
- Traffic report: Jump back, what's that sound?
- Interview: Joseph Reagle and Jackie Koerner
- News from the WMF: Meet the 2020 Wikimedian of the Year
- Recent research: OpenSym 2020: Deletions and gender, masses vs. elites, edit filters
- In focus: The many (reported) deaths of Wikipedia
Fascinating Idea for an Article on Extinct Birds of Britain
[edit]Hello Quetzal1964, Fascinating/nice to discover that you are working on an article on the Extinct Birds of Britain. I will be interested to know these bird, even if sad to learn about the birds that have gone extinct. Will you be discussing those that disappeared in different geologic time periods with fossils? Will compare the the difference of extirpated versus extinct species? Will you discuss that some of the birds are extant in Europe and can be recovered to Britain? Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 21:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
The Months of African Cinema Contest Continues in November!
[edit]Greetings,
Thank you very much for participating in the Months of African Cinema global contest/edit-a-thon, and thank you for your contributions so far.
It is already the middle of the contest and a lot have been achieved already! We have been able to get over 1,500 articles created in over fifteen (15) languages! This would not have been possible without your support and we want to thank you. If you have not yet listed your name as a participant in the contest page please do so.
Please make sure to list the articles you have created or improved in the article achievements' section of the contest page, so that they can be easily tracked. To be able to claim prizes, please also ensure to list your articles on the users by articles page. We would be awarding prizes to different categories of winners:
- Overall winner
- 1st - $500
- 2nd - $200
- 3rd - $100
- Diversity winner - $100
- Gender-gap filler - $100
- Language Winners - up to $100*
We are very excited about what has been achieved so far, but your contributions are still needed to further exceed all expectations! Let’s create more articles before the end of this contest, which is this November!!!
Thank you once again for being part of this global event! --Jamie Tubers (talk) 10:30, 06 November 2020 (UTC)
You can opt-out of this annual reminder from The Afrocine Project by removing your username from this list
Anthony Curtiss Red Link in Augusta Foote Arnold
[edit]Hello Quetzal,
I did a little research and found a goo biographical article on Anthony Curtiss. Given there is a red link for Anthony Curtiss on the Augusta Foote Arnold biography article, I was wondering if the time is good for a new wikipedia article on Anthony Curtiss, which would allow linking the the two biographies togehter, not unlike was done for Richard Knapp Allen.
I noticed that the blenny mentioned in the Augusta Foote Arnold in the Eponym section, also has an interesting article on the blenny, and there is a red link there about Anthony Curtiss, so a new article would be helpful there. I suspect there may be additional articles where Arnold Curtiss has red links, including articles on birds, butterflies and dragonflies, but I am not absolutely certain.
Here is some bio info on Anthony Curtiss that I found in an article about him. His birth name is Roy Abijah Curtiss, Jr. Birth: May 9, 1910 in New York. Death: July 12, 1981 in Pakistan.
There is a photo of Roy "Anthony" Curtiss as a young man.
I have found verification that Anthony Curtiss did name another species, not a fish, definitely for Augusta Foote Arnold whichis is "sand bug" now more commonly known as "sand crab" in the Hippa Family.
The short bio about Roy "Anthony" Curtiss is by Neal L. Everhuis. He is zoologist at the Bishop Museum in Honolulu, Hawaii. Article Title: Anthony Curtiss (1910-1981): a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Journal Name: Fly Times, Issue 44, April, 2010. Pages 13-16, photo on page 13. Article is onlin pdf at: http://www.nadsdiptera.org/News/FlyTimes/issue44.pdf
I believe we can list the expertise of Anthony Curtiss, not only as a zoologist but also due to his use of native Tahitian peoples names for Tahitian animals, which he learned from interviewing native Tahitian Polynesians, he is also an ethnographer (anthropologist) and an ethnobiologist (ethnozoologist).
Anthony Curtiss married a young Tahitian woman, and she had 7 children with Anthony, whom appear to all have moved back to USA with him, and later to Haiti, and back to the USA.
I hope you agree that there is enough information to begin a wikipedia article about Anthony Curtiss?
