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Merry Xmas, Jason!

Have a ton of fun! Though you probably don't need any encouragement to have fun, right?

BTW, I've been shamefully avoiding reading that article, afraid that it'll pique my interest in that subject again so much that I'll forget everything else in my life and go do research about it! (I need a shrink...) But I'm inching my way closer to it (you probably noticed me at Canaan, son of Ham lately). Talk to you soon, I hope. SamEV (talk) 02:34, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Terah they deleted of yours

as they also delete me wasting my writing many times. So I post it here for you. But also made further comment about the 205-year Marduk cycle.

That is so bigoted to say. It is like saying that you should not quote black people for opinions of other blacks because its a bias circle. So YOU trust all the white people to say of these blacks (?), white people won't lie of blacks?. I was just writing the other day stating that writers embellish many lies, yet because they get so detailed in their lies they are regarded as being the detailed truth because of truthful writers who will avoid false debatable details, and so you will claim them insufficient in source. In this case I was referring to how Jasher gives us the age of 172 for grandson Nahor's death. The 172 is valid (shifted 20 years by Jasher its source). He dies when Isaac's twins are born at 60 but Jasher puts him at Isaac's marriage of 40. The shift thus is 20 years of the 60 dropped between Haran and Abram so that they can squeeze in a 39-year Marduk of 13-year Mars. 39 32= 71 of 360-day = 70 years. What I have found is the Harran who was 32 when Abram was born is not his brother, but his brother's city Harran Syria. So yes Jasher has truth supplying the 32 but is not using it correctly just as he also supplies the 172 and doesn't use it correctly. YET people then use Jasher because Moses was not detailed enough. And typical here then is the detailed liar is posted as truth if the source of the truth-writer isn't sufficient to please those liars. I have to self-correct myself because others don't have the knowledge to do so. Example, I used to think Nahor was extended from 29 to 79 based on 50-year moon (twice Egypt 25-year moon). Very difficult to work with. Yet now with grandson Nahor born when grandpa Nahor died, it unveils that giving him Terah's 70 places Terah born when Nahor is 79. This can only happen by labeling Nahor as having firstborn rights after Haran died, and Lot did not get these rights because Haran was a suicide. Abram's birth 10 years after Nahor results in proving Abram was firstborn like Joseph of the original legal wife. So the point is that Jasher can be gleaned to understand Moses, but instead people desire to choose the impression that Moses is brief excerpts of the whole Jasher truth. 75.86.172.174 (talk) 18:18, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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Kosher

Tx. I'll be here (more or less) all week.

Try the veal—which is kosher (technically)! SamEV (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. Good to see you! — Jason Sosa 02:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Same to you

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wow, Sam. Thanks, — Jason Sosa 17:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi,

I have a user that I recently topic banned from evolution on behalf of the community. From what I can tell, he probably is an Evangelical Christian (I am guessing Christian Missionaries and Alliance) either from, or recently descended from an East-Asian culture. Someone familiar with the idiom of those churches and willing to serve as an informal mentor would be helpful. Would you be available, or know someone who is?--Tznkai (talk) 14:37, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I might be biting more than I can chew... but I would like to take this opportunity to assist. I understand that Evangelical thought does lean strong on certain POV and may pose a great challenge to keep our editing within the bounds of Wikipedia's site processes and standards. I will avoid confrontation with the user on religious POV, but will attempt to align the user's thinking with Wikipedia:Five pillars. Should I foresee that my efforts are failing, I will report to you immediately for evaluation or intervention. Thank you. — Jason Sosa 16:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Please drop User:Andycjp a note. Any help you are able to give would be good.--Tznkai (talk) 16:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am an Anglican actually-How about you Jason?andycjp (talk) 10:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe in God, the Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit. The thing to keep in mind about Wikipedia is that there are > 35,000,000 registered wikipedians, not to mention the millions of others who are not registered, who contribute to this encyclopedia. That said, there are so many people of different faiths, beliefs, and theories that we need to be considerate of others. The way to be considerate, is to build wp:consensus. Making fast changes/edits without talking and listening to others creates problems. I am very happy with you andycjp (talk · contribs), that so far today, we have had good and nice talking and conversation. — Jason Sosa 11:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The fact you are unable to answer that question openly does not inspire trust...andycjp (talk) 11:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it should help to build trust, I am not Angelican. I am a Christian, but I do not identify with any particular church, because I don't go to church. I believe in God, I read the Bible, I pray... but I do not have a Church. I used to go to a Pentecostal church, but not anymore. :/ — Jason Sosa 11:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Self-Pub

Hi JamesBWatson,

Typically I would have pasted this comment on your talkpage, however I wanted to keep this topic somewhat seperated from the User in question regarding the issue here[1]. Under the guideline for WP:SELFPUB, it states that "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities..." as long as it meets the 5 point criteria. In this particular case, this book [2] by AuthorHouse, a self-pub press, has information about themselves and their activities which could support the article here [3]. Therefore, I don't see a policy violation or spamming if it is used correctly in the article. If you object, and I missed or overlooked something... please let me know.

Thanks, — Jason Sosa 22:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the issue was not whether citing the book as a source for itself was valid, but rather whether mentioning the book at all was valid. There is, so far as I can see, no evidence that the book is notable or significant. The article Gallic Wars contains mention of Julius Caesar's book about the war, and that book is a perfectly good source about itself. However, if I decided to write a book about that war and self-publish it, I would not be free to use Wikipedia's article Gallic Wars to publicise my book. Unlike Julius Caesar's book on the subject, it would not be notable or significant, which is a completely different issue from the matter of using a book as a source about itself. In addition, mention of Caesar's book in the article is there to add information about the war, which is the subject of the article, whereas the information about the book by Adrian Jeens about Libera was, as the editor's himself has acknowledged, put there to tell the world about the book, not to add information about Libera. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks James! Look what I found here: [4], where it says, "About the author: Adrian Jeens has been a passionate LIBERA fan for many years. Based in the UK, he is the webmaster of www. libera-fans-uk.com which caters for thousands of UK fans of the group, as well as a growing number from overseas. He enjoys attending the group's concerts and listening to their music. By writing this book, he hopes to expand the fan base of LIBERA across the world still further from what it already is." This is definitely in violation of WP:PROMO! Thanks, — Jason Sosa 08:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Great adaptation of the handshake. Good luck with your mentoring. You will do great! ```Buster Seven Talk 11:51, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! That handshake is an amazing asset. Thanks for happening that boxstyle on my page. I am really glad I got the chance to meet you. :) — Jason Sosa 12:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

I ended up indeffing Andycjp. Placed my block up for review on WP:ANI#Block_review:_User:Andycjp_blocked_indefinitely_by_User:Tznkai.--Tznkai (talk) 04:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I support the indef block. Thanks, — Jason Sosa 18:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Have you given any thought to becoming an admin?--Tznkai (talk) 17:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that I'm qualified. For the past 3 years my record has been pretty clean, but this past September I had gotten into a dispute with an Admin that got pretty heated. I could have handled the situation better, but I let it get to the point that I was told to back off. I took the opportunity that you gave me to assist you, in effort to redeem myself of that whole situation. I apologized to the Admin that I gave a hard time too... but I know there are still really hard feelings, because I did not accept his apology when he first reached out to me. He might even object to the idea of me being an Admin, which I really don't blame him for. Ultimately, I shall let bygones be bygones. Thanks Tznkai for considering me. — Jason Sosa 20:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh. Handling things in a suboptimal way is a part of life. (To get momentarily religious, its a feature of a fallen world). I was thinking something a little longer term actually. I've been wanting to experiment with pre-admin mentorship, taking person who wants to be an admin in the future guiding them through the mentor admin's thought process in why they do the things they do, and looking at what the mentee would do. So, less of a kind offer and more of a guinea pig hunt.--Tznkai (talk) 22:09, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like that... I'm interested. — Jason Sosa 02:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned you in an ANI thread

Just crossing all the Ts and dotting all the Is, but I filed a report about an SPA dedicated to slandering mainly me (who has also been mentioning you). Ian.thomson (talk) 15:07, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. I missed the whole convo... but I'm glad it got taken cared of quite quickly. I about fell over when I saw you being charged for hypocracy based on Matthew 23 even without a verse. I don't know where these people come up with this stuff. I really believe more work is created for us fending off people who have no clue about encylopedic editing. The list just keeps getting longer. — Jason Sosa 23:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Got some very significant (and good) news recently, so I've been a little busy in meatspace, but I haven't forgotten about our project.--Tznkai (talk) 19:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still down. There is no rush. I have been busy with work, so I'm good. I check in daily, anyway. Thanks, — Jason Sosa 21:27, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Really?[5]. Ignoring his belief in Atlantis, we have some gems: "(h) the famous Phoenician seafarer-prince, Barat [the Irish "Erath"], established a Phoenician colony in Britain, and was its first king; circa 1400BC It is well known from the archaeological record that the Phoenicians established colonies in the British Isles, and there is some support for the theory that Barat is to be identified with Brutfus]" There is of course no archaeological evidence that the Phoenicians visited Britain, let alone established colonies - the tin trade was probably 2nd hand.

"Chapter Three, 'Roman Britain , covers the Roman occupation of the country wnen Britain was a province of the Roman Empire under the overlordship of the Roman Emperors, who were represented locally in Britain by the Roman Governors. The chapter gives a brief history of Britain's "Roman Era", and accounts for the descendants of the Old British Royal House, that is. the heirs of the old pre-Roman British kings who held the title '[glwledic' rprince'] as native rulers of Britain in Roman service during the period of the republic in the second-quarter of the Roman Era. from Casnar "Wledic", the first one (AD 184), to Carawn "Wledic". who restored monarchy in Britain (AD286)." Of course you knew that the British crown was united with the Roman Imperial Crown just after that, and that later King Arthur sponsored expeditions to America. Dougweller (talk) 12:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, somehow I overlooked the validity of this source. — Jason Sosa 06:01, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Heart

Heart in endocrine system category?? why? Doc Elisa ^✉ 13:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elisa, as part of my research, I'm categorizing anatomical parts to their systems (even if their associated to multiple systems). The Heart is listed as a miscellaneous organ of the Endocrine system. If this category is wrong, then the sub article of the Endocrine system is wrong. Any assistance in this area would be appreciated. Thanks for your help. — Jason Sosa 03:30, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again ANP is yet a research subject. 1st.- is not a "powerful vasodilator" as evidence shows: it can't lower a high blood pressure, it can't oppose the angiotensine effects and it can't lower a high peripheral resistance - there is no reliable works which prove otherwise. It is secreted in few quantities. We would be happy if ANP was a powerful vasodilator! It would be wonderful the auto-regulation of high blood pressure! Heart is listed as a miscellaneous organ of the Endocrine system exaggerate in listing heart. It's role as a part of the endocrine system is not relevant. Heart is mainly a target organ for endocrine system. It is my opinion as a cardiologist and not only: if you check the last reference of Atrial natriuretic peptide [6] you can read immediatly the first lines: "The natriuretic peptide (NP) system is a cardioprotective hormonal system that fails to meet its cardioprotective end point during the development of cardiovascular complications such as hypertension and heart failure". I'm not sure if B-NP means "brain". I will check but I found illogic the fact that that heart secrete "Brain-NP". Best regards Doc Elisa ^✉ 07:33, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this valuable information. Is Heart also a target organ for the Lymphatic system, yet not exactly part of it? — Jason Sosa 01:08, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. Sorry for late answer... it was mother's day :). Heart is not directly part of the lymphatic system and not a target. It just receives what it comes from thoracic ducts via jugular veins. Doc Elisa ^✉ 19:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Mothers day to all! Including you, Elisa... even if you are not a biological mother... we all have children of a sorts! Thanks for your awesome feedback about Heart! — Jason Sosa 03:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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In one of your discussions above you say: "The way to be considerate, is to build wp:consensus. Making fast changes/edits without talking and listening to others creates problems." If you believe this you shouldn't do what you're doing with the Maya calendar article. Senor Cuete (talk) 03:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree completely. I really don't understand why you didn't stop after you were reverted the first time and go to the talk page. Dougweller (talk) 06:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I first made a page layout edit. I was reverted. Which is fine. So then I decided to make an update to content with new references... but the reference tags got messed up, it was late, I was tired, so whatever you guys wanted to do with it is fine. I didn't think I was edit warring. Sorry about the confusion. Thanks. — Jason Sosa 11:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it didn't seem typical of you. Dougweller (talk) 16:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This Doug weller is a real jerk. He keeps reverting Sothic cycle to claim that the star does as tradition claims it does. That is to say at 30 degree geographic parallel that every year from 2782-2770bc the star cannot be seen until July 20. Not so. The date back then is July 17 which therefore proves Egyptian schools of 1290bc believed calendar inauguration was July 17 of 2770bc, not the 2782bc that was thrown out of colleges 70 years ago. I don't worry about my IP and so I have found that Doug weller hunts me down, meaning I have several IPs he has left alone, they even clarify the article quite good, yet one particular IP he reverts and deletes every time. I no longer use Wikipedia as first source basically because of this evil conduct of hunting people. As for Maya calendar, there are stupid Mexican scholars who will dare to claim it had a leap day every 4 years. No such thing in the masses of books on it. So then why shouldn't these idiots be corrected. BUT nope they have to revert your truth. Maya match Bible Genesis at 1314bc which proves its not Catholic source. They use a 2088bc Haran born to Terah's 39 like Jasher, they cycle a 205-year Marduk of Mars from Arpaxad 3113bc to this 2088bc, and they use a 179 year Nahor for Terah's 2127bc birth (Jasher & Ussher's Nahor of 29 years uses 2127bc). Maya count these in TUN (360-day). That means 135 of Arpaxad spans only 133 years, 130 of Peleg spans only 128 years. Thus 1040 years span 1025 Julian. They also label their Christ-king Ahau Pacal Votan as 3744 tun and 3744 haab which means it matches Egyptian Genesis 2256am to year 6000 as if Flood 3114bc to 630AD. BUT in Hebrew Peleg died in year 1996am or 260 before that, so we find published professor Spinden also places a wave of disaster 260 years earlier in 3374bc before 3114bc. That wave of death was post-Flood, cutting longevity 700 years. Genesis is all there in 1314bc Mexico. So forget genetics, not needed, unless you wish to prove they were not Mormon Jews. 75.86.172.174 (talk) 18:50, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Editor2020 (talk · contribs), in the history of the development how Christians interpreted the teaching of resurrection, there were constant struggles with keeping the earliest known teaching of resurrection free from Roman, Greek, Babylonian, and Egyptian beliefs. It caused divisions in the teaching of resurrection, some of which can be witnessed in Tertullian 's Polemic writings on Christian resurrection and its early developments. The current sub-article touches on this struggle and gives the example of the influence of Desim: "This shift was supported not by any scripture, but largely by the popular religion of the Enlightenment, Deism." (last par.) What it paramounts to, is the influence that worldly teachings outside of Christianity, have played in the earliest developments of the Christian view of resurrection. — Jason Sosa 17:16, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fall of Babylon

Hello Jasonasosa: In your article « the Fall of Babylon » that I have translated into French – there are 3 points that lacked references. In the Chapter on “Invasion” – you wrote “in one reconstructed account (citation needed) a battle was fought at Opis” and a little later “In another reconstructed account (citation needed) Nabonidus sent his son Belshazzar”. Finally, a 3rd point in your Chapter on “Historiography” you wrote “was found corroborating the existence of Belshahazzar as the ruler in Babylon. (citation needed)”. Would you kindly tell me where you found this information ? Thank you in advance for your reply, Best regards, Eka1 (talk) 18:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC) Eka1 (talk) 18:08, 19 September 2020 (UTC)Eka1 ([[Discussion utilisateur:Eka1|discuter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eka1 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Last Plagues

In your article "7 Trumpets of Revelation", I wanted to bring up that there seems to be a connection between the seven trumpets and the seven last plagues. The two themes seem to compliment each other. Does anyone else think so? Cwhit567 (talk) 11:06, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The seven last plagues can be found in Revelation 16. Cwhit567 (talk) 11:07, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]