I plan to write to Neal Everhuis to see if I can find more information about Anthony Curtiss. And I already wrote to Chris, who is an ichthyologist that was cited in the Augusta Foote Arnold article as a citation/reference for his list of fish with Arnold in Latin in the species epithet, as "arnorldorum" and this is the same species epithet used for the "sand bug" that I listed above, on page 167 of the zoological article by Anthony Curtiss of circa 1938.
Interestingly, Chris wrote back to me, including two pdfs of articles by Arnold Curtiss on Tahiti Zoology. I would like to forward his email and two pdf to you if you are interested, but I would need your email address.
I hope you are well, and enjoying your new puppy. Be safe in these pandemic days.
Peace, 'Roy' Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 02:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
By the way, I just completed a 1000th edit, and I got a short note stating, thank you to me for being a good contributer/editor.
- Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk · contribs) Have a look at my Sandbox user:Quetzal1964/sandbox. Quetzal1964 (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Quetzal1964. I looked at your Sandbox, much thanks to to you for sharing the link as I am not familiar with Sandbox, but have heard of it, and may have tried to use it for an article 6 months ago, but failed. You are introducing me to more new editing understanding with the Sandbox.
Is the reference citation #3 not used in the right place with respect to geography, Tahiti versus New England?
I am so happy to see the Roy Curtiss bash (have I used the Scots term appropiately?).
I had missed the importance of his grandmother and roots to Islam and Pakistan, which is fascinating.
Lots of good discovery, such as cemetery grave having date of birth different then Fly Times article, albeit only 9 days difference. Use of Latin 'nom plume' is great and new to me, just barely awared of use of this term.
Is there a reason for stopping at Early Years? Possibly still a draft with more to do? Possibly asking me to add some info?
What about the photo?
May I refer to what you have done so far, overall as a bash as well, in Scots language?
With your interest in birds, nice to see that Anthony Curtiss studies birds, and I learned that he may have been the last person to see Tahiti Rail, now extinct. And he learned the Tahitian words for birds. I was saddened to learn that his library and papers were lost in a fire, hopefullly not linked to people of Massachusetts not liking him for his marriage and their children of mixed Tahitian ethnicity. Just sayin, perhaps totally unrelated, given also that Massachusetts is very liberal, not biased so much as other parts of the US.
By the way, I have been reading about fish and crabs at this time, to be more understanding of Anthony Curtiss and his natural history interests
I am very interested in links to Augusta Foote Arnold with regard to invertebrates, including his collecting and finding "sand bugs" which later evoled into being known as "mole crab" or "sand crab" and I have started contacting some crab biologists via email.
What can I do to help you with completing the article for submission?
Peace, 'Roy Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 23:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk · contribs) The article is a work in progress. The citation 3 is there because they mention this publication too. I will finish the drafting over the next few days. However, if you can add anything that you can find and reference then you should do so. If you have a reference for him potentially being the last person to see Tahiti Rail that would be a valuable and interesting addition. Potentially something we could put forward as a Did you know once the article is finished. There is a noted scientist called Roy Curtiss who I think is his son, if you could find something about this that would be helpful too.Quetzal1964 (talk) 13:19, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Quetzal1964, Ok, I see, and article is looking good. Looking forward to the finish.
I think you are saying that doing editing of what you have written is good for me to do? I would like to help. I noticed that there is redlink in your sandbox, so you do not use that, as it is not created. Just asking. I am not familiar nor keen to add edits there, as writing here works, and I can make edits directly to the draft article in the sandbox.
Sounds very cool to do a Did you know after article was finished on Tahiti Rail.
The son of Anthony Curtiss, named Roy Curtiss III, which I agree may be his son, so someone who I would like to write to here in the USA, to inquire about their relationship, and who would have been born in Tahiti, would be interesting as well. As you show, there is a blue link to this Roy Curtiss III?
In the References/cited section, I could only read the first page of the Zootaxa article link as one of the references by Evehnuis, Ng, and Eldridge in 2011. I would like to read the whole article. I hope and plan to write to all three of them, as their email addresses are provided.
Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 13:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Quetzal1964 again, I looked again a the sandbox for Anthony Curtiss, and noticed there are two questions and a link to submit the article.
"Finished writing a draft article? Are you ready to request an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?"
Do you get to choose the experienced editor, or is that random? I am curious and interested to know how that works?
Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 14:20, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk · contribs) I have finished the main drafting of the article.
I do not submit articles for review as I am, I think, an experienced editor, I did once but was told that my articles were of a standard which did not require review. I am using my sandbox because I did not expect to complete the article in one go.
If the photograph has no copyright issues then we can use it but I try to make sure that images are usable within Wikipedia’s policies before using them.
If Roy Curtiss III is Anthony Curtiss’s son then he probably remained in the US when his father went to Morocco as he graduated BSc from Cornell University in 1956. However, he was born in 1934 in New York, so there is some doubt around AC being his father. As I understand it, in America, if you are called Joe Bloggs and you name your son after yourself he is called Joe Bloggs Junior and if he does the same then your grandson is called Joe Bloggs III. Not something we do over here, numerals after names being restricted to monarchs. Quetzal1964 (talk) 17:03, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Quetzal1964, Congrats finishing the article. I will look at after finishing this reply to you. You are an experienced editor, and I am still junior editor, who has learned from you, thanks. Thanks also, for explaining further about the Sandbox. I agree with you about the photo. I will look into the status of photo rights, when I write to Neal Everhuis, the biologist at Hawaii, who wrote a biography about him that included the photo.
Agreement about Roy Curtiss III. I have seen a photo of him at retirement from University in Arizona. I see a full beard, certainly caucasion/white with no hint to me of mixed heritage with a Tahitian Polynesian mother. Perhaps, his mother was herself mixed with French heritage mixed. I have yet to write to Roy Curtiss III, who if arithmetic of Cornell graduation in 1950s, and photo, would indicate that he is in his 80s, so as a senior, he may not be able to communicate, or not wishing to speak of his family history. I will try later today hopefully to write that email to him.
Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 17:37, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk · contribs) I have found that his brothers Thomas Quinn Curtiss and Sidney Quinn Curtiss were notable and that Augustus John painted a portrait of his mother. According to newspapers at the time, his mother divorced his father for adultery with his secretary, he died in her home following the divorce. As part of the settlement his mother had a permanent apartment at a fixed rent at the Waldorf Astoria from 1921 to her death in 1974. I also found an obituary for another brother, Franklin, who was a selectman for 10 years and a Republican candidate for state representative in the 4th Berkshire District of Massachusetts in 1992 and who died in 2002. http://www.iberkshires.com/community/printerFriendly.php?ob_id=2374
Quetzal1964 (talk) 18:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Greetings Quetzal1964, Fascinating to learn more about the brothers of Anthony Curtiss. Is Augustus John also a brother, as reading the blue link biography as an artist, I did not see any mention of being with Curtiss family, and the surname "John" is not Curtiss. Could he have changed his name as being an artist, and perhaps not liking his father, and is this a reason that Anthony made this given name for himself, to distance from his father. Interesting that there may be a painting portrait by Augustus of his mother, which indicates caring about his mother. Curious to consider if Augustus was a name that links to Augusta Foote Arnold, with possibly their mother liking the seashore and shell collecting and a link to the coast near Massachusetts east coast? Pure speculation and myth and storytelling on my part?
I am interested, by the way, in Berkshire County of western Massachusetts, and visited there one time about 10 years ago, and I have researched biography of Ralph Hoffmann, of a german immigrant family that wrote a Flora of Berkshire County, and wrote many articles on birds of Berkshire County, and wrote a very important birdwatching field guide for northeast England, and became a teacher. I just did this sidebar but not related to the subject at hand of the Curtiss family.
The nice arrangement for their mother to live for a long time at the Waldorf Astoria in New York is fascinating, showing a strong link to her side of the family having been associated with New York. And I recall that the childhood of Anthony Curtiss was in part in New York, and that young Anthonly, perhaps with his mother alongside, visited and explored the American Museum of Natural History?
On and on. I had no idea when I first checked with you about Augusta Foote Arnold that we would go down a path about Anthony Curtiss. Would be nice to learn if the Curtiss family has any traveling that went to California at some point? And did the Curtiss family ever go to England or Scotland or Nederland, possibly Holland at Amsterdam, since they did go to nearby France.
Well, yet again, I have written a long message, and apologize if I am writing too much.
Peace, 'Roy' Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 19:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
The biographical article in Fly Times, if I am not mistaken, hints that Anthony was close to his mother, and she imparted into him about liking nature.
- Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk · contribs) Augustus John was a Welsh artist, no relation to the Curtiss family. The mother spent a lot of time as a girl in France and Germany and was fluent in both French and German. She traveled to Europe most of her life. Quinn is an Irish name so I guess she had Irish ancestry. At least two of Anthony’s brothers served in the US Military in World War II. I will post the article now. Quetzal1964 (talk) 20:01, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Quetzal1964, Did you want me to make some edits prior to posting the article? Or perhaps after posting the article is okay too. Just checking. Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 20:26, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk · contribs) It's posted now so anyone can edit it. If you have sourced information to add, especially after you have e mailed some of the authorities then you should edit it. The picture would be excellent of the copyright is suitable.Quetzal1964 (talk) 20:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Great news, Quetzal1964. Thanks. I made few minor edits that are more like proofreading. I like the article very much. Well done, with abundent compliments. I will be able make some blue links to this article from other artices as I review further. And similarly, I can blue link this article to other articles. I hope to get permission for that photo of him to be used.
Peace, 'Roy'Robert Jan van de Hoek (talk) 21:43, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Adding Links by a neophyte.
[edit]Hey Quetzal (bird of Guatemala),
I am rather inexperienced with Wikipedia and so I must ask the reason for removing the link to Madagascar in the article Bedotia leucopteron?
Thanks for all you do,
PHIL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil Fish (talk • contribs) 02:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Phil Fish (talk · contribs) Thank you for getting in touch. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking Countries and other large, well known geographic entities, like Oceans or Continents, are usually not linked because the assumption is that the reader knows what these are. Overlinking is not a serious faux pas but new editors, including myself, often do it. I saw my Resplendant Quetzals in Costa Rica.Quetzal1964 (talk) 08:09, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Quetzal,
Thanks for the explanation.
I completely see the point of well known geographic entities. But I am guessing if you asked ten people at random, the minority would know where or what Madagascar is. The majority? Maybe they would know it from the Cartoon movies Madagascar.
I'll try not to over link.
Nice corresponding with you.
PHIL
ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message
[edit]December with Women in Red
[edit]Women in Red | December 2020, Volume 6, Issue 12, Numbers 150, 173, 178, 182, 183
|
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
The Signpost: 29 November 2020
[edit]- News and notes: Jimmy Wales "shouldn't be kicked out before he's ready"
- Op-Ed: Re-righting Wikipedia
- Opinion: How billionaires re-write Wikipedia
- Featured content: Frontonia sp. is thankful for delicious cyanobacteria
- Traffic report: 007 with Borat, the Queen, and an election
- News from Wiki Education: An assignment that changed a life: Kasey Baker
- GLAM plus: West Coast New Zealand's Wikipedian at Large
- Wikicup report: Lee Vilenski wins the 2020 WikiCup
- Recent research: Wikipedia's Shoah coverage succeeds where libraries fail
- Essay: Writing about women
The Signpost: 28 December 2020
[edit]- Arbitration report: 2020 election results
- Featured content: Very nearly ringing in the New Year with "Blank Space" – but we got there in time.
- Traffic report: 2020 wraps up
- Recent research: Predicting the next move in Wikipedia discussions
- Essay: Subjective importance
- Gallery: Angels in the architecture
- Humour: 'Twas the Night Before Wikimas
A New Year With Women in Red!
[edit]Women in Red | January 2021, Volume 7, Issue 1, Numbers 182, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188
|
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